Coleman CT200 EX minibike / Mikuni carburetor / governor removal

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Black66

Black66

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@MOE13576
@MOE13576 3 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing nothing stays stock in your garage huh ?..It's all good tho..You got the need for speed,hahaha 👍
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, we have the need for speed. We had this Coleman bike for about 12 hours before we tore off the stock carburetor lol
@yardsticksteve
@yardsticksteve 2 жыл бұрын
This guy doesn't even use stock in his chicken noodle soup
@mikesbarn1858
@mikesbarn1858 2 жыл бұрын
I got my ct200uex used for $100 because it had problems. The head was never toqued down. Barely finger tight. The cylinder was full of water and the intake valve was open and rusted. Modded it out and now it’s a blast.
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
That's the way to get them ! The cheaper the better
@eyehearther111
@eyehearther111 3 жыл бұрын
Its such a fun ride, can't wait to make it faster!
@ontheflipsideedc
@ontheflipsideedc 3 жыл бұрын
I’m about to buy one of these, but I’m a noob. I’ve rode mini bikes my whole life and I know simple stuff, but a governor removal like that is like rocket science to me.
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
You can do it. It’s not to bad .
@ontheflipsideedc
@ontheflipsideedc 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 just got it today. I’m still nervous about totally removing the governor, but I’m pretty sure I found a way to bypass it with a zip tie. Do you know of the method I’m talking about?
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
@@ontheflipsideedc Congratulations! Yes, the zip tie basically turns the spring into a straight rod so the governor mechanism cant pull back the throttle.
@ontheflipsideedc
@ontheflipsideedc 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 I’ve heard a few people say that doing that mod can potentially cause valve float and I’m not trying to get that deep into the bike, but I did do a couple other little mods, I cut the throttle stop screw off and shortened the spring on the throttle cable stop thing, and I moved the spring that we were talking about previously to the farthest hole on the governor arm. Went from 19 mph to 25 mph. But I am trying to get to about 30-35 mph. So there’s more work to be done, just not exactly sure what yet. Might go with a torque converter, might just downsize the rear sprocket and upsize the clutch sprocket. Haven’t quite decided yet. I love the torque on this thing though and I know changing the sprockets can mess with the torque. Thanks for your help though and my apologies for my long rant lol
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
@@ontheflipsideedc With a 40 rear sprocket and a torque converter. The bike will be quicker and faster than stock. The torque converter makes up the difference in torque loss and then some, from the 40 tooth sprocket.
@Downtown.TonyBrown
@Downtown.TonyBrown 2 жыл бұрын
I can not express enough how fustrating it is to see you make it easy, I broke my throttle cable and this probably the best route for me to fix it, now to only figure out how to put this modification on. working on mechanical stuff should be pratice for monk training.
@Julian_Surron
@Julian_Surron Жыл бұрын
i’m honestly about to tear my whole house apart in a fit of rage because of this same stupid problem.
@Downtown.TonyBrown
@Downtown.TonyBrown Жыл бұрын
@@Julian_Surron what's going on?
@eddiesheeran5791
@eddiesheeran5791 Жыл бұрын
He's been doing things like this for decades brother, don't get discouraged! Keep at it!
@Downtown.TonyBrown
@Downtown.TonyBrown Жыл бұрын
​@@eddiesheeran5791well that was a year ago, I had to sell it lol I'm broke now. Appreciate it though
@malikmazyck9683
@malikmazyck9683 Жыл бұрын
For those who are like me that’s not trying to spend money all you have to do is zip tie the spring that’s on the governor under the gas tank and that will stop it from engaging. Zip tie it tight and I promise u will see a big difference mines go 41 mph and all it cost me was 3 dollars for the pack of 100 zip ties lol
@Black66
@Black66 Жыл бұрын
Check out the Ct200U-EX playlist and other playlists for zip-tied governor and many other combos with this bike. Thanks for watching! kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmG2nnSQf5ukjZo
@stonesbouldersbones
@stonesbouldersbones Жыл бұрын
Actually that mod doesn't work man, it just turns the spring into a linkage. To gain any rpm you have to move the spring outward. Stop spreading misinformation
@Ksvgfuifjs
@Ksvgfuifjs 11 ай бұрын
@@stonesbouldersbonesit got mines up to 43mph with no other mods 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️ Edit: 45**
@xavieralt2498
@xavieralt2498 11 ай бұрын
​@@stonesbouldersbones Ur the same type of person that says u dont need an aluminum flywheel when u rev past 4800rpm
@giovannihenry2343
@giovannihenry2343 8 ай бұрын
Thank you gonna try it out
@BrahTonne
@BrahTonne 7 ай бұрын
I am boring lol I kept mine stock for years now and I use it a LOT . Going for years now. Really enjoy seeing people doing mods.
@timmmmmmmmmmy1
@timmmmmmmmmmy1 19 күн бұрын
😂 After 6 years I got around to backing out the throttle stop. Now I'm on a kick to get more speed.
