Black Powder Shooting Using No patches - Running and Reloading - Hand / palm loading of Ball

Checking out whether a black powder rifle has any accuracy without using patches. The results are dismal.
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[@kevincollins8014]

Pouring the powder around the ball was really cool. I would have never thought it would be that accurate. As always thanks for sharing the videos with us and blessings to you and your family Mark.

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

Thanks for watching my friend.....

[@kevincollins8014]

@@blackpowdermaniacshooter 👍😁

[@folday6169]

Mark, thanks for braving the cold winter temps to keep your videos coming! Yesterday, here in Maine, it was -12 deg! It’s a lot more fun inside by the fire watching your videos rather than going to the range!

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

Brrrr...-12 degrees is way too cold my friend! Thanks for watching....

[@peterrussell798]

Glad to see the Kentucky .50 flinter back in action. Always fun to play with ball/patch combos. Thanks for the video.

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

I love trying things others only talks about! More of this type fun coming soon. Thanks for watching....

[@vincewoolley6774]

Thank for posting. Yes Sir it was a cold end to December. Good shooting with the windy conditions.

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

Thanks my friend....I seldom get out when it is cold anymore. That day was tolerable.

[@MrTudenom]

That’s good to know! Thanks!

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

Thanks my friend...

[@BigAl52]

Nice job Mark. I hate the cold weather to. Always look forward to BP Maniac shooter videos on Sundays.

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

Thanks for watching....I still havea few more coming...Hurry up warmer weather!

[@hillbillydan4721]

Now that's what I call dedication, shooting even though you can't feel your fingers and toes !! From one Eastern Kentuckian to another, enjoyed the video my friend !!

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

Thanks for watching....hurry up warmer weather!

[@howardthompson4677]

Thanks Mark for braving the cold as always your videos are great

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

Thanks for watching....hurry up summertime!

[@MrSurepoint]

Thanks, Mark for the new video. I always look forward to and enjoy them.

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

Thanks for watching....

[@daveyjoweaver6282]

Thanks for making my morning a black powder and coffee sunshine day! Ahhhhhh! Black Powder! Kind Thanks and Many Blessings! DaveyJO in Pennsylvania

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

Thanks for watching....

[@millertyme4114]

Great video..

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

Thanks for watching......that one was fun putting together.

[@ku4ap]

GREAT fun…!! Thanks for the edutainment mark. Keep it up…..

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

Thanks for watching my friend.....

[@ronwilson3414]

Thanks Mark for making a cool video!!! Keep shooting

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

Thanks for watching....keep on shooting brother!

[@MrRufusjax]

You are having entirely too much fun my friend!

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

Thanks for watching...this hobby has me obsessed! LOL

[@mikef3808]

38 degrees, that sounds quite nice.

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

Maybe for you my friend, but for me, anything colder that 80F is too cold! Thanks for watching....

[@williamcastleberry7338]

From another Kentuckian, Western Kentucky that is. Good video. I'm just getting into black powder myself. I have a inline Knight wolverine 50 caliber. I cast my own round ball and make my own powder. I'm also loading some 12 gauge shotgun shells to use in a old single shot that I have. I'm sure I will wind up with a flintlock or a percussion long rifle someday.

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

When you eventually get one of those ol' traditional guns....you'll be hooked for life!! Thanks for watching....

[@jerryakins1622]

🤣😂😅 Hey Mark ! I half expected to see the ball rolling out the end of the barrel before you got a shot off ! After a couple of shots of fouling that wouldn’t be a problem. Pretty cool about the powder over the ball test though. 120 grn. Wouldn’t be a problem on any well made barrel, I proof test my guns with at least that much. You’re a hoot Mark ! We love ya ! Blessings to y’all !

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

Thanks Jerry.....that's the most I've ever shot from a rifled gun. I've used that amount in that smoothbore a few times. Its pretty potent! Thanks for watching....

