Blackberry leaves the smartphone market (again): Some rambling thoughts on how we review gadgets...

[@antwanefort]

This video right here, just made 99% of all tech channels irrelevant to me. This is one of the very few channels that is legitimately telling the truth.

[@thecliffold5879]

"You're really not a tech fan, you're a brand fan!" I like that! Going to say that to the Apple fans!!

[@markbennett6658]

Clifton Honaker and the Samsung fans?!!

[@Oscar-xw7nt]

@@markbennett6658 nah Samsung fans are actually interested in what's inside their phone

[@Granturion]

..and the Huawei fans 🤦

[@Granturion]

ooscard If that would be true nobody would buy Exynos versions 😉

[@shawnwilliams7021]

ooscard Lol, says a defending brand fan

[@ordinarygamer1353]

I'm actually so sad:/ I was looking forward to a BlackBerry key3

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

I was really hoping that's what we were going to see at MWC... 😥

[@krishnamanchundiya]

Yes man, i wanted to experience the thrill but I couldn’t and can’t bc of the price....

[@ordinarygamer1353]

@@SomeGadgetGuy unfortunately I think we all know it was inevitable. Such a niche market to fill, and they just couldn't sustain it any longer. A damn shame but I had a feeling it was coming- just didn't want it to be real:/

[@fabio.brunori]

Ah, me too...

[@ossumopossum]

@@krishnamanchundiya import a special black edition with a sku that comes with 6gb ram. Entry level price, easy to replace components. The battery is glued in pretty well, but that is the hardest part of disassembly.

[@dakotadotson6392]

I still like BlackBerry I've always liked their phones

[@mamiferuD]

not enough to like them, you have to buy them to keep it alive. sad part is they are pretty expensive...

[@OGvybetv]

“You’re not a tech fan, you are a brand fan”. I love that statement!. Apple and Samsung fan boys on KZbin are killing the industry and they don’t even know it.

[@RyanLove06]

I actually just put a new screen in my Keyone this weekend, and I've got a new battery ready to go in, too. Popped my SIM in today and gonna run it as my daily for a while.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Love it! Repairing these gadgets is so empowering. Well done.

[@PHlophe]

hi, where did you get a new battery for the keyone, please. i need the references. i gave had mine for 3 years now and i love it

[@WayneBruce26]

Where did you get the new battery from?

[@hectorg.7282]

Fanboyism has taken over common sense ever since teenagers started getting phones.

[@ossumopossum]

When I was a teenager, BlackBerry was the smartphone to have. Ouch, that makes me feel old. It's been almost 15 years since I first had a BlackBerry and now, more than ever, I appreciate the unique features. I have had 'regular' smartphones for work, but my personal device will be a BlackBerry as long as I can make that happen.

[@themondegod4014]

@@ossumopossum don't worry blackberries were popular in 2011-2012 all my friends had one(I was like 10 or 11

[@darryllmcgee]

I am a Substitute Teacher. Therefore, I know exactly what you are talking about. Through my experiences, so many kids are arrogant and narcissistic with their love for iPhone and iOS.

[@FAT8893]

Don't forget paid influencers.

[@zain4019]

Darryl McGee Kids, especially teens, identify with certain groups to feel they belong and are welcome. Instead of calling the still very much children you teach narcissistic- which many, many are most certainly not- try empathizing with their desire to feel part of a bigger whole. It’s one of the strongest human desires, and comes from our past tribal mindset.

[@MisterWhatWhat]

When the Priv came out I always found myself swapping my sim card to it once or twice a week. I don't know why but I enjoyed the slide out keyboard. Sad news :(

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

It's so hard to give up that keyboard after I use it for a bit.

[@ossumopossum]

I had a issue with priv reading my SIM. I had to get a new one cut at a corporate store (att) for free. After the new SIM, I only had the thermal throttling issues when the battery was worn. Priv was sleek despite the chin.

[@guilhermealmeidacost]

I still use my priv as a daily driver and will peep using since now I know we will never get a priv2

[@KBoon]

@@SomeGadgetGuy Then don't give up on it. Your red KEY2 will still be serviceable for years to come. I have two KEY2 LE's and a KEYone Black, I ain't giving them up for no slab. Also check out the UniHertz Titan and F(x) Tec Pro 1

[@jacobdrj101]

It was a great device that got unlucky with that damn 808 crapdragon processor... If it had been a little earlier with the solid 805 or later with the 820, and a good biometric solution, it would be remembered much more fondly... Personally the only problem I have with my Priv is that 808 overheating and sucking away the battery life, along with that awful curved glass... The keyboard is great... The security updates were great... The camera was good enough for its era... It's materials were top notch... OH well... I'm sad now...

