Blair vs Cameron on NHS

[@AndrewWithey]

Its staggering how far the standard of debate has fallen at PMQs, since this.

[@rogueuniversities6866]

Yeah. I didn't like Blair but at least he answered most questions.

[@rr-tv4763]

Yeah

[@jonhayes7322]

Blair altered the format of PMQs to be more gentrified, and the scum today still wah wah it up!

[@tippingnits77]

@@rogueuniversities6866The main reason why PMs don’t answer questions anymore like they should, is because they can’t. They’re all completely useless and haven’t done anything of note to answer for.

[@BigLeek-ig3sb]

​They don't even know the answers. Blair knew there was no category a escapes which is an obscure fact that these days they wouldn't have even known or cared about. Starmer would have never said this. ​In the tiny chance he did know, he would have made it sound silly @@tippingnits77

[@christophermcmanus5103]

Christ how right was Blair about Cameron's health plan. It absolutely annihilated the NHS

[@Johnno9989]

"Labour's not trusted with the NHS" Cameron's a fine one to talk!

[@xkyleprivatex815]

69th like 👍🏻

[@swarming1092]

Amazing to watch this back now eh?

[@suzie7573]

Bollox

[@suzie7573]

Sexual deviants who hate the poor who hate people of colour who use welfare as a contraception to make women not be pregnant more than twice. And persecute the disabled and tax anyone with an extra bedroom. Your a fucking Nazi. Like the tories

[@anonymousthanks4718]

@@suzie7573 Tory

[@natsurusenou131]

Funny how David Cameron is complaining about cuts when thats pretty much all he does now.

[@bricktopbricktop1545]

Didn't have much choice after Liebour near bankrupted the country, did he?

[@popandu8297]

If you study the figures they are not actually cuts at all. They are reductions in additional funding. That's it Tony; get Gordon to get his NHS cheque book out ... it's not your money just sign it!

[@natsurusenou131]

Bricktop Bricktop yes he did, stop lowering taxes for the rich

[@popandu8297]

Good luck with supporting a war criminal with a cheshire cat smile. The most punchable face ever.

[@lesterdyltT]

Hear hear.

[@nicholasspeeks5380]

Lucid, informed, articulate, serious, witty from the days when we had a government and an opposition worthy of the name, the game and this nation.

[@davidbillyard6629]

I don’t think so. Behind the scenes, they are mostly speaking good friends. The civil servants do the majority of the work.

[@crazyfishmonster459]

How low we have sunk to believe that Blair and Cameron was a better time in politics...

[@ayonio5723]

They certainly weren't perfect but they were far better than the current leaders of the two main parties

[@never152]

We are worlds away from this.

[@gjn17]

Because of these past people (Blair, Caneron..) and opposition now we are in this situation.

[@thepepper191]

This isn’t poor video quality, people just looked like that back then

[@Blake4014]

yep lol pixelated crap 2d characters, correct. They're not much better today tbf.

[@orlando124431]

What an ironic shift....look at Cameron talking about cuts and the NHS its like he actually cared back then!!

[@dantaylor7344]

+orlando124431 He never cared, never has never will.

[@veggie42]

orlando124431 He cared because of his son who he used the NHS for when he held a secret tax haven,Blair meanwhile went private

[@baldy_locks167]

To be fair mate that’s the puppet show that’s been created to keep us voting and thinking we have a say. The current government no matter who they are Will continue to make cut backs and the opposition no matter who they are will keep banging on about the nhs, policing, education etc.. it’s all bs

[@euripides2134]

@@baldy_locks167 And yet the amount of money going into the NHS keeps going up every year, it's almost like it's a money burning factory. Private healthcare would be cheaper, and getting rid of "insurance" as an idea would be even cheaper than that.

