$0 vs $5,000 Video Game

[@Blackthornprod]

Should we make a game dev competition with all 6 FINALISTS from the first 3 game dev competitions? The Clash of Titans. Also, here's a free game dev course if you also want to make video games: www.gamedevrocket.com/launchpad

[@HittingTheLean]

Yes you should

[@JustForDiscord-g2i]

absolutely

[@sparklingwater925]

Maybe the 6 first eliminated instead.

[@Betisebox33]

No you should... you must !

[@Wolfdeholycow]

100%

[@bennyheppner4589]

Would love to see this format, but in pairs or teams, it would be refreshing to see how two developers work together to compete to make a game with no previous experience together🍎

[@JakeOfIL]

That sounds so cool!

[@JosephSullivan-ly3wk]

That'd be really cool!!

[@Axxquix]

dude, thats actually so smart lmao

[@gorelex64]

I second that ✊

[@lumi-lumi-lumi]

Idk, some pairs would be OP like AIA + DualWielded

[@zoteling2817]

Thanks for the opportunity! I had a great time participating and seeing what everyone else made! Gun Frog will be released very soon! 🐸

[@ivanzablah3157]

You are a great dev

[@Gerwald_Lanzer]

your game looks so fun, I'm so excited to try it

[@Wolfdeholycow]

You are my actuall goat

[@oliviachoir]

king

[@billyboy3012]

MAKE THE TRAIN MOVE!!!

[@SpinglerSpongen]

"His game gave me very Hollow Knight feelings." Guy named after HK boss: "You don't say"

[@devilsblade2543]

"boss"

[@sirefirefly]

​@@devilsblade2543 Dream Zote is def a boss

[@muted_chat7353]

@@devilsblade2543 Zote IS the boss

[@mystery_exe]

You are all wrong because a Zoteling is actually a type of enemy from The eternal ordeal and the Zote dream fight.

[@acidrien]

And has a HK profile picture

[@GingerNingerish]

Thanks for having me on! You guys were one hell of a tough competition, everyone made some incredible stuff. 🙏

[@HolyNamed]

you did good

[@GingerNingerish]

​@@HolyNamed Thanks!

[@ewan_armstrong]

Really liked your one. Looked really polished

[@LighthoofDryden]

Was so great to see you in one of these-fantastic work man!

[@GingerNingerish]

​@@LighthoofDrydenWas just an honor to be here haha

[@slobbymonk]

Had a blast participating! So proud of what everyone was able to make in the time they had.🔥🔥 Can't wait to keep working on my game, thanks for inviting me!

[@crazyutumasasi]

I liked your game it was really cool

[@slobbymonk]

@@crazyutumasasi Thanks mate I really appreciate that!

[@HolyNamed]

randy the raccoon is such a good game, loved your vision!

[@MyIQisSchfifty5]

your game looks super fun

[@uiopgamer4647]

Tbh I think your game had more charm loved it

Joe Sullivan's game's simplicity and that 3D transition... DUDE ITS POPIN

[@Kattyinthehouse]

right?? I was so surprised when it didn't make it to the last round--it was absolutely stunning!

[@cardsfanboy]

I was pretty sure from the get go, that the frog game was going to be the winner, it took the theme, it created a unique look and created a world that could expand... having said that, the particle game was so well done in it's first iteration that it just feels like a fun game to load and and play for 10 or so minutes as a time killer, and requires almost no more refinement....At the same time, the amount of work the car game guy did in the third week is tremendous.... it almost feels like he put just enough effort to show he was trying for two weeks, and then realized he might actually win this thing, and went overboard on improving his game... this is not an insult or a compliment, it's pretty much how I would have approached it to be honest. but the fact that he turned it around is impressive on his ability.

[@Gugfdjokoyrrnnk9633]

In the first round, he established the basics of the game, including controls, environment, and player purpose. In the second round, he expanded it into an full open-world game with new character designs, a larger world, and a plot. Then, in the third round, he focused on polishing the entire game and add an ai. If you ask me, the guy was working his ass off.