@BrahTonne
@BrahTonne 19 күн бұрын
@@timmmmmmmmmmy1 I actually put a little oil in my centrifugal clutch causing it to slip which lets it rev up more before friction. Gives a smoother and better take off. Mine is right outside my door and still using it. it sits outside and I keep it oiled a lot. I spray it down with WD-48 especially in the control cables etc. I did replace the wheel bearings and such with better ones and got those grease packed.
@smallengines4us922
@smallengines4us922 3 жыл бұрын
Mine went 35 with the stock carburetor and governor removed. You should remove the muffler and put a header. It will up the speed to about 38 with the mikuni. These are very fun bikes and you should consider buying a torque converter, specially with the weight of these bikes. I otherwise do love this build
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Oh ya for sure !! I really want to add that torque converter .
@smallengines4us922
@smallengines4us922 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 i have a stage 1 kit and a torque converter. It goes 43 without the governor. Also lowers the cruising rpm. Really good investment
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
@@smallengines4us922 A torque converter would really make this bike fly. . We have a few more videos on this bike . But no torque converter yet.
@smallengines4us922
@smallengines4us922 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 can’t wait to see em’
@goadmerle
@goadmerle 3 жыл бұрын
I have 2 of these the ct200u-ex and the bt200x. Both stock clocked at 15-16mph stock. Cut governor screws off now 25-27mph. So interested in what the stage 2 kit will really bring it to. But im thrown off by them saying stock is 25. Because both mine came governed at 15mph. I purchased 1 in Missouri and 1 in California.
@fatbuddycat
@fatbuddycat 3 жыл бұрын
I'm digging this build! I'm considering a small tire ultralight but where I live the terrain is a serious drawback for small displacement and sprockets.
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Now that would be a cool build if you could get an area to run it. I would like to see that
@nb5316
@nb5316 3 жыл бұрын
Man bro you are one smart man you're like MacGyver you can modify anything and that Colman is sharp looking bike keep wrenching love to see your work !!!!!
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Appreciate that
@paulcondie2520
@paulcondie2520 Жыл бұрын
Cars n camera who? Lol. Black 66 is my new mini bike channel! Subbed cause I like what I've seen so far. 💯💪🇺🇲
@Black66
@Black66 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Thanks for watching the videos!
@bradcarpenter2396
@bradcarpenter2396 2 жыл бұрын
Black66 thank you for your input about main jets, I ordered a set but haven't arrived yet.
@anthonygendron5648
@anthonygendron5648 3 жыл бұрын
A way to make this minibike faster for free (if you have the means necessary to add/remove links from the chains) is to remove the two middle sprockets and drive the rear wheel directly from the clutch on the engine. If your chain has a little bit of stretch in it it works better. Your acceleration will be worse, but I gps tested top speed to 44 mph (23 mph before)
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Oh ya, I hear ya. We could do that but we like doing things the hard way lol. We got this bike to 45 MPH in our later videos with the jackshaft. We added a header pipe, 40 tooth sprocket, and a 7-degree keyway. Check em out.
@CreatureOfTheWheel
@CreatureOfTheWheel Жыл бұрын
I do the same thing and it indeed is way better! I went to a larger rear sprocket to compensate for the loss of bottom end and I use a skateboard wheel as a tensioner/guide. I agree you gotta run a little bit of slack🤙👊
@lilbeviltwin
@lilbeviltwin 3 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah can't wait to see more upgrades.
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!! Ya, we have quite a bit more stuff we're gonna do to it.
@lilbeviltwin
@lilbeviltwin 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 sweet 🤙
@brianclark740
@brianclark740 Жыл бұрын
I have one of these. I can't wait to tear into it
@keithcola9104
@keithcola9104 3 жыл бұрын
I knew it was coming been looking for it!!😁 I wish u were my neighbor lol
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
That is awesome!! I wish you were too. We did more after this video. It gets faster lol
@MrLordfizee
@MrLordfizee 2 жыл бұрын
Nice learning new tricks
@apexlucas
@apexlucas 2 жыл бұрын
I had a torque converter and a stage 1 kit on my ct200u ex and I hit 50 mph with the governor
@ViperX260
@ViperX260 5 ай бұрын
would of been nice to see how to hook the throttle up to the stock carb for the govern removal
@Black66
@Black66 5 ай бұрын
Check out he B200 playlist. Shows stock carb hook up without the governor
@GliblyUnited8billion8
@GliblyUnited8billion8 2 жыл бұрын
An another thing when you were plugging up the whole you said you can use the sealer of your choice what is the name of sealer that you used an were can I get it at? My apologies for all the questions I'm new at this but can't wait to get this show on the road 😂
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
loctite will work
@GliblyUnited8billion8
@GliblyUnited8billion8 2 жыл бұрын
You got back to me quick lolz thank you👍
@rustybeatty6567
@rustybeatty6567 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Black66 you should have bought a Trailmaster MB200 or hurricane 200x in stead and and swapped the factory 196cc engine for a tillotson 212 and then installed a 12 front sprocket and done a full stage 1 performance upgrade and that is a high performance intake bigger main jet high performance exhaust and governor removal.
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
That's one I can still do later on.
@rockets4833
@rockets4833 Жыл бұрын
Was there any issues only removing the governor arm and not the actual governor inside the engine?