[@baldy_locks167]

Euripides oh yeah the NHS is entirely mismanaged and far too reliant on foreign workers. Which is only going to be made worse by Brexit. The NHS needs totally reshaping from the ground up. However I don’t agree that private healthcare is the way forwards at all. If you think corruption in the NHS is bad just investigate countries who use a private health care system. It’s ridiculous. My original point however was less about the NHS and more about how this is all just a pantomime. It’s the oppositions job (who ever that maybe, tories, labour etc) to cry about how the nhs and the police and all public services are underfunded. But as you say it’s not, it’s just an illusion. None of it is real, it’s just a show to make us think our votes actually mean something...

[@Strider_JM]

“No buts, just cuts” the audacity of Cameron saying that is ridiculous

[@waltclarke2618]

How? Cameron didn't have any NHS cuts?

[@rybo1233]

@@waltclarke2618 Cameron introduced austerity and also brexit which has been massively damaging to the UK economy. I would much rather have Blair in charge now than the jackasses in government now. Its just a fact that the tories are incompetent now

[@HamishMcDouga1l]

@@waltclarke2618 but he cut every other public service in austerity. And if you’re cutting every other but not cutting Healthcare then there is a disproportionate strain on other services

[@suzie7573]

It's not ridiculous it's DEVESTSATING!!

[@waltclarke2618]

@@rybo1233 😂 "Cameron introduced austerity" you can't really be that stupid. So no other government ever introduced cuts before Cameron's governemnt in the history of the World Politics. He inherited a recession and the worst economic environment in history courtesy of your beloved Blair. What was he supposed to do? Print more money and make everything free for everyone? Think before you make a statement in future.

[@DCDPM]

"No buts, but cuts" quipped Cameron, the architect of Austerity. The hubris of these Tories is unbelievable.

[@NileshFowdar]

Coming from Cameron: "No buts just cuts" Slightly ironic; don't you think?

[@Skyebadoo]

Because he could see the credit crunch coming of course

[@KevenHutchinson-gt1nn]

He didn't cut the NHS to be fair

[@simonhinchliffe8228]

Excluding the Iraq war,Tony Blair was a great prime minister

[@crazyfishmonster459]

Great Prime Minister, yeah. Mass immigration, totally untenable and unmanageable levels of spending, part-privatisation of the NHS and social care, and the constant lies to the public about everything that was happening under their nose. Cameron was a far better Prime Minister, and I didn't think I'd catch myself saying that.

[@kurtjappy]

Coffee Arts mass austerity, debt still rising, tax cuts on the rich, secondary education is shit, mass unemployment. Cammy was just as shite

[@alex-sv8ru]

@@crazyfishmonster459 Lmao. Everything you just mentioned, Cameron done it way worse than blair.

[@noahbowie5985]

Tony Blair was a very good PM he just made a few massive mistakes. All his work was undone by Cameron the second he walked through the door of number 10.

[@munchgamez9956]

NEO DAV yes and conservative are tryna fuck the nhs?

[@daveyork0]

Two PMs go at it. Great debate at a cracking pace. V open government.

[@veggie42]

daveyork0 It was funny that Tories wanted their own Blair

[@davidbillyard6629]

This is all pre planned and scripted, but if it impresses you - fair enough.

[@jayd4ever]

Cameron is more slimy than Blair

[@stumbling]

Say what you like about these two, it was damn entertaining to watch them go at each other.

[@sirwinston2659]

Absolutely despise the guy, but Blair was a master at the Despatch Box.

[@stevenoc]

This is brilliant. Here it is! I wish the whole of the uk would watch this and remember what Cameron said then!! Slimey little git.

[@FrankLucas-pw5hs]

Ironic how Cameron finishes off his speech highlighting how the ruling party is divided, when Blair did it just before his election too vs John Mayor.

[@veggie42]

Frank Lucas Correct.Alike.

[@mki2xa]

And it's happening again nowadays.

[@james_44]

All governments finish divided.

