Black Magic Pocket Cinema Camera 4k vs. GH5

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The Slanted Lens

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5 жыл бұрын

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To compare the BMPCC4K with the GH5, we tested the dynamic range, stabilization, color science, ease of use, and ergonomics of both!
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@TheSlantedLens
@TheSlantedLens 5 жыл бұрын
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@JoshuaBardwell
@JoshuaBardwell 4 жыл бұрын
Rachel doesn't get an introduction. She just gets to stand there looking awkward and not talking. RACHEL. I SEE YOU RACHEL.
@TheSlantedLens
@TheSlantedLens 4 жыл бұрын
That's funny. Good point. At least her instagram handle was shown.
@hansfeiertag6534
@hansfeiertag6534 2 жыл бұрын
And she is a stunning beauty...
@DaCarlaKilpatrick
@DaCarlaKilpatrick Жыл бұрын
Wheel of Fortune
@isaacislaughter
@isaacislaughter Жыл бұрын
You noticed the beautiful woman standing in the middle of the shot? Well spotted sir. 😂
@TheSlantedLens
@TheSlantedLens 5 жыл бұрын
Stay tuned for our LIVE Q&A at 3PM PST where Jay P answers all your questions about the Black Magic Pocket Cinema Camera 4k and the GH5! If you can't make it, please post the questions in the comments and we will get to all of them :)
@Mozingotube
@Mozingotube 5 жыл бұрын
The Slanted Lens if I had to choose I’d go with the GH5 simply because I can go from stills to video and have stabilization
@TheSlantedLens
@TheSlantedLens 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's a huge bonus for the GH5.
@kamenwaticlients
@kamenwaticlients 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder how it would compare to the GH5S.
@Darksideneo
@Darksideneo 5 жыл бұрын
Upscale such videos to UHD, because its hard to compare in a such quality on KZbin.
@TheSlantedLens
@TheSlantedLens 5 жыл бұрын
You asked and we delivered, download the raw footage for the BMPCC4K and GH5 for you to color grade yourself! Go to this link to get your download: theslantedlens.com/bmpcc4k-gh5-signup/ Happy color grading!
@henriquemontalvao6809
@henriquemontalvao6809 5 жыл бұрын
You flared the gh5 and it looks all washed out while testing the pocket in the shadow, all this against a window lol. Clearly you are not capable of reliable camera tests. More youtube disinformation right here.
@TheSlantedLens
@TheSlantedLens 5 жыл бұрын
sorry that you didn't find this video helpful. thanks for sharing with us!
@user-dn4hw4pl8x
@user-dn4hw4pl8x 5 жыл бұрын
It would be better compared gh5s. It is more suitable for video.
@noenken
@noenken 5 жыл бұрын
@@user-dn4hw4pl8x Let's say more suitable as a cinema camera and therefor a better fit for a comparison. Yes, I agree with that in general. :) Mainly I'm just stunned that this is a 4K camera shootout and the presented video is middle of the road 1080, if that... Kinda pointless really.
@Kgenlloud
@Kgenlloud 5 жыл бұрын
Feels like you exposed for what looked good on the BMPCC and then matched those settings with the GH5. I have so many issues with your tests. 1. Skin tones. You Shot two different angles. Why? This would skew your results. You got more shadow on the side angle which created depth where your head on shot is pretty flat. Also you used 2 different lenses on each camera. Different glass will have different colour shifts. Ever hear about Chromatic aberration? Not to mention all the other things that are affected by the glass you use. For instance F-stop is front element size / aperture size and then rounded off so its common for lenses with different fStops to have different tStops. So in the future use the same lens on each camera. Next you grade something and say it has to much magenta in it. That's just retarded. On your dynamic range test the exposure is not the same. And I agree the BMPCC has better Dynamic range. I just cant tell you how much through your tests because the GH5 image was exposed hotter then the BMCC
@henriquemontalvao6809
@henriquemontalvao6809 5 жыл бұрын
They are flaring the Gh5 in the sun, while the pocket is in the shadow. enough said
@Kgenlloud
@Kgenlloud 5 жыл бұрын
Not Bias. I'm not saying the BMPCC 4K is not the better camera. But I want a fair comparison so that I know by how large a margin the BMPCC 4K beats the GH5.