[@omegavariant]

Fantastic commentary! Thank you for that breath of honesty.

[@Kingjay814]

This is one of the truest tech statements and the insane thing is that it's almost exclusively on the mobile phone side of things. Smaller brands get bashed hard or are never reviewed fully. Take LG for example, the V-series is a multimedia monster that is effectively unmatched when it comes to audio performance. Every review talks about the basics...no one says anything about the things that make that series unique. Your basic Galaxy or iPhone will usually get the following, Day 1 first impression, Full Review after a week or two, then a "re-review" where they go back and look at it again. It's just insane to me how much attention the two main makers get all of the attention. Then someone else like LG or Motorola can make the EXACT SAME THING and it'll get bashed because it's the same price as if because you're a smaller company the device isn't worth the money.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Metrics matter. Like I said in the video, I used to think it was a bit more unconscious, but 2019, the smaller brand bashing felt deliberate.

[@sodica81]

Lagsumg allways buy his reviews and the disgusting and repulsive China brand Juawey.

[@19jc80]

Until people stop chasing the latest and greatest we will always have this problem. A phone company should focus on creating a good phone with double battery capacity and make it affordable. The next shift is going to be foldable phones. Everything that doesn't fold will be labeled as old and crappy. Just bought a refurbished LG V20 to replace my Galaxy S5. Paid $150 for it. Paid 1 penny for my S5 because I bought it when Amazon sold contract phones through Verizon. Not everyone needs the latest and greatest, but unfortunately we are a small group and our views won't bring in the ad revenue for reviewers.

[@Alpha_Orionis]

Yeah, LG is currently facing grave situation due to this kind of tech reviews. Almost every channel is taking a dig at LG. Looking at their financial situation, its seems LG will be out of smartphone business next year. I will really be sad if that happens. LG is like a underdog of smartphone world. Its happening with Sony also. Similar thing happened with HTC.

[@rinzvendra]

I still use the Blackberry Priv for my primary SIM card even tho i have the LG. Nothing can replace the feeling of physical keyboard on BB Priv.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Those keyboards are SO good...

[@robertclarkguitar]

I used to love my droid 2. I could type so fast on that thing. I'm getting older and sight not as good. The screen Keyboard I find I misspell by accidental touch so often and I've had decade of practice. Hahaha.

[@yediydeyah78]

I love this! It's good to see someone speaking some truth! I am glad that I follow a number of tech reviewers on YT to gain a broader perspective on tech devices.

[@ing.davidavila]

Could have not said it better myself. This the most honest and thruthfull video I've see in a long time. Thank you very much Juanillo. This is why I'm a fan of your content

[@garysmith1477]

Your journalism skills surpass anything else I’ve seen or heard on KZbin. You won another subscriber.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

👍

[@badiyee]

Reading comments around (not only in this channel) seems to reinforce an idea / theory that I view; that no matter what BlackBerry does, there would be people who would pooh-pooh it with quotes such as "they didn't innovate" (which is not true), and if say, Apple, or Samsung pushes out "something" that is just a minor upgrade, it gets hailed as if it was a holy tier Hail Mary pass (American football analogy) of some sort, even if the same minor upgrade was already present in any other competing products. You hit the nail on this. Too many brand loyalists who would just rather bury their head like ostriches rather than to really examine a product for its merits and demerits, and then they'll go spewing vile bile the moment an association to a brand they aren't associated with.

[@samueltan2148]

Only if I'm rich enough to collect all of the underdog phones...

[@mi2-c035]

I owned an HTC One M7 as my primary and only device, despite HTC was always criticized for not being "as cool" as Samsung and Apple (even though HTC brought so many standards in this industry that weren't a thing a before) or as cheap as the chinese manufacturers, I loved that phone so much and it breaks my heart HTC is about the face the same destiny as Blackberry. It's not true that only Apple, Samsung, Huawei,... make good phones. You can have an amazing experience buying smartphones from less popular brands.