[@craigfowler7098]

Back when we had a real leader of this country, and not Bojo The Clown, Dizzy Lizzy or Dishy Rishi

[@mdhs8248]

There would have been 5 Prime Ministers in this room during this exchange

[@mdhs8248]

@@jugular911 not Hague, Boris Johnson

[@prodigiii712]

Yeah he was elected in 2001. He was there

[@andrewrichardson2079]

One wonders how many there are in there now

[@historyprofessor1985]

Johnson, May, Cameron, Brown, and Blair!

[@clefton3112]

@@andrewrichardson2079 i reckon Rishi Sunak will be put forward after Boris. Possibly he will be one if he can win an election

[@chapmasi]

This was back when David Cameron actually had a decent sparing partner on the other side of the table... Brown never stood a chance, and even though better, Milliband is still no Match for Cameron

[@stannats2637]

Should of been David Miliband - Harriet Harman made sure of it wasn’t the case and in turn Labour and politics died on its arse

[@gorgu08]

Brown was actually the better politician of them all just not a great orator

[@dominicchallis2928]

@@stannats2637Harman was given the reigns for interim management of the Labour Party for like three weeks and managed to destroy them for a decade via the butterfly effect.

[@MrJohn1Cage]

In the last bit Blair came across very well. Dynamic speaker.

[@guitardude341]

Last sentence was so true, 'if you want to be taken serious as a leader, get serious on substance'.

[@suzie7573]

Cameron starved the poor killed the pensioners over saw suicides of vulnerable disabled people. That's the dodgy dave that's on about the NHS to Mr Blair. As soon as the fools voted them in he attacked the poor the disabled and denied NHS money. He stopped legal aid for the poor. So poor people had to represent themselves in a court of law without any defence. After the ugly fake cunt did that he lined his fucking pockets and bank account with what he and his filthy perverted peado party saved in austerity. Then fucked of.no cunts seen him since. Keep voting for a bunch of charlatan conning pervy party throwing peados.the people deserve what they get when they vote filth like that

[@TheSincera7]

Blair handled this well and put Cameron at his place

[@hcb3150]

love seeing Camron complaining about cuts on NHS

[@iansimcox]

Wow, the difference between Blair's reaction to his gaffe stands in marked contrast to Brown and his 'saved the world' moment.

[@lauralishes1]

Hi, so how do you think the last 12 years have gone?

[@cmendes11]

This video sumarrises very well why I always hated Cameron, and always respected Blair. And it's a shame that even today with Cameron as the PM by hung parliament default, he is still the pathetic jester that he was in opposition.

[@ellisbaker93]

Such irony, pretty much everything Cameron's criticising Blair for has become an issue for him in the Coalition. 20,000 job losses in the NHS seems like nothing now compared to the havoc his lot are creating.

[@TheRealUSArmy]

13 years later...

[@Andyc18]

Blair rocked, I thought he was a good prime minister, he gave Cameron a good run for his money on prime ministers questions, Cameron seems to dominate against Brown most the time.

[@SiLoJayLo]

Blair wiped the floor with Cameron. I agree with Helen Trope's comments. Cameron presided over the lowest level of house building than that of any other PM during the 21st century. He was an Eton posh boy, & nothing else.

[@lauralishes1]

Then we got an even worse Eton posh boy after him. I think we should ban all Eton grifters from Westminster.

[@KevenHutchinson-gt1nn]

Maybe in other PMQs, he didn't here.

[@SiLoJayLo]

Blair was one of the few people who could effectively tackle Cameron, in PMQs. We need another Blair - or, at least, someone with the know-how & charisma - to tackle "May's way or no way", given the totally weak performance of Corbyn.

[@leonbanks5728]

Do you like PMQs now?

[@rushelectrics5415]

The year is 2022, it looks bleak. The world has just come out of a pandemic, the economy hits 40 year inflation rates, Europe is close to a full on war, there is a food crisis, supply chains are all ruined. And now we have to choose between two PM options and both options are like picking the last fruits on a shelf at the end of a long hot week!

