Black Metal and Nazism

No musical genre has a stronger association with Nazism than black metal. However, black metal is by no means a musical extension of Nazism. In this video, I look at how that association came to be, how to spot bands with such ties, and how to engage with the genre around it.

[@ItzBruce-po2bv]

"Uhhh let's criticize only Christians but never Judaism or Islam within our music!"

[@marcodalmonte5554]

No worries...just take burzum or the lead singer of shining - in Sweden or Norway in the 90s they didn't give a fuck about islam - Just look at their interviews from 2010 onwards

[@countydude8654]

Uhhh,because they come from Christian-majority countries?

[@Survivalist-of-war]

Islam and Judaism didn't butcher and genocide Scandinavia people back in the day. So there's alot more resentment toward Christians. Growing up we didn't see any Arabs but we did see christian churches.

[@michaeljohnston8891]

Nile’s got you covered on the last one lol

[@schnitzelberry]

As an atheist, yeah we can criticize religion but what’s the logic behind being against whole ethnicities. I love black metal and I’m also Jewish but ethnically and I want to know that I can go to shows and not get my ahh beat.

[@suoquainen]

It's never getting old. It was an endless discussion in the 90s and every decade after. Black Metal always was highly influenced by Punk since the very beginning and bands like Venom even had songs like Metal Punk or Long Haired Punks and so on. If there wouldn't had been a growing "we don't care, we're against everything" mentality in Black Metal, things would had been running differently.

[@oneeyemoon7789]

Bro spends 25 minutes naming NSBM bands, showing their wiki info, names a NSBM music festival, then concludes the best Anti-NSBM action is to avoid discussing NSBM so you don't bring attention to them. ?

[@maleexile9053]

​@DouglasHeeren-k1walso Franco wasn't fascist

[@CannabisReviewPDX]

​@@maleexile9053lmao literally nobody thinks Franco wasn't a fascist, that's beyond well accepted.

[@leliel4910]

Weird take. Even in cases like this where the best response is to not bring attention to such people, if they deliberately obfuscate their beliefs, it becomes important to detail how they do so. Plus, I'm pretty sure every NSBM fan already knows most of the examples I provided.

[@oneeyemoon7789]

​@@leliel4910@25:00 "...rule number one.. at minimum... do not.. discuss NSBM bands. " This isn't a 'weird take', it's your own conclusion stated in the video.

[@leliel4910]

Oh so you're just being deliberately dense. Yes, I did say that, but I thought the caveat that that doesn't apply if you're trying to show people how to identify NSBM bands so that they can avoid them was so obvious that I didn't have to say it out loud. What you're saying is on par with claiming that a guide on how to survive a mass shooting is just showing people how to commit mass shootings.

[@mhermit]

Over 99% of these are kids looking to violate what they see as the last taboo.

[@Navarothravenheart2688]

Youu literally talking about genre filled with perversion, violence, demonic etc. What is so shocking about some bands making evil political? It's part of the genre and good tourist repplent.

[@leliel4910]

I have no problem with misanthropy. In fact, it's one of the things I like about black metal. But what purpose does focusing it on certain groups of people over immutable character traits have besides giving people like you a false sense of superiority?

[@Paleoprimal]

@@leliel4910 Wow, you're a little simple minded. You like misanthropy, but hate when people follow through with it? Haha

[@leliel4910]

Only in a particular set of instances? Did you read my question at the end at all?

[@shannonm.townsend1232]

@@Paleoprimal misanthropy more of a broad spectrum hate buddy

[@HellOnEarth93]

Most right leaning people I know don't care about my politics. Most left leaning people I know always ask me to try to use it as a trap. Just a thought.

[@atheistanarchist]

Maybe it's because right leaning people don't actually care about making the world a better place.

[@leliel4910]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_mass_killings_of_1965%E2%80%9366 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guatemalan_genocide en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Terror_(Spain) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodo_League_massacre And yes, I know that there have been many massacres committed by leftist groups as well. I'm just saying that right-wing people care just as much about other people's politics as left-wing people do.

