The Expanse 4x1 REACTION!! "New Terra"

Eric Rick Calvin and Aaron react to and discuss season 4 episode 1 of The Expanse - New Terra - #TheExpanse
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[@BlindWave]

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[@keeganbate8935]

This one is probably one of my favorite seasons, even if it's occasionally slow. I love the dynamics on Ilus and the boost in budget pops so much

[@elvisibra]

Guys, these guys have advanced tech, probes, telemetey, I mean, do you see the sails on their ships? They are not going blind, that allegory is the weak point in this situation..

[@elvisibra]

Belters use resources from planets, but they can't live there cause of their physiognomy and biology, if try to adapt to planets, more then 80% of them will die of, and the rest who adapted will become new "race"..Belters adapting to planets would be a sort of a genocide

[@Haegemon]

Just a question to think about. For what's we use of lithium? The answer it's never explained in the live show, but mentioned in the books by Miller. Also keep remembering the moon the Rocinante shot with its main gun.

[@aimeeck]

Eric's smiley face watching this show like a kid in a candy store is my very favorite. Watching you guys just fall in love with this show slowly then all at once has been such a fun journey.

[@kampfkeks6619]

It's a bit of a shame that they had to recast Avaseralas husband because the new one doesn't feel right. It felt much more humble and honest with the former actor.

[@J.D....]

Fun fact, the "Rana" Bobbie said hello to in the apartment was named after Rana from The Normies!

[@nicodetorenwachter227]

They mentioned that at the end

[@J.D....]

@@nicodetorenwachter227 they did? i totally missed that

[@nicodetorenwachter227]

@@J.D.... Yes sir. Aaron mentioned it at 37:19 and they even show the scene.

[@sparrowlt]

it was hilarious to see Ty pop up in the KZbin coments section of that video to confirm it

[@Kennia1998]

Omg I didn't know that, that's so coooool

[@otakarbeinhauer]

"Rocinante is Don Quixote's horse in the two-part 1605/1615 novel Don Quixote by Miguel de Cervantes. In many ways, Rocinante is not only Don Quixote's horse, but also his double; like Don Quixote, he is awkward, past his prime, and engaged in a task beyond his capacities." -From Wikipedia

[@elvisibra]

The Roci crew of False Knights

[@galadballcrusher8182]

@@elvisibra depends what you define as "false " knights because basicaly in a society that had stoped being as feudal as before knights were extinct breed and Don Quixote was a chivalrous man who lived inthe past , so everyone considered a kook...it is kinda like Katsumoto in Last Samurai except Katsumoto was raised in them traditions and wanted cling to them while Don Quixote was born past the era and wanted revive them or live in them in his delusional mind

[@elvisibra]

@@galadballcrusher8182 False Kinght is not a term that describes title or status, but the effect, Don Quixite was a fool i.e. false knight

[@andrewdiaz3529]

What was his loyal hounds name?

[@sparrowlt]

@@galadballcrusher8182 Cervantes actualy made a point in the book that Quixote while most people made fun and laught at him for being crazy.. was actually trying to do right and bring justice and some people even saw that and respected him even knowing full he was crazy..and he ultimatelly makes a deep impression in some people.. specially Sancho who begins tagging along to protect Quixote from himself and other dangers and by the end is quite changed and while not delusional or crazy he begins trying to making really a difference and do good

[@Marvee78]

Yup. Sol system is our system. Inside the ring is Ring system and Illus is Illus system. Illus is in the goldilock zone.

[@davis.fourohfour]

The proper Latin names, to match Mercury, Venus, Mars, etc. Sol = The Sun Terra = The Earth Luna = The Moon Via Lactea = The Milky Way galaxy

[@RandomNPC001]

In Brazilian Portuguese they are Sol = sun Mercurio = Mercury Venus = Venus Terra = earth Marte = Mars Jupiter = jupiter Saturno = saturn Urano = uranus Netuno = Neptune Plural = Pluto Lua = moon

[@brandonh4195]

The cinematography in s4 is absolutely phenomenal, so glad you guys are on this season!