[@adwaitsharma6915]

I agree, one needs to look no further than mkbhd's review of yhr htc u ultra

[@samueltan2148]

@@mi2-c035 I would disagree with Samsung/Apple being more"cool" though. Cuz I still remember my friend and I who owned an M7 and Xperia Z1 respectively being so proud of our purchase decisions back in Secondary school since those two brands were being known for producing "cool phones" (especially with the BeatsAudio and Walkman features). Missing those days...

[@mi2-c035]

@@samueltan2148 I remember being a little annoyed cause even the year after most reviews would have still recommended the Galaxy S5 over the M8 or the Xperia Z3 (also a fantastic phone), despite those years Samsung to me, was a bit behind on smartphones: UI was very laggy and bloated (old touchwiz), cheap plastic build, ugly design, it had that weird finger print sensor that required the swipe, a solution that aged so bad,... But they were killing it with marketing and that's what made the difference basically.

[@samueltan2148]

@@mi2-c035 Well, most reviewers were and still are just making contents that their audience want to watch and also trying to say things that the audience only want to listen.

[@omniken66]

I'm not a fan of Apple, Samsung, or LG so I guess i'm missing out on 80% of the excitement.....Over the last 5 or so years I tend to look more for what serves my needs and not what makes me fit in.....$800 extra to have a logo on the back on my device is ludicrous!

[@krishnamanchundiya]

Ohh man, ur soo true, every other youtuber is really a brand fan not a tech fan, nowadays nobody cares about true tech, they only care to get either biased or to get some cash outta utube..... well, and everything u said is seriously true.... well u deserve more people who should know ur beautiful and reality mind.....

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Seems to be a trend. I hope we can adjust that trend.

[@krishnamanchundiya]

JuanBagnell actually people won’t accept the truths the best thing in our life is to just see our own way, its like, we can keep our doors to be opened but shouldn’t advertise because this trend is an addictive cancer which people love to have and if we stop it will make us sad due to people....

[@BWOne]

We've been talking about this back on the live stream days of this going on and I think we've seen it come ahead in 2020 and will lead into 2021. Most of the fun has been taken out of tech in favor of multiple videos about the same guaranteed proven brand. If you step outside of it the people just simply don't watch it. It's not all the tech communities' fault though (We're still the larger percentage of the issue) But with KZbin Algorithm/A.I which follows the trends of what viewers watch it became niche down into a particular genre of tech is what works on KZbin. Back when there weren't too many KZbin Tech channels, you could do a general tech channel with a few different topics in mind and see success but now with so many out people seem to like things niched down and dedicated with general tech only allowed on the massive established already. It's sort of followed the path of how TV networks worked. At one point you had a handful of channels that did general content and had something for everyone with being better in one thing over the other but could spread it out. Then cable came along and there are 100s of specialized channels that focus on one thing so unless you were one of the big 4 you had to specialize and that still hold trust with the shift to streaming and apps. I think its just how we like things as a society even though it's not the most effective or efficient way to go about it.

[@hoppysport2872]

Right-on, Juan! I was a Blackberry person from 2005-2011. That keyboard was perfect. Have switch between Android and iOS ever since. I've stayed with Android because of the haptic feedback used by the keyboard. the iPhone doesn't have that. My current LG G8 has the most incredible haptic engine, giving me a near Blackberry experience. I bought the LG G8 last April for $309 from T-Mobile after I added a much-needed line of service. It every bit the phone any Samsung is...and more. But few reviewers give it the time of day...with many mocking its Hand ID technology. None mention the Hi-Fi DAC, which actually makes music sound like music. I've had the G8 for almost a year, and it's been my favorite smartphone ever..and that's included Samsung and iOS devices. Congrats to Juan for honest reporting.

[@lovepotionsinc]

This is a very important take on the issue. My dad keeps telling me to replace my Blackberry Passport and I keep telling him no even though the camera broke after it dropped on the floor. Since my very first phone, I don't think I've ever bought a mainstream, flagship phone in my life. I've been tempted once or twice just for a few hardware features but all the nonsense about the Android vs iOS or Samsung vs Apple is just a huge turn off. Then I realised Blackberry was still making phones. I've never used a Blackberry and in Asia, Blackberry phones are a rarity, but I immediately got a Passport based on the reviews even though it was already out on the market for a year at least. Hands down, probably my favourite phone ever.