@Black66
@Black66 Жыл бұрын
No issues while the 196 was on the bike. Check out the CT200U-EX playlist for many engine and part combos with this bike.kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHnJaqyAosaNgqM
@jv.lyfestyle1010
@jv.lyfestyle1010 Жыл бұрын
Great video, What size fuel hose did you use for the tank going to the carb...
@Black66
@Black66 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, the fuel line is linked in the description of the video. Check out the CT200U-EX playlist for many more engine and part combos with this bike. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmG2nnSQf5ukjZo
@SpACeCruizeR2o3
@SpACeCruizeR2o3 3 жыл бұрын
what did u put voodoo on this vid man i cant stop watchin it
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! lol It's😂 going to make you watch it over and over lol
@SpACeCruizeR2o3
@SpACeCruizeR2o3 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 thats messed up man hay when u gonna get a motovox frame like mine it has good front suspension ..ur bke is cool tho too that green one is crazy fast now huh i bet u scared to drive it
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
@@SpACeCruizeR2o3 ya, I want one like your math at frame is sweet . I’ll try and get one . I tried that ten tooth on the little bike . It made it quick quick , but it tops out quick too so I put the 12 tooth back on until I can get a different rear sprocket so I can balance it with a little more top speed
@jameskaralia3110
@jameskaralia3110 2 ай бұрын
This is a 196cc correct and will work with all stock Coleman motors?
@troy22nd
@troy22nd 2 жыл бұрын
Nice, the black one wasn't available I had to go with the red one.
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Nice color! I have had the Coleman bike to 63 MPH, check out the video kzbin.info/www/bejne/i6GZhaOAntSje9E
@brianmcnamee2240
@brianmcnamee2240 3 жыл бұрын
If you hadn’t put in the mikuni carb where would you have attached the throttle cable to?
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Check out this playlist on my cc200u. Same set up with the re-jetted stock carb kzbin.info/www/bejne/kHevhJWkpK1ob8k
@tyeirvine3615
@tyeirvine3615 5 ай бұрын
How do you reassemble with the stock carburetor? Wish you didn’t skip over that part.
@Black66
@Black66 5 ай бұрын
Check out the playlist on the channel for stock carb videos.
@michaelanderson6215
@michaelanderson6215 Жыл бұрын
What happens if that clip falls off that round deal you took the arm off under the gas tank? Serious question will something catastrophic happen or no?
@filipinokidd0655
@filipinokidd0655 11 ай бұрын
It won’t fall in there cause it’s has a clip stoping it from dropping
@nicolec7290
@nicolec7290 2 жыл бұрын
You unhooked the governor but didn’t take it out. Did you just leave it set
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
This is a test bike on the channel. I wanted to see what the long term effects would be without taking out the nylon wheel.
@ant-lr5iv
@ant-lr5iv 2 жыл бұрын
Black 66, I need help again lol. I have a torque converter kit for a coleman hisun and now im switching it over to a tilly 212. The 4 bolts that hold the torque converter to the block are not threading in fully and im afraid im going to strip the threads in the block. Are these bolts the same size for both the hisun and the tilly or are they different? The bolts thread in a couple of threads but then stop. I appreciate all the help you offer.
@rexmontana3058
@rexmontana3058 Жыл бұрын
Been watching a lot of your videos…lots of great info. I was just handed a Baja mb200…at least I’m pretty sure that’s what it is. Looks the same as your Coleman but the frame is different. Same 196cc engine that’s locked up. The bike was barely used and left sitting outside for a few years. So I got a new predator 212 non hemi for $150 and am getting ready to put it on there. It appears that it will bolt directly in place. I remember this bike being slow and I’d really like to have a bit more go…will the predator make it faster by doing nothing else? Or do I need to remove the governor? Mostly just want to ride some trails with my son, but occasionally I might wanna ride down to the store or just ride to the fishing hole…thanks!
@Black66
@Black66 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! MB200 is a nice bike. The governor will definitely hold it back. If you don't want to do anything else throwing a zip tie in the governor spring will wake up the Predator like in the Predator free mods video. If you start spinning it faster it is recommended to upgrade the flywheel . kzbin.info/www/bejne/r2TTnWqBnriHo7s
@rexmontana3058
@rexmontana3058 Жыл бұрын
Watched that video and it was helpful. I’d like to see it go about 35 maybe….I think I’ll be happy with that for now, is the stock carb on the predator 212 good for that? It seems the Mikuni sticks out a bit and I’d be worried about taking a spill and breaking something.
@stanlucas665
@stanlucas665 3 жыл бұрын
When building a throttle cable for a Mikuni from an old throttle cable, use an axle spacer from a slot car. Safety tip, when starting your minibike or go kart, always put the front against a wall or something solid just in case you have a run away throttle.
@bankrollalmighty40
@bankrollalmighty40 3 жыл бұрын
I have the ct200u-ex and whenever I turn it on the bike just starts going full throttle any suggestions on how to fix that?
@stanlucas665
@stanlucas665 3 жыл бұрын
@@bankrollalmighty40 Did this start after repairs or modifications?