@Kgenlloud
@Kgenlloud 5 жыл бұрын
Side note. If the GH5 image is close its still the better camera. I have a BMCC4K and the 4K is possibly better then that of the GH5 but the hdd space and post (trans-coding) required to use the DNG sequences which is the only option to film in when shooting 4K makes the BMCC's 4K pretty unusable for the projects I do. Unless you filming a feature the DNG sequences are a shit way to work. Even my red R3D files are more user friendly. They are read by premier and davinci natively. Bonzology what experience do you have with cameras? I want an unbiased test so that I can see it the extra work required by the BMPCC4K is worth the effort for the bump in image quality. Also the work flow had no mention in the video. The only bias here is "the slanted lens's" bias to the BMPCC4K. I'm pissed that they wasted 24minutes of my life making this bullshit review when I'm trying to make a decision on upgrading (if you can call it an upgrade) my GH5 and GH5s for BMPCC's. Bonzology look at CRFTSHO GH5 vs Red. Please tell me they got the best results they could from the GH5. My footage looks better then theirs. Here is a link kzbin.info/www/bejne/bpO0k55vr816h8U
@dallasbagley
@dallasbagley 5 жыл бұрын
@@Kgenlloud I currently have a 12 core CPU, 32 gigs of ram, and a 1070 GPU. Is there any codecs that these specs would have a hard time handling on the BMPCC4k?
@Kgenlloud
@Kgenlloud 5 жыл бұрын
Should be fine. Your specs will handle 4K DNG's no problem. SSD's or a raid will also improve 4K performance. I used to use a Laptop with good specs but a mechanical HDD and that wouldn't handle. If I opened task manager the HDD would be 100% usage. I use a desktop now with 3x 2TB SSD Hybrid drives in Raid 980TI 32GB Ram and an I7 7th gen and that handles everything fairly well. Nuke compositing at 4K doesn't play back but editing and AE, No problems.
@JaspasOnline
@JaspasOnline 5 жыл бұрын
The moment when you're talking about on-board audio... and your lavalieres begin to fail. #thestruggles
@TheSlantedLens
@TheSlantedLens 5 жыл бұрын
the irony, we know. #thestruggleisreal
@SoundSpeeding
@SoundSpeeding 5 жыл бұрын
They would not have been that far away either! Could have been hardwired. And outdoors.... oh god, gee! Why even bother using COS11 lavs if you're going to expose it to wind like that? I'd rather have it hidden, have a little bit of scratching, rather all that wind noise.
@srroberts07
@srroberts07 5 жыл бұрын
I thought they were about to say they were recording the sound with the on-board mics.
@TheSlantedLens
@TheSlantedLens 5 жыл бұрын
yikes. no we didn't test those haha.
@2dimples_dad255
@2dimples_dad255 5 жыл бұрын
Haha
@NikolajHoelgaard
@NikolajHoelgaard 5 жыл бұрын
Now this is what happens when professionals compare equipment. Seen so many tests of people who have only worked with DSLR cameras, trying to compare the BMPCC4k with sony and panasonic. Problem is that they lack the grading experience and understanding of the codecs, to get the most out of BM. Sure it doesn't meet the vlogging criteria, but it was never mean't to please those kinds of people anyways. Great video, always happy to see content from you guys!
@TheSlantedLens
@TheSlantedLens 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing with us!
@doppetrspetla
@doppetrspetla 5 жыл бұрын
It´s not bad to compare Blackmagic Pocket 4K to mirrorless, because its in same price point. And its also ok to compare them in videography, not just cinematography. Every good cinematographer can pull great image even from Canon 550D.
@AmritVatsa
@AmritVatsa 5 жыл бұрын
"Sure it doesn't meet the vlogging criteria, but it was never mean't to please those kinds of people anyways." - disagree with your statement; I clearly saw many Blackmagic sales representatives pitch it as a vlogging camera very recently in many events... though nobody bought the pitch then.. :)
@doppetrspetla
@doppetrspetla 5 жыл бұрын
@@JJDelMar GH5 is not meant for vloggers. It doesnt have AF that works. Its great cam for docs.
@NikolajHoelgaard
@NikolajHoelgaard 5 жыл бұрын
They might have indicated that it was possible to use for vlogs. But it is not branded as a vlog camera. Many rumors started because of the record button at the front, but In non of the material i've seen have they directly indicated it to be a vlogging camera. You could sure use it for that if you wanted, but without AF and flipscreen it should have been clear that it was not designed for that purpose.
@matteobertoli
@matteobertoli 5 жыл бұрын
You should compare a GH5S since it shares the same Pocket 4K sensor, not a two year old camera. Even if people think GH5 and GH5S are exactly the same, they are wrong. They are two different cameras with two different sensors, field of view, native iso and color science.
@sangramirez3099
@sangramirez3099 5 жыл бұрын
I think exactly the same, and is suspicious, a lot BMP4k Vs GH5 but not Vs Gh5S
@nicholasboule5134
@nicholasboule5134 5 жыл бұрын
I dont know why ppl wont review the gh5s vs BMPCC4k. If they were the same BMPCC4k would still sell more at $1300 rather than over $2k of the gh5s
@jdubsky
@jdubsky 5 жыл бұрын
^^ What he said.
@raredreamfootage
@raredreamfootage 5 жыл бұрын
I think they are thinking more in terms of price point.
@jdubsky
@jdubsky 5 жыл бұрын
@@raredreamfootage that's one way of looking at it. They aren't really close in price though. And the alternative would provide more useful, for me.