[@FAT8893]

That's a shame, I want to see a new successor to BlackBerry 10 even though I never have the chance to try that mobile OS to date.

[@rogerhudson9732]

I still use my 8800 every day for calls and texts, still working after 14 years( bought some batteries on ebay).

[@zenhypnotic]

Was initially only half listening to this ... but stopped and replayed ... insightful and more honest segment I’ve not heard in a long time. Thank you.

[@im4ch3t3dimachete5]

That was deep ;) and so true. I almost feel guilty using my 11 but there is really no competition in terms of hardware software and support for many many years....

[@JoeyTeckno]

Excellent video Juan. I’ll keep this in mind when choosing which devices to review and HOW to script those reviews.

[@wellingtonwhite2546]

So sad to see them go! I love BlackBerry have a KEY2 phone and love it

[@kshtjsxn9]

Wow! I thought this was going to be around Blackberry. But this video dwelled deep into the problems (mindsets) at hand. Damn 🙀, Juan!! Word.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

I mean, it still was KINDA bout BB... 😉

[@IrfanShaikh-ld3mf]

I think only TCL is stopping manufacturing Blackberry phones. They still can start manufacturing themselves again.

[@razorr527]

I'm a tech fan. I like all phones. I just can't buy them all .😄👍

[@Camachosky]

Nice!

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Too many toys, not enough time, not NEARLY enough cash...

[@reynerl5830]

That last part is such a heart felt, my heart goes to those smaller companies trying to make products distinctively unique to stand out without too much sacrifices. Thank you for the equal love to all our underdogs, and by showing us options outside the norm of complacent top companies.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

It's a real bummer. What we should care about most is healthy competition.

[@brianhutchinson6938]

This needs to trend on KZbin. Your average consumer doesn't understand tech so he is speaking facts. More people need to see this so they can stop and think about why they're buying a phone.

[@SpardasTechReviews]

I always wanted to get the key2 at least But the camera doesn't properly expose me when I'm behind a tree with the sun shining through it however could I use it? In all seriousness I'll definitely get one after market because blackberry was my first Smartphone experience. Hopefully someday they can make another comeback that spans more than a few phones

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Maybe another licensing deal but then BB would be starting from scratch again.

[@Gary0557]

I had a BlackBerry Curve back in the day. One of the best phones I’ve ever had.

[@cameronlovesevolve]

Gary Chapman those things were tough as nails. Especially the track pad versions

[@Gary0557]

Cameron D.F Chisholm virtually unbreakable, unlike the glass backed phones of today.

[@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080]

Awesome commentary! Best tech video I've ever seen!

[@knightmayre]

Very good video, and wise word indeed

[@drimranhaq]

Hi Juan - have you had that area of pigmentation on your left sclera (white bit of the eye) looked at?

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Yup. Happened after a bad car accident. Get it checked out once a year. All good so far.

[@P3lusio]

Blackberry problem is price only. I like phisical keyboard but i need something like priv

[@user-jc2ez6ig5z]

Agree about there not being diverse designs.

[@Boost34]

Love your honesty. Love that you called out exactly what has been going on. Much respect as usual!

[@nicknorthcutt7680]

You're one of the only tech creators here who REALLY cares about the heart of technology and competition... no other creator is as down to earth about tech who cares about consumers as much as you do man.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

A FEW of us out there, but the KZbin algorithm certainly isn't helping us out.

[@user-zr4wh3lh5v]

I wonder will the price come down to get rid of old stock?

[@AImraan19]

KZbin was BRUTAL on xperia Z5 premium. Praising galaxy note 5 like anything but still after all these years whenever I take out my xperia onlooker always ask me "What phone is That?" "Sony still makes phone?" .Using it since mid of 2016 , no issues. And you don't have to buy a new phone whenever a new version OS comes out.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Note 5 was such a strange turning point for me. I LOVED LOVED the Note 4 and Alpha. The Note 5 just felt like several steps backwards. I tried to keep up my enthusiasm for a "bold new design", but it was the first time I got a new phone as a reviewer which did NOT feel like an upgrade over the older version.

[@danfrancisco6991]

Great video. Thanks for being the voice of reason in the tech space. You hit it right on the head with the tech vs brand narrative.