[@Variecs]

"NO ONE GOT TURNED INTO A FLOOR!" (c) Aaron

[@Reedstilt]

The show never did a good job of explaining how few Belters there actually are. Earth-Luna, has a population of about 30 billion. Mars has a population of about 9 billion. At most, there are about 100 million people in the Belt and Outer Planets. So when agreements were being drawn up to divide up the new systems, the Belt was never going to get a full 1/3 of the systems. They were only ever going to get a handful. They traded away several of those systems to Earth and Mars to become the sole administrators of the Ring Space itself. They traded another to the Mormons to settle the legal battle over the Nauvoo / Medina Station. We never hear if they had any systems left for themselves after that.

[@shinokugt]

The thing some people don't realize and/or appreciate this season is that it's only less "exciting" when compared to seasons 3 and 5 because it had to be the bridge between them, with regards to covering the book material and setting up a whole new plot arc after that previous climax

[@ygkemosabi8280]

season 5 was exciting? all i remember is crying what happened again?

[@matthewfors114]

@@ygkemosabi8280 ummm marcos??? ships disappearing, asteroids hitting the planet.... this was a joke right?

[@artboymoy]

@@matthewfors114 Wow. You guys aren't big spoilers are you?

[@ImAlsoMerobiba]

@@ygkemosabi8280 🤣😂

[@nathanp2007]

I love the questions and topics this show brings up that spark debate, even within yourself. The topic of the Belters being a nomadic culture and some of them fighting against colonizing new planets because they're scared they'll lose that culture is interesting. Another one is whether you let humans go out and explore and colonize new planets or you play it safe and slowly make sure you're not going to spring a trap or set off a chain of circumstances that results in catastrophic death. The Expanse is like top tier Star Trek in that it gives you all sorts of dilemmas and issues to think about and debate and also reflect on how they apply to our lives now in the real world. Love it.

[@andrewdiaz3529]

Various nomadic cultures had invaded and taken over a decadent China only to become decadent rulers in luxury in a few generations and taken over themselves by other nomads.

[@matthewfors114]

its like how very recently there is a trend of americans not wanting to melt and have an american culture but this whole thing of culture appropriation and white washing being a fad for people to complain about. People dont want to shed their traditions or morph them because they are afraid of losing their identity that a culture has provided for them but people should just have their own identity as an individual. cultures will always change, i love this fucking show! lol

[@matthewfors114]

@@andrewdiaz3529 KHAN!!!!!

[@franciscooctavius5957]

Don Quixote clues are everywhere in this show and it’s glorious. Welcome back Madame Avasarala. Love you to death.

[@snarflcat6187]

"There's no fish in space..." Actually, fish would be one of the easiest things to take into space. Huge aquarium-like tanks with controlled environment. NASA engineers originally had plans to have a recycling system for the ISS that had tilapia tanks hooked to algae farms hooked to the solar panels. Tilapia thrive on dirty water, so some of the waste the crew produce would go into the tank. The waste heat of the ISS would keep the tank warm enough for the fish. In the SF world of Robotech the SF author had huge tanks of shrimp (fed on human waste) which they turned into a tofu-like protein paste that could then be processed into a simuli of any kind of meat.

[@mksongbird]

so glad that the show was saved from cancellation. (between Season 3 and 4) the video on the campaign to get The Expanse brought back out of cancellation is a great watch, too. pup n suds for life!

[@o.m.a.r3311]

By which streaming service? NBC or Netflix?

[@mksongbird]

@@o.m.a.r3311 Amazon saved the series after SYFY announced it was being cancelled while Season 3 was airing.

[@b7iink11]

Too bad it was canceled again though.

[@Reedstilt]

@@b7iink11 "Cancelled" doesn't appear to the right word for what's going on now. The series is ending, but the writing and production crew have heavily hinted that The Expanse-on-Screen is not. Given what happens at the end of end of book 6 / beginning of book 7, it makes sense for the things might take a different course after Season 6 wraps up.