@bankrollalmighty40
@bankrollalmighty40 3 жыл бұрын
Yea it started after I did the modifications
@stanlucas665
@stanlucas665 3 жыл бұрын
@@bankrollalmighty40 What modifications did you make?
@bankrollalmighty40
@bankrollalmighty40 3 жыл бұрын
I took off the governor and I also installed a vm22 mikuni carburetor on it
@djcoolcliff
@djcoolcliff Ай бұрын
Quick question, is it necessary to remove the Governor gear in the oil box? After you do a stage one kit? Also the flywheel?
@hevid79
@hevid79 3 жыл бұрын
So did you use the original cable and just modify it or did you actually use the cable that came in the kit and did you have to modify that cable ?? Any details would help us out, thanks for a awesome video !!!
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Modified the stock cable. You can solder a new tip on the end. Or zap the cable with a welder to put a new end on it.
@meanmansur
@meanmansur Жыл бұрын
Quick question my minibike turned off while riding now when I turn it on it only goes 10 mph or less and doesn’t get any faster
@Str8zaatv
@Str8zaatv Жыл бұрын
Have the same problem
@natebessette273
@natebessette273 2 жыл бұрын
Hey i put a new carb on and took the governor off and replaced the throttle now when i start my bike it just runs wide open and takes off by itself?
@dunamon
@dunamon 2 жыл бұрын
My baja had the same problem. I put it up on a wooden box to free up the rear wheel. There are three holes on the governor arm where the spring from your throttle connect. I removed that spring & brought it to hardware store. Bought a bunch of similar springs that are the same length. Some tigher some looser, all the same length. You can also go on amazon and order kits of springs for you ride real cheap.. Use the new springs and try fitting it into 3 different holes of that gov swing arm. You will get the right fit sooner or later. Got mine to stop running wild at idle. Also GAINED 6 MPH!!
@GenZBiker
@GenZBiker Жыл бұрын
I have the same bike & also removed the external gov assembly. Just to be clear, did you guys ever remove the internal gov parts? If not, did you blow up the engine over time? Id love to be able to continue to run this engine with the mikuni carb but worry itll blow up w no gov.
@Black66
@Black66 Жыл бұрын
Check out the Coleman CT200U-EX playlist. We used this engine for many different part combs over the last couple of years. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmG2nnSQf5ukjZo
@GenZBiker
@GenZBiker Жыл бұрын
@@Black66 Just finished watching all the vids in the playlist. Great selection of content man. Can you confirm you never built the internals on the 196 or removed the internal gov? I have a built engine on the way in the next month but wanna enjoy the stock engine till then.
@daveecklund3369
@daveecklund3369 Жыл бұрын
Don’t you have to remove the governor internally for it to not engage?
@Black66
@Black66 Жыл бұрын
Check out the CT200U-EX playlist for part tests and engine swaps along with governor removals on the CT200U-EX kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHnJaqyAosaNgqM
@Deucealive75
@Deucealive75 3 жыл бұрын
That worked better than most. They usually get 31-32 at valve float with the stock gearing. You were turning around 5900 RPM.
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, this bike runs really well. We have some more videos coming up. We got it to run faster yet.
@justaguy2702
@justaguy2702 2 жыл бұрын
You guys are in Az huh? Can ya help me with mine?
@Noprivacy666
@Noprivacy666 3 жыл бұрын
So you can leave the governor in the engine like that
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
It’s always recommended to take out the governor wheel in the crankcase . Just one less thing to come apart . But with that being said a haven’t taken this one out or even opened the case with no problems at all .
@fallingalloy1389
@fallingalloy1389 10 ай бұрын
I have the same exact kind and I was hoping if u can upgrade mine
@1816x3
@1816x3 3 жыл бұрын
Did u even tune the carb ?
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
yes, I have multiple videos on this bike
@1816x3
@1816x3 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 u should get a 420 cc wit a pwk carb 💯💯
@thomaskane1129
@thomaskane1129 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a video of taking the governor off and using the original carburetor?
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
I have a video that came out last week on the CC200U . I jetted the stock carb .
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Same engine as the CC200U - EX
@johnwick-ii6il
@johnwick-ii6il 2 жыл бұрын
WARNING : Do not leave the governor mechanism inside the motor. It can, and will, come apart or move around where it will break the oil slinger off of the connecting rod.. Even the smallest broken pieces will jam the compression release from working.....or worse. If you must leave the inner workings in place, then re-install the lever and tie it into the far forward position. This will keep the inner assembly from coming apart.
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Please read my channel description and disclaimers in the video's. I tell people not to do what I do. if you do, you do it at your own risk. This is what this channel is about. Testing different combinations and doing things most say I shouldn't. By the way, I have had this bike on the channel for over a year with many different combos on the stock internal 196cc without ever opening the case. This is a durability test. It has passed so far. Check out the playlist. Thanks for watching the videos. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmG2nnSQf5ukjZo
@MRGreen79
@MRGreen79 Жыл бұрын
@@Black66 how did you keep the governor arm from spinning?
