How to make a muzzleloading patch cutter from a Hardware store Hole Saw | DIY precut patches

[@mattedwards4533]

i'm a little late to the party see this video is 9 monts old but felt compeled to post my thoughts. You have a good style in your presentation. A person that has an interest in taking up muzzle loading shooting would be ahead of the learning curve if they were to watch your videos. I have been at it for more years than I like to recall and I have learned something from you. Thanks!

[@Las-Vegas-Muskets]

Eastern Maine shooting supplies. Top notch.

[@bobfugazy4916]

Genius. Not just for muzzle loaders. Cleaning patches for modern gun owners as well. Awesome tip!

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Thank ya kindly!

[@archeryanarchy2274]

I take a different approach to the problem. I make my own loading blocks a bit thicker than the diameter of the ball. I fill them by cutting the patch material on the block similar to cutting patches on the bore. This solves two problems; the off-center patch and the offset sprue. I can take my time at home to get this done. Thanks for all you do!

[@markoharoldoronearmedpoohb7816]

I’ve always used a Scissors and a 35mm film container cap, as a template. it seems I’ve cut 1000’s like this. Then I would melt my home made Bore Butter and lay a dry patch down, dip a patch and lay it on the dry patch, and continue doing this. The lubed patches fit good in a empty 35mm film container!

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Oh good idea!

[@garygabrielle1056]

Thank you. A good winter project to try. Should go a lot quicker than scissor if it keeps a good edge.

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

You bet!

[@khester7397]

Looks to be a good idea for cleaning patches as well.

[@AscendRocks]

That is a really good idea. Thank you Ethan!

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

I can't take credit for the idea, but I'm glad you find it useful!

[@allenjones4949]

Excellent Ethan. Thanks

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

My pleasure!

[@SaltyJim]

Great idea Ethan!

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Thank you

[@thomasozminkowski2589]

Great idea! Thanks

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@corneliussulla9963]

Yeah thats a cool idea. It might result in a more consistent edge if the punch is in a drilling machine, like it would in its previous role as a hole saw. And then one could sharpen it with some sandpaper or a file, by spinning the entire punch. I have to try this some day.

[@khester7397]

Good idea. Could put it in a hand drill and spin it while grinding the angle against a belt sander or bench grinder too.

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Good thinking. Could have chocked it up in the lathe too!

[@Real11BangBang]

I'm going to have to make one of these now That it sounds like my woodsrunner is finally going to ship next week. ☺️ See you on the live chat tomorrow night Signed Ethan

[@bigracer3867]

Great information and videos! Keep m coming!

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

More to come! Thank you

[@FrontierTradingCompany]

Great stuff thanks for sharing!

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Thanks man!

[@joeinterrante7873]

Ethan please come to.the Artisan Show February in Carlisle PA

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

I hope to someday, but with my young daughter winter travel is pretty tough.

[@joeinterrante7873]

@@ILoveMuzzleloading that is understandable. Hopefully someone will record the show

[@mharm734]

One of the things I don't see mentioned in the news about muzzleloading is that there are a bunch of news articles online mentioning the pentagon investing in black powder production. Would love to see one of your shows going over it and what it means.

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

I’d love to cover it more in depth, I published a short article on it, but unfortunately not much can be said. The military/Blackpowder relationship is seemingly under lock and key in his day and age. While there is speculation online as to it’s uses, it’s been impossible for me to get more information than the DOD press release says. I’m open to any insight though!

[@mharm734]

@@ILoveMuzzleloading Washington times article august 11, 2022 said its critical for artillery. 3.5 million invested under the defense production act, 30 more workers put on black powder production and a guarantee of it being available within 2 years was what I saw googling it.

[@Bhartrampf]

@@mharm734 they are.probably talking about the goes plant come back on line and the prebagged charges used in mortars and big guns. Not sure what exactly the mix is , but they used to use duplex and triplex loads. That's just my two cents.

[@556suppressor]

Could you use a drill and rotate the new tool on the cloth? Would that cut quicker?

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

It might, but when folding and stacking the fabric in a press, it goes pretty quick

[@huyked]

Another youtuber showed that he did this. Seems to be faster and a cleaner cut. He spins in on a 2x4 scrap wood block.