[@KaiserTheDemon]

@@Gugfdjokoyrrnnk9633 This is how i feel as well. Its also my approach - get all the functioning parts functioning, then expand it. No point designing an open world if your character controller doesn't interact with anything properly

[@mattVmatt12]

​@@Gugfdjokoyrrnnk9633 I would definitely agree with you. I don't think he phoned it in at any point. It's not a lot of time to work, and he progressed at a very logical rate

[@bigfin20]

yeah it was pretty clear from the start

[@Tarroook]

Thanks for having me ! Was very fun participating with everyone 👍

[@macoustic3833]

…. Bruh

[@fullmanamusic]

@@macoustic3833 ???

[@TheDiamondMc88]

Gun frog genuinely looks fun

[@ThatDwag69]

imo the best one here

[@FaroqToty]

All look fun tho

[@NoobPlayMC]

If the Frog gram would be a 5-10 hr long game in terms of content it would legit have indie game of the year potential. Its implements its themes so well and you can iamgine so much more possibilites for it to develop. This creative thing is exactly what indie games are for, we dont need the low effort copies of succesful games a lot of devs make nowadays

[@ChocolateKsuh]

fax, reminds me of another crabs treasure in a way

[@lumi-lumi-lumi]

I think even 5 hours would be a stretch, I don’t really know what would keep the game interesting and fresh for that long. However, something like 2 hours with potential replayability seems perfect

[@erichdegurechaff9515]

@@lumi-lumi-lumi Different weapons, new levels that arent a swamp, some upgrade progression, a real story. Many games you repeat the exactly same thing, but the context and story carries the game, Red Dead for example.

[@lumi-lumi-lumi]

@@erichdegurechaff9515 it's not a fair comparison. The whole novelty here is the bizarre movement of the frog. And it's not gonna last for long. Unless you can figure out a new mechanic (which would feel equally as good) to spice up the gameplay, whatever you add to simply stretch the duration of the game would just make it feel stale and ubisofty.

[@crazygamers9499]

the style and mechanics remind me a lot of risk of rain, maybe could use roguelite upgrades

[@itskxmi]

I loved the 3D aspect of Joe Sullivan’s game, instead of keeping it generic he actually did something with the game and got punished for it

[@Basjuh1984]

100% agree - did not follow the critique there

[@bennettcox1857]

hard facts, i had no idea where the criticism was coming from. it sounded like the two particle idea was going to be another gameplay switch too, it would've been a nice little trilogy about momentum

[@violonic]

​@@bennettcox1857Right?? It captured momentum in the best way possible. It reminds me greatly of a relaxing beautiful game called Exo One. Something that's very simple, but so engaging. Also looked really good visually too, If he could've polished up the 3d part as like a big badass transition (maybe it's a power/ability to gain more points) with a huge music change for a min... Then bring it back to the beginning with the 2d. Nice fun loop

[@camcul6632]

I disagree. I felt like he did have something special with the base game and the 2D aspect. I think what the judges critiqued him on was within reason. Different style of blocks and a clear objective. It needed those things. He also could have incorporated the story idea he had into it with that initial base idea and the things the judges critiqued him for.

[@omous7770]

Yeah, I agree. SlobbyMonk’s game kept on being criticized for its core gameplay loop going stale, while Joe Sullivan’s game was criticized for not adding enough. Sullivan’s game did something unique with the dimension shift, while Slobby’s never improved on the core gameplay loop. I can’t speak for how fun either are, however I think Sullivan’s game would’ve been a better contender for the final. I think the judges might use a lot of visual elements to judge this, as one advantage Slobby’s game had was its stylization.

[@LighthoofDryden]

Oh dang, thanks for the Disinherited shoutout at the end!! You even got it recently enough that it has the new art and screenshots 😮 This was a tight contest, GREAT work to all these devs

[@zigzag1071]

The work you've done on the game after the competition is absolutely INSANE

[@LighthoofDryden]

@@zigzag1071 oh, thank you!! That means a lot!!