@chrisnedbalek2866
@chrisnedbalek2866 11 ай бұрын
Guys, you did a great job! The test that you set up were very good very revealing, and it was all really enjoyable to watch. I have a gh5, and I learned a lot watching this. Good job!
@FrankValchiria
@FrankValchiria 5 жыл бұрын
do you have also a 4k version of this video? because it's harder to tell in hd
@scottgmaclean
@scottgmaclean 5 жыл бұрын
As a GH5 user (and aficionado!) I have to say the look out of the BMPCC4K looks significantly better.
@grantdeizel4844
@grantdeizel4844 5 жыл бұрын
Looks like you guys are having fun out there. It always good to see stuff like that. Keep up the good work folks
@TheSlantedLens
@TheSlantedLens 5 жыл бұрын
We definitely had a blast! It's a great lightweight camera to go out and shoot with. It's even better when you throw it on a gimbal
@ChristopherIan
@ChristopherIan 5 жыл бұрын
What was the LUT or grading done on the BM footage? would love to know, it looks STUNNING
@outbackatl
@outbackatl 5 жыл бұрын
Curious to know what profiles and where used and was the GH5 shooting at it's 400MB or the 100? All-I or Long GOP
@DutchAussieProductions
@DutchAussieProductions 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys. Another of your very interesting videos. I am still waiting for my BMPCC 4K to become available.
@AdamMurtland
@AdamMurtland 5 жыл бұрын
This is best side by side I've seen so far! Thanks for putting in the work :)
@TheSlantedLens
@TheSlantedLens 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Adam! We appreciate the enthusiasm!
@geraldundone
@geraldundone 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting video. One of the possible causes of the colour shift and disparity between the two models at 120p is probably the bit-depth. Variable frame rate modes on the GH5 are only available for 8-bit, which is a considerable step down from 10-bit and even more from Raw. And 8-bit just isn't that great for V-Log in my opinion.
@TheSlantedLens
@TheSlantedLens 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing that. We are in the process of uploading the raw footage right now for people to check out how it looks in raw.
@MatthewHyatt
@MatthewHyatt 5 жыл бұрын
Thoroughly enjoyed this review! Thanks! I've been using the BMPCC for a few years and cannot wait for the 4k to arrive.
@TheSlantedLens
@TheSlantedLens 5 жыл бұрын
Nice! We are excited for everyone to start doing their own tests on the BMPCC4K when it comes out!
@GaryStockton
@GaryStockton 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, both are very nice cameras, but you can clearly see a difference with the BMPCC. Can't wait till mine arrives.
@moathahmed322
@moathahmed322 5 жыл бұрын
As usual a perfect review i would love to see more cameras like sony a7iii and canon if possible against BM 4k
@TheSlantedLens
@TheSlantedLens 5 жыл бұрын
we are planning on doing another one when the BMPCC4K comes out, so stay tuned :)
@tjpenton
@tjpenton 5 жыл бұрын
If possible, please compare a Sony a7iii for color science, d.r. & sharpness to the BM4k. Would love to see some FF glass & a speedbooster on the BM4k. (Yes, we know the sensors are totally different)
@TheSlantedLens
@TheSlantedLens 5 жыл бұрын
We will definitely try to do another comparison based upon all the numerous comments! Thanks for sharing with us
@CineMobilePodcast
@CineMobilePodcast 5 жыл бұрын
Black Magic Pocket Cinema Camera 4k Vs Sony A7III Please!!!
@CryWolfFilms
@CryWolfFilms 4 жыл бұрын
as a sony user, i can tell you the color science is by far the worst i've ever used in terms of newer 4k cameras.
@thequantaleaper
@thequantaleaper 5 жыл бұрын
Once again, what you are seeing is improperly graded V-LogL being compared to a stylistic (aka color science) pre-computed interpretation of the raw footage. With a few minutes in a simple rudimentary tool like Lumetri I could get the GH5 footage here to match that BMPCC4K footage fairly closely.
@Bobbylopezcreative
@Bobbylopezcreative 5 жыл бұрын
Want a cookie?
@guillaumecottin7251
@guillaumecottin7251 5 жыл бұрын
I like that contrary to many KZbin channels, you do actual camera tests from which one can actually draw conclusions!
@TheSlantedLens
@TheSlantedLens 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! We definitely try not to be biased, but we can't help it sometimes
@vpr5562
@vpr5562 5 жыл бұрын
Guys :))) why you upload @ 1080p, showing 4k footage? :( i am on 27inch monitor. Also on the Blackmagic site it says that it comes with 30W power supply?
@diegolumbao6635
@diegolumbao6635 5 жыл бұрын
Hi! I'm planning to buy this camera for several purposes. One of the things it will be used is for streaming in youtube/facebook, is it possible? the streaming will last like 2-3 hours, im concerned if it will overheat, or sleep suddenly. does it have a clean hdmi output where there are no overlays when connected to a computer? Please help thanks!!!!