@GenZBiker
@GenZBiker Жыл бұрын
i wish i could see a picture of what you mean by tying it into the far forward position. I put a mikuni carb on & naturally the gov assembly no longer functions but quite frankly I wish i could’ve just kept the gov funtioning. Im getting a built race engine next month so for now i just wanna ride it with it governed.
@DavidZamora-jl3vb
@DavidZamora-jl3vb Жыл бұрын
@@GenZBiker what kind of motor fully built are you getting? And where can I get one? I have a Coleman CT 200 U.
@GenZBiker
@GenZBiker Жыл бұрын
@@DavidZamora-jl3vb It will be a Ducar 212 that Im having a local Wisconsin builder make for me!
@seanh6134
@seanh6134 Жыл бұрын
So you dont need to remove the internals like you would on a like a honda engine, when removing the governor???
@Black66
@Black66 Жыл бұрын
The channel is about testing different parts and engine combos. Check out the CT200U-EX playlist for many engine combos with this bike and others! Thanks for watching. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmG2nnSQf5ukjZo
@seanh6134
@seanh6134 Жыл бұрын
@Black66 I mean that's a generic automated sounding response, I'm looking for a yes or no lol
@chadsenters00
@chadsenters00 Жыл бұрын
How did you get the original throttle cable to work I swear I did the exact thing and it binds and I get so much free play and half throttle
@Black66
@Black66 Жыл бұрын
Maybe there is to much cable sticking out for the slide...
@chadsenters00
@chadsenters00 Жыл бұрын
Any adjustments that would fix my issue or just replace with new throttle cable all together?
@ShinkleGunDog
@ShinkleGunDog 4 ай бұрын
What is the intake manifold? I cant find it.
@Black66
@Black66 4 ай бұрын
The intake comes with the carb kit . The link is in the description of the video. Check out the CT200U-EX playlist for many more part test and engine swaps with this bike. kzbin.info/www/bejne/kIWmYo13oNqBms0
@samsonmartinez9773
@samsonmartinez9773 2 жыл бұрын
Did you have to take the side casing apart and take the governor gear out ?
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
This is one bike in the fleet that I havent taken out the governor gear. Definitely a good idea to take it out.
@samsonmartinez9773
@samsonmartinez9773 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much I appreciate you taking time to reply
@harrywright4919
@harrywright4919 2 жыл бұрын
Do you live in Arizona ?
@LuisHernandez-we6op
@LuisHernandez-we6op 2 ай бұрын
What did the white tube hook up to?
@troy22nd
@troy22nd 2 жыл бұрын
How safe is it to ride without the governor?
@beeeehbobooo
@beeeehbobooo 4 ай бұрын
What do you use to solder the throttle cable into the carb???
@peniaji_yt5762
@peniaji_yt5762 3 жыл бұрын
Guess what just happened, the same coleman mini bike you have right now, when I left the black fuel choke on while the motorcycle was off, gas was leaking and as soon was I ride the mini bike, the motorcycle was caught on fire and now its ruined, is there any way you can send me some link options on Amazon I can buy to get the new engine. It can be the 212 predator.
@peniaji_yt5762
@peniaji_yt5762 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 I should show you the video on my tiktok what it looks like it's damaged
@Farmtractor
@Farmtractor 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to do your modifications. Is the flywheel going to explode at your rpms? I’m worried about that.
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
I have never had a problem with one at the level this engine is at . If I was to add a cam and billet rod and other parts to increase the RPM potential, then I would start thinking of adding a billet flywheel .
@Farmtractor
@Farmtractor 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 thanks for your quick response! Another question I had is the reliability of the engine. How reliable would it be with these mods? Would it harm the engine?
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
@@Farmtractor This is one of the bikes we actually ride around a lot . It has been rock solid with months of riding so far. . The 196 cc seems really durable . The only problem we had to fix so far was the chain on the jack shaft .
@Farmtractor
@Farmtractor 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 that makes me feel very confident. Thank you so much! I’ll have to try this out!
@andrewgross768
@andrewgross768 3 жыл бұрын
could you put a link in the description saying where you got the carb
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Here ya go. The carb and intake www.ebay.com/itm/184813872862?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649 www.ebay.com/itm/254708226585?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
@timwalters5736
@timwalters5736 2 жыл бұрын
Hey what app are this guying to keep track of speed?????
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
I use digiHUD on the phone along with the camera GPS for top speed and a Dragy performance meter for 0 to 30
@mikepence7847
@mikepence7847 Жыл бұрын
What did you do with your throttle cable? I did exactly what you did and now my cable sticks in WOT after taking the springs off. I don’t understand
@zacharyd9029
@zacharyd9029 2 жыл бұрын
Did you eventually go back and remove the internal governor, I'm new to this and I'm thinking about doing the same thing you did, in fact the mikuni carb it's on he's way here now 😁
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
No. I have never had the case apart. Only external mods. This bike is kind of a test bike for me. I have been running the 196 pretty hard for about a year now. This thing has held up. No problems so far.
