Blueback vs Greenback Speakers - Can you hear the difference??

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Rob Chapman

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@MrCrapheadist
@MrCrapheadist 6 жыл бұрын
It’s so funny how much difference a speaker makes, and yet people are going crazy over pick up magnets, tube companies, string gauge, fairy dust Etc.
@GlennMarshallRocks
@GlennMarshallRocks 5 жыл бұрын
What's actually funny is If you had ever experimented with any of those things, you would realize how much of a difference they each make to the sound, with the exception of fairy dust, which actually does nothing (so, don't waste your money on that)... everything else however (magnet strength, tube type and brand, string gauge and alloy used, etc.) ALL make a very significant and noticeable difference in the sound that comes out of those speakers. So, don't be discounting things you haven't tried yourself, and don't understand...
@ericbourne3116
@ericbourne3116 5 жыл бұрын
@@GlennMarshallRocks well, dude, obviously you dont know shit about fairy dust...
@bleached3360
@bleached3360 4 жыл бұрын
GlennMarshallRocks its not really noticeable to anyone but your eyesight
@jakerjohnson38
@jakerjohnson38 4 жыл бұрын
@@bleached3360 Your eyes must far outweigh your ear
@ilovecops5499
@ilovecops5499 3 жыл бұрын
NO! IF YU E LOOK CARFGULLY, YOUE, YES I SEDF YOUE, WILL SEE THE MICORPHONE SI SUPSEID E DOWNES. MAKE A HUUUUGE DIFFERENSES!!
@guitarnist
@guitarnist 7 жыл бұрын
If i had 2 AC15s, I would put a Blue Alnico in one and a Greenback in the other and balance the volume levels because the "both" sound is Awesome!!!!!
@fjrabon
@fjrabon 7 жыл бұрын
Steven Roberts I've seen people use one green and one blue in an AC30. Great sound. Supposedly that is what the creamback was designed to emulate.
@Sound8VisionVibe
@Sound8VisionVibe 5 жыл бұрын
Steven Roberts I have one of each in my AC15C2 and it sounds gorgeous.
@chrismonk8446
@chrismonk8446 4 жыл бұрын
I'm curious how they would sound together in a combo. Celestion says on their website that Eric Clapton had the speakers in his Twinolux 2x12 replaced with a AlNiCo blue & Greenback.
@Chasetenny
@Chasetenny 9 ай бұрын
​@@Sound8VisionVibe,"'zzz
@joshuabenton3785
@joshuabenton3785 8 жыл бұрын
once again the editors of this video are killing it! those little quips you add in are amazing. ON another note: excellent video. I like both for different reasons, but the presence and bite of the Blue are quite lovely.
@BadgerFishing4life
@BadgerFishing4life 8 жыл бұрын
I love all the history and facts and all the added value that comes with these Chappers and the Captain videos! Great job guys! Kepp doing what you are doing!
@Les537
@Les537 7 жыл бұрын
I own an AC15 with a greenback. I've been completely happy with it - until now. To me the blue sounds like the green if you scraped all the mud off. It sounds much more usable in a mix or with a band.
@hosoiarchives4858
@hosoiarchives4858 3 жыл бұрын
Voxes should never have anything but a blue. Its a travesty
@KingKook
@KingKook 2 жыл бұрын
The Blue most definitely is THE sound to be desired from the Vox. It's just not a "Vox" without it. Green is a nice sound, tho. But Blue is it.
@madmod
@madmod 2 жыл бұрын
@@KingKook Higher gain stuff seams to lean towards the green, the blue seems to be better suited for pushed loud cleans.
@vincentl.9469
@vincentl.9469 3 ай бұрын
@@KingKook the only thing is a 12 " blue weighs 9.5 pounds...and they are not cheap due to people saying how great they are !