[@b7iink11]

@@Reedstilt oh yeah? That's great if true

[@reginaldkelly4269]

The lead beer is from Vikings from the Floki Iceland storyline

[@jamesmayes4351]

Nice to see you guys all back on the same table!

[@nugking2021]

we got those bezo's bucks now boys

[@Kennia1998]

Inners call it new terra, belters call it ilus

[@sierra1513]

most people seem to call it Ilus anyway lol

[@Ramipon]

Ilus sounds better

[@Kuhmuhnistische_Partei]

The inners would probably just call everything New Terra, New Terra II, New Terra III ect. and New Mars, New Mars II, New Mars III ect. .

[@LordTelperion]

@@Ramipon Ilus was the brother of Ganymede.

[@LordTelperion]

@@Kuhmuhnistische_Partei All hail Holy Terra, fountainhead of Mankind.

[@HaaruteLIVE]

11:22 YEAH SAME. IT'S OUR BOY OWEN!

[@Wuffskers]

"I feel like the culture should be against the society that put you there, not just against where the society lives" I think you underestimate how environment shapes culture. You can maybe disagree with Drummer, but from her perspective it's not just "Earthers and Martians are bad specifically" it's "there is something about living on a planet that leads to the exploitation of people who live in space" and she's probably right for exactly the reason Aaron gave after, because belters rely a decent amount on "inners" there is a power imbalance that is ever present and that power imbalance is going to persist even on exo-planets and even if the original settlers were belters. It is not that crazy to think in just a few generations people on Illus will be doing exactly the same things to belters that Earth and Mars has done just because they can because they have their own planet.

[@Kuhmuhnistische_Partei]

I mean, a planet can just support a lot more people and has a lot of ressources and both relatively centralized compared to the belters who are extreme decentralized. I would guess most of the ressources are mined in space at that point, but all over the Sol system. So while the overall ressources are mostly in Belter hands, Earth and Mars have a higher density of ressources and people and are therefore more capable of building and maintaining fleets ect. . The situation of the belters is a bit like workers in the 19th century who lived in barracks right next to the factories and were not allowed to leave the area, just that the belters really can't leave, because outside of their workplace is just empty space and a lot of them are not even capable of living on planets. I don't even know how much belters really rely on the inners? I mean, most of the ressources they need are probably from space, even water.

[@thomasmann4536]

yes and no. Culture doesn't just change when your environment changes. This is why the melting pot idea failed for the US, because the people immigrating there didn't just give up their identity. Our history matters to us, so it's actually quite far fetched to believe that in just 2 generations (when your grandparents are usually still around by the time you're old enough to understand stuff) an entire culture would change that drastically. Even on earth, there has not been such a culture shift in the history of our species.

[@olentie]

For anyone who felt season 4 was lacking or less action packed, read Cibola Burn. Although, I think they did a great job adapting the book to fit the budget and number of episodes, a major part of the storyline was cut out as a result, and I think with it a large part of the action. Season 4 is still good though, but definitely read the book.

[@sparrowlt]

They "omited" nearly the entire orbit thing between the 3 ships.. left the attack and towing thing but a lot of stuff missing from the book including the whole Havelock thing.. however they added much more stuff going on thats not in the books including the whole Bobie , Avasarala and Drummer/Ashford - Inaros arcs all of wich will tie with S5/6. so considering what the book tells they did a good job.. but i understand (it was clear while reading CB) that after the rush S2 and 3 was many people will find S4 as a downer in pace

[@olentie]

@@sparrowlt I think they added the stuff with Bobbie/Avasarala & Drummer/Ashford from book 5 for the benefit of keeping those characters for the season, which is fine. Of course Drummer is an amalgamation of characters they've omitted from the book too. I think they're done a good job keeping the essence of the books in the show. I was just suggesting to anyone who may have felt s4 was slow that there's a richer, fuller story in the book 4, if they're interested.

