Bloodborne Cut Content - Underground Library Deleted Lore - Development History

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Will there be any Demon's souls remake discoveries (if you have the time ofc)?

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[@Lunartic_]

At first I thought this was going to be about the trap door in Byrgenwerth and how it was going to lead to this underground library.

[@Guchiandra]

Same

[@neatigloo]

I know, same here. Lance teased a massive video years ago about "Upsidedown Byrgenwerth." Still waiting! But I understand the delay it's probably a lot of work and Lance prefers to present material fully and proper.

[@Wilczyca27]

​@neatigloo unfortunately if I remember correctly the Upside-down place turned out to be a fluke, it's just a texture for reflecting the building in the water below lmao

[@fire-typhoon123]

On my 1st playthrough i spent so much time looking for a key to that trap door in byrgenwerth only to find that it's cut content lol

[@pingamalinga]

Thats how they fed Rom. Once a month a student was selected to go down there and throw raw meat at Rom. It was a one way mission.

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Manifest a pc patch as well

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It has been manifested. Emulation is like a dream of a console, I decided.

[@torgo_]

Damn, for a moment when I saw the thumbnail I thought this was a video about that mysterious trapdoor in Byrgenwerth. It still creeps me out each time I see it. Even if it's just there for aesthetic reasons, I still really want to see what horrors lurk under there.

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Let's fucking go, I'll drop anything for some newly discovered Bloodborne stuff.

[@Tumbledweeb]

But what if you're carrying a jug of the Old Blood? You're not gonna drop that, are you?

[@edwardnygma8533]

@@Tumbledweeb Time to chug and run, then.

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How about you drop some money

[@edwardnygma8533]

@@Big_Dai Gotta have some to drop some.

[@Tumbledweeb]

@@edwardnygma8533 Yeah or... like.... Put it down somewhere, carefully?

[@seedmole]

RIP green glow on the lever, we hardly knew ye

[@spiridiums]

It's so interesting to me how the paths changed entirely to solve a problem with loading textures. It was a very clever idea to put a room that forced players to stop and explore to allow the game a chance to finish loading. It makes me wonder how many other places changed over the course of development due to similar problems?

[@Cethinn]

The chance to explore likely isn't part of the solution to the technical issues, since you can still choose not to and sprint through, but the ladder for sure slows things down and makes them more consistent. I imagine they had an idea for including more information anyway, and since they needed to redesign some of this high traffic path anyway they decided to put more stuff here.

[@nnnnnnnnn8888]

In my opinion: Bloodborne was their new entry into ps4 gen and it make sense that bb and ds3 has many loading zones and texture poppings, since they were updating the engine while also developing their games. I wonder what their first ps5 game would look like ?!

[@basicosmopolitan]

I agree with ​@@Cethinn, although the room might helped, I believe it was also a conscient decision to add the library. If rooms were added only for performance, we would see less content from FromSoftware games in more modern hardware, like Sekiro and Elden Ring. But they are still packed with content, even more so, I would say

[@WitchLuna7]

I'm sad the current gen still hasn't fully kicked in. SSDs becoming standard will fundamentally change how level design works. I always found this little segment a bit weird in the game, same with that pointless cutscene when you enter the Chapel, but it all makes sense now. People often mention the stereotypical tight spaces and caves to hide loadings, but this video shows how subtle these things can be. Imagine how many nooks and crannies and enemy encounters were slightly altered to accommodate loading limitations.

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hell yeah

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hell yeah

[@metalmonster9536]

hell yeah

[@Sleepizgudd]

hell yeah

[@neatigloo]

Thank you, Lance!! But I gotta say, for a second there, the thumbnail had me thinking we were finally going to get the fabled "Upsidedown Byrgenwerth" video. shhhhhhh.....