[@HellOnEarth93]

@@leliel4910 depends where you are in the world I suppose

[@Paleoprimal]

Whoa, super edgy and brave. Another video about "Nazi's."

[@catmeow11111]

Oh no! They are talking about your mates! Wahh! I don't want you to talk about my nazi friends! WAAAAAAH!

[@leliel4910]

I do think that the term "Nazi" gets thrown around too much these days, but if you don't think that the people in bands like Walknut or either Jewicide are Nazis, I don't know what to tell you, it's right there in the names.

[@Paleoprimal]

@@leliel4910 Nobody is coercing you into listening to those bands. There's lots of bands I listen to that are diametrically opposed to me politically and religiously, but do I start calling them out and try to get them cancelled? Nope. Let them exist in the realm of free speech and leave it alone. Making an entire video about it makes you look weak in several areas, especially given that this topic has been discussed into the ground.

[@leliel4910]

Bands with such an obviously genocidal philosophy like either Jewicide should not have free speech, giving them that right unconditionally is not worth it given what kind of actions they can inspire.

[@nikhtzatzi]

Guy here doesnt try to be edgy. Youll get it after youre older.

[@kanskejonasidag1]

Imagine being butthurt over nazis being called out.

[@nara808]

The ‘Nazis’ were defeated in 1945.

[@KacyK16]

​@@nara808 they weren't dumbfuck. That's the dumbest thing you could say.

[@LuciferianStrings]

11:11 Something that should be said about Deathspell Omega is that 1) Aspa is not a "member", he is more akin to a session musician as he has no real impact on the music itself and purely provides vocals 2) the two most recent DsO albums have included critiques of fascism, The Furnaces of Palingenesia being entirely about how awful fascism is, driving a lot of influence from the philosopher Georges Bataille who was also anti-fascist

[@leliel4910]

Calling Aspa a session musician instead of an official member is just semantics, if he wasn't important to the band, he wouldn't have been kept on for 22 years. And I'm familiar with the lyrical themes of The Furnaces of Palingenesia, and I've even read interviews with the other members where they claim they're leftists, and that's all well and good, but they're still collaborating with an active Nazi. It would be one thing if Aspa were just some idle basement dweller, but he actively platforms overtly Nazi bands and even distributes Nazi literature. Now, all that being said, I can understand wanting to continue listening to Deathspell Omega, they have a pretty unique, and compelling, sound and aesthetic. But I think feeling comfortable doing so by claiming that they aren't sketchy is lying to yourself.

[@LuciferianStrings]

@@leliel4910 there's no proof he's been kept on for 22 years, he was listed on the credits of one project, assumed to be in others but no definitive proof exists. Also the band members themselves said he wasnt part of the core circle that actually makes creative decisions about the music, if i was a nazi and a full member of a band why would i both accept and provide voice to politics totally opposite to mine in such band? Metallum lists the same 3 members on all records since Infernal Battles but there are other members brought on that arent listed as well as not even actually having confirmation of any of this. Criticizing Deathspell omega for collaborating with a nazi is totally valid but calling DsO an NSBM adjacent band is just not correct

[@leliel4910]

Metallum is almost always right about these sorts of things. In fact, they specify that "...it is almost universally accepted as fact that he [Aspa] indeed is [a continued part of Deathspell Omega], due to the presence of his distinct vocal style..." If they are indeed right, I think you can call Deathspell Omega an NSBM-adjacent band, as they share a member with (i.e. are adjacent to) an outright NSBM band (Clandestine Blaze). Now, if they are actually wrong, then you're correct, Deathspell Omega was just sketchy in the past. But, if that's the case, they really need to come out and explicitly say that Aspa is no longer affiliated with them. I know one of the core facets of the band is anonymity, but it wouldn't really be breaking that saying someone is *not* a member.