[@jaysolo8256]

Disinherited looks so goooood

[@pupnub]

@@jaysolo8256if they do that battle of the titans idea your going to win this one for sure

[@Peak.ccfrrT_T]

DISINHERITED IS TOO UNDERRATED MANNN

[@hwalnut7202]

9:22 the zipper sound bro 😭

[@crunchmonkey407]

i was looking for this

[@NulliosG]

“That’s a beautiful looking hole… 😏” *unzips*

[@Nudtanun]

@@crunchmonkey407 yas

[@xorangesongx]

Joe Sullivans game was such a vibe. I would play that all day.

[@JosephSullivan-ly3wk]

Thanks! My comment keeps getting removed, but Particle Accelerator is out now on Steam!!

[@First_last988]

same

[@Maddy-vc4wq]

It was snake xenxia

[@JosephSullivan-ly3wk]

Ay thank you! It’s actually out now 🎉

[@Golvas]

NO WAY ITS THE GUY!1!2! 🤯☝️

[@JGYT39]

Randy the racoon feels like the newest addition in Goat-Simulator type games, open world, whacky, and a blast with humor!

[@MalcomHeavy]

Right from the go, GunFrog was the most original and striking idea. Not to mention how it's really the only one that actually stuck with the momentum theme. The redt of the games felt like they confused momentum with movement and treated them like the same thing. GunFrog not only runs with momentum as the core for its gameplay, but it also feels like a game you can really master and have a blast with.

[@violonic]

I mean Joe's game was literally *just* momentum n movement. Reminded me of Exo one if you ever played it. Relaxing but yet engaging, always gotta keep the momentum up

[@bananadev]

Was super awesome participating! The quality of all the other contestant's stuff & what they made in a week blew me away 💪

[@CasperHøjslet]

What is the color of your toothbrush🪥🤔?

[@bananadev]

@@CasperHøjslet what do you mean?

[@dwmckenzie02]

Your voice does not match your face! Great Job though!

[@Nudtanun]

your shooting game with orange is great

[@Ausgrave]

Holy heck -- this was an amazing video! So glad y'all put all this together -- thank you! And thank GOD y'all did not split this up into a different video for each round -- the cliffhanger would have made me vomit, lol -- definitely appreciate that!

[@rionhunter]

Instead of elliminations, you should have a grand-prix styled scoring system, where people get points each round for how well they've done, and you don't have to eliminate contributors, with a prize for each placement.

[@t.x.]

this was such a great episode, all the devs absolutely popped off. I’m insanely impressed by all the creative concepts they made in such a short time during the first phase

[@alexgosher2702]

Always cheering everyone on here and thanks so much to the Blackthorn brother hosts for putting all of this together, they are a terrific team 🤩🤩

[@fiofana]

Gun Frog was definitely my favorite throughout the competition

[@smallbag123]

This new series is so good! You guys are really creative with your stuff haha

[@cookieboielcookieo2469]

These are my favourite types of videos because at the end we get some awesome games that we can actually play and that show great promise

[@RealNostalqia]

I need that particle accelerator gameeee

[@Psychimera]

Same.

[@JosephSullivan-ly3wk]

@@Psychimera Thank you so much! It's actually out right now👍

[@RealNostalqia]

@@JosephSullivan-ly3wk that game looks so satisfying man, great work! Gonna get it as soon as I'm home haha

[@Anima-bribe]

@@JosephSullivan-ly3wk Your idea of going into the 3th dimension was so unique and cool. But I agree with the judges there was so much more potential to expand on the already excisting gameplay with new blocks enemies. I would have loved to some kinda of mechanic like pac man where the points turn into blocks and blocks into points maybe based on music like when a beat drops idk your game just really inspired me.