[@minespatch]

I was wondering the same thing 😆

[@LastProtagonist]

Two weeks before release!? No wonder so many of the note translations are scuffed

[@DebugMenu]

Here is the original Japanese of those notes: 10012002 素晴らしい交わりの考察 聖堂街、下教会の先、焼かれた旧市街 そこは聖杯の在り処となり、故に交わりの可能性がある 10012003 素晴らしい交わりの考察 分からない。それが何を指すものか。その先に何が待つのか 私に与えられたのは、ただ素晴らしい予感だけだ 10012004 素晴らしい交わりの考察 けれどビルゲンワースの蜘蛛が、あらゆる儀式を隠している ひどいことだ。頭の震えがとまらない

[@TriforceWisdom64]

​@DebugMenu It's funny how in that build they briefly translated it as "liaise" instead of "commune." I don't think I've ever even seen anyone use the word liaise before.

[@DebugMenu]

@@TriforceWisdom64 oh wow, it’s an extremely normal word in English.

[@TriforceWisdom64]

@DebugMenu I've definitely seen liaison plenty, but as an American nobody seems to use liaise.

[@kurgo_]

@@TriforceWisdom64 As a non-native English speaker I had to actually look up "liaise" because I'd never seen it before in my life lol

[@kalsizzle]

Never would have imagined such a small part of the game would go through so many revisions.

[@fenderbeen]

This was very interesting to watch. I liked the stone textures of the preliminary library design. And as intended, I stopped in the library and looked around the first time I got there. I assume the cutscene for the chapel also helped with this problem. I think the second note about Old Yharnam could have been kept to nudge the player along the expectation of multiple paths in Cathedral Ward, but I guess they replaced it by having Gehrman send the player to the “valley hamlet”. That instruction was vague to me the first time, but I eventually figured it out. I guess the cryptic nature of what he says helps add to the mystery.

[@kanzetic2146]

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[@gabidimitrescu]

Dude, I've been bingewatching all older videos of Bloodborne cut content etc, I DID NOT EXPECT A NEW ONE

[@Big_Dai]

It's crazy to think things we might love could have been shaped by.. deadlines.

[@Cethinn]

Sometimes things we love are improved by limitations. Usually things we hate happen because of deadlines too soon. BB seems to have been in the perfect position. Still waiting for that PC release though...

[@GG-ou7it]

@@Cethinnyou will get an unfaithful bluepoint remake for 80 dollars 😂

[@brokedownsystem]

not unlike a lot of engineering projects as well. as the old adage goes “there’s never enough time to do it right, and always enough time to do it wrong.” 😅

[@brokedownsystem]

@@GG-ou7it is the demon’s souls remake really that bad? I guess I can see what you’re talking about…the atmosphere doesn’t quite line up with the original.

[@AubergineWomans]

​@@brokedownsystem The only reason it isn't more heavily criticised is that not many people have a real connection to demon souls compare to dark souls and bloodborne.

[@Chainsawwed]

I always thought this little area was extremely strange. To have to climb down a ladder to get to the cemetery from the chapel seems like a failure on the architects. I think they should have gone for an elevator instead of having a giant gate blocking a room with a ladder in it.

[@Jonas-ob2sh]

Same thing probably happened with the path after Dancer of the boreal valley where instead of a path we saw in the alpha version, they included a ladder instead, which is bizarre way to construct a path to a castle where nobles of Lothric live.

[@moongoalie2410]

Realistically, it probably would been more stairs, given that it was more convenient due to the pathway leading to a cemetery. An elevator would be too cumbersome, and really slow the process if one was considered. Imagine if the building caught aflame, and your only escape exit was hindered by an elevator.

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Bloodborne was the first game I bought on PS4, and the last game I played on PS4

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I literally looked at your youtube page yesterday and thought man it's been so long I hope you grace us with a new video some day.. and here we are. Thanks man

[@KaineMikulas]

Bloodborne is the new Spider-Man PS1 with how much unused content is being found so many years after release lol. Lance, this is amazing work, thank you!