[@LuciferianStrings]

@@leliel4910 if mikko is a constant (not confirmed, and even by what you've said yourself just speculation since you're going off only similarity in vocals in the records) he does sound different from record to record and must also know like 4 languages cause he has parts in english, french and latin on top of his finnish mother tongue. Would aspa, a finnish man speak french with such eloquence for almost entire songs? why would an admited nazi provide vocals for 2 records with explicit critiques of his ideology? also vocal style isnt that difficult to emulate if you're experienced and technically proficient. Even in DsO records before any hint of Aspa there are vocal parts that are very similar to records after him. The simple fact is that we dont know and metallum's info is limited, it is a known fact that there are more than 3 collaborators including multiple vocalists in the same records yet they arent listed which goes to show they arent all knowing and infallible but What is more likely? Aspa being in active in 13 bands while also running a label (according to metallum, only counting currently active ones), being fluent in 3+ languages, accepting to provide vocals for 2 records directly opposed to his worldview, all while having a consistent 20 year streak with a DsO or They managed to get a guy that sounds like him You simply cannot know in which records he is truly present but even if he were a constant he is still not granted rank of "member" by the core band members as they themselves have said in interviews, being a member implies control and input for the band which aspa doesnt have, he provided vocals and nothing more according to the band. i would not consider a glorified session musician a member of a band.

[@leliel4910]

You seem to know more about Deathspell Omega than I've been able to find out, so I'll leave it there. Though, I would like to repeat, if Aspa really is no longer affiliated with the band, they need to come out and say that.

[@wahwahrlock]

Idc if they are nazis or not if the music is awesome

[@scroto.player3000]

moat of the time it sucks ass, i can only name one nsbm band with atleast two decebt songs

[@leliel4910]

Not caring whether people are Nazis is (part) of the reason Nazism is prevalent again these days.

[@rapmetaldemon09]

I just don't believe relating more to my racist Christian grandpa makes for very "awesome" music or comes off as very black metal. Yawn. The same people saying this would tell antifascist bands to keep politics out of black metal

[@nisseheim4996]

In 2014 mgla went on stage with Mikko Aspa and performed Clandestine Blaze songs, one of which(Fist of the Northern Destroyer) has openly anti-islamic and antisemitic lyrics. Fash in the scene help each other out. They go on each other's labels and distros, create art or merch, play on each other's festivals and engage in general platforming. All while the cleaner looking bands like mgla who want to make money can say "we're not political". Their popularity channels enough fans to outright NSBM bands to make it viable.

[@Nick-nj2wp]

Anti-Islam and Anti-Judaism is a given in black metal. If you’re against Christianity, it is only consistent to also be against all abrahamic religions

[@mcdonut88]

"Dogwhistles" "problematic" just say youre gay bro

[@AlexOrtinsky]

So?

[@shawnlupori8042]

Do those words hurt your little feelings snowflake? :(

[@androgynousandy4538]

nothing wrong with being gay?

[@leliel4910]

Are those words too big for straight minds like yours to understand?

[@UTFx13007]

Also what's up with all those ad-hominems in the comments? Someone really stepped on some toes. I personally don't listen to NSBM - I listen to BM bands or albums that I like, which occasionally ends up being NSBM. BM can be quite sonically diverse and not everything with that label tickles my fancy. I'm a slave to my dopamine receptors, sometimes they get triggered by bands like Drudkh, sometimes by others with cleaner background like Alghol.

[@fireinthesky3379]

Didn't Marduk kick out their old bassist for doing Nazi salutes tho?

[@leliel4910]

Yes, but that happened the year after I posted this video. And, even if I posted it today, between their posturing and collaborations with Arditi that I didn't bring up, I think I'd still call them Nazi sympathizers.

[@straightfiremetalstraightfirem]

Don't mind the butthurt nazis, keep uploading stuff

[@ghostcat8244]

Honestly this is interesting since you don’t hear much nazi in death metal but a ton in black metal.. for whatever reason then again black metal isn’t as popular mainstream expect for the top 5 ones.

[@off6848]

Because deathmetal is just about intrusive thoughts and wholesale slaughter or violence in general Not much depth

[@SludgeMan90]

​@@off6848 so Nazis are deep hence they gravitate to black metal?