@zacharyd9029
@zacharyd9029 2 жыл бұрын
How long did you cut the cable to put the bit on it
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
@@zacharyd9029 The cable should have about 2 1/4 inch of cable sticking out of the cable housing for a VM22
@MrComeaucmc
@MrComeaucmc 2 жыл бұрын
Blow up the engine already so we can see the predator in it 😂
@scottyf1ame1
@scottyf1ame1 Жыл бұрын
What's that gps speed tracking thing you used?
@Black66
@Black66 Жыл бұрын
I use digiHUD on the phone along with the camera GPS for top speed and a Dragy performance meter for 0 to 30
@Partnerthedog
@Partnerthedog 3 жыл бұрын
So where you removed the governor arm, has it ever moved and died all the sudden? Or is it that simple. You made it look so easy and way simpler than factory..
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Ya, it is that easy . The Mikuni makes it so easy . Basically pull all the factory stuff off , install the carb , good to go . I really like the Mikuni . No messing with all that linkage , brackets , arms none of it .
@BradFFA
@BradFFA 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 does this apply with my c100 212?! Just picked it up tonight and it’s a torque monster completely stock!
@Iamrouge
@Iamrouge 2 жыл бұрын
Hey black 66 I got a mikuni but I put it on and the engine sounds like it’s going to blow up do you have any tips? I was thinking re jet Btw it’s on a brand new no mods at all predator 212
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe try the procedure in this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/g5-0p3yie71rnq8
@Downtown.TonyBrown
@Downtown.TonyBrown 2 жыл бұрын
what was the welding process with the welding tool?
@chog4607
@chog4607 2 жыл бұрын
soldering
@josephhasbrouck4795
@josephhasbrouck4795 2 жыл бұрын
Just removed mine completely and put the 18lb springs in . When putting the throttle plate back on with the stock carburetor, where do I put the spring so the throttle doesn’t stay wide open? Thanks ahead of time
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Check out this video. You can see where I put the springs. kzbin.info/www/bejne/o3XChqmaftZkqJI
@1koolblue
@1koolblue 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video, I did this mod but I left the governor arm connected. Does that make a difference?
@shawn1472
@shawn1472 3 жыл бұрын
Hello. For the mikuni was it the 22mm or the 26mm? I have the same bike.
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
It's a VM22 Mikuni but the actual venturi size is 26mm
@ChristopherJones16
@ChristopherJones16 3 жыл бұрын
I heard some guys using fishing line weights on the end of their throttle cable which they then solder shut after they pinch them on.
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of different ways to do it. I like taking all of the governor hardware off. It makes the engine more clean-looking that way.
@l.a.m7645
@l.a.m7645 3 жыл бұрын
You have a link for that vm22 mikuni I see too many models dont want to get wrong one for the coleman 200uex
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, give me a few minutes and I’ll post the link. When you get the mikuni I would recommend putting a little bigger jet in it to start . The jet it comes with will run ok but it definitely needs a bigger one to really run good, especially if you run a header pipe .
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
here's a link www.amazon.com/dp/B0927PVS28/ref=sspa_dk_detail_2?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B0927PVS28&pd_rd_w=y5z6v&pf_rd_p=eff89026-4a7e-4247-9014-41bfda9dafc0&pd_rd_wg=U17e5&pf_rd_r=S276DWQN1BF1SBFH11KD&pd_rd_r=4e926ef7-16bd-4b14-8084-35765a53ff7d&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEySzAzVjMwMUVQMFVYJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNjkyOTIwM0FNSTNRQlFZSVlTOCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNjQyMDk2MjZQSTFKNkhIWUw5WSZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2RldGFpbCZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=
@l.a.m7645
@l.a.m7645 3 жыл бұрын
I'm pulling the trigger on a Predator Hemi 212 for the Coleman camo 200 my question is should I do 18lb or 22lb springs. I will be doing stage 1 cutting governor screw mod torque converter with 9T/60T
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
@@l.a.m7645 I like the 22 myself . That is just me . I like them because of my favorite drop in cam . It requires 22 lb springs
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
@@l.a.m7645 Gonna be a beast!
@SpACeCruizeR2o3
@SpACeCruizeR2o3 3 жыл бұрын
how can i tell if my gov is removed do i have to take apart the engine its the stock motovox one that comes with the Motovox
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
If you see that little rod that sticks out of the crankcase that connects to the throttle linkage then it's still in there.
@SpACeCruizeR2o3
@SpACeCruizeR2o3 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 hey i think its not there because when i pull the throttle only the cable to the carb moves they have the throttle where your talking about bypassed or somethingdam i wish u can see it are u on messenger or facebook
@SpACeCruizeR2o3
@SpACeCruizeR2o3 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 would the mikunni vm22 fit on my motor or are they just for the preds n tillys
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
@@SpACeCruizeR2o3 It sounds like it is bypassed because normally when the governor is connected the linkage will move along with the carb. I'm not on Facebook. I need to sign in again.
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
@@SpACeCruizeR2o3 It will but that is a small engine for a VM22. I have a video that isn't out yet where I install a 19mm Mikuni on a Coleman three horse. It makes a big difference on that little engine.
@blakeedwards7525
@blakeedwards7525 3 жыл бұрын
Is the bike still running good without a gov. Enugu be still good?