[@jennisaurus715]

Just joined as thanks for all the insight! Seeing the pre-release versions always gives me inspiration for modding

[@Giru]

I didn't expect you to make another bloodborne cut content video! Fascinating stuff on display here

[@HealthyMaxwellRoth]

Man, we will never hit the bottom of what this gem has to offer

[@gabionsquared7858]

If the whole point of the room was to slightly slow down the player, i like the addition of a chest so close to the critical path that it's impossible *not* to get the prompt to open it. It's like a set of jangling keys forcing the player into the opening animation

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[@Radical_Rainbow]

4:14 Insight: 99

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This is the true bloodborne experience.

[@metalmonster9536]

Behold! The opened up sky!

[@AbysswalkerD]

I love these videos so goddamn much. I just hope the next one isn't another year away.

[@prosaic.7944]

Imagine, lecture halls and this underground library being at the bottom of Byrgenwerth, leading to the top layer of the chalice dungeons.

[@adlaiblack0]

OMG... Just this morning I was rewatching your videos. So nice to have a new one out.

[@BeengoVEVO]

My Hunter’s Mark Tattoo started glowing, it called me here

[@Ted4321]

Hell yeah,finally,I still remember when you teased this

[@ZombiezKey]

I doubt it works, but when you mentioned the first version of the network test had a key named “great bridge key” I couldn’t help but think about the “closed.” door that definitely leads to cleric beast from the other side. IF by some miracle it does actually open that door in that version, or perhaps an even earlierrrrrr build. It would totally make sense why it got repurposed, and the other path was scrapped, because literally nobody is remembering to go back to that area and try that key on that door BEFORE trying the lever in gascoigne’s room, which consumes the key.

[@DebugMenu]

In builds where you can open that door, it doesn’t need a key. It’s just a normal “does not open from this side” door. You can open it from the other side.

[@ZombiezKey]

@@DebugMenu Oh cool! I never knew it was actually 100% confirmed to be openable at one point. thought it was always assumption.

[@Tumbledweeb]

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[@lampazzu]

So, those gigantic infinite ladders that takes you from forbidden woods poison cave to the clinic, I imagine they are there to slow down the player and load and unload areas? It would make sense now, because those ladders are not fun and usually From makes fun stuff.

[@amberhernandez]

I thought they were quite a thrill.

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[@Schreik]

nothing like drinking your morning coffee and discovering a newly uploaded video by lance uncovering new bloodborne cut content

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10 years this year and we still finding new things on this game

[@OXhuls]

Danke!

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duuuuuuuuude

[@OXhuls]

@@DebugMenuI’d do the same to Sony but they are to busy remastering remasters at this moment. Can’t wait for more bloodborne.

[@Mathren1]

Huh, I guess that partially explains why the way into Oedon Chapel is a ladder as opposed to something a bit more ceremonial looking, like the winding stairway. Always thought it was weird, logically speaking, that there's a big gate you need a key for, which then leads to... a sewer/drainage room? And then a ladder up to a small library, which then leads into the actual chapel itself.

[@GoToBedSheeva]

I like the physicality of pushing the gate open tbh. I love me that heavy door pushing animation ❤

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One of the only moments where I'm grateful I wasn't able to sleep. Welcome back!

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Happy to support, thanks for all the treasured Insight Lance!

[@SkaerKrow]

Great video Lance, thanks for your continued efforts to uncover the unseen elements of Bloodborne.

[@ThatsMySkill]

its been 9 years... for 9 years straight there hasnt been a single day where i didnt think about this game. its my absolute favorite. you could say im obsessed with it. thats why i appreciate any cut content you find and upload cause it gives interesting insights into the developement of bloodborne. thanks again for the stuff you do lance!

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[@scifistalgia]

There's something kinda funny about the warpchair just spawning in 2:24

[@amberhernandez]

"Man, that was a tough fight! Wanna take a seat?"

[@DakovP]

Im always up for more content and history for my favorite game.

[@Sigh95]

Every time Lance uploads a new Bloodborne thing I think, “that’s gotta be the last of the discovered cut content, right?” Then he comes back with more

[@ulmxn]

it is still INSANE to me that Bloodborne looks so good even in 2024, even when I play it at 30fps.

[@lionheart4424]

We are eating good tonight, boys!