[@shussey1446]

@@rushelectrics5415 And the Queen’s dead.

[@ch-p2861]

May was no threat

[@Blake4014]

@@rushelectrics5415 world war 3 on the horizon, who'dve thought it.

[@craigfowler7098]

When questions were actually answered

[@henzohewson]

This debate took place the year I was born, in 2006, when I was a few months old. Now, a full 16 years later, and oh boy have things changed in the House of Commons.

[@theblackdoctor2]

A year after I was born. It's truly fascinating isn't it? Watching back and seeing the incumbent prime minister against the future... Especially considering the dire position the Tories had been in for years prior. Now it seems we were at the opposite end, but could once again be looking at a turning point

[@SebastienLoong]

@NewLabour1 Your absolutely right~ And every time time Cameron loses to Blair, he quickly avoids tactics by talking about Brown-Blair rather than dealing with the actual argument.

[@icedbannanas]

agree or disagree with Tony Blair's opinions and decisions, he knew how to stand his ground and debate!

[@DD-xw6uw]

I reckon it’s the lawyer in him. His law career pre politics probably taught him how to handle this type of situation.

[@user-ki6ui9jj1p]

Wow the pm actually answered the questions back then. You watch it now and all the pm does is avoid answering the question by deflecting

[@101MRSPICE]

The BBC of British Prime Ministers (Blair, Brown, Cameron) had good Scottish common sense from these PMs (Though Cameron is born in England but has Scottish ancestry) how we need these guys back what a disaster was Bojob-Truss and the likes..

[@blueguitarblue]

@BasilFawlty4444 Thank you very much for the clarifications. Nice of you to take the time. American politics are so constipated in comparison.

[@money5434]

There is no escaping from the fact that he was one of the most educated Prime Ministers of this country. Studying law at the oxford university is certainly more advantageous than studying PPE. One is a highly concentrated subject while the other is fragmented.

[@suzie7573]

Still he don't care a flying fuck about you or your type.hes a Marxist in disguise.he is rich. They can slip out the back door when the country is burning and buy a ranch in texas or some place where you'll never be. Now fuck off money. Cuz I got news for ya. Ya got no moneythe tories are already making sure ov dat. Twonk

[@geoffreyking4515]

Both shithouses,

[@daveyddunne]

My god, an actual debate in Parliament... Really miss these days.

[@metallord999]

Blair was a great Prime Minister if it wasn't for Iraq he would be remembered for all the things such as tax credits and other things which helped the people alot. If they had found weapons he would have been a national hero

[@Heshkinp]

Tony Blair was great at highlight and debating policy issues and did so much for the UK like the nhs, tax credits, minimum wage, economic stablity which the Tories are already ruining alot of this. Serves ppl right for voting tory/lib dems.

[@chrisdawson6156]

We can ensure that all those foreign secretary uh foreign haha funny as hell

[@adzez]

I miss this debates from C-span. I miss Tony Blair. Hes a very good speaker.

[@tobyharling719]

Gosh, proper questions on policies and the questions answered. Not just petty point scoring.

[@iandhr1]

Blair and Cameron were great showman

[@crystalpoo87]

Aww I wish Tony Blair was still in power. He was the best.

[@CHRISDABAHIA]

crystal poo Hmmm, but the 'best' at *what*, that is the question.

[@simpsonsim07]

***** Well we have a different one now who's much worse than blair.

[@CHRISDABAHIA]

simpsonsim07 Worse than that creature, Blair? Hardly....

[@simpsonsim07]

Chris Owens Well at least some of the policies that Blair implemented actually helped the average Briton. Most of the policies that Cameron has implemented has actually harmed the average Briton more than even the worst piece of legislation that Blair passed.

