BLACKSMITHING WEAPONS MAIN HAND ONLY?! IS BS STILL BIS?! - TBC CLASSIC

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[@TheUnknownOtaku]

PvP arena weapons idea is looking better and better each release of information :D

[@ace052330]

Did this stay true? Does haste potions not stack with Dragonstrike? Currently using Prince Axe with Netherbane in off hand. Need one more for main hand. But I do have 5 nether vortex and I know the BS axe is better but I’m not re-doing all that bullshit. So was gonna upgrade my Dragonmaw to Dragonstrike since I have the mace from KT for off hand but I didn’t know that the haste pots didn’t stack with it. What about DST does that not stack as well?

[@Holderhek]

Info has been updated several times since this video. Check out the multi phase bis video.

[@anti6868]

Can anyone recommend ENH shaman PvP guide ?

[@athanasiosdemertzis8847]

The visual representations had me wheezing. Not gonna lie. As for the "findings": - IF you are an Orc, Axesmith MH Weapon paired with the PvP Axe Off-Hand seems enticing right about now. - I hear thunder crackling in the distance. Oh yeah, Elemental spec. Only 5% Spell Hit required alongside some greens and you gucci for Heroics. There is also Totem of Wrath in the mix to have you as a staple in the caster group. Noooo, do NOT tempt me with those caster synergy on that group. . . - Last, but not least, the oldie but goodie healer. Earth Shield something, put down a totem or two, Chain Heal and you gucci!

[@beersmurff]

Well it will change to One-hand in BT phase as in vanilla, I am sure. So as Tauren Enhanc i'm deffo still going for it. Albeit, the Arena or other options are closer now if you are on a server where mats are uber expensive.

[@theviper6684]

Is orc an absolute must? i love orcs taurens and trolls and i was a orc in vanilla and i kind of want to switch it up.

[@Holderhek]

It's not. Troll is highly competitive. Tauren not so much but they are the bis for style.

[@PippTheKid]

now if you wer a tauren would u still make the hammers or axe? that is of course if these are the changes wer going into tbc with.

[@Holderhek]

If I was anybody but an orc I would still probably make the hammers.

[@henshire]

the important questiojn is, im letherworking/Enginieren i have to drop some of this jobs to lost Googles epics+drum+chest etc... Vs 1hammer or axe ? bs is super expensive... im orc... what do u think to change jobs just for 1 weapon.. ? by Henshire ;)

[@Holderhek]

I think if you're going to drop anything drop blacksmithing. You can get weapons from other sources. I'm going blacksmithing because it's going to help in arena. That's it.

[@TheSP4RH4WK]

yeah, Im REALLLY hoping thats just a beta thing.....

[@JasperHowland]

Did the change to the mace proc stick? Should I go axes?

[@Holderhek]

Orcs should probably go axes for the most consistent DPS. Everyone else maces.

[@JasperHowland]

@@Holderhek Thanks bro

[@overload1439]

Dragonmaw still says it's a "main hand" at the weaponsmith trainer...does this change at TBC launch to be able to dual wield or?

[@Holderhek]

Blacksmithing weapons are main hand now. They will stay main hand until phase 3.

[@overload1439]

@@Holderhek Thank you!

[@nickolasdparks1889]

how much is tauren than orc in tbc for enchance?

[@Holderhek]

Orc is the best closely followed by troll. Tauren is last but the overall difference isn't much.

[@ArenaHealer]

I saw some 2h TBC shaman PVP videos, and he WRECKED people at 70 in BGs. And I define wrecked: 100% to 0% in a global with Windfury proc... but it was private server. I don't know how accurate Warmane is to Blizz.

[@hvdhvd-zt3js]

I know beavis pvp videos are legit eu warmane.

[@Holderhek]

2h still demolishes people it's just less reliable.

[@ArenaHealer]

@@Holderhek 60% of the time, it works every time

[@AnimeFan4815]

I don't know how endgame will be but leveling my B11 Pala I'm jealous of the ppl that lvl with juweliercrafting cuz as a blacksmith I get almost nothing useful that isn't trumped by dungeonloot before I can even craft it

[@hvdhvd-zt3js]

Time to go elemental 1k dps in greens.elemental is one of the least gear dependant specs in tbc next to bm hunter meaning you don't need much gear to destroy people as ele What's more fun then windfury lightning bolts and insta windfury chain lightning?

[@user-xj9uq9mv3l]

I want to see the passage of naxxramas with duals weapons from the shaman on prepatch

[@Holderhek]

SAME

[@GTFOIMAO]

We gonna get hwl axes soon :D get your marks ready for trade in :D

[@TheUnknownOtaku]

The discussion around drums is dumb. If your guild did not require you to go engineering for Classic, then it isn't gonna do that for TBC. Eng in classic has a much bigger affect than TBC LW. It's only the top of the top will deal with that. The dmg increase is like 3 seconds every minute if you have every group with a 100% up time.

[@Holderhek]

big fkn true

[@purepump]

LW for the gear though seems hella nice.