@Humcrush
@Humcrush 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another well done review. I really appreciate that you take the time to do more than just point the camera at trees and the sky and claim to have tested dynamic range. ;-)
@TheSlantedLens
@TheSlantedLens 5 жыл бұрын
Haha, that's why we bring in our models to help us make the footage look even better!
@MONEYVAL9
@MONEYVAL9 4 жыл бұрын
One of the most usefull insight comparisons i've seen in a while.
@TheSlantedLens
@TheSlantedLens 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! And thanks for your support!
@pete49327
@pete49327 5 жыл бұрын
Well done practical tests, thank you. BTW, how did you guys get proper exposure with the bmpcc4k? TIA.
@LuckyDogProductions
@LuckyDogProductions 5 жыл бұрын
This was great thanks. Trying to upgrade to 4k and have internal AUDIO recording. I ordered BM4k in July, got it in December - Have to get metabones $500 to get IRIS control to work with my Nikon lenses - Is this a thing or is my camera messed up? I have not had a chance to go to Adarama in NYC to have it looked at or make sure I am buying the right adapter. I have been shooting on a Nikon 7100 for years, but I am tired of recording audio on another device. I have a lot of learning new gear and software to do, this seemed like a good start.
@DaveParsonsVideos
@DaveParsonsVideos 5 жыл бұрын
4.39 in the BMPC footage has flicker. Also, as a number of people have said, why not compare with the GH5S, which, unlike the GH5, does have the anti-aliasing filter?
@ocubex
@ocubex 5 жыл бұрын
Love the comparison, great review. Wish it was released in 4K though. Keep them coming guys, great job.
@TheSlantedLens
@TheSlantedLens 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! We didn't take that into consideration upon exporting, but definitely will next time. Thanks so much for the suggestion!
@peterallely5417
@peterallely5417 5 жыл бұрын
Also native iso has a lot of misconceptions generally. It’s not primarily about noise levels, it’s the dynamic range. 400 and 3200 have the same dynamic range, but not same noise levels. The second 3200 gain circuit kicks in at 1200+ iso.
@ryanh6650
@ryanh6650 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like the fact that BRAW was not even covered is too bad. Pockets raw format is amazing. Retaining the full scope of each BM circuit so that you can... after the fact... Like a red camera.. change the iso and exposure losslessly. Bought this and Sony a7iii and returned the Sony. The footage from the Sony was plagued with garbage compression and 8 bit banding. I imagine the same compression issues exists in some heavily graded gh5 footage. 12bit BRAW is amazing. BM Also comes with full version of resolve.
@whaletune
@whaletune 5 жыл бұрын
What handles are those for the Tilta Gravity G2 you used with the BMPC 4K?
@soamjena
@soamjena 4 жыл бұрын
Can you compare GH5 with BMPCC 6k?
@ThorTVtube
@ThorTVtube 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. I’d love to see a comparison between the Blackmagic and the Sony A7 III. Those are the 2 I’m really stuck between. I’ve played with the GH5 and GH5s before and I wasn’t impressed. I don’t like that flat skin tone look.
@ilgnir
@ilgnir 5 жыл бұрын
Would the comparison be fairer if you‘d used an external raw recorder for the gh5? You are compairing codec vs raw footage.
@tythebelieveguy4228
@tythebelieveguy4228 5 жыл бұрын
@theslantedlens Thank you for the review... I'm considering getting a C-200, but wanted to see how close the BMPCC 4k would be in quality over price... Since you've worked with both, what are your thoughts? Thanks in advance
@TheSlantedLens
@TheSlantedLens 5 жыл бұрын
Great question. I use my C200 really often. The C200 has easy sound solutions, it has built in ND filters. If you are going to get the BMPCC4K set-up, you have to spend easily another $1000. The batteries for the BMPCC4K don't last very long. Better off to step up to the Ursa MiniPro which is more competitive with the cinematic C200.
@funkysugar9505
@funkysugar9505 5 жыл бұрын
look forward to a test for GH5s VS BMPCC4K
@user-jn6ut4ep2v
@user-jn6ut4ep2v 5 жыл бұрын
Gh5S is winner always! Gh5S video = RED 8K video
@Vrzalik81
@Vrzalik81 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Everybody, I would like to know if BMPCC 4K + DJI Ronin S + 25mm 0.95T SLR Magic ( manual focus) lens are going to work together or not. Can I use manual focus on DJI Ronin S if I am going to have manual focus lens only? Or I must use lens with AF. Thanks!
@gameoverwehaveeverypixelco1258
@gameoverwehaveeverypixelco1258 5 жыл бұрын
Should you shoot in native iso, is it less noisy, will a lower iso than native not be a good.
@colourberry
@colourberry 5 жыл бұрын
In the stabilization test I'm surprised you didnt use a stabilized lens on the BM???