[@mrdinme.4768]

Brr, chilly. We have low teens here, wind is calmer this morn. Tried this when I was a younger fella, about same results, lol. I don’t run like I used too either. Still fun though. Godspeed

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

Thanks for watching....hurry up summertime!

[@TomMJH]

Good video! Thanks for posting it!

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

Thanks for watching...this one was fun putting together!

[@royschalk6554]

Nice job Mark!

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

Thanks for watching Roy.......

[@SR-tj4cb]

Great Video again Mark....

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

I love trying different stuff that others usually won't try! Thanks for watching.

[@ralphperez4862]

Fun fun fun. Thanks Mark. Yeah, it's cold. It's 17 degrees this morning here in Eastern Idaho. Last week, we were negative 22 with wind chills making in -36. Too cold to shoot. Your temps are perfect. I know that the wind cuts right through you even at those warmer temperatures.

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

YES, IT DOES! Its cold her with that northernly wind blowing! Brrrr...LOL. Thanks for watching....

[@Nick-wn1xw]

You mean too cold to shoot comfortably. The guns still work even if we don't wanna.

[@barrygraber9776]

Good one. Thanks Mark

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

I enjoyed putting this one together. It would have been better if it was 50 degrees warmer! LOL. Thanks for watching.

[@Bayan1905]

Ahh the naked ball, works great with a wad over it with a smoothbore, not so much for the rifles. I found that with my .50 rifles, a .010" patch with a .490" ball works really well especially with 55-60 grains of FFFG powder, very accurate in every gun I've tried it in.

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

That is a good combo! Thanks for sharing it & watching....

[@thess344]

Been wonderin' where the Kentucky been. Got mine out a couple times for PA flintlock '23.

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

Its been lonely lately because I've spent too much time playing with the other ones I have...LOL. Thanks for watching....

[@briansherrillruralliving9708]

Another good video Mark

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

Thanks for watching....looking forward to getting back together with you fellars in August & making another video.

[@chesterbarnhardt5346]

You got it bad, thanks for the video.

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

Yes, I do...Mrs BPMS says I'm obscessed! I tend to believe her...LOL. Thanks for watching....

[@jerryroesener5937]

Keep it up you do an awesome job. I've been shooting a new flint and trying different stuff to find out what it likes

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

You'll be hooked before long if you aren't already. Testing crazy stuff like this is always interesting, I love it! Thanks for watching....

[@wetzel041]

The technique for estimating a powder charge is to hold the ball in the palm of the hand and then pour powder on the ball until it is covered.

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

Thanks my friend......

[@hawknives]

Christ Bless you, Black Powder Maniac Shooter, and Thank You!

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

110% agree..Christ loves us. Thanks for watching...

[@youtubesucks-yx6kk]

Pretty interesting results It would be really interesting to see a chronograph test of this compared to the normal patch and ball method if possible.

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

I can make that happen soon. I know a fellar that has one of those devices. I'll see if that can be arranged....

[@GO_OutDoors]

We can give the running & reload with my drone when you come up to do some plinking! Man that 120 grain load wacked your shoulder good!!

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

I'll take you up on that. I plan on running/reloading for everything I have in me to achieve that in less than 20 seconds...hopefully! I'll look youup sometime this summer. Thanks for watching....

[@independentthinker8930]

Enjoyed it!

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

Thanks my friend.....

[@TheGhostrider1959]

Looks like left handed shooting is working good for you....i've shot bare ball in a smooth bore but never have in a rifled barrel....but I think I'll try it know....I didn't see you put anything over the ball to hold it in place....think I'll put a small dab of tow in front of a .495 ball and see what happens....good video....

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

Yes, LH shooting has helped tremendously! Thanks for watching....

[@UncleSasquatchOutdoors]

The trick I've heard is enough powder to cover the ball not all the way around it. Anyway, neat little test. Thanks!

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

That was fairly accurate. I didn't think so before trying it out,. Thanks for watching....

[@genevisneski7708]

Interesting and fun video, I've never tried shooting without using a lubed patch, so I have to ask since the ball just drops down the barrel, would it roll back out if you tilted the muzzle down? Enjoyed the video 👍

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

It will roll. That's why I tap the ramrod to ensure it is seated. I've heard the balls rolling in prior videos before. Thanks for watching....