[@NealzOfficial]

Companies like Blackberry, HTC & LG deserve to get shut down cause they continue to provide a sub-par experience & keep asking for almost the same amount of money as Samsung & Apple. Here in southeast Asia brands like Xiaomi, Realme, Oneplus they aren't on the same level as Samsung flagships but they don't ask for that kinda money as well.

[@mohamedsaqr5660]

Root for the underdogs !

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

👍

[@thomasmcginnis7526]

Well BB is dead now. Save what we can. LG!!!!

[@monurajput5608]

Thank you for always posting Decent reviews of Keyone and key2, Juan bagnell. But still, I'd like to upgrade to a key2 from my keyone, if key2 has a better Audio Dac for music listening via headphones /earphones?

[@72chevelle530ss]

I think you hit the nail on the head, Juan. I'm typing this on my Key2, and it's been an awesome device. I have had a lot of positive comments about it from people, and genuine curiosity as to how this phone exists and why they don't know about it. It's a damn shame that we won't be getting another Key device, as my Key 2 fits my needs perfectly.

[@conheo4]

I sold my Blackberry Keytwo Silver Edition, the mid range specs was just not good enough for me anymore. The processor was to slow for me. The keyboard keys needed refinement as the spacebar key was giving me issues with typing and the fingerprint sensor needed help to. I was hoping to see a Keythree with a better processor and keyboard.

[@conheo4]

Also the three navigation buttons really needed to go it took wasted space on the screen real estate.

[@buhta86]

That's why when the Essential PH1 came out, despite the negative reviews, I decided to buy it instead of the samsungs or other big names. I still use it and it is going strong. Can't be happier. Always been an LG phone and already had 4. Will always choose the underdog.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

A great example of a company really trying to court geeks, ahead of the curve in so many areas, and then relegated to "not good enough, wait for gen 3" for a good chunk of reviews. Then Andy Rubin too, but still...

[@ghylarson6359]

@@SomeGadgetGuy I came here to comment about the PH1 as well, and you are so right about the reviews. I bought one as a backup phone when they dropped the price and it was an impressive device, not perfect but I felt like it was worth it's original asking price. The build quality to this day is unsurpassed IMHO. I watched a popular reviewer a couple years ago claim that the Samsung Galaxy S Active "should not even exist", the arrogance! I wasn't really interested in the phone, curious, but still. I've narrowed my tech review channels down to objective reviewers such as yourself, good job sir and I appreciate the hard work you put in to the channel, wish you much success!

[@ghylarson6359]

@@franklingoodwin True, camera wasn't great, the updates came pretty quickly but the damage was done. There were no carriers offering the phone either. I'm curious to know how many units they would liked to have sold, to consider a PH2.

[@buhta86]

@@ghylarson6359 The PH2 will be far from standard, will see how it comes out. The bad camera was improved and off course you could always install the gcam. I didn't care much about the camera. I have a DSLR for that purpose, but I do see why people see the camera as a deal-breaker. However, almost nobody gave the phone a fair chance and objective review. Instead of recommending or not a phone, try to encourage smaller manufacturers to innovate and improve. Otherwise we will all end up using only 2 brands, which will be the saddest day.

[@banana_rat96]

Damn, back when I was young, the rich kids I knew had Blackberry phones, and they flexed with it.

[@IbrahimNameer]

Watching on BlackBerry keyone. :(

[@monurajput5608]

Same :( but hey, the battery still gives me over 8 hours SOT

[@raphaelfrancis4509]

This is why I like you, Juan. Your passion for tech is way greater than the $$$. Thank you!

[@CHGadgetz]

Love this! 💪🏼

[@Ketel.Binkie]

I was at a giant retail store in electonics the other day, and the seller talked the (not so familiar with phones) customer into a Samsung phone rather than one of the other brands like LG, Sony, Nokia, Motorola, Huawei or even Oppo. It's how it works, a person goes to the store, wants a phone and leaves with either a Samsung or an Apple. And the latter one is not to eat. BlackBerry also wasn't a phone for sellers in retail stores to sell, nor it got the public's attention from marketing like ads, billboards or the likes. It's no surprise they stopped the collaboration on BB phones, there wasn't a new BlackBerry phone released in 1,5 years already.

[@MrPixel-ch7vm]

Great video for Blackberry! Respect!