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But is Lance? Donate!

[@bercl]

almost 10 years later, still cant get enough of this game

[@dustnoiseplays]

Its amazing to see this cut content that would be hidden forever but instead thanks to you, we can see more little bits about this wonderful game. It must be a pain to manage and get it to work, thats very impressive. Its very interesting to see how development work in comparison with the retail version!

[@amberhernandez]

There once was a studious guy named Lance McDonald. He went back to school to become Advanced McDonald. He used the electron microscope, they called him Enhance McDonald. He discussed his theories and became Perchance McDonald. He looked at the wrong guy like Glance McDonald, got into a argument, took up a Stance McDonald, and his opponent didn't stand a Chance McDonald. Lance was a good guy, so they went out for drinks and discussed Finance McDonald. A particularly pretty lady was on the floor, so he stepped out for a Dance McDonald. The two fell in love at first Glance McDonald, had quite the Romance McDonald, moved out to France McDonald, and lived happily ever after McDonald.

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How are you so amazing? Like seriously, it's been years and you're still dropping legend level shit on us!

[@nightfallalicorn4246]

It's amazing how things can rapidly change during the development process. I wouldn't had thought there be a number of revisions for that area due to hardware limitations.

[@JohnCampbell45]

I'm going to call your videos "Sublime Liaisons" from now on. 💜

[@Sunborne187]

I've always had the head canon that these previous versions of the game were actually previous versions of the nightmare/the hunt.

[@captainkeller2792]

Wtf you uploaded? like 3 weeks ago i just checked because i went down the bloodborne hole again. NIce to see you back for bb content, thought we already found everything.

[@undefeatedsaber9543]

I love seeing new Bloodborne content

[@pingamalinga]

Really cool. I had always assumed the initial pushing the door open to Cath Ward was used in order to load the area. Interesting how it went through a few iterations prior to release. Then you think about the literal Great Bridge door behind Cleric Beast which leads to the Ward and you wonder what exactly was the first plan?

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Babe wake up, lance just posted

[@BTR-NOODLE]

Thanks for the amazing content calm and composed Lance 🙏

[@shahilheartbreaker5736]

Awesome work as always

[@gtamaster667]

A master of his craft arrives again to bless us! Excellent work as always 💪

[@AKAProm]

It's always amazing how Bloodborne continues to give even though we're approaching its ten year anniversary.

[@kobzie_16]

I noticed there was a chair to sit in rather than the lantern to get back to the hunters dream. Cool

[@Sharky1986]

Man, I find this stuff so fascinating. From probably thinks noone would be interested in seeing this process but I love it. I only understand Fromsoft games once I watch all the cut content anyway lol

[@ManEaterBrainBug]

Maybe the Underground Library used to be in the trap door in Byrgenwerth. It would makes sense since the note speaks of Rom. They could have moved the room over to Oedon to fix the loading issue and thats why the trap door remains inaccessable.

[@aryados1520]

Crazy, I was checking your channel out yesterday and wondering why you haven't uploaded in ages and bang there is new content. Thanks mate!

[@fujitafunk]

It's crazy how this game is 9 years old and we're still finding stuff out about it.

[@BEYONDTHESPIDERFILMS]

I don't care how big or small. I'm always down for some cut BB content! Keep up the great work!

[@KosOrSomeSayKosmo]

This is a great example of technical limitations giving rise to creative developments. I always loved the mystery of the underground library.

[@kaijujohnny]

Amazing that Bloodborne still has secrets to discover. Thanks for sharing this with us! 👏

[@onii-chandaisuki5710]

I found that you can walk from Ieosefka's Clinic all the way to Advent Plaza (The One Reborn). If they needed to save processing power, they could have changed this, since you never ever actually need to walk this path directly.

[@DefecTec]

Bro no one is mentioning how he uploads after 9 months, return of the king

[@ricklubbers1526]

Oh my God. What a time to be alive.