[@youtubesucks-yx6kk]

That's the scary part lol. I imagine if it rolled down halfway it would be the same as only setting the ball halfway, a barrel obstruction... If I had to use the method it would definitely be on a bench rest to keep the muzzleloader mostly level the whole time. I just wouldn't walk around the woods hunting with this method. Hunting stationary from a blind probably wouldn't be much of an issue though.

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

@@youtubesucks-yx6kk I have shot guns before with loose balls rolling around. It sounds funny for sure...!!

[@sarahworkman6364]

Shooting round balls with no patch is very accurate

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

I can't seem to hit the targets with or without the patches very often...LOL

[@brucebrutsman4939]

summer is just around the corner. I look forward to meeting you in person at the Hawken classic. I wonder if your prbs shrink in the cold I figure unless you use balistol/ water mix for dry lube , wet lube would stiffen in the cold. I as usual really enjoyed your video. As always God bless and have a blessed day,now get warm. Bruce

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

When you see us at the Classic, be sure to definitely stop & say Hi, we are going to be over there Friday & Saturday. Thanks for watching....

[@jeffshorts6052]

I’ve never tried this. I’ve heard of it in desperate situations like running and reloading like Simon Kent. It makes sense not to patch the ball. But does the ball seat in the powder? I assume if you tip it down it would all fall out. Cool video as always

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

It will roll. That's why I tap the ramrod to ensure it is seated. I've heard the balls rolling in prior videos before. Thanks for watching....

[@jackstitt1395]

I wanted to express my thanks for giving poor ol' Big Foot a break on this one...... 🤪

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

I'm going to wear him out this summer...!! He is going to be shot in various states all around the midwest USA just as soon as it warms up! Thanks for watching....

[@jackstitt1395]

@@blackpowdermaniacshooter 😵

[@sarahworkman6364]

Atles that what a lot of old muzzleloader shooter told when I got in muzzleloadering

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

I've shot them both ways numerous times. I love to experiment with the different loads, patches, etc.

[@jeffersoncarlisle3125]

Fun! I am about to go meet a flintlock group who meet every first Sunday of the month.

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

Awesome...you should enjoy that. If I were closer, I'd almost join you! Thanks for watching....

[@jeffersoncarlisle3125]

@@blackpowdermaniacshooter it was a good group, about 20-25 people! I got to shoot a Brown Bess! It was at a gun range. We shot from a covered area at targets 30 yards away. My powder supplier brought me some 3F there. It is nice he will bring me needed supplies once a month if I call ahead. I'm still not accurate with the rifle but having fun figuring it out.

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

@@jeffersoncarlisle3125 That's truly awesome you have that setup. Hang in there, you'll get it figured out real soon!

[@jeffersoncarlisle3125]

@@blackpowdermaniacshooter thanks! Sometimes I think I get my patch crooked and the gases blow past the patch and throw the ball off. I've been experimenting with bandana material and I think it is too thin and I get it not sealing well sometimes. I'm going to look for some pillow ticking. My balls are .490 so I need a .01 patch. Pretty cool how you shoot .48s mostly. I haven't yet looked for a .48 mold.

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

@@jeffersoncarlisle3125 I use the .480's for plinking mostly. I've tinkered with thicker patches too. Its all part of the fun!

[@robertrolfe472]

I had always heard to cup your hand and cover the ball with powder. I had not heard to pour the powder all around the ball.

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

I've heard it both ways......the 3F worked pretty normal. The 2 F surprised me. Thanks for watching...

[@Rumblestrip]

With my 50s i usually use .495s with .010 pillow ticking and 100 grains of ffg swiss for hunting elk and moose and deer. Recently swapped to lee improved minies with 75 grains ffg lubed with beeswax and olive oil. Better results.

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

That sounds like pretty cool set up! Thanks for watching.