[@sabbatus]

​@@SludgeMan90yes a way of life is ussualy deeper than just violent urges

[@SludgeMan90]

@@sabbatus A way of life 🤣

[@sabbatus]

@@SludgeMan90 what else

[@LuxuriousLenay]

I knew a guy who liked black metal. I'm new to metal, and I like some of it. This guy was a huge fan of Mayhem, but I really liked him, and later he cut me off. So I guess the fact that I'm half black really didn't help his case 😤

[@phil_gaming8477]

Maybe you should stay out of the genre if it scares you so much

[@leliel4910]

Black metal doesn't scare me. In fact, it's one of my favorite genres, I love bands like Enslaved, Ulver, Gorgoroth, Blasphemy, Windir, Blut aus Nord, Summoning, and many more. And NSBM in particular doesn't scare me either. I just don't think it should be tolerated for the reasons I laid out in the video.

[@DiabeI1312]

although it woudnt be as dense with nazism as black metal id enjoy a video on nazism in the punk genre

[@MrNUKECOW]

Nice video, ignore the shitty comments

So, guys, here we are. We are not allowed to write songs about history, heritage and folklore anymore because our bands will be considered "unsafe" in such a humble, loving, positive and bright genre as black metal. On the serious note tho, I don't give a flying fuck about the lyrics as long as there are kicking riffs. However, so far I've found many good black metal bands associated with NS or "sketchy" themes, as modern pro-communists from countries that have never experienced communism, would say, but I've not found a good RABM band. Not a single one. No, I won't try Panopticon, Dawn Ray'd or Sorgsvart. All of this shit sucks. On the other hand, these bands' music just cannot be compared to the best releases of acts like Absurd, Goatmoon, Stahlfront, Totenburg, Nokturnal Mortum or Nordglanz. You can try to come up with whatever you want but the sad (for you) fact is that there are better musicians in the so-called "nazi" bands than the so-called "communist" bands in black metal. Are there better bands with non-political lyrics in the regular black metal? Yes, Dissection's music is unsurpassed till this very day and it is better than ANY political band's music. But that's not the point here. The sole fact that there are people today who research if a black metal band has provocative lyrics and use terms like "safe", "questionable", "sketchy" and stuff like that, makes the whole picture very pathetic. Why would you even bother with listening to black metal in general if you are afraid that you will be butt hurt by the lyrics? From all of the sub-genres of metal and music genres in general, you have decided to listen to the one which has the highest risk of containing bands whose lyrics will be inappropriate to you. I don't get that, really.

[@nikhtzatzi]

Many people write historic songs. Power metal is stacked as it is atmospheric black bands...anyway whiever is butthurt propably thinks "i love impaling tur*ks" is some revoluniorary educational history lesson -.-

@@nikhtzatzi They have no problem with misanthropy because "hating all guys equily bruh" but if a specific group is targeted... :)

[@andrija1764]

Imagine, people get into a controversial anti-mainstream genre and then get mad when the genre is controversial. Who cares about the band's political beliefs? I listen to both left and right wing bands, not just in metal, but generally.

[@nikhtzatzi]

@@andrija1764 You know we that support not being a racist idiot, we still listen to the music. Is more like "i cant support idiocy like its normal" and less "i feel bad liking that"...hell no , burzum, horn and many more we all know will forever be musical geniuses, but we have to call a spade a spade about bull they spew..

@@andrija1764 Yes. Also, politics in general are not the best topic for (black but not only) metal in my opinion. There are way better topics for such genre but even if there ARE political ideas behind the music, I'm there for the riffs. If a band does not have quality riffs for my taste, I don't care if their opinion on whatever topic matches with mine. I'd give a chance to a good band, even if their political beliefs are different than mine, and I would also gladly pass a shitty band, even if their ideas match with mine, which I do on a daily basis actually considering the fact that most politically oriented bands suck musically.

[@andrewpequita6569]

By the way, Pillorian is Jain Haughms band too.