[@PirateVampire]

if you look up from the tomb of oedon lamp there is a gate I don't think it lines up also from central yharnam you can't see the destroyed bridge where we find the monocular

[@Domkanis]

Thank you sooo much!!! ❤

What a nice surprise right before going to bed.

[@MUTANTACADEMYGAMING]

Watching Lance on Twitch Monday to Friday, free handfuls of coleslaw for all

[@BlazeStorm]

Don't forget the yoghurt!

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[@kingofstrangeness7014]

you knew what you were doing with that video picture

[@KezefTheDead]

We are graced with insight! Grants us eyes!

[@AllAndreasIs]

Fascinating! I've grown eyes, a plentitude, inside!

[@metalmonster9536]

That ladder and path always seemed awkward to me - a graveyard accesible from the chapel only through a sewer and a ladder. Now I can see why 😂

[@unaffectedbycardeffects9152]

The legend hast cometh back. Back again. Lance is back. Tell your friends.

[@somaicat]

I think I'm going to cry. Don't get me wrong I'm really happy to see a new upload and greatly appreciate your work, but I desperately need an answer to one of your earlier videos hinting at a connection between the lecture hall and the unopenable byrgenwerth ladder door. It's been bugging me for years. :( It seems hard to believe the ladder leads to the lecture hall, apart from there not being a corrisponding entrance in the lecture hall, the lecture hall has windows, and it makes no sense for an underground structure to have windows. I always wondered if maybe the lecture hall previously stood in the waking world where rom is in the present. It would explain why the bridge just drops off and perhaps. why the lecture hall is physically close to it in world coordinates. The doors to the lecture hall are also about the same width as the bridge. See how obsessed I am? I need to know :(

[@mwellnow5016]

I thought this video was gonna be about the trapdoor in Byrgenwerth, but it was still an awesome video! Crasy how late fromsoft is making such big changes.

[@maximussamael4117]

Podrias explorar la torre del reloj sobre laurence parece que esta modelada

[@RaanMar]

I think you can clearly see how Bloodborne was one of the most From Softwares polished games pretty much by how close the retail version is similar to alpha version. The games like DS2 or DS3 were pretty much changed 180 degrees from their original idea due to development issues and hence they ended up not being so good despite what people think.

[@maximussamael4117]

Can you please explore the clock tower above laurence in dlc i always wish see this place

[@SuperMaster000X]

hey the beginning noise is like the sound of what ps4 sounds everytime i play hahaha

[@bendybenbenderson]

Great video Lance & super interesting

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Holy FUCK new lance video lets FUCKING GOOOO

[@weltyfeline]

The hunt has just only begun

[@SyntaxDaemon]

Absolutely wonderful video. I do like the final form the best - though it is a bit strange if you think about it.

[@TheNecromorphkiller]

thought this as the hatch in byrgenwerth >:( still neat lance content

[@anonecki]

The great bridge key icon looks like a Mahjong tile to me lol

[@E.Humperdinck]

You're back! Nice!

[@DakovP]

waow..good to shee a great one shuch ash Fred coho.

[@E.Humperdinck]

@@DakovP Haha. I forgot we both watch these Bloodborne videos, homie. These videos are, to me, like what WALNUTSH are to Freddy Herbert.

[@DakovP]

Same, BB is my favorite game of all time@@E.Humperdinck

[@OrgusDin]

Well then you better go catch it! @@DakovP

[@DakovP]

QUIT CALLING @@OrgusDin

[@nightly6065]

what's that area in the end? doesn't seem familiar to me 👀

[@DebugMenu]

Next video

[@HighPriestFuneral]

I thought at first it was a Chalice Dungeon hallway, but the geometry looks a bit too crafted for that to be the case, hmm...

[@nightly6065]

@@DebugMenu nice always loving these bloodborne videos, my guess would its an early version of that poison cave in the forbidden woods

[@jankbunky4279]

​@@DebugMenuedging to this rn

[@NATIVE1179]

Kind of looks like the elevator cave exit in forbidden woods

[@grantharrison1715]

The content restoring goat has returned.

[@edward9674]

HOLD ON! A new Lance Video???