[@apexed2446]

I genuinely hope you double or quadruple your sub count. I'm the moderator at r/sonyxperia and I shamelessly plug ur channel all the time. We need more people understanding why competition is so important.

[@jimjones3287]

That gorgeous Xperia 1 got next to no coverage on KZbin tech channels

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Thank you so much for that! I'll try to pop in the sub more frequently!

[@apexed2446]

@@SomeGadgetGuy good to hear! See you there!

[@benjmiester]

Man that's a real bummer. It's always a shame to see such a big player bite the dust. Especially so when they didn't deserve it. Just victims of terrible tech timing, like so many other greats.

[@michaelewert9038]

I‘ve never tried a Droidberry. BB OS10 was amazing in terms of usability. Sad that they stopped development.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

No joke. My passport is still a snappy performer today.

[@moranmono]

In my country the smartphone market is so thin, that I don't get to see many of the brands that are available in the USA or Europe

[@gerarddonohoe5806]

2nd time I've watched this video in between the lew later video, the difference between these guys is amazing, rather than smirking over the (possible) death off blackberry, this reviewer gives a heartfelt & honest view of a sad occasion, I've used blackberry for a long time and I really hope there is some life still for a pkb phone with Blackberry's name on it.. Thank you for this video.

[@cosmovalentino1394]

Thank you for keeping it real. I'm now a subscriber and am looking forward to your next YouTubing thoughts and stuff like that 👍😅🥰

[@JEDEYEZBIZNIZ]

More and more i am realizing Juan Bagnell is the most intelligent tec reviewer on KZbin. Honestly, thank you!

[@wimi017]

I hate that i dont have many friends who speaks english so I can share this !! so much valuable video !!!! way to go, I love this, we need more info and points of view like this

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

🙂👍

[@axllebeer]

This video likely will not get the views and the traffic that it deserves but I'm with you here all the way. This is an interesting conversation that I think needs to be further discussed. This topic sounds like a good start to a podcast that I would personally love to hear. As always, ( but rarely stated my myself), I very much appreciate your insight. You make some very compelling arguments that should not be dismissed.

[@christianchristian2095]

that's a good point...Can you help me out pls.? i need your opinion on something. i am drawn to the design and notch free look of the Realme X. are you familiar with this phone? i have an LG G7 THINQ and i wanted to trade it with someone who has the Realme X. what is your opinion in regards with it? appreciate your input. thanks in advance

[@doobedi]

Again,gadgetguy is the AWESOME REVIEWER!!

[@jtec99]

I like Juan B better

[@Witcherworks]

Now I see why the Blackberry Key2 LE was only $260 bucks on Best Buy. I was this close to buying it but I liked the touch sensitivity of the keyboard. Well at least I didn't waste my money. Love your reviews, one of the last tech reviewers standing.

[@subsidiarybyages]

Nice video , We love BlackBerry !

[@darkerm76]

To Apple Fans "You're really not a tech fan, you're a brand fan!"

[@emmareporter]

wow my mom got a blackberry key 2 le only last year or so

[@emmareporter]

god now memories of me as a toddler messing about with her old blackberries that she wasn't using anymore are flashing through my head

[@wilfridsephiroth9213]

Dude, I don't even care all that much about new tech, but I'm a faithful subscriber of yours for two simple reasons 1) you seem to be one of the very few ones out there who cares about audio quality; 2) this kind of content. Keep it up.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

👍

[@user-zr4wh3lh5v]

We need as much competition as possible. Keeps things healthy, more choices, competitive prices and I speak as an HTC U11 user

[@cannotkazi]

Superb reasoning. Keep up the good work bud.

[@DenisX4C]

Much respect for the video and the candor in the intro. Thank you.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

👍

[@imac2612]

Juan, I think you make the most intelligent and objective commentary in your videos. Its almost weird when other reviewers are clearly influenced to push a certain narrative to the point where it becomes extremely obvious. But ah well if it gets the clicks it why not. Keep up the good work Juan!

[@machsta14]

Man that's such a powerful message. I for one was gutted with the news! Blackberry represented the differences in approach to delivering a unique experience. This means all phones will ultimately be the same offering over time innovation will slow :(

[@gilmoe73]

Great video. I'm watching this video on Key 2. BlackBerry has been a cool product for me.