[@PokeMetro]

Chris Owens bringing a national minimum wage and equality to britain which was needed for about 120 years lol

[@AlexDragonfire96]

Blair was one of the greatest UK's prime ministers

[@emizerri]

If you replace Prime Ministers with Tyrants, yes.

[@kevinwhitelightermusic2373]

Fast forward to 2022 and then less staff in nhs

[@gemmisco]

My teacher says Blair had style and substance and Cameron has style but no substance xD

[@lauralishes1]

Your teacher was smart

[@zr3755]

Teachers shouldn't give out political endorsements

[@mazibukomail]

@@zr3755 Nah, those were just facts.

[@janebusby]

The Conservatives : The party which just sold off your NHS.

[@tonymcmonster1798]

@0 0 f

[@garethwilkinson3456]

The arrogance and capability is far beyond now. What the hell are we doing?

[@SamoIsKing]

This is night and day compared to the circus PMQs has become. Even when Blair muddles his words and everyone has a laugh its still miles above the state of modern politics.

[@DoctorLush]

@Aleeraize I'm from the states and I can't agree more, David seemed as if he didn't come up with any comments relevant to governmental issues, it almost looked as if his strategy at the debate was to cause as much of an uproar as possible while insulting Blair.

[@bluestream1977]

debating tactic of David Cameron is offensive, nasty, hateful and grotesque

[@joshingaboutwithjosh]

bluestream1977 then he shouldn't be in politics bbuuut he is

[@veggie42]

bluestream1977 ironically Blair mentioned Howard who was EUROSCEPIC!

[@UnknownPersononGoogle]

Toryism for you

[@dlk1dlk1]

It was deliberate to make people sympathise with him. He always does this.

[@ehnowthen]

Two deeply unpleasant men.

[@garethwilkinson3456]

Far better than now. And I thought Blair had a lower standard of language!

[@Arunp47]

Your sir, have put it perfectly. I think of it as same sh*t different package.

[@Feisal254]

Two heavyweights!

[@NobodyYouKnow754]

Labour were still better the the clowns now 2022

[@MetalMinded2011]

Isn't it strange how similar Blair and Cameron seem today as very charismatic, rhetorically enormously talented, and yet ultimately rather lightweight and irresponsible leaders? Maybe the UK will indeed be better off with a more boring yet more serious leader that is Theresa May, it's just a pity that the givens she'll have to navigate through are pretty much the worst for decades.

[@joshuacondell1686]

fuck off

[@tonymcmonster1798]

F

[@dominicchallis2928]

We can only speculate, I would have liked for that to have been true.

[@MrYoungIndependence]

The best way forward for healthcare in this country is to privatise the NHS. This would make it directly accountable to the people and would allow us to choose between various styles of healthcare.

[@goofysmick]

I agree he was a brilliant chancellor.

[@JuniorCampbellmusic]

Markedley different era, eh ....debate worth watching, and despite the serious issues, good will is apparent .. on both sides of the House

[@KARIM_HAMZA]

*War criminals.*

[@GarrettCroslin]

Gordon Brown looks like he’s about to go to sleep.

[@AlanMannion100]

Cameron arrived at No.10 with great promise, blowing it all with that ridiculous referendum. What ever happened to parliamentary government and Burke's notion of responsibility upon which it rests?

[@NevillesGran1]

@RichardElden I concede that the Sugar Act was just bringing things into line, but paying to stamp all papers, letters, newspapers, forms, only being allowed to buy tea from the East India Trading Company, on which the tax was increased, and closing Boston Harbor, all without even giving us a chance to argue our side? A tad unfair.

[@Alexisnotburning]

Wow, Cameron lecturing Blair on cuts - the irony.

[@freddy270676]

Wow - all those foreign secretaries? 🙂😂😂🤣🤣 Did he write George Dubya's recent 'unlawful invasion of Iraq' speech?

[@Steve10578]

5:00 - "Labour not trusted anymore with the NHS" LOL, I'm sure it was Labour who set it rolling in the first place. If he feels that strongly about the NHS then I guess my local hospital is now no longer in danger of closing.