@CineMobilePodcast
@CineMobilePodcast 5 жыл бұрын
Black Magic Pocket Cinema Camera Vs Sony A7III Please!!!
@PaweGoab
@PaweGoab 5 жыл бұрын
what lens were you using on BMPCC? Especially on the gimbal shots? Would love to see comparison on auto focus between these two. AF is what holds me back the most from BMPCC
@zapx007
@zapx007 5 жыл бұрын
Is there any camera with image quality of BMPCC 4K and features of GH5 ? AND of course in a price range of both ☺ Please be kind help..... 🙏
@Slesaint17
@Slesaint17 4 жыл бұрын
Jaid Pathan ahahahahaha in the same price range?! Of course not...if not no one would be buying the GH5 or BMPCC4K 😂
@DescubriendoCanada
@DescubriendoCanada 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video... you convinced me to buy bmpcc
@jorgevillalba2236
@jorgevillalba2236 2 жыл бұрын
Si usted lo dice, no hay nada mas que pensar. Es una excelente camara
@colourberry
@colourberry 5 жыл бұрын
Also why did you not upload 4K and your 1080p upload looks like a very low bitrate.
@TheSlantedLens
@TheSlantedLens 5 жыл бұрын
That's a really good suggestion, it completely slipped our minds to upload in 4K!
@ronyximenez
@ronyximenez 5 жыл бұрын
Hahahahha!!!! I loved your show!!! very ilustrative and great humor on you 2!! I enjoyed it!! Thanks for all!! :)
@Videia
@Videia 5 жыл бұрын
Has somebody tried the Pocket 4k with a stabilised lens like 12-35 or 12-60 Leica ? because these lenses are meant to work better with Panasonic cameras... but should still work with Blackmagic. A comparison on how stabilisation works on different cameras should be done
@NikolajHoelgaard
@NikolajHoelgaard 5 жыл бұрын
Would you consider maybe making a video about power options, testing the BMPCC4k with external batteries, to get the best battery life on a reasonable budget.
@TheSlantedLens
@TheSlantedLens 5 жыл бұрын
Possibly in the future, when we have the opportunity to play with the BMPCC4k again!
@zenworldo
@zenworldo 5 жыл бұрын
you didnt talk about audio options (how the pocket camera has an XLR port) or battery life
@TheJohnJohnGr
@TheJohnJohnGr 5 жыл бұрын
What do you think about bmpcc4k and andycine a6 monitor combo? Without spending much money, you solve the battery and the articulating screen problem. Great video btw! C200 vs Bmpcc4k would be nice.
@gabrielspalletta
@gabrielspalletta 5 жыл бұрын
with native lens on blackmagic crop the image too?
@irongrip
@irongrip 4 жыл бұрын
The lantern scene, I love it!
@alexpotap3985
@alexpotap3985 5 жыл бұрын
lol, that "sexy" moan in the background when you switch to blackmagic
@mskonicki2001
@mskonicki2001 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent work gentlemen. 🏋🏻
@polariseefilmsPujola
@polariseefilmsPujola 5 жыл бұрын
Gracias Amigos, muy buena review.
@TheSlantedLens
@TheSlantedLens 5 жыл бұрын
thank you!
@omaranasr2659
@omaranasr2659 5 жыл бұрын
One of the greatest videos ever.. Thank you
@TheSlantedLens
@TheSlantedLens 5 жыл бұрын
Dang Omar. You flatter us. Join us for our live show right now!
@AfoteyAnnum
@AfoteyAnnum 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome comparison! I'm a huge fan of the GH series (I own a GH4), and recently fell in love with the BMPCC4K... Great to see a near 1:1 comparison here... #Subscribed
@MrGuilhermeFernandes
@MrGuilhermeFernandes 5 жыл бұрын
Just for the record: Native ISO means the ISO at best Dynamic Range performance, not Noise Sensitivity.
@MrEditorsMusic
@MrEditorsMusic 5 жыл бұрын
Could you share some footage so we can grade and compare it for ourselves?
@TheSlantedLens
@TheSlantedLens 5 жыл бұрын
Yes! We'd love to see what you can do with the footage we shot! We will put it up online for you to download and let you know when it's ready.
@MrEditorsMusic
@MrEditorsMusic 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@MrEditorsMusic
@MrEditorsMusic 5 жыл бұрын
Do you have files uploaded yet?
@TheSlantedLens
@TheSlantedLens 5 жыл бұрын
You can download the footage here: theslantedlens.com/bmpcc4k-gh5-signup/ Happy color grading!
@aaronharper444
@aaronharper444 5 жыл бұрын
Very impressive dynamic range. I think a fair comparison would be the GH 5S /BMPCC 4K The S handles highlights much better.
@JaspreetSinghArtist
@JaspreetSinghArtist 5 жыл бұрын
which one can be used for Netflix series ?