[@Vile_Melancholia]

It would be cool if you didn’t use non nsbm band logos when talking about nsbm

[@ViolentExposure]

Thank you, this video is great and very useful!! :3

[@Ilurblur]

Just wanna thank you for making me discover Sorgsvart

[@Balmung6661]

rather stupid video considering black metal has always been about hate, but besides that not even going into the history of nsbm but just calling out random bands is also stupid

[@leliel4910]

It's clear you didn't watch the video. Starting at 1:35, I spent 13 minutes discussing the history of black metal, how its national socialist elements developed, and the biggest bands in several of the most NSBM-heavy countries.

[@Balmung6661]

@@leliel4910 you didn't even mention absurd as far as I remember. That's all I need to discredit your video

[@leliel4910]

The purpose of the video wasn't to provide an *exhaustive* history of NSBM, it was (partially) to explain why black metal is the only metal subgenre that has Nazi ideology in any significant presence. Yes, Absurd is one of the most well-known NSBM bands, but bringing them up wasn't important to meeting that goal.

[@11111111111111111l]

oh man why are you even trying to listen to metal.. you people who feel this way need to leave and shut up and stay out of it. just hearing your voice, it has no business speaking about metal of any kind.

[@leliel4910]

I sound exactly like what someone into metal sounds like, and you're lying to yourself if you think you don't sound like that as well.

[@11111111111111111l]

@@leliel4910 people like you are ruining music and art for everyone, with your communist nonsense, you really just need to stop, you dont get to decide what everyone else can listen to with your stupid opinions, trying to shut down everything you disagree with, its disgusting.

[@leliel4910]

Cope and seethe nerdy voice, I hope your favorite NS bands get deplatformed and are forced to disband.

[@11111111111111111l]

@@leliel4910 you are the one whos hurt feelings are an inconvenience to the rest of society, the baby in the public square, throwing thier diaper around. in the end the one who ultimately suffers and fails to overcome lifes adversity will be the people like you, not because of black metal politics, but because of your very real and tangible physical shortcomings.

[@leliel4910]

Any neutral person reading this comment chain would say that you're the one with the hurt feelings here. And it's funny how you keep claiming I have "physical shortcomings", when all you have to go off of is my voice, and I've noticed you still haven't responded to my claim that your voice is just as nerdy as mine. It's because that one's true, isn't it?

[@Everythingistpurple]

I can't believe i sat through this. Some kid with a lisp who read a history on wikipedia(which is wrong) and went on metallum to read off some bands known to have "sketchy" members. Doesn't get any lamer. Average rabm fan.

[@wilfridsephiroth9213]

Can you say it without crying now sweetheart?

[@Everythingistpurple]

@@wilfridsephiroth9213 why do all these gay guys reply with sweetheart in comments? No thanks.

[@kanskejonasidag1]

I thought it was interesting. You on the other hand, comes across as an edgy kid. "Doesn't get any lamer", haha. The 2cool4school energy is strong.

[@Everythingistpurple]

@kanskejonasidag1 I'm 34 so not a kid. Learn your music history. This is straight bias.

[@kanskejonasidag1]

@@Everythingistpurple It's a well established fact that there are a lot of nazis in black metal. You can ignore it, but saying it is false is just ridiculous.

[@mountainspirit5858]

Did not watch. Left a downvote. Listening to Goatmoon rn

[@leliel4910]

"Did not watch. Left a downvote." And yet I'm willing to bet you think you're a "freethinker".

[@Big_fat_monkey_balls]

​​@@leliel4910nah man, probably just didnt want to listen to your whiny voice for half an hour, go smoke a pack a day for a few years then come back, maybe people will listen to you then

[@leliel4910]

So you only listen to people who will end up developing COPD?