[@sparrowlt]

@@olentie also i feel they cutted too much of the Murty-Coop history only in the side of Coop wich makes Murty appear more "evil" .. i mean in the book Coop and his minions kill RCE security personal like 2 more times after the shuttle attack , all of them unprovoqued and ambushing them in order to murder them.. and they were caught planing another attack.. the show deleted the 2 murders and after the shuttle and 2 separated multiple murders to his personel and friends Murty was more than enought pissed with the Belters and Coop .. then they left Murty retaliations pretty much intact in the show wich makes Murty look quite more violent and willing to kill belters..at least in the first half of the book before he becames full greedy

[@olentie]

@@sparrowlt @sparrowJLT this is a great point. Although Murty still felt like the "bad" guy to me, the attack on the shuttle etc does put in context some of his actions. With the Belters attack cut, it kind of makes them seem more helpless and blameless. Also, it takes away the redemption of Coop at the end, which I think was a good part of the story. I definitely think time and budget explained cutting the orbit arc, but I think leaving out the plotting of Coop and the Belters made the story more one dimensional. Again I think it was too fit it all in a short season. I would have preferred cutting the parts on Mars that is really from book 5 and keeping the Belters/Earther conflict intact. I do think that was for the TV side to keep contact with all of our characters, so I get why they did that.

[@sparrowlt]

@Tomen Atter Dont wee see them in Season 5 in the rescue of Monica?

[@testpattern23]

I recognize that one OPA guy on the planet from Lost Girl, one of the main characters...played a werewolf

[@autumncolors7015]

The other actor with all the tattoos that Eric and Calvin said they know from somewhere was on Vikings (the Iceland plotline).

[@LeeCarlson]

Remember when Holden asked The Investigator what was happening and he responded by asking if he wanted to know about the "non-local quantum hologram manifesting in the microtubules of his brain."

[@BattleBunny1979]

6:25 Lithium has a very low density (0.534 g/cm3), comparable with pine wood. It is the least dense of all elements that are solids at room temperature

[@thomashiggins9320]

Not too much Avasarala, last season, but you get a lot more of her, this time. And, now we see the type of story this is -- a frontier story, and the best frontier stories are Westerns. The initial setup, here, comes straight out of Sergio Leone's, "A Fistful of Dollars," with its two violent, rival factions in one small town. This season isn't quite the awesome chaos as Season 3, but it does set up a lot of stuff for the next two seasons. The impact on existing politics is just the surface, really. Your discussion on the cultural impacts, as seen in Drummer's comments, really foreshadows some of the other events we'll see, this season. I enjoyed it. :)

[@anonymes2884]

* cough * 'Yojimbo' * cough * :) (I know, I know, 'Yojimbo' is kind of a segment of a circle that _started_ with Westerns, went to Japan and then came back to the west but in the specific case of '...Dollars' you gotta give credit where it's due)

[@thomashiggins9320]

@@anonymes2884 I agree with that, and would recommend "Yojimbo." It's a fine Kurosawa film that stands up well. However, it's a lot harder to find "Yojimbo," in the United States, than it is to find Leone's, "A Fistful of Dollars." These guys could probably access "Yojimbo," and Rick may actually already own it on DVD, but most people would understand the "Fistful of Dollars" reference, a little more readily.

[@TheHyperfilthered]

Calvin the cool cat with the pen flips again. Also noticed that Zefrank1 reference :D

[@rodentnolastname6612]

Of note, they change the aspect ratio when on Ilus/New Terra 😲

[@xanderalaniz2298]

P E A C H E S

[@m0nkeywrench]

Although I agree about the discovery of the new world being just as unbelievable relatively speaking, the diseases were a really good point for that, "No one turned into a floor in your scenario!" was hilarious lmao

[@efetherman]

Calvin hit that nail on the head with an analogy. I saw Red energy am I getting color blind?

[@01000001011100100111]

I think that alien technology doing some wild things is actually much easier for these people to understand than it would have been for colonists who were randomly dropping dead. The latter should have been much scarier and more aversive, if anything.

[@sallyshipwreck4315]

In the books Clarissa worked with Amos all the way back to wherever they put her in prison. They developed a relationship over the months.

[@gweedle8521]

Sol Ring? What's next, friggin' Mana Crypt?

[@AngeloBarovierSD]

Don't be silly! ...it's clearly a Mox Sapphire.