[@TheStraycat74]

9:01 Kitty

[@davefellhoelter1343]

Nice! I have used hole saws I typically used to punch stucco before they go into trash! Now they have One last Use?

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

There you go! Reduce, reuse and recycled all in one!

[@davefellhoelter1343]

@@ILoveMuzzleloading I "was cheap?" now I'm "Green?"

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

@@davefellhoelter1343 You'll have to ask someone smarter than me, lol!

[@chickensandwich1589]

8:58 😻😻😻

[@BillyTheClipp]

I want to start my muzzleloader adventure this year, so here my newbie question: what kind of fabric use for patches? Thanks for all the answers!

[@jamescooper2618]

"Pillow Ticking" is the usual material being used but also 100% cotton linen is good too. Whatever you use, it needs to be 100% cotton, no blends, and about .015 inches thick. Be sure to wash the cotton 2 times and hang-dry before you cut patches to remove starches etc from the cloth.

[@BillyTheClipp]

​@@jamescooper2618 Thanks men!

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Yep, what James says is dead on ! Welcome to muzzleloading!

[@rogergoodwin5533]

I use whats called picken material. Material thickness test seal gasses on rifleing when pressing projectial to bore determine resistance.

[@calebfoster552]

Awesome video thanks man!

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Glad you liked it!

[@CaptRons18thcentury]

I ordered a 1 3/8 arch punch for cutting cardboard wads for my swivel gun...

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Good idea!

[@richardzacamy4605]

I have a .58 cal Enfield 3 band Civil War Era rifles. What would be a good hunting powder load for this rifle??

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Start with 50 grains, shoot a 5 shot group at 50 yards, add 5 grains, shoot a 5 shot group and go up to around 100 grains. Compare your groups and then decide based on what's accurate.

[@tompowers8495]

👍

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

🙌

[@rfdsrd]

A cool tool, but really mostly about aesthetics. To be period/era "correct" material patches (where fabric use for muzzleloader patches was more than likely in the minority since fabric wasn't cheap, and in some instances nor plentiful) were either precut square or cut off at the muzzle or precut on ball boards for faster loading. Square patches work just as well as round ones. :)

[@BrettsCorner92]

I used my short starter to see if my patches would work. And they were fine but I left the patch material rather long. All I had to do was pluck it back out and it was fine

[@billmoran935]

Where do you get the patch material?

[@CaptRons18thcentury]

Any place you can buy fabric... 100% cotton pillow ticking... just use 100% natural material, cotton, linen etc.

[@TScottW99]

Walmart, Michaels, JoAnnes

[@CaptRons18thcentury]

Just make sure it’s 100% natural fiber… you don’t want unburnt melted gunk building up in your bore…

[@CaptRons18thcentury]

Just make sure it’s 100% natural fiber… you don’t want unburnt melted gunk building up in your bore…

[@billmoran935]

@@CaptRons18thcentury Thank you so much

[@andrewboyt-cullis6516]

Can you effectively use paper cartridges is a muzzleloader, like the Hawken, to make loading faster and more efficient. Can you do a segment on doing this please? Also what about converting a Hawken muzzleloader, again like the hawken, into a breech loader and could this have been achieved in say the 1850s?

[@J_C_Firelocks]

Great stuff Ethan! I cut at the Muzzle but I need precut patches for my 12 yr old son. Where do you get that thick rubber?

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Thanks Jack! This rubber came off a conveyor belt in our shop. Farm stores have a truck bed mat or horse mat that are very similar in toughness.

[@J_C_Firelocks]

@@ILoveMuzzleloading Perfect thanks!

[@robstirling3411]

Easier to get a consistent bevel by turning the cutter against the belt, with a battery drill. Try a self healing cutting mat?

[@egc04]

last time I went to buy cleaning patches at the store I left them at the cash they wanted $26.00 for a pkg I go to the dollar store and buy 100 for a dollar they are 100% cotton they are in the baby supplies section ....gasket punches will also work to cut cloth but more expensive ....

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Great tip!! Thank you! I'll have to keep the gasket punch in mind!