[@erestun]

If Blair would not have taken Britain to fight in Iraq he'd still be the PM today. He is way better that Brown or Cameron as PM

[@ConorMK]

It's so ironic watching this now, because Cameron is the one causing all the cuts now, bloody hypocrite.

[@lauralishes1]

Jeez 11 years ago, they hadn't even got started. Absolute state of the NHS and the whole country now after 12 years of misery and decay. Everything is worse under the Tories, absolutely everything

[@SnorkyO]

We need David Millaband

[@sailingforde04]

We have actually come out very well under them , and they were a by far better alternative to the major governemtn

[@anthonygarvey3571]

Gordon flipping Brown......Worst PM ever, along with hes mate Blair, what has he contributed to this country nothing... he just ruined it instead.

[@lauralishes1]

"Whatever happened to automatic deportations" Tory David Cameron. Hahahaha. Oh how people were conned. I dont know what did happen to them Dave?

[@Leebo9372]

Bring back Labour. For the sake of all thats right...Bring back Labour...

[@OfficialDotA2Nepalcom]

battle between two salesman warming up for next job election

[@MrDannybs09]

@DeenHartley Shame that Blair focused on Education, even though the country was slipping down the ranks in education with Blair

[@matcross23]

Blair tore him up!!

[@constantinople999]

It means they want to ask the PM a question, and are requesting that the speaker lets them speak.

[@doctorsocrates4413]

Tony was very articulate and statesman like at the stand..i will give him that.

[@DominicLeslie]

Cameron said "No buts, just cuts" he wants to look at what his doing to Britain now just cuts

[@navidnamini1169]

I'm a democrat, but I think Cameron has done a great job as PM. I would vote for him

[@Melanth89]

@EvilJohnnyAllen I'd debate the crap out of that. Don't forget that it was Blair who was 1ic when Brown was rolling around ruining the economy, leaving us with the utter shambles that Cameron is dealing with now.

[@owenlee6125]

And what did Cameron do to the NHS

[@TheEmoKiller3000]

markjamesmelrose you have it absolutely right. All Cameron does is point out the cons of Gordon Brown, he doesn't explain any of his own policies, he has no policies, all he does is make jokes, he doesn't know shit about running a country. Gordon Brown does have some knowledge of how to handle the country, and he does have his policies; what people fail to realise is the economy isn't down to him but the basic economic cycle and other factors.

[@ethanhenson3906]

Seeing ‘15 years ago’ on a KZbin vid is wild

[@chrisdawson6156]

Haha at 2:10 Tony said foreign secretaries instead of foreign prisoners and everyone laughed there heads off

[@iwasborn8470]

🤣🤣🤣.

[@nathaniellathy6559]

Cameron had a plan. Take over for 14 years and not change a thing.

[@theredraven]

I think going to Oxford is living for something. Takes hard work that.

[@rosscol601]

BRING BACK TONY BLAIR

[@solidzakuvian]

America needs this style of debate. Bad.

[@OGAndizzo]

I love the PMQs

[@SebastienLoong]

"Does the Prime Minister back the Chancellor as his successor? I mean I do, do you?" - David Cameron.

[@johnteal5242]

Yes, Lord Mandleson said the working class in England had to be punished for voting Conservative four times.

[@Leebo9372]

No one is a saint, and with the pressures of Governments, things can be overlooked. I didn't really like Brown, but yes, Blair I thought was reasonably ok, as far as Prime Ministers go anyway. Atleast he seemed to know what he was doing. People like yourself seem to recall the negatives of New Labour, but what Labour done in 13 years could definatly outmatch the credit of this omnishambles of a coalition.

[@03ALPE01]

The first sentence said in this video is absolutely priceless.

[@philmitchell91]

Back when PMQs was worth watching, saying what you want but at least they were skilled at the dispatch box.