[@Spiritwolfmac]

The blonde belter was in Lost Girl and Umbrella Academy

[@davidbodor1762]

9:50 - No it's more about colonization and forgetting your culture/heritage. In many countries occupied by the British, the natives were "better off" integrating entirely, learning British history, learning the English language, going to English schools, working for British companies, etc... A lot of it was forced, some of it was incentivized, but some of it also happened voluntarily, because parents want the best lives for their children. So if something could give them an advantage in life, they did it. But is what you gain worth it for what you lose?

[@2o7o7dragon]

I was just gonna rage at Calvin being dense. I'm glad you had a more eloquent response.

[@thomasmann4536]

that's kinda not the same though, because the belters wouldn't integrate into inner society, they'd build their own, just on a planet, instead of space. They would trade shit health, shit environment, shit living conditions at a vague risk of maybe becoming like inners. the free education analogy was quite spot on since the belters don't really have to sacrifice anything.

[@davidbodor1762]

@@thomasmann4536 The living conditions and health were shit because they were under the thumb of the inners. All they wanted was freedom and now they have it and they can advance and develop and build upon the culture and traditions that they created during a time of extreme hardship for their people. Bear in mind they have their own culture, their own dialect of the language, their own traditions, their own laws and their own political systems. They created a society for themselves in the most inhospitable circumstances while being under the rule of Mars and Earth. Of course they'd want to preserve that even if economically or even pragmatically, it'd make sense to just abandon all those traditions and that culture and just create a new one or assimilate into the way of life of the inners they fought against for decades. It's like asking a Native American why they bother learning their own tribe's language when English is so much more useful for getting into a university or finding a job, whereas their native tongue might not be useful for getting a job or getting into a university. Well the answer is - that's not why they learn it.

[@thomasmann4536]

@@davidbodor1762 Im not talking about being under Earth and Mars, I'm talking about what low G does to your body. Which would have happened to Belters regardless of who was in charge. And no, you don't have to give up your culture when changing places. Immigrants very often still keep their language. There's plenty of examples of that in the american history, and plenty more in other parts of the world. Oh, and by the way: You can be bilingual, that's what most of the world does. The idea that by going to another place or by learning something new, you automatically abandon your culture, is absurd. Check out Roman history :)

[@davidbodor1762]

@@thomasmann4536 They have meds for the negative effects of low G and have lived in it for so long it's part of them at this point. Yeah you don't HAVE to, but it's convenient for some, and culture changes with time and new places. Do you think 30-50 years after living on a planet they'll still see themselves as belters or something else? Anyways, I speak 4 languages, I am not talking about being bilingual, here, I am saying people who'd argue there is no point in even learning a language since it's not pragmatically useful. As I mention in the OP, some parents legit avoid their own culture because they know their children would have a better shot at a good education and a good job if they minimize that part of themselves. Learn from foreign renowned universities and work for foreign multi-national companies. It's something that happens naturally over time. If we're checking out Rome - What happens after the Fall of the Western Roman Empire? Are all the territories in Gaul, Brittania, Iberia still Roman? Do they call themselves Roman? Do they keep their Roman culture? How long until they don't? There's some attempts like the Holy Roman Empire, but as the saying goes they were never really holy, roman or an empire.

[@ssjwes]

That one guy killed "Jeor "fucking" Mormont" and drank from his skull.

[@vexalantron1663]

that belter you thought was familiar was in Vikings he was between those who went to Iceland, i think

[@efetherman]

I have a phobia of scientists who think nuclear weapons are scientific instruments. But I'm weird.

[@smockboy]

Lithium has a really *low* density Calvin - its comparable in density to pine wood.

[@alcor7104]

And it'd be *extremely* valuable in a high-tech society like those shown in The Expanse. Almost all lithium in the universe was created in the Big Bang, and stellar nucleosynthesis usually jumps from hydrogen or helium straight to carbon. Only way to make new lithium would be in a lab and certain novae in very specific conditions.

[@barneyrubble4293]

Man, you can't call a ball of lithium with exclusively wasteland habitat "New Terra" cmon people.