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! It runs awesome . It’s been really durable so far
@205_AJJ
@205_AJJ 5 ай бұрын
i have an issue on mine where when you crank it it full throttles and the throttle isnt engaged and then when you try to accelerate it slows down like the throttle needle is up when you start it and when you acelerate the needle goes down and it wont stop i have to hit the kill switch anyone know any solutions?
@perez2451
@perez2451 2 жыл бұрын
Brother do you have a shop to help people with they build ?
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
No, not at this time. Doing it for a hobby right now, Thanks for watching the videos.
@jrc-fabs1634
@jrc-fabs1634 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, what are your thoughts about getting a bullet flywheel for this engine after getting a stage 1,2, or 3 performance kit. Do I need it?
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, a billet flywheel is definitely a good idea. Or at least one of the cast flywheels that is rated to 8500 RPM . They are inexpensive good insurance. I use one in the budget 212 build on the channel .
@emjester48
@emjester48 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure if you answered this question or not but I’m going to order this carburetor for mine tomorrow do you happen to know the fuel size needed? And Did you have to use any adapters to connect it to the gas tank, only reason I ask is I know on the Honda gas tanks the nipple on the tank is smaller than the carb and I haven’t pulled this one apart yet . Thanks in advance
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
No, I didn't use adapters. The jetting might be different than mine because of my elevation, engine mods etc. Check out this video on VM22 tuning. kzbin.info/www/bejne/g5-0p3yie71rnq8
@emjester48
@emjester48 2 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 Alright I’ll check it out, do you know the fuel line size by chance you used?
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
@@emjester48 The links for the parts used is in the description
@childofgod5115
@childofgod5115 3 жыл бұрын
What kind of carburetor is that?😎
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
knock off of the VM22 Mikuni .
@schry1014
@schry1014 3 жыл бұрын
You guys are in Apple valley?
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
We used to be in Apple valley. Now we are in Arizona .
@schry1014
@schry1014 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 Right on, I really enjoy your vids, I have the BT200X, bigger jet, governor zip tied, cold air stage 1 kit and header pipe. I topped out at 36 mph I'm getting a 40 tooth and see what happens after that. Just did a 40 mile round trip rideout carson to venice beach and back with 300 other minibikers, It was amazing.
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
@@schry1014 Awesome!!! It is a really nice bike. You have a nice combo. If you add that 40 tooth sprocket, I would bet you will see a pretty good improvement in top speed. Those ride-outs are super fun!
@schry1014
@schry1014 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 best time of my life, only 6 accidents, cops saluted us, no issues in a group that large, the sound in the tunnel under LAX was deafening lol
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
@@schry1014 That is awesome! I would love to run down to Cali and do one of those runs.
@emoya319
@emoya319 3 жыл бұрын
Hey man I have a question for you. Would you say this carburetor mod is fairly simple to install? You made it look easy but Im sure That comes from experience lol, long story short I tried to change my Jet on my Stock carb, but the old Jet got stripped somehow and it became a shit show, so now I have to upgrade it fortunately.
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Super easy! My next video on Saturday is doing another carb. It's not on this bike, but it's the same process. Check it out.
@emoya319
@emoya319 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 forsure man i look forward to it. I need to get my little baby On the road i just installed my torque converter and it’s night and day difference so I can imagine am upgraded carb haha good stuff thanks bro! 👍🏻
@KOOLPOP01
@KOOLPOP01 2 жыл бұрын
Ik it’s from a while ago but can you explain in more depth?
@Brady_builds
@Brady_builds 2 жыл бұрын
I remember back when I was a kid my father told me that taking the gov off of my go cart would explode/destroy the engine is that true and is it true for go carts and dirt bikes alike
@Brady_builds
@Brady_builds 2 жыл бұрын
@Dave N thanks
@Brady_builds
@Brady_builds 2 жыл бұрын
@Danang Alta do you know how I could do this with no risk like adding parts to it
@Erick71752
@Erick71752 2 жыл бұрын
Is this carburetor good ? Or dose it leak
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Check out the playlist for this bike. We have used this carb on many different combos kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmG2nnSQf5ukjZo
@ThisTall
@ThisTall 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t find this model for sale in Canada.
@Tikijoe101
@Tikijoe101 3 ай бұрын
Ok so I removed the external governor, installed my Mikuni carb... tried your soldering but that didn't work so I ordered a new one. One question... it has a choke but now no fuel cut off?
@rm1257
@rm1257 3 жыл бұрын
Did u have to rejet it
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, check out my other videos on this bike. We have done quite a few mods on this one.
@valentinsoto4146
@valentinsoto4146 Жыл бұрын
My mini bike is the rt200 stock straight chain stock just govenor removed and tops out at 55
@MrMGutierrez84
@MrMGutierrez84 2 жыл бұрын
I did the mikuni swap and my bike wants to take off on its own. how do I adjust the idle?
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, check out this video .kzbin.info/www/bejne/g5-0p3yie71rnq8
@MrMGutierrez84
@MrMGutierrez84 2 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 you're awesome man thanks for the response. I live in California so I'm setting up two engines because our laws here suck.