[@KBoon]

Juan are you still using the KEY2 with your SIM as your primary communicator?

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Naw. Since then I've been bouncing around a bit for reviews. I did run it for my last short tip out to visit some family. It's such a great phone...

[@KBoon]

@@SomeGadgetGuy So basically it's still there as a typing communicator, just not as your primary. I used to own no less than 3 of these Red 2's but sold them all as I got tired of the red color. The only reason I had bought them was for the revised spacebar which feels tight and firm in pretty much all of the 2019 and later built units. Now rocking a black HK variant with a build date of 02/19/2020 (took me forever to find) and a KEYone Black Ed, K2 LE, Motion, and Priv as "backup" phones lol

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Yeah. I'll never part with my Priv, Key2, or Passport. They're going to be "museum" phones for me.

[@KBoon]

@@SomeGadgetGuy JuanBagnell Good move because they won't be losing any more value at this point. In brighter news for QWERTY fans, UniHertz is already starting to work on their next PKB device: facebook.com/groups/1304745876357921/permalink/1538273119671861/?app=fbl And the Astro Slide by Planet Computers (the guys behind the Planet Gemini and Cosmo Communicator)s currently in crowdfunding, and I think it already reached its goal www.indiegogo.com/projects/astro-slide-5g-transformer#/

[@JunkfoodJunction]

Juan, please correct the spelling in the description to BlackBerry from Blackberry.... thanks dude

[@fish9468]

We still have that landscape slider keyboard phone and the mi mix 3 with it's clicky slider. Hope is not all lost

[@CDPTN]

Thank you for saying it Juan! People who scream about one brand or the other, are not true tech fans, they are in fact brand fans. And that line of fans is very much limited to two brands! I love tech and I have used and am currently using various devices! I still have devices from years ago, that I love to fire up and play with, because they were innovative and unique, like my HTC Touch Pro 2 and my Palm Pre Plus. Not to mention my BB Classic and Keyone Black Edition!

[@NeilHawke]

Great video and bang on with the opinion. Really sad to see BB go out again as was seriously looking at the Key2 as my next device / excited for a Key3.

[@goodnightmoon]

here in the PH, i never saw someone using a bb smartphone

[@RichD2024]

Juan your rant is spot on. I am reminded me of all those Pixel 4 reviewers that just passingly mentioned its abysmal battery, while calling it the best Android phone you can buy. Are you kidding me? That thing is a lemon, d.o.a as far as I'm concerned, yet barely a word was made of that horrible, misguided decision by Google to put a paltry 2800 mah battery in a nearly $1000 phone.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

I really wanted to take that smaller Pixel for a spin. I really enjoyed my time on the 3a and 4XL. The BIGGEST issue IMO is Google should have given us macros. A red button, yellow button, and green button for battery life. Want GREAT battery, press the green button and it turns down the screen refresh, limits wakes from the radar, puts background services to sleep, and uses high performance cores less. The current argument for a Pixel SEEMS to be how easy it is to use, and how great the local assistant features are. Digging through the settings to maximize battery life SUCKS on the pixel currently and isn't easy even for someone like me. The battery capacity isn't really an issue if the consumer has better tools to balance how it's used. We're in the same ballpark as a smaller xperia or s10e. Those are all perfectly fine smaller daily drivers. Smaller phones aren't the same kind of multimedia machines as large screen devices.

[@bahman2272]

@@SomeGadgetGuy I just wand sub 5 inch android , and they none exist , so sad

[@Durplepurple94572]

the phone looks so much nicer when it's turned off but when it's turned on the black border and the laminating touch keys annoy me

[@SecondTake123]

But 8 years ago I loved that 😂

[@chadlaucomer3404]

Amen brotha! The brand fan thought process is very interesting to me. I think that that term rings true for a lot more "tech fans" then they would be willing to admit. RIP Blackberry, I hope we get to see you again!

[@janices2712]

Just found this video and I think it's probably the most intelligent commentary I've seen in a tech video.(Also loved your Key2 review, Juan). I'm a huge BB fan and this news was SO disappointing. I shouldn't have to apologize -and I won't!- for preferring tactile keyboards over virtual ones. I want to always have that option. And you are so right when you say the cellphone market is stagnant. It IS! Every brand is almost the same,. They are all anonymous plastic and glass rectangles. BB cellphones had class and the build quality was so much better than anything else. To that end, I have a question I'd like to put out: I have a BB Classic and love it, but I know I am missing out on Android OS stuff. I've been looking at the Key2 to be my new "daily phone". The prices of existing units will likely drop upon this news. Should I get one to be slightly more up-to-date, or am I just replacing one obsolete phone with another? All input appreciated!