[@16cheahjm1]

10:24 Yes. Yes it would.

[@kampfkeks6619]

This is where the amazon money gets to shine

[@stephenpodeschi6052]

laws are only rules and guidelines that work if you are willing to abide by them and the authorities are strong enough to enforce them....

[@01000001011100100111]

You can create your own ecosystems in space ships and stations that would never need contact with planets for anything ever again.

[@robertwinslade3104]

technically true, but there would not be nearly enough diversity or quantity for the ecosystem to be very stable, and the conditions would be so unlike those the organisms evolved for on Earth; it would need constant management

[@01000001011100100111]

@@robertwinslade3104 You can replicate the gravity, the air pressure, the heat, the light. It's more than doable. In fact I think it's almost an inevitability.

[@Kuhmuhnistische_Partei]

@@01000001011100100111 I don't know. That botanist Prax mentions in the show how complex nature is. And because they can't dublicate nature in all it's complexity and diversity, their ecosystems on stations remain "simple complex systems". Which means those are complex systems, but if some minor part of it fails, it causes a cascade of failures and in the end the whole system is destroyed. Other than nature on Earth where failures often have their costs, but the system as a whole is really hard to destroy.

[@kampfkeks6619]

Drummers arguments are much more based on the physiological. She doesn't want them to colonise because with abundance and settled tribes people like her will soon die out and the cycle of space faring people being lesser people will start all over again.

[@kampfkeks6619]

She however accepts that people have free will to choose and you have met her counter part by now already

[@elzar760]

Waiting for the Ori to start coming through the ring .

[@Psykochic916]

Yeah!!!!

[@biocapsule7311]

FYI: The major difference of Book 4 and Season 4 is that Naomi doesn't land on Ilus in the book. Her story mainly revolve around the orbit of Ilus, and the orbit portion was cut out but wasn't all that impactful to make a difference, it is a reasonable alteration to keep everything on land and still include all the members. The difference was important however because Belters simply do not land on major gravity well. Naomi or any other Belters simply can't survive for long on any of the major planets. Also, it's not that no one believe in Columbus, so much as no many people think it's worth the expenses to fund the exploration.

[@olentie]

I agree that the show did a great job adapting book 4, so that omitting what happened in orbit was seamless and kept a great coherent story. What happened in orbit and how it effected what happened in the planet was actually a great part of the story though. I'm glad that the show didn't feel like it was lacking without that part though.

[@biocapsule7311]

@@olentie The orbital story wasn't really all that impactful story wise. That's why it's not all that hard to cut it out, or transfer to extras or off screen characters. It consist mainly of extra complications, making more problems for the characters to solve, but doesn't change what is require of them. It's basically side quests. The story overall is essentially the same, except without orbital parts.

[@olentie]

@@biocapsule7311 it's all subjective, and I disagree. It impacted actions in the ground, and getting off the planet later. I definitely agree to disagree though

[@biocapsule7311]

@@olentie Certainly, when you alter something, other things always change. Agree to disagree indeed. I just want to point out that what it change didn't altered any of the core points of the book at all, that why I consider those things cut having no real impact. Murtry & Holden gets their face to face about civilization, Miller & Amos gets the same resolution, what was suppose to fail, succeeds to the dismay of some, with the same sets of very horrible things (water & worms) being resolve. lol

[@sabkobds]

Isn't this about surviving on the planet a little bit "spoilerish"?

[@thomasmain5986]

Earth overpopulated with only a limited number of jobs, Mars why terraform there are 1,301 potential habitable planets, Belters not enough air not enough water and since Ganymede got trashed not enough food. Is there going to be a rush to colonise, you betcha.

[@billross7245]

New Terra/ Ilus is an Earth-size planet and apparently titanium rich, so why is that tiny spec of land so important to both parties? You would think there would be room for both Belters and RCE like an ocean or two separating them.

[@garethking5322]

Well I think their claims are each for the whole planet, not just the land they are on.