[@user-se3kb4lg6w]

whats its mean 1 ppm vs 0.8 ppm? i dont undestend

[@Holderhek]

The average time the weapon effect activates. Once per minute vs 0.8 times per minute. 1ppm is already quite low so anything lower than that is petty awful.

[@TheAlPaca02]

Need another update which also takes the recent flurry and weapon (de) sync findings into account. Imo, BS is looking less and less attractive. Esp considering the cost of the maces.

[@Holderhek]

Yeah I'm going to go axes. Off hand an Arena axe.

[@user-xj9uq9mv3l]

How long does the windfury cooldown last in vanilla? And in burning crused?

[@Holderhek]

no CD in vanilla. 3 sec in TBC.

[@Keilink]

If the true issue is that they don't want people to have 2 BS weapons I just hope they make these *unique* instead of *Main-hand* . I was planning on going BS for the Fireguard as an off-hand with my rogue, this is a little annoying to see that change :T

[@Holderhek]

If they are going for replication of roll out that would be the way to go.

[@ZomgRAWR93]

"Main hand only-" Everyone: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

[@tinyskeletonman8882]

as an enhance shaman is it okay to take leather items from rogues?

[@Holderhek]

since our mail gear is trash yes. that's what dkp is for

[@tinyskeletonman8882]

@@Holderhek cool cool

[@Biqnutz]

what would urecommend going 4 as an orc arms warrior

[@Holderhek]

BS maces so you can craft stormherald for PvP. If you aren't going to PVP, axes.

[@Biqnutz]

Thank you brother

[@neonhvit]

I rly want the weps to stay MH, im currently engi/mining and i rly dont want to ditch mining for BS 🤣

[@MRkriegs]

U could go mining on like a gold farming alt but yeah I get ur point

[@scrubzzy]

Aren't goggles not in p1 as well?

[@MRkriegs]

@@scrubzzy yes they p2

[@drschonify]

So the take away from Holderhek is swap to Elemental.

[@Holderhek]

now now now let's not be too hasty

[@hypurettv7469]

@@Holderhek u know ur boy is going ele :P

[@gerrieherwijnen1088]

Never!! 😅🤣

[@user-se3kb4lg6w]

hello for orc better way craft Axe - ? You sure?

[@Holderhek]

Without both hammers yes I'm fairly positive.

[@nunyabizness3866]

Past results say that you jump on this shit and hound them about it or learn to love the suck. Blizzard isn’t blizzard anymore, remember.

[@Holderhek]

For sure. I'm just over every little change causing the entire community to piss/fart/shit/cry collectively.

[@gerrieherwijnen1088]

😁😁😁🔥🔥

[@hepkus]

Oh shi-

[@Holderhek]

SPEEEED.

[@Dapeanut88]

True. Hopefully this might just be a test. Blizzard does have a reputation for making things worse and less fun, with all of their games, not just wow. Haha.

[@megamanx627]

This is why I don't like progressive item a zation this very reason Just make him one handed there's no reason to make these weapons may have it's stupid

[@zomgzomg123]

I’m playing fury warrior and the weapons are all i got going for me since i dont bring utility to the raids. Without my hammers i will be even more useless trash to my guildies :(

[@full_metal2452]

Looks like Resto Shaman will be BiS in TBC classic also Kekw

[@gevopapikian1711]

Melee already gets shit on in TBC. So blizzard decides to shit on it more time to go warlock

[@ArenaHealer]

Blizz used to do this "bad fixes" so that way down the line when they "balance" xyz, players would buy boosts, racial swaps, faction swaps, etc. ... makes you wonder how much will be in the cash shop mid-TBC classic.

[@hvdhvd-zt3js]

Time to go ele 1k dps In greens.

[@megamanx627]

Right no joke Queen even if they make the weapons one hand it's not like enhancement shamans And Milly as a whole is going to jump you know there's no reason to make it main hand.

[@jarboy71]

"Thats like, literally how it was at the beginning of TBC" Think you'll find they were Unique not Main Hand Only there buddo.

[@Holderhek]

thanks for the clarification bub

[@stevebob2941]

A foolish argument "its beta so just dont say anything its probably a mistake" so basically dont report bugs or anything because blizzard just put it in as a mistake an already knows about it dont report bugs or issues guys just have fun.

[@Holderhek]

I never said don't say anything and don't report it I said stop crying about it.

[@stevebob2941]

1:28 you say it could just be blizzard testing stuff out by that logic dont report any perceived bug because it could just be blizzard "testing stuff out". whats the difference between crying about it and reporting it?

[@Holderhek]

Reporting a bug using the report a bug feature while talking about it in a concise and deliberate way vs. "ARGHHHH THEY ARE RUINING THE GAME MELEE SUCKS ARGHHHH THIS GAME IS BAD WOW IS BAD ARGHHHH!"

[@stevebob2941]

@@Holderhek so they have to use that exact wording to be crying got it, so noone can ever talk about bugs outside of hitting the report bug button or else its crying? which one?

[@Holderhek]

I appreciate you trying to start a fight with me on the internet. It makes me feel important. Thank you. I would like people to use wording that showcases they are in fact adults and not that the world is ending when literally anything is changed at any time in this game.