@ainolinternational
@ainolinternational 5 жыл бұрын
oh yes, i am here to watch the beautiful model :)
@heylou
@heylou 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome comparison!
@RumbaniNdhlovu
@RumbaniNdhlovu 5 жыл бұрын
Slanted Lens... great video test. I want a dedicated camera for vlogging, interviews and explainer videos for youtube especially but hopefully move to bigger screens later. I was tod about both cameras and people recommended the GH5 but what would you pick if you could only have one of these?
@TheSlantedLens
@TheSlantedLens 5 жыл бұрын
The GH5 is a better system for audio and vlogging. I think that is a better choice for what you want to do.
@Bare_Essence
@Bare_Essence 5 жыл бұрын
The indoor shots with sun in background, though taken at the same time, the bloom in the window is due to placement of the camera. It can't be in the same position. You can see the movement based on the rightmost rose (tulip?) and its position to the window pane inlay. The camera is more to the left for the GH5 and is seeing the sun. The BlackMagic has the sun perfectly blocked by the main window separator. Odd that you didn't mark the location for both :)
@TheSlantedLens
@TheSlantedLens 5 жыл бұрын
Good eye. We just needed a tripod that holds two cameras at the same time! but even then it would be hard to place the two cameras in the exact same position at the exact same time.
@danielgebert4556
@danielgebert4556 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this. Yes
@TheSlantedLens
@TheSlantedLens 5 жыл бұрын
We have too! It was so much fun to play with the BMPCC4K
@occoutino
@occoutino 4 жыл бұрын
Im trying to get a video camera primary for sport videos (Surf) Which one would you recomend me ? and why. thanks
@TheSlantedLens
@TheSlantedLens 4 жыл бұрын
If you are in the water use a GoPro. If not check out the Sony A9.
@leebrandt33
@leebrandt33 5 жыл бұрын
You guys did a fabulous comparison. Well done. Lossless raw on the pocket 4k gives you a fraction more on dynamic range, but probably not worth the trouble. I'd say gh5 is better for run and gun, pocket 4k behaves more like a true cinema camera. Would love to see pocket 4k vs arri or red cameras
@TheSlantedLens
@TheSlantedLens 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Lee! yeah, it's a very different feeling when shooting with the two of them
@RusstafaB
@RusstafaB 5 жыл бұрын
For the IBIS the GH5 is a real winner. If you want to shoot lovely rich looking imagery then the Pocket Cinema Camera is the one, and if they update it to Blackmagic RAW the undisputed champion, there will be no doubt about that.
@taunado
@taunado 3 жыл бұрын
Great test. It'll be interesting to see the BMP and GH5 compared on a full cage setup, including a v-mount battery such as FXlion in terms of stabilization. I assume the weight of the setup will improve the BMP. I have a GH5 at the moment paired with the Ninja V, it's unfortunate there's no IBIS in the BMP or I'd make the switch.
@TheSlantedLens
@TheSlantedLens 3 жыл бұрын
Great point! Appreciate your comment!
@MichaelRichards983
@MichaelRichards983 5 жыл бұрын
This video does an awesome job of showing just how ahead of its time that the GH5 is; the Blackmagic is obviously SLIGHTLY better in some area but it should be as it is a new camera. When comparing these cameras when operating with good light, you can't really tell them apart. In the dark, obviously the Gh5 is going to suffer and that is why we have the GH5s. Should you drop the GH5 for the Blackmagic; it depends. If you don't have a camera it's an opinion but the Blackmagic has some major issues to consider. If you have the GH5 or GH5s, most professionals would tell you no as the difference isn't that dramatic.
@CrisBaggins
@CrisBaggins 5 жыл бұрын
Skintones, reds and oranges just look wrong on the gh5...
@MichaelRichards983
@MichaelRichards983 5 жыл бұрын
It sounds like you are trying to justify your purchase....nothing wrong with that but you've got to be fair to both cameras. If you can't do that, it shows just how amateur that you are.
@JohnnyYork
@JohnnyYork 5 жыл бұрын
The whole GH line has been ahead of it’s time. I still have footage from a music video I shot with the GH2 with the driftwood hack and people thinks it’s arri / RED footage (totally subjective comparisons but point is , it’s a beast line).
@CrisBaggins
@CrisBaggins 5 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelRichards983 to be fair, tge pocket 4k should have been compared to gh5s. Wich is the first in GHx series to have decent colours. Also, same sensor as the bmpcc4k. If you don't see that tge 4k is butchering the gh5, you maybe have ham on your eyes.
@MichaelRichards983
@MichaelRichards983 5 жыл бұрын
Cristiano Bacci Maybe to the untrained eye there is a difference but real world speaking, it’s not that dramatic from a creative standpoint. With that being said, I agree with the other reviews on this camera.