[@Anne14881]

Have you ever had an incident where you squeezed the trigger, the powder in the pan went off, but the gun didn't fire? Happened to me 10 times yesterday. Btw my gun is a Traditions Pennsylvania Kentucky rifle chambered in .50 caliber (490" lead ball)

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

Yes. Occasionally the touch hole gets clogged preventing the fire to get into the barrel. Taking a touch hole pick with you ( straightened out paper clip works too ) and clearing the touch hole will help prevent misfires. This is demonstrated at the 6:04 mark in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b4jRhYKPnMSKZqs

[@bonnoughj]

You worried about the ball rolling down the barrel? Doesn't seem like it's tight enough to stay on top of the powder.

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

It isn't tight in some cases. That's why I either hold the muzzle up before shooting or push down a cardboard wad. Thanks for watching.

[@ronaldbrown5745]

With no patch in a rifled barrel will have a large amount of blow by and a dirtier barrel.

[@sarahworkman6364]

Well I shoot 490 round balls alot but never shot with on patch coz everyone said that would not work and blow guns up

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

Shooting .490's in a 50 caliber will work with or without patches and not blow up. I'm going to post a video soon showing running while reloading a flintlock with no patches or ramrod. They still work. Thanks for watching...

[@jacklowe3788]

I'm w/ you on warm weather- I think oldtimer meant go around the ball not completely over plus pour power out of crook of hand - I bet if you practiced 30-40 times you'd get pretty accurate- One of them things you just need to go for it at moderate pace don't second think it like pouring paint out bucket then tap it sharply to cut paint pour but if you go to slow makes mess- What mold do you use for .480 balls?

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

That's the 1st time I tried the cupping of the hand to measure powder. Pretty interesting. I use a .480 ball mould that was purchased from Track of the Wolf. Here is the link: www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/PartDetail.aspx/1202/1/LEE-480-6C

[@sorshiaemms5959]

70 to 75 gr is what works good in my 50 im going to try the palm trick

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

It worked for me...thanks for watching....

[@StevenMMan]

You must have four hands to have done that maneuver. I be dropping ball powder and paper iffin it was me. Mountain man

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

Thanks for watching...that's what makes it fun! .

[@kevinfoerster5510]

Mark, another killer video. Im sure youve covered this in videos before, but i could use some help. I have a 62 caliber hawken style flintlock, half stock, with a rice barrel 1 1/8 36 inches long, no swamping. I have shot the gun with 80 to 110 grains of 2f and seem to get similar groups with all. Around a 1.5 inch group at 25 yards. I settled on 90 grains. Do you think there is a benefit to shooting closer to 110 grains for deer?

[@peteandresenfamilyadventur8742]

I'm wondering the same thing myself. I'm shooting a Baker .62 rifle and the designated load is 95 grains FFG. I've killed wild pigs with .54 and 90 so I'm guessing this will work. Information welcome!

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

I agree with Pete Andresen....I believe 90 grains would be plenty to harvest a deer. That's a pretty potent load, especially if you are close to the target. Also..if you're achieving 1.5 " at 25 yards, you will have no trouble harvesting that rascal. Thanks for watching....

[@ab9d723]

i would like to see that with a ball big enough to engage the rifling. 50 caliber....saaaay .505 or so. like we do in pistols. if the lead is soft it should load easily.

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

Hmmm, I'm not sure I could do that. That would be a VERY tight load! Thanks for watching....

[@ab9d723]

@@blackpowdermaniacshooter actually no, i have done it years ago. this is assuming the lead is soft. for example on cap and ball revolvers you use a .003 to .009-ish oversize ball. no patch. when you press it in with the loading lever it shaves off a little lead ring, which tells you the cylinder chamber is sealed and the ball is "sized", when fired the rifling in the barrel spins it up. seems like .453 is what i have been using most of the time. for a cylinder that is actually .45 (this assumes rather soft lead. lead soft enough to dent when you are bored running your editor and chewing on lead rather than your fingernails.....