[@cheesymcnuggets]

Zoteling had my full confidence the moment it was revealed that he was a participant. Seriously go play his already released game, it’s free on steam and is extremely fun and polished, my friends and i have spend entire nights just messing around in it, amazing developer. Sloppymonk also did incredible, i was rooting for him the entire time aswell, glad to see the game turn out so exciting. Mind blowing what some devs are able to get done in 3 weeks, i can’t even remotely compare

[@fluteflies]

I find that when out under shorter timed conditions people always create more content, but can only do it in a short period. It would be good to have a huge competition where loads of devs start out with maybe 1-2 weeks to create a game and then the twist is that they have a lot longer (multiple months) to compete and win a prize. Though it might conflict with their own games and probably wouldn’t happen

[@ultimate898989]

imho it would be smoother to split the prize money between first and second places (like 4k/1k or any other proportion), this takes 3 weeks of dev time with sleepless nights into account. At the end both are an appealing near-finished projects

[@AHandleWasAlreadyTaken]

That’s not how competitions work

[@ultimate898989]

@@AHandleWasAlreadyTaken there are no guidelines on prizes by global competition committee, it is entirely decided by party which holds the competition. i.e. olympic silver is awarded with cash prizes to athletes by their countries.

[@dudeweedlmao8519]

@@AHandleWasAlreadyTaken A lot of them work that way actually

[@AHandleWasAlreadyTaken]

@@dudeweedlmao8519 there are no prizes for second place

[@dudeweedlmao8519]

@@AHandleWasAlreadyTaken what is a silver medal then? Who gets it?

[@stevenbuck4090]

Love the idea of the proton/particle one. Hope to see it continued.

[@LighthoofDryden]

It’s out on Steam now! Particle Accelerator :)

[@kitsunemusicisfire]

Gun frog was absolutely insane, I can't wait to be able to play it when it comes out

[@RugbugRedfern]

Redmatch 2 mentioned?! Congrats to both finalists, both Gun Frog and Randy the Raccoon are insane for 3 weeks of work!

[@MrTotallyNormal]

you guys should get "Two Star" on this thing sometime. I'd love to see what he ends up making

[@revengearena4055]

He's too big for this

[@BurberB1ng]

They usually only contact unity developers for these things so I doubt it would happen

[@facelessanon]

They did feature Thomas Brush, someone who likes to invite Gavin "Two Star" Eisenbeisz to his podcast, but Thomas does use Unity Ngl I would love to see Gavin contribute to the 100 devs game tho

[@MrTotallyNormal]

Oh yeah didnt think about that​@@BurberB1ng

[@MrTotallyNormal]

​@revengearena4055 yeah but they've also had Lixian on this before who has like twice the subs that Two Star does

[@VaibhavShewale]

this type of competition also helps the devs who are stuck with no ideas on what to make

[@dahdumbguy]

Yall did joe sulivan dirty wtf

[@ilmaccherone6036]

this>>>devs without communicating

[@Not_Deb]

Slobbymonk's game personally looked the best to me! He created a whole 3D game in just a short period!!

[@daboi300]

19:12 HOLLOW PURPLE-

[@ProAshplayz]

Dude both the games were soooo goood. In the first 2 rounds i definitely found the GunFrog to be the better game but man slobymank really pushed his Game to the limit on the last round he added so much. At the end of the day I really loved both the trully heart breaking that there can only be 1 winner. ❤❤❤

[@walkieTalker]

Can't believe Risk of Rain 3 won! Joe Sullivans particle game looked epic

[@DatBlockyDude]

6:48 bro this guy always throws so bad 😭

[@allbeansedits]

I hope Zoteling can take gun frog further in the future, like adding a level where the water is acid or a level where there are no lily pads so you need to “bounce” on enimies using your gun.

[@goldfishmentality]

Gun frog goes unbelievably hard

[@RizingDeadShot]

I love that Joe Sullivan posted him game on steam still, easily my favorite game out of the bunch. I really hope to see him in future projects

[@LOSTWONDER]

Frog game dev is fire. Good game dev thinking

[@mish8753]

This is exactly how i imagined the results would be after the first round and i totally agree with all the judges decisions. Both the finalist games seemed really fun tho

[@jacksontimegaming]

I'm digging Gun Frog, Randy the Racoon which seems like Goat simulator mixed with wobbly life and the Particle Accelerator. Good job guys, great video

[@huntergrant2011]

I would like to see something similar to the 100 devs no communication but have a small team with no communication but all working simultaneously

[@Dracaryon_]

24:17 not the guy on the right lip syncing the script 😭😭

[@Dominodude55]

I'm not a game developers, but as I watched I had this idea for like a 2d game similar to linerider where you're trying to get a train from the through a bunch of level screens by placing three of a random selection of 2d track pieces. And like the challenge comes in the track bits having jumps and tricks and stuff. You get a score based on how many level screens your train survives through, and momentum is preserved from the end of track bit. The thing is it's primarily downhill, and there's no speed cap, so you could have some insane speeds.