[@lordofthisworld9077]

the very people who bitch about the ad hominem fallacy are the ones projecting it the most in the comment section

[@michaeljohnston8891]

From what I’ve heard, most of the bands I’ve heard with fascist leaning just don’t tend to be the kind of black metal I like. That being said, Deathspell Omega is probably tied with Meshuggah as my favorite metal band, period. I didn’t actually know what the deal was with Mikko for awhile tho, but that band has irrevocably changed the way I perceive music in general

[@GrimDerek]

There was never a "serious problem with Nazism". It's an extreme an isolating music inviting extreme and isolating themes in. It's a naturally occurring theme in Black Metal. That's really all. There is no "problem" because no real Nazism would ever be allowed to exist again in society. It's easy to see a problem when you sit on your auto-domesticated arse in some globalist country focusing on a small little niche microgenre within a genre (and many of the bands don't even call themselves NSBM, that was the lame "fans"), and not the real existing corrupted forces greater in the world than "Nazism" being expressed by artsy farts.

[@Boosterisanicecat]

"Nazism would never be allowed to exist again in society" Hearty chuckles were had.

[@shannonm.townsend1232]

@@GrimDerek there's a place called Gaza..

[@thegrimmfluencer]

Nobody cares.

[@leliel4910]

You cared enough to leave that comment.

[@thegrimmfluencer]

@@leliel4910 cool story...

[@leliel4910]

Please keep telling me how much you claim to not care.

[@brendenpeterson5684]

when most of the critical comments simply say "nuh uh" or "hah, nerd" to your points, you know you're doing something right. Good job!

[@UTFx13007]

Considering the last 2 years of war and how active Azov was during those, I honestly don't mind some of the money going to them. There is also a "ship of theseus" thing going on (how many original members are still left?) - of course new members could be just as NS-leaning as the old ones, but it's hard to say that since they don't really have time to posture politically right now. What I wrote sounds like a bit of a cope, and trying to white-wash them (oh the irony), but that's not even the worst thing I'm willing to accept as a "moral cost" just to see RU lose. t. left-leaning Polish guy

[@Joshua_Froschauer]

Fund Nazis to fight...Nazis? Ok George W!!!

[@UTFx13007]

@@Joshua_Froschauer now that I'm doing mental math I'm not sure I've funded more than a single motor for an FPV drone. I might have to start donating directly, maybe not to Azov specifically, but still.

[@shannonm.townsend1232]

@@UTFx13007 you definitely don't sound left-leaning, whatever that means

[@UTFx13007]

@@shannonm.townsend1232 it means voting for candidates that are being described as "the left" by Polish right-wing political standards. Those standards will differ between countries of course, and it is probably a waste of everyone's time to be more specific.

[@demontedd8619]

Learn to separate the art from the artist.

[@synthwavesun2450]

learn to actually watch the video

[@shannonm.townsend1232]

@@demontedd8619 you like mental gymnastics

[@jamesobrien1614]

If the music didn’t suck so bad and the lyrics weren’t so weak and pathetic I would listen to it. But thankfully we still have cannibal corpse is still around so there’s still hope

[@michaelmajkut8186]

Only 16 subscribers is crazy. Keep up the good work. Fuck NSBM.

[@darkenigma3]

You'd get stomped by one irl 😂

[@shannonm.townsend1232]

Doubtful​@@darkenigma3

[@horridgoober6386]

@@darkenigma3average nsbm fan is an anemic european teenager but whatever bro

[@michaelmajkut8186]

@@darkenigma3 Yeah sure xddd. Once they come out of their mothers basement...maybe then.

[@JaymzLee-rc9lj]

Burzum started the whole fascist shit in black metal

[@catsinjello]

But what if the songs are so good tho?

[@valentinelovesyou_.38]

they aren’t

[@darkenigma3]

What else says I'm so dark and punk than "omg I'm so scared of nzis they're sooo bad 😂😂😂 This only makes me wanna be one more

[@Charlie-v3u]

What a weird thing to say

[@darkenigma3]

@Charlie-v3u it's counter culture. Not meant to be understood, boomer. Crawl back into your mancave and let us handle it.

[@AlexOrtinsky]

What a genuinely strange thing to think

[@officialkazakhstanbrick2709]

Post nose

[@tomfoley1401]

It is alot easier to write than death metal. Thats why i think there are more nqzis in bm. Its more accessible.