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

@@ab9d723 Yep...I use soft lead. In fact, I use .451's in a 44 caliber revolver. You haven't seen that video yet. I'll be posting that one soon showing how I shoot it with a tight load.

[@brucelewis1017]

What would you're take be on useing 3f powder in a 58 cal hawken

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

Most shooters uses 2F in those larger caliber guns, but, 3F will work. Start out with 50 grains of 3F and work up your load ( 5 grains extra at a time ) to see what works best for that gun. I'd predicted 65-70 grains will be best.

[@gaston01000]

The first shot for kill the british officer, the next shots for defensive shooting while you retreat into the woods.

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

Yep...that's what I would do...!!

[@gaston01000]

Or "Hit and Run"

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

@@gaston01000 Yep...faster loading for sure.

[@victortuten4399]

I still shoot with a patch every now and then, but I really like using R.E.A.L. bullets. A little fat for lube and no patch required. Darned accurate out to 50 yards. My range here at home doesn't allow for shooting past that so I can make no claims past that point. Loading is easy, cleaning is easy, and the projectiles are way more accurate than a PRB. They look just like a mini ball so they appear period correct. You should try a few one day to see the difference, it could cause you to convert!!

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

I have a request to try just that..trying round balls verses minie balls...I'm planning on it when it warms up. Thanks for watching....

[@jeffersoncarlisle3125]

Thanks I just ordered a R.E.A.L. bullet mold on ebay for less than $40. It should be interesting to see how they perform. My rifle is 1 in 66 twist though, so I think it is best for roundball.

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

@@jeffersoncarlisle3125 The 1 X 66 twist is best for round balls, I'm curious to see how well those bullets works.

[@jeffersoncarlisle3125]

@@blackpowdermaniacshooter yes curiosity made me order a mold...could be interesting!

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

@@jeffersoncarlisle3125 I'm curious too..let me know how it works out...

[@jwkennington]

Great vid, Mark. I heard that you cup the ball and cover it with powder. Gives me about 50 grains of powder. It seems like your method should include primer. I always shoot my Trade Gun without patches and a .590 round ball. It shoots well enough. Of course, I'm blind in one eye and can't see out the other.

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

I'm with you regarding my eye sight. Now you know my secret why I seldom shoot past 50 yards! Thanks for watching....

[@AndrewP-fj8rn]

That was just an old wives tale. NOT a way to determine a load.

[@jwkennington]

@@AndrewP-fj8rn True. But it works in a pinch.

[@SebxArmedCafe9579]

Could you test loading and shoot but using no ramrod. 🤔 Since sometimes I was wondering if reloading but don't use the rammer what will happen. And in fact, there was a kind of firearm from the Chinese Qing dynasty which was without ramrod. 😊

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

I've never tried that with a rifle. One would have to use smaller round balls to make that happen. I have tried with a pistol featuring a 9" barrel: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kIjHZGB3mbemgZo

[@SebxArmedCafe9579]

@@blackpowdermaniacshooter Woow, THANK YOU~ finally I can see the shooting muzzleloader with no ramrod;) But for a rifle, I'm thinking maybe the bullet will injure the rifled barrel, if using no ramrod, the patch will not be able to be used.

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

@@SebxArmedCafe9579 Lead won't damage the barrel. It is less accurate though.... here is an example: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZDMpmOQoNt3fLM

[@brucelewis1017]

How you like that shuchen powder

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

Love that Schuetzen powder. In order of usage.....Swiss is #1, Schuetzen is #2 and Goex is #3 on my priorities to shoot. The Swiss and Schuetzen shoots VERY well and the guns clean up very easy afterwards. I still have 3-4 pounds of Goex I will probably won't shoot again as long as Swiss & Schuetzen is available. Thanks for watching....

[@TheDave570]

That's called "Bare Ball "!!

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

Amen brother…easy to load - easy to shoot..!!