[@wildlmao]

I like how this was entertaining without being in ur face yelling and stuff

[@LilRabbitXO]

I love that the only complaint for gun frog was “it wasn’t super easy, I hope they make it easier”

[@eddebrock]

Polarity shift had nothing to do with momentum. None of the elements had actual momentum incorporated.

[@dakshkhandelwal6424]

Its great how you have brought the field of game development to this big audience. Its so fun to watch their creative and thinking processes in the way they are ideating and implementing the stuff. Too good!

[@Aiden_and_Co]

frog game is peak

[@WIZ_LIZ]

boy i SURE hope that all the contestants got paid for their time and labor, with both making the games and editing the video for you :)

[@zack_whom]

Yeahhhhhhhh

[@covereye5731]

To be fair, someone still has to edit together all the segments including the judging with gameplay examples.

[@Zurpador164]

They agreed to do that, whatever thay are getting out of it seems to be enough

[@kierandotc]

It's a competition that they chose to join for the prize they also get a large audience to watch their work and will boost their subscribers and viewers

[@inmymargiela]

is their a history with them not paying people?

[@facelessanon]

I'd like to see 3 dev teams (each team consisting of two indie devs) compete in another competition in the future

[@MrDTH-zs7fd]

Dude the last 4 games were all so good. Can't imagine how hard it was to choose the finalists.

[@Hawishh]

This game is great, but there’s no way I would pay $5,000 to play it!

[@po1arz352]

JUSTICE FOR JOE SULLIVANS PARTICLE ACCELERATOR. SUCH A GREAT GAME AND THE COMMENTS CAN BACK ME UP

[@JosephSullivan-ly3wk]

Thank you so much! It's actually out right now on Steam! 🎺

[@po1arz352]

@@JosephSullivan-ly3wk gotchu man

[@ImmAaronn]

Joe was robbed. He deserved to be in the final. I think his game followed the theme the most. Sorry but the racoon car game was just an open world and had nothing to do with it. Joe Sullivans was the best imo! But the frog game was definitely up there too.

[@po1arz352]

@@ImmAaronn yeah wasn’t a big fan of the car game but it’s a nice concept. I just think joes game had more to offer especially with the potential he had if it made the finals. I hope he doesn’t stop updating

[@iwantagoodnameplease]

@@JosephSullivan-ly3wk I think you should have made the final. I also think you needed to add an actual particle accelerator, i.e. a big ring you enter and loop around to get ULTRA MOMENTUM before firing out.

[@thehobbesian]

The 2d version of Joe Sullivan's game was easily the best of the bunch. Should have turned it into a roguelite.

[@cinnastag]

the way I gasped when it turned 3D tho!

[@JosephSullivan-ly3wk]

Ayy thank you so much! 🎺

[@JosephSullivan-ly3wk]

@@cinnastag Haha that's very kind!!

[@marin5439]

It was so nice, would have loved to see more

[@calebdaniel5631]

@@JosephSullivan-ly3wkthe idea of the big bang particles… i wanna play it!

[@Shee2goth4me]

The randy raccoon game has so much potential

[@buoyantotter]

zoteling sweeped every stage of the challenge fr

[@JD-wv1yi]

just at the start of the video, out all the devs shown at the beginning bottom right has the "dev look", im rooting for him

[@BrockRocksGaming]

13:45 exactly the 4 I would have picked great judging

[@some_random_giraffe2806]

00:29 hit me with that trauma music

[@MHE202]

"Oh no! He had 2 kids" is brutal

[@xaius4348]

If the devs setup a bundle on steam of all the games we've seen made as part of this series so far. I will buy all of them.

[@NyGeL_Derey]

I'm honestly surprised no one has made a game about someone trying to escape Death

[@itsCatMeme37]

The moment I saw Gun Frog I called it. However, I will be buying Randy the Raccoon.