@darrinbarnard6797
@darrinbarnard6797 3 жыл бұрын
What your opinion on the trailmaster mb200-2 is it a good bike
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Expensive, but a good bike. I like it. I might end up doing some videos on one
@terryhenry275
@terryhenry275 2 жыл бұрын
Where can I get replacement emissions tube for vm 22
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Here is a link. Thanks for watching! www.ebay.com/itm/124839200549
@crazzyj6633
@crazzyj6633 2 жыл бұрын
What size jets are in the carb
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
my jetting might be different than yours. I live at 3700 foot elevation. it has the factory pilot and a 115 main
@curtisbrown5254
@curtisbrown5254 3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your videos and viewer engagement. I tried that soldering trick on my cable and can't get it to stick well. I get it on there, let it cool and when I pull the throttle it comes off. Do you have any suggestions?
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Ya, you definitely want to get that thing to stick really good. Don't need that coming off while the engine is running. Use some paste flux on it and then let the iron sit on the cable tip until it gets really hot. That way some of the heat is in the cable and then apply the solder. That way it penetrates into cable as your applying the solder. . If you have a MIG welder or a flux core wire feed welder you can simply clamp the ground on the metal cable and then just tap the electrode on the cable really quick. It will leave an end on it. If you don't have that you can use a handheld propane torch to solder it on there too. just be careful not to overheat the cable. Sometimes it will get too hot for the solder. You could always just grab a proper length cable with an end already on it .
@curtisbrown5254
@curtisbrown5254 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 Thanks. I ordered a proper length cable with the end on it. Out of curiosity, would a ball of epoxy work too?
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
@@curtisbrown5254 Im not sure. I have never tried that. It has to be something that wont come off while the the engine is running or the engine might not be to happy.LOL
@Cmull56
@Cmull56 3 жыл бұрын
Can you please provide a link of where you got the carburetor, thanks.
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
No problem! There are two different links. One for the manifold and one for the carburetor. Here are the links www.ebay.com/itm/254708226585?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649 www.ebay.com/itm/184813872862?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
@1dhoule
@1dhoule 3 жыл бұрын
Where did you get the straight intake boot from where you bolt the carb to.? Cause the one that you showed to buy actually is a curved intake boot so that wouldn't work
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
@@1dhoule The manifold is in the description right below the carburetor link
@thestafford8582
@thestafford8582 3 жыл бұрын
What’s the bad of doing it
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
No bad for me.
@kevinholland4156
@kevinholland4156 2 жыл бұрын
Do you know what Mikuni carburetor I should get for my 79cc Predator?
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, check out the Micro bike playlist. Links for the carb is in the description of the videos. Thanks for watching ! kzbin.info/www/bejne/enqkgWykmLx4e80
@kevinholland4156
@kevinholland4156 2 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 Thank you
@paulortega2550
@paulortega2550 2 жыл бұрын
When you take off the braket on the governor gear you just leave the gear in there and remove later? Could that effect anything in the future?
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
It's best to take out the gear. Less stuff to go wrong. I did leave the gear in this engine just to see how it would hold up over the last year. There are a few videos on the channel of me taking out the gear. Here is one of them on a Predator 212 kzbin.info/www/bejne/o2nEgH-jqt-fe5o
@NeenertinsBBQ
@NeenertinsBBQ 2 жыл бұрын
What happens if you don’t take out the gears?!
@fourthwheel8787
@fourthwheel8787 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know if you already answered this question but, what size did the carburetor’s jet come in?
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
It had a 98 in it when I got it .
@Kcrucial45
@Kcrucial45 3 жыл бұрын
Is the Mikuni carburetor a 38mm or a 26mm
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
It's a VM22 Mikuni . It is a 26mm
@Kcrucial45
@Kcrucial45 3 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 ok thank you
@jovangomez
@jovangomez 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have a link to the carburetor?
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. here is the link for the carburetor and intake ...www.ebay.com/itm/254708226585 www.ebay.com/itm/184813872862
@bankrollalmighty40
@bankrollalmighty40 3 жыл бұрын
I have the ct200u-ex and whenever I turn it on the bike just starts going full throttle any suggestions on how to fix that?
@Black66
@Black66 3 жыл бұрын
If the twist grip itself isn't stuck back then Look where the cable goes into the linkage. There is a screw there that holds the cable housing onto the linkage. Also, make sure the cable itself didn't slip out of its fastener where it connects to the linkage. Makes sure all the springs are connected.
@bankrollalmighty40
@bankrollalmighty40 3 жыл бұрын
Ok thank you
@ryanilano2869
@ryanilano2869 2 жыл бұрын
Hey man I've got basically the same ct200u-ex setup and I'm having trouble with it stalling would you have any idea why?
@BrickzSTM
@BrickzSTM 3 жыл бұрын
Is there an alternative bike with similar specs and frame etc? I've been looking for one for several months. I can't buy this in Europe/Germany over the normal sites because they don't offer international shipping and I can't find it on Ebay or Amazon etc...
@Carey802
@Carey802 Жыл бұрын
Can you please tell me what the two pink tubes connect to? It seems you have them just dangling below the carb. Also, what about the tubing that connected to the exhaust?
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