[@Blackpowderdad]

COMPLETELY unrelated question for you! Ahaha….. but I just picked up a cheap white canvas possibles bag for $16, did people dye them or was keeping them white the tradition? I’m tempted to use coffee or tea to dye the bag a natural brown or tan color. Please let me know

[@jamescooper2618]

Just my opinion, but I think the coffee or tea dye would look really good.

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Natural white/linen will naturally age over time and is often underrepresented in the historic reenactment community. That said, a light tea or coffee advanced the aging process but is noticeable as not-natural aging. It’s really up to you, I have some of both

[@Blackpowderdad]

Ok, thank you for your response!

[@Blackpowderdad]

Well 24 hours of soaking my white canvas bag in coffee water and it’s only a light beige color 🤬 lol. That’s ok at least it isn’t Snow White anymore.

[@god-tx4xz]

Those hole saws aren't adjustable. The one you have is either a 1-1/4, 1-3/8, 1-1/2, or a 1-5/8. The numbers you read were just referring to the chart showing estimated speeds for saws in that size range. However your advice on everyone selecting their own optimal size is excellent they just need to keep in mind the size of a hole saw refers to the outside diameter so the patches will be maybe 1/8 to 3/16 smaller depending on the thickness of the saw metal. Also they already make smaller punches like this that can be used to punch wool felt and cardstock for making paper cartridges. Thanks for sharing.

[@hillbillydan4721]

The Blackpowder maniac shooter uses a rotary disc from ole Wallyworld for about 10 bucks, way faster !! But if you have the time and willingness to try something new AND save $$$$ this is a cool project !!!

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Mark is so clever!! Love his videos

[@jessealvarado4319]

Workshop cat approves

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

He's hard to please!

[@johnmuffy2848]

Did the Floop give you the idea? Are you finally listening to the Floop? Floop needs a boop. perhaps a bonk or two. Good design. I muzzle cut the patches, but I will remember that one. Give the Floop a raspberry also.

[@rolfwood1757]

If you don't have a rubber mat, cut patches on end grain on a block of wood.

[@rogergoodwin5533]

Patches used round ball Minateman flint lock. 3 F B.P. in pan. Read commi below.

[@johnranyak1374]

I bought an arch leather punch. It was heavy duty, but even with a rubber mat, it still left threads attached. So I use a wooden dowel as a hammer with the punch upside down, it works, but it takes time. I think I will try the hole saw next, because I think the problem is the punch is too angular at the edge. I think sharper and thinner will work better. Thanks for the video.

[@tomslongguns443]

I use square patches , havent seen any difference in accuracy with them . For example , cut a strip of cloth say two foot long a inch wide . Lube cloth , then every inch cut cloth about halfway every inch . When you use it put ball in center of square patch and tear off . Simple.

[@1000186ful]

I made a punch at work out of a barbed hose fitting

[@ILoveMuzzleloading]

Good idea!

[@SuperSneakySteve]

Square patches work just as good! Save yourself time and money and just use scissors.

[@khester7397]

Hitting the punch with a mallet is gonna be way faster than scissors

[@SuperSneakySteve]

@@khester7397 It's not. Anyone who has punched out wads knows this and I've done a lot.

[@jamescooper2618]

I agree.

[@uarbor70]

U beat me to it

[@johnndavis7647]

I shoot square patches a lot. They are certainly quick and easy to use. My question is do any of the champion shooters at Friendship shoot square patches? The matches I shoot are off hand at 25, 50 and 100 yards. I am not a great shot so I can't say that I see any difference in my shooting. I am 71 years old and shooting a match is a lot of work so I try to do as much work as possible before I go to the match. I pre-cut square patches and put them in a altoids tin and I pour a little olive oil over them. I also premeasure my powder charges. I put them in 30-06 cases capped with 9mm cases and I carry them in a cartridge box. Because I do these things I have lots of time to rest between relays.

[@BrettsCorner92]

There's can save you a lot of money on the long run. I'm already saving money by buying right hand at guns instead of left-handed. I only shoot percussion so it really doesn't make much of a difference. No different than shooting a double barrel muzzle loading shotgun. Either way, a lock is gonna be near your face.