[@KBoon]

The KEY2 isn't nearly as "obsolete" as the Classic. Making the switch will feel like going from a Corolla to a Porsche. I would totally do it. Also using a KEY2 as a primary device

[@Timoteo4]

I've been with BB for as long as I can remember. I had to put the Passport aside when I could no longer use certain apps that abandoned the BB operating system. I moved to Priv, of which I'm on my second one now. The one I'm using started acting twitchy, so I got a KeyOne to move to when it finally quits.

[@shawnhouse2152]

Well said, keep up the good work

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

👍

[@elijahcole1756]

Very intelligent analysis bro....i 🖤ved my blackberry!, and I hope the BlackBerry brand phones make a real comeback some day.

[@javiercastro1199]

This was a video that put it out there straight forward no BS truth is too many ppl just try to sway the public to purchase a brand. Ppl don't do enough research phone I'm on right now is from a company that had a good idea but poor follow through and really it has been a joy to have. I have now purchased a phone from a company I stated I would not buy from AGAIN. But after all the research and checking my boxes it's the product I want. Juan you are completely correct there are so many reviewers out there that ARE helping with the elimination of smaller companies

[@dustylamborghini]

Not often that it happens, but here we are... One video - and I am sold! And I now love you, forever! (Just as I love my BB Priv and LG G Flex 2, for instance). Consider me sub'd. Keep it coming!

[@AveryGram]

Last phone was a pixel. Currently using an iPhone X, my first iPhone. Being kind of underwhelmed I was actually very interested in what blackberry would release next..

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

I hate losing this partnership as an option.

[@zafrat5727]

You won my heart today. Thank you for saying what many tech boys are afraid to say. 🙂🤗.

[@ToothlessSnakeable]

I wanted the Key 2 but T Mobile never got it

[@Tyler_ThaTruth]

He’s right tho, big you tubers say they don’t have time to go back to certain devices but then complain about this time of year being slow for tech, but I don’t pay there bills so they do what they gotta do

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

Problem is, going back takes time. If you just make ANOTHER video, people kinda know you didn't really use the thing...

[@Tyler_ThaTruth]

JuanBagnell facts

[@selwynandrews9665]

Good points, well made. Another great video! Thanks, Juan (typing this on a Windows phone).

[@speedevil22]

I bought an unlocked Key2 in silver on release. Sold it to a friend about 9 months later. I loved the phone almost entirely, but I take a lot of pictures, and the camera was so subpar compared to competitors. I bought an S10e about three months ago. It's a great phone. The camera is awesome and the screen is vibrant and beautiful. But it's just not the same haha. I'm missing that keyboard, and my easily generated app clones for multiple accounts. I'm missing that two day battery life and scrolling down on news articles using the keyboard. And most of all, I'm missing one of the best fingerprint sensors I've ever used... hidden in the freaking spacebar.

[@brianabare7515]

I don't think the phones are so much stale as mature. What kind of innovation are you expecting? Pretty damn happy with my LG 8 btw, but will be buying the next one when it comes out.

[@Gabilleta]

That's what frustrates me the most about this space. We say we want competition but we chastise the smaller players because it's not like the popular ones but cheaper. We want companies to innovate but we only feed the popular brands. The conversation has gotten so stale that it's hard to talk to someone about a different manufacturer and not hear "Is it like -insert popular brand here-?". We say we are tech enthusiasts but the reality is most of us aren't. At the end of the day, it's sad to see another company go.

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

"I want competition but only if it looks EXACTLY like what I'm comfortable using, but then why would I buy the competition because they're just copycats."

[@SweetNacho]

Great video, I really hope your Channel grows a lot. Lots of truth spoken here, Legit really sad because I was hoping to get the Key3 if it came out. Something like a remodeled Priv would have been my dream smartphone

[@SomeGadgetGuy]

I was disappointed too. The Key2 was a solid improvement over the Key1. A key 3 with an sd7xx and a handful of refinements would have been awesome.