[@tbladesmith]

If you wanna run and reload, you need paper cartridges. That’s the method they used in the 18th century

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

I couldn't do that...it would take too long. I've never read anywhere where Lewis Wetzel or Simon Kenton used paper cartridges. Paper was scare on the frontier back then. They used loose powder in powder horns and Wetzel carried 3-4 lead round balls in his mouth. That was the fastest way to reload on the run. Thanks for watching.

[@shanestephenson4312]

Why won’t my hawks s fire .. I’ve used 15. Apps and no fire

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

It could be a dull flint, could be a blockage in the touch hole, if you're using substitutes powders ( pyrodex, 777 ) they won't fire very reliable either. It can be any number of combinations. Try picking the touch hole, sharpen or replace the flint & be sure the barrel isn't blocked or loaded. Those are the usual culprits that keep a flintlock from firing. Thanks for watching.

[@thomasbreig1576]

Used a tree a time or two myself. Lol

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

Yep...I've used trees quite few times...LOL Thanks for watching.

[@terryqueen3233]

When you measure in the palm of your hand wouldn't the charge change due to the size of the round? It would also change if you cupped your hand instead of laid it flat plus it also seems that it would change due to the size of your hand. I have small hands. It seems to me there's all types of variations with your hand. Well I suppose I'm just going to have to get out there and try it huh? This video gave me a lot to think about but I suppose I'm going to have to find someone with a large hands in order to test my theory. Come to think of it my grandson has even smaller hands, he shoots my traditions 50 caliber Hawkins but we have to rest it on sandbags because he can't hold it up yet, he's only 11. I wonder how that would work. Well I guess I'll just go test and find out. You really don't have to shoot when you test with the palm of the hand although it's a lot funnier if you do. Thanks for the video and thanks for the conundrum I have going around in my head. I know Jesus loves you and I know Jesus loves me and I know he loves us all, may he protect us through this up-and-coming Fiasco. Hang on people we're going back to using black powder guns again, that is if we let him take our other guns. Think about it. Keep ye powder dry!

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

I'm interesting in seeing how the palm of the hand theory works for you guys using those various size hands. Let me know....Thanks for watching....

[@ixb1]

I shoot .512 ball and paper wad.

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

I have some .570's I'm going to try soon in paper. That should be interesting. Thanks for watching..

[@howarddeheer8295]

My Flintlock seems to shoot best with 70 grains 2ff

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

That sounds like a great combo for best shooting….I’m going to start using 2F Schuetzen very soon.

[@howarddeheer8295]

@@blackpowdermaniacshooter I got got deal on schuetzen 5 or 6 years ago for 4 something a pound I got 7 pounds and some for my brother. No handle it in my area

[@GunDrone]

Hi, decent video. The old timers power and ball trick went like this. *You place the ball in your palm. Then you pour enough powder to only COVER the ball with powder.* You don't surround the ball, you are adding to much. Isn't .490 the standard .50 cal size?

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

Yes..the .490 round balls are pretty much what everyone else shoots.....except me..LOL. Thanks for watching....

[@GunDrone]

@@blackpowdermaniacshooter , Why do you use a smaller ball?

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

@@GunDrone While most black powder shooters may put 18-20 rounds down range during shooting outing, I usually put at least 50 if not closer to 75-90 round balls down range. Its just easier to load the smaller balls than those thicker ones. If I have to pound the ball down the barrel, it is too tight for me.

[@GunDrone]

@@blackpowdermaniacshooter , Understood. I am a lot like you. I shoot more than 20 rounds during my sessions. I admit that i don't shoot much round ball in my Bobcat .50. I shoot Conical R.E.A.L. bullets. but these bullets because they allow a better burn and some cleaning during shooting, i can shoot 60 -70 before start having problems with ease of loading. But the Bobcat has a standard old bore like CVA used to make, not the tighter modern inline bores they use now. I do however shoot a lot of round balls in the revolvers.😀

[@blackpowdermaniacshooter]

@@GunDrone Excellent. I seldom shoot conicals..I'm just an ol' redneck round ball shooter. I pour all my own balls, cut my own patches etc. The only things I buy is powder flints & caps. Everything else I'll improvise somehow.