[@Reedstilt]

In the books, there's a large lithium (not titanium) deposit near the site of First Landing, rather than the whole planet "being made of lithium" as Avarasala describes it in the show. If Avasarala were accurate, then the two Belters and the RCE could settle different parts of the planet and both mine lithium there for a long time without major competition. But since it's actually* only in that one spot, that makes that particular location far more valuable to both parties. *There's actually a lot more lithium than that one location, but its buried a lot deeper underground and, at this point, no one knows about it yet.

[@billross7245]

@@Reedstilt The show should have stuck to the books to set up the conflict better. Also in the book, Holden's primary mission was as an official mediator and second to investigate the PM. The mediator role was left out of the show.

[@Reedstilt]

@@billross7245 It's also a shame that we don't explicitly get the real reason Avasarala and Johnson chose Holden to be the mediator. We kind of get a bizarro-reaction from Avasarala along those lines eventually in the show, so I won't spoil it for anyone who hasn't seen it. But it's clear that while she would have liked a certain outcome she didn't plan on it happening from the start like her book counterpart did.

[@davis.fourohfour]

I just noticed: they added in wind noises for ships in vacuum, and laser pew-pews that sound like battleship guns from WWII. Arg. Always WWII metaphors.

[@fabiosilveira8571]

Rail gun!

[@emmanuelbaj3944]

Remember the Cant

[@klappstuhl4370]

"Yea! Remember the C*nt!" * fast whisper from the side * "...oh, Cant', whoops."

[@Bayard1503]

The ignorance in that Mongolian example is painful. Really. Making them be like some locust invasion...

[@elvisibra]

there is no ignorance, they probed those systems, they are not going blind

[@MissLatteholic]

5:56 this is such a r/woooosh moment 😅

[@efetherman]

Is there a Veteran discount? Disabled Vet discount, asking for me.

[@Shibo77]

"That is not how the human do", zefrank1 fan?

[@efetherman]

Ok so the Belters there are from Ganymede, remember May/Prax planet, and omg Aaron doing the Avasarala logic on us. But they had no place to go in Sol system, except to be refugees, so they risked death from the UN to get there. They find Lithium. UN Corps show up to take the lithium with a UN piece of paper. Colonialism.

[@efetherman]

I'm with the lowda.

[@imperialinquisitormordecai9688]

Lol i can't wait until the eye needle shot, it's going to be amazing

[@spiral5650]

Dude! Spoilers and setting expectations. Not cool.

[@exmachin3926]

I honestly forgot about that.

[@chewieknievel8439]

It’s not a plot point but still, don’t spoil the show! Let them experience it the way we did.

[@dermathze700]

@@spiral5650 They don't read the comments, and if you haven't watched the show you should be aware that people will spoil in the comments.

[@dermathze700]

@@spiral5650 No, I'm literally just warning you that people WILL spoil in Blind Wave comment sections and you can't do anything about it. I have been spoiled multiple times through comments for series I watch along with Blind Wave, and learned to live with not reading comments.

[@kualarompin589]

Here in Malaysia and the Phillipines, there is tribe that live solely on boats in the sea. They are called Badjau, the sea gypsie. It's part of their culture not to live on the land. The only time they come to an island or the land is to get essential supplies like fresh water and fire wood, and to trade. Calvin is wrong to equate Belters that disagree to of living on a planet to not wanting of free school. Completely wrong scenario. Belters are Belters because they live in space. It is part of their culture, way of lives. They can't call themselves Belters if they live on a planet.

[@Luzarioth]

Niel de'grass Tyson disagrees with you: Humans aren't explorers. There isn't a single point in history where "exploration" had been the driver.

[@alcor7104]

The Voyager Program would disagree with you, as does the New Horizons program and all the others launching probes to interstellar space.