[@tomschlaiss5735]

Nice video and games / developers as always, cheers from Germany

[@johannesburstrom7314]

Should be a little prize for coming second😢 felt like it was so equal and yet slobbymonk doesn't win anything. Anyhow, great competition and video!👍

[@pterafier]

Literally the best content on youtube

[@PsychoticWolfe]

I really enjoy these! Please continue creating more. I am learning a lot

[@boxedincrab7050]

This is like the Hells Kitchen of game devs its amazing

[@kryptobash9728]

I really am impressed by the runner up's improvement but that frog game was dope!

[@stonekite4482]

This is my favorite format from you guys!

[@trevorbishop4581]

Particle Accelerator was the best one. It was beautiful

[@JosephSullivan-ly3wk]

Thank you! It's out on Steam now! 😄

[@charliedoherty7166]

Insulting gun frog in the thumbnail, that frog is cute and the concept is interesting

[@justamanofculture12]

I see no insult though

[@curious8692]

Dual uploaded yesterday and you guys today we eating good this month

[@light2937]

Man these are the best games made in this channel , they are well polished and I loved all of them!

[@Kean_vT]

You should upload these in three videos, it would build some hype

[@egorthehawk4824]

Man that must be really hard to judge! Those games were all very different. I really like gingers game, thought it was pretty unique and different

[@KnightDrinkingMilk]

Love your content! Keep it up!

[@ArthurKhazbs]

Shout out to the devs who didn't make it to the finals. You did great too!

[@Loner4life20]

I would love to see the devs make some games similar to old flash games like - invasion 3, storm the house 3, feudalism 2, bunny invasion 2, and warlords: call to arms. I loved all these games and i think this genre would allow 6 devs to make 6 games similar to these. 6 Devs work together to make a game with no communication but you give them guidance with a main theme or hints from past devs.

[@hollowedboi5937]

I think seeing where the critiques were aimed like “did it match the theme?, how does the game feel and is there some JUICE to it?, what’s the mood and atmosphere of the game?” Its good tips as any artist to take in. There was seemingly a necessity of intention in decisions behind the games play and visuals

[@PeterYuan-vs7zz]

I really love the design by joe sullivan, cuz of it's simple but still fun. It's got that tetris or 2048 or snake feel about it.

[@Quisshy]

0:22 WHAT IS BROS NAME 💀

[@clxtairestayawake]

😂😂😂😂

[@MyNameIsGrape_]

💀😭

[@shane7039]

Fr 😂

[@RowDogTV]

I take it we all had to double check?

[@Wkklllll001]

Fr

[@mcsquilliam3978]

Given the theme of momentum, few of these games have any sort of momentum building mechanic

[@ZeroTroubles]

I don't like how you gave each dev a different second theme to incorporate based on what you felt fit best. They should be free to design their game into their own direction.

[@Floky]

All these games are so inspiring! An amazing job by literally everyone involved! Thank you blackthorn for inspiring future game devs!

[@TheCheckpointGuy]

GENIUS IDEA!, a speed running game where if you're going super fast it basically slows everything around you down like you're slowing down time, including the timer but the problem is is that there are a lot of obstacles that slowly open or open really fast but are too slow because you're going too fast, thank you slow down then you're losing a whole bunch of time. So you have to find a whole bunch of different solutions to get to that end result a different way, wild speed running

[@dcholaart]

The way you guys make game dev look very easy.

[@msclrhd]

Dogfooding and playtesting give very valuable feedback on anything you are developing.

[@mitchelltravis6901]

nobody stood a chance against the frog 🤦‍♂️

[@619Slipk]

I usually disagree with your preferences but this time right away from the first round I had both the frog and the car as my top 2

[@sandrafunacc1]

Such a fun concept, happy to see it again!

[@nopenope5836]

I thought it was comparison about one game made using different budget. Like one must not spend money on anything, and the other have to use all or almost $5000, and see how both turns out. But this is so cool as well.

[@a-n..]

Particle accelerator game was insane, top choice for me fr

[@darfukalive]

I think it’s out on steam now