@ronroyce6
@ronroyce6 5 жыл бұрын
Great comparison. If only the BMPCC had AF-C or at least IBIS. I shoot with an A6300 but would love to rent out the BMPCC for projects where I have a controlled environment. I'm in love with its colours. Did you shoot all the BMPCC clips in Cinema DNG though?
@TheSlantedLens
@TheSlantedLens 5 жыл бұрын
Yes we shot all the BMPCC4K in Raw and edited the color back in!
@catman6089
@catman6089 5 жыл бұрын
During the slwo-mo for the GH5, the highlights at the end of her hair almost turned bright yellow, and her skin looked magenta... not a fan of that lol
@TheJ_G
@TheJ_G 5 жыл бұрын
Great comparison video - maybe even the best one currently online! Whoever did the audio dropped the ball though...
@TheSlantedLens
@TheSlantedLens 5 жыл бұрын
yeah we definitely had issues with the wind and scratching in the studio. thanks for supporting us! stay subscribed for our next video :)
@colinire15
@colinire15 5 жыл бұрын
Very good review. Maybe a fairer review would have compared the BMPCC 4K to the GH5s?
@kinoheart3737
@kinoheart3737 5 жыл бұрын
Blackmagic is the winner, no doubt
@TheSlantedLens
@TheSlantedLens 5 жыл бұрын
Haha, we didn't say a clear winner, but the camera speaks for itself!
@w.w.7148
@w.w.7148 5 жыл бұрын
Sure, they had to put the GH5s into the ring. It was clear that the GH5 don't have any chance.
@MichaelRichards983
@MichaelRichards983 5 жыл бұрын
Speaking professionally, this video does an awesome job of showing just how ahead of its time that the GH5 is; the Blackmagic is obviously SLIGHTLY better in some area but it should be as it is a new camera. When comparing these cameras when operating with good light, you can't really tell them apart. In the dark, obviously the Gh5 is going to suffer and that is why we have the GH5s. Should you drop the GH5 for the Blackmagic; it depends. If you don't have a camera it's an opinion but the Blackmagic has some major issues to consider. If you have the GH5 or GH5s, most professionals would tell you no as the difference isn't that dramatic.
@motionplacescamera2595
@motionplacescamera2595 5 жыл бұрын
This is a great point. The GH5 has been out for quite some time now and in many ways it holds up to the Pocket 4K or even surpasses it. Ultimate image quality does go to the Pocket 4K, but there are many factors to consider when choosing a camera for a project.
@vladimirtomin8223
@vladimirtomin8223 5 жыл бұрын
Andrew Ryan GH5 ans GH5s will always have this cellphone-ish quality to the picture, feels kind of shooting on very good phone with optics. BMPC gives you something else, the picture is just deeper, you just want to look at it more, it’s... idk, more cinematic? One looks like filmed theater performance, other one looks like movie. And yes, even iphone shot can be colored in DaVinci without much of an effort to look kind of like movie, but you have to go extreme with it. Bmpc on the other hand can give you “movie” in more subtle way. Just my 2 eyes opinion, not to sound absolute or anything. Just something I’ve noticed
@NikolajHoelgaard
@NikolajHoelgaard 5 жыл бұрын
Misconception about the dual iso. It does make for better low light performance, but it improves much more on dynamic range and colors at high ISO's, than it prevents noise. That is why there is more noise in 3200 than 1600, however you preserve dynamic range and color, compared to a normal sensor type.
@TheSlantedLens
@TheSlantedLens 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that perspective. That makes sense when you look at the footage.
@davidmultimedia2024
@davidmultimedia2024 5 жыл бұрын
The Slanted Lens The natives ISO are 400 and 1250 on this camera, not 1600 or 3200.
@RodieOsc
@RodieOsc 5 жыл бұрын
That tripod is like one of the best ive ever used
@miriammoriarty8588
@miriammoriarty8588 3 жыл бұрын
This is so helpful thanks. I'm about to buy the gh5 becaiuse it suits my purpose as a hybrid run and gun. Would love to get a BMPC down the track for more cinematic effect.
@TheSlantedLens
@TheSlantedLens 3 жыл бұрын
Enjoy your new purchase! Thanks for watching!
@tabaresweddingfilms
@tabaresweddingfilms 5 жыл бұрын
could you guys make a comparison between the Ursa mini 4k and the BMPCC 4K,
@TheSlantedLens
@TheSlantedLens 5 жыл бұрын
That's a great idea for a future video!
@REDELLF
@REDELLF 5 жыл бұрын
What camera was this video shot with ????????the first part of this video when you first start out
@TheSlantedLens
@TheSlantedLens 5 жыл бұрын
The Canon C200
@timelschner8451
@timelschner8451 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder how the BMPCC would compare to the GH5S...