[@BhlackBishop]

🤔

[@Luzarioth]

@@alcor7104 Just google Niels talk about it, ofc the voice of some random guy on the internet (me) doesn't mean much... but if the Head of the Hayden Planetarium and the guy "responsible" to kick Pluto of the list of Planets... you might think more openly about it ;P

[@Kuhmuhnistische_Partei]

@@Luzarioth I mean, it's a smart guy and all, but I think human nature and history aren't really his expertise. And smart people can say a lot of stupid stuff outside their fields. But I would say humans aren't natural explorers, because a lot of stuff isn't really in the realm of "human nature". So yeah, it's not in our DNA to explore, but there were definitely a lot of persons and organizations who where really interested in exploring and mapping the world. You could say exploration was never the driver, because they always just hoped to find ressources and get wealthy or something like that, but exploration for ressources or for new ways to already known ressources/trade partners is still exploration.

[@efetherman]

All that naming at then end of last ep, not one of you said, "New Terra", amateur's!

[@lykan2]

Still a great Season but rather weak compared to the ones before and after....same with the books.

[@showtown7563]

Is that show worth watching? Started the first episode but I got frustrated because the sound is not clear. It is almost the music and everything else is louder than the dialogue

[@MoviesAndTvShowsAreSubjective]

expanse is the best sci fi show imo. Just watch till episode 5. if you don't like it then the show is not for you.

[@robertwinslade3104]

The Expanse is GREAT, it starts out okay, but it gets better and better as it progresses. It is an underrated gem of a tv show

[@Psykochic916]

Yes!!! Absolutely worth every second. I've watched the series about 15 times. Lol.

[@Kennia1998]

Its literally the best, don't give up, keep watching

[@Zero11s]

@@MoviesAndTvShowsAreSubjective sci-fi is fantasy, there is no science in it (gas in a vacuum)

[@szeltovivarsydroxan9944]

Not gonna lie, I personally didn't like season 4. But, man, am I pumped until they get to season 5, which is amazing IMO!

[@anonymes2884]

Yeah, 4 is my least favourite personally (and agreed, 5 is amazing) BUT i've often found I look back more fondly when I do so through the lens of these guys' reactions so we'll see.

[@Adventuresundead302]

Yeah season 3 and 5 are the best seasons.

[@2o7o7dragon]

I am of the opposite opinion to you on the seasons, but I'm hopeful that their reactions will make you like S4 more as I'm hoping their S5 reactions do the same for me :D

[@Adventuresundead302]

Yeah that’s true their reactions are amazing.

[@Kennia1998]

I love all seasons 😍

[@RUNTHROUGHDATAPE]

The Europeans were the deadly Aliens lol They brung the diseases and conquered those who were there so thats a bad analogy IMO. Yes it must have been scary exploring but Aaron was right Columbus didnt find deadly technology that was far beyond his knowledge and kept going he found water and fertile land and kept going lol SO it snot a good analogy for several reasons.

[@ninethreefivesix]

This is the worst season, but it's still good. Something about it just felt off.

[@ahdvd]

God damn guys, I realise it’s a reaction, but every once in a while when there’s a beautiful moment in the show like Naomi’s first steps on Illus I really do wish you would not be bickering over something absolutely nothing to do with the show and just STFU and just take it in. You missed an amazing character moment.

[@belinda35_77]

Absolutely agree! I don't understand why they feel the need to be completely obnoxious (not all of them, but you know who)in every reaction. I could never watch anything with Eric or Aaron!

[@doorran]

people who don't want school to be free because it will never be "free" we'll have to pay for it in taxes.. meaning now not only did I have to pay for my own and my daughters tuition but now I gotta pay for even people who sneak into the country illegally as well.. at the expense of money for my mortgage... I have no problem with "free" as long as I never have to pay for taxes again in my life.

[@hyperionman420]

Well. If that's the case, I have a feeling you'll find a lot more progressive solutions more agreeable than you'd realize.

[@iarba]

I hate this season. Back to Holden absolutely every time shooting a thing he does not understand

[@justinsullivan8040]

Uh that CGI is terrible

[@grelkie]

Ok

[@Cydonius1]

begone, troll

[@robertwinslade3104]

There was like 1 shot in this episode where the CGI was kind of mediocre (that shot where it pulls back from the Roci having just landed on Ilus). The rest was great

[@AngeloBarovierSD]

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[@Adventuresundead302]

Okay and?