[@bigbrainb4662]

great video

[@Zeitgeist6]

Sorry but saying black metal has a serious problem with nazi-ism is just wrong. Yes there are far right bands (same as in punk, noise, neo-folk or other genres), but those are a small segment of the vast amount of bands out there in this genre. You may have some questionable bandmembers with other vices, but the Nazi's are just a small segment of them. Also even if a bandmember has far right sentiments in a way, doesn't immediately mean the band itself is NSBM (i.e. directly has pro nazi themes in the lyrics). Burzum for example to again name the elephant in the room. If anything Varg created what would become known as DSBM.

[@ajgor215]

lol if u don't see that black metal has the biggest problem with it being a safe space for nazi shitheads out of all metal subgenres then you're just simply blind and ignorant

[@michaelmajkut8186]

First of all...far right punk bands!? What? :D bonehead Oi is the only subgenre where that's possible but otherwise nooo fucking way. Second, if you are in a band with a nazi, then you must be pretty ok with nazis, cuz you are literally spending 100s of hours with that person not even mentioning what was already said in the video, that they get together with other nazis, collaborate, play shows together etc. Don't gaslight yourself.

[@leliel4910]

You have a very high bar for what constitutes a serious problem then. Punk is a mostly leftist genre, while noise and neofolk are even more niche genres than black metal. And there are no other genres, of which there are over 1,000, that have as big of a proportion of Nazis as black metal does. How many other genres have a dedicated subcategory for bands with national socialist themes? That sounds like a serious problem to me.

[@firstbloodpro97andersen33]

I wouldnt call it a problem haha

[@KacyK16]

I call you existing a problem.

[@bluBlaq33]

As a Gay dude who is a person of color. The BM sound connected with me. Due in part to my frustration with not fitting into the ideologies of Gay culture, and white supremacy from white Gay men. Also just the struggles of religious upbringing internally shaming you and creating self loathing. It was part of why I opened up to anti-abrahamic philosophy. The right wing aspects of it I find rather comical. How can a genre be satanic and yet have so much in common with the christian right. Kind of an Oxymoron.

[@oneeyemoon7789]

Lyrics glorifying satanic sacrificial murder and rape of innocents isn't an issue. Politics though...

[@leliel4910]

Nazism is directly responsible for the deaths of at least 70 million people. How many deaths is Satanism responsible for?

[@oneeyemoon7789]

@@leliel4910 70 million people? Lol Wtf

[@leliel4910]

Yes? World War II never would've happened if the Nazis hadn't come to power in Germany, so every resulting death is directly due to Nazism. And the number includes those due to the Holocaust and paramilitary death squads for the same reason.

[@oneeyemoon7789]

@@leliel4910 But lyrics glorifying murder and rape are fine?

[@TheFinderOvDrama]

@@oneeyemoon7789most of metal heads wouldn’t act upon the lyrics. It’s just the theme of the music. I do like the mental health lyrics, the horror gore lyrics are funny. Now I don’t mess around with political lyrics cause it’s kinda cringe. The whole NSBM kinda has an inner circle of extremists. That can go with any side of course but still happens

[@user-eo4tb1dy7w]

You ended up in my news feed so you're doing something right

[@atheistanarchist]

Imagine being a literal Nazi lmao

[@martinroelofse966]

Ha Ha black metal and N.S. seems strange In the real rightwing movement showing up with long hair and all it will get you in big problems for sure So for real 88 music don't go there

[@maleexile9053]

Redneck rap ok ni

[@davidcauley9400]

Amazing

[@swagpilledcommisar]

good vid

[@devilsadvocate8946]

Nice m8

[@BESTIACRUEL8]

I don’t have a problem with it. Black metal is not here to cater. You don’t like it there’s always death core

[@Ragnarokr]

Wagner Antichrist of sarcófago has a punk hardcore band these days whose lyrical content is neoliberal politics.. That unfortunately puts him on the far right side of the spectrum.

[@leliel4910]

Yeah, in fact, when I was doing research for this video, I discovered that he's now a professor of economics, and I thought I read somewhere that, along the way, he became a libertarian. That being said, I can't find anything verifiable that says that now, so he may not be quite that bad.