@user-jn6ut4ep2v
@user-jn6ut4ep2v 5 жыл бұрын
Gh5S is winner always! Gh5S video = RED 8K video
@kamenwaticlients
@kamenwaticlients 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder how it would compare to the GH5s with similar test
@michaelambrose1958
@michaelambrose1958 5 жыл бұрын
For five minutes I was checking cable connection with my audio system and after plug out from TV, realize that those audio craps came from your video. Ech...
@Wolf_Wingert
@Wolf_Wingert 5 жыл бұрын
Can you guys make similiar test, but with sony a7III instead of gh5? I think it could be an intersting battle
@TheSlantedLens
@TheSlantedLens 5 жыл бұрын
yeah we definitely can! thanks for giving us your sugggestion.
@raredreamfootage
@raredreamfootage 5 жыл бұрын
11:38 - I would reshoot the GH5 shot again because in the GH5 framing the outside light was directly shining into the GH5 whereas the light was hidden behind the window panel for the BMPCC4K.
@TheSlantedLens
@TheSlantedLens 5 жыл бұрын
yes we noticed after the fact. we are planning to do another comparison when the camera comes out, so don't worry
@OmniVisionElite
@OmniVisionElite 5 жыл бұрын
It looks really wide...will this camera even fit on a ronon-m?
@davidp158
@davidp158 5 жыл бұрын
Your over/under test is flawed for the GH5 because the light is not blocked by the window frame as it is for the bmpcc4k. Of corse the bmpcc4k will hold more detail and contrast.
@supremeFTW
@supremeFTW 5 жыл бұрын
Dave Patterson and this was soo easy to detect so those both idiots are disqualify themself for having an opinion on that topic...
@davidp158
@davidp158 5 жыл бұрын
@@supremeFTW I appreciate anyone who takes time to create a video review. It's a lot of work, so let's cut them some slack. I was just pointing out an exposure flaw that anyone could have made (I speak from experience...LOL).
@supremeFTW
@supremeFTW 5 жыл бұрын
@@davidp158 ok...maybe my first answer was to harsh but those kind of videos are an inpsiration for customers and they spread this news....and this news is just wrong....
@vpr5562
@vpr5562 5 жыл бұрын
Guys i am very curious about some footage @1080p CinemaDNG RAW 3:1 - 32 MB/s, please guide me where i can see some?
@TheSlantedLens
@TheSlantedLens 5 жыл бұрын
theslantedlens.com/bmpcc4k-gh5-signup/
@tarjiband9904
@tarjiband9904 4 жыл бұрын
3:25 is bmpcc 4k graded in this shot?
@darrylsmith3102
@darrylsmith3102 5 жыл бұрын
You guyz missed the Best Noiseless medium high iso of the Blk Magic, ISO 1250. Cap the lens and you'll be stocked.
@jilee1721
@jilee1721 5 жыл бұрын
Such a nice review.
@Ryezn5057
@Ryezn5057 5 жыл бұрын
cool what tripods are those at the start?
@popptrp
@popptrp 5 жыл бұрын
Hope you makke this kind of comparison again but with the GH5S for a completely deserve.
@TheSlantedLens
@TheSlantedLens 5 жыл бұрын
Possibly in the future with the C200!
@eloelo9884
@eloelo9884 5 жыл бұрын
sorry same lens but no control conditions in the first test - light could change, recorded from a different perspective, different focal length, - why? btw i like bmpcc DR :)
@joedidit3233
@joedidit3233 2 жыл бұрын
Can GH4 and GH5 Lumix 4/3 Lens's be used on the Black Magic without an adapter?
@TheSlantedLens
@TheSlantedLens 2 жыл бұрын
Here is what they say about the camera: The Micro Four Thirds lens mount accommodates the original, lightweight Pocket Cinema Camera lenses, and can be used with PL, C, EF, and other lenses with the use of separately available adapters.
@amineelboujjoufi6306
@amineelboujjoufi6306 5 жыл бұрын
Curious to see how the BMPCC4K compares to the upcoming S1 from lumix. Cinema5d rates it dynamic range to 12.6 stops in HLG mode against 11.6 stops on the BMPCC4K on BMD film mode. If it's true i am surprised. (Sorry for my English i am from Belgium).
@TheSlantedLens
@TheSlantedLens 5 жыл бұрын
We'd be interested in testing that out! thanks for bringing it to our attention.
@DrDaab
@DrDaab 5 жыл бұрын
That was a great Comparison. Thanks very, very much. I think you made it very clear that the BMPC4k has a better Dynamic Range than the GH5. Some other factors which you discussed favor the GH5, but the one that's best for you really depends on your needs such as the the difference in battery life between the two cameras. If you are shooting documentary work, you will be far better off with the GH5, or some sort of external super battery for the GMPC4k. What was not mentioned is that the BMPC4k includes the full DaVinci Color Grading/Editing software and that it costs less than the GH5.
@TheSlantedLens
@TheSlantedLens 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, Dan! And yes, that is a great point about DaVinci being included! That's a benefit we should have mentioned.
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