@Voxman5
@Voxman5 7 жыл бұрын
I did a side by side test of the latest AC30 with Green backs next to an AC30 with Alnico Blues and I loved them both. the Blues were MUCH louder. As you hear on this video they are brasher with more top end, and they break noticeably earlier than the Greenbacks. In the mix, Blues will cut through anything but may need 'taming' a bit. But the Greenbacks are much smoother and warmer. I also tried an experiment by putting a 7-band EQ in the FX loop of the AC30 (where it acts as a clean boost) with Greenbacks to see if I could get close to the Blues. What was interesting is I could use the EQ 'level' control to easily make up the volume difference and with some minor tweaking of the EQ get very very close to the brasher more treble Blues tone but I couldn't get it to match that earlier break-up feel. I then put the EQ in front of the amp, where it acts as more of a gain boost, and I could get more of that earlier break-up feel. I then reversed the experiment, and put the EQ in the FX loop of the 'Blues' AC30 version to see if I could get a more mellower, smoother Greenback tone. Up to a certain point, I could dial (or more accurately 'slide') the top end out and get a much warmer tone but couldn't quite capture the smoothness/warmth of the Greenback due to the early 'Blues' break-up. So, which do I prefer? i loved the idea in the vid of having two AC15 (or even AC30) amps and running both together/switching for the best of both worlds but for most of us that's impractical (cost/weight etc). I love them both for different things. But if I was buying a single AC30 I'd go Greenback because it's a lot cheaper (esp in a 2x12 AC30) easier to make these sound nearer the Blues than it is to make the Blues sound nearer the Greens, and as I play mainly classic rock and blues I'd prefer the warmer Greens tone more of the time. So I think what you play is the big thing to think about as to which is best for you and if you like the Blues tone but only have a Greens budget, then try the EQ comparison trick & see if it works for you. Only thing I'd point out is that I don't think the AC15 Custom has an FX loop, so you can only use an EQ at the front end (I preferred it in the AC30 FX loop). The extra cost of one Alnico Blue isn't so bad in the 1x12" AC15 so I think if you're going AC15 again it's more of a tonal preference than budget consideration.
@Momentum88
@Momentum88 3 жыл бұрын
Extremely helpful comment! Thanks!
@robertrowe4477
@robertrowe4477 2 жыл бұрын
@@Momentum88 I totally agree
@KingKook
@KingKook 2 жыл бұрын
EQ! That's my answer for most guitar/amp/tone related questions. EQ'ing can solve sooOOoo many issues, plus offers sooOOoo many tone options, it's absurd how little EQ pedals are considered or appreciated. But I do, dammit! 😎
@SheikhN-bible-syndrome
@SheikhN-bible-syndrome 2 жыл бұрын
I know that the blue back with a 4" graphine cone mid-range and graphine cone 2" tweeter ran off of a class AB amp with a damping factor of well over 800 and using my tube headphone amplifier as my preamp to flavor the music before it gets to the amp sounds amazing for music and is so loud with the volume knob hardly up just 2 or 3 clicks .
@WolfofNightMusic
@WolfofNightMusic Жыл бұрын
That is a very helpful comment. I have an eq pedal and tend to roll off a little on bass and add little highs with a les Paul and pair of hum-buckers. My fav amp is the ac30 but close second for me is Marshall jcm 800.
@docreynolds4697
@docreynolds4697 6 жыл бұрын
I love how you guys produce your video in stereo to help identify the amps as well. Good choice!
@MuddyFenders
@MuddyFenders 5 жыл бұрын
Very glad I stumbled upon you guys. Entertaining and informative thanks!
@jessd1952
@jessd1952 7 жыл бұрын
the blue rang with such nice overtones. it's so much more than just more mids and highs. magical.
@The2bdkid
@The2bdkid 8 жыл бұрын
Did I watch the Captain tune to drop D?
@harleyadam4813
@harleyadam4813 8 жыл бұрын
Yes. Yes, you did.
@Dagger_323
@Dagger_323 8 жыл бұрын
He's done it before
@Mohindrex
@Mohindrex 8 жыл бұрын
+Dagger 323 so the prophecies are true then............I must consult the elders.......
@Mohindrex
@Mohindrex 8 жыл бұрын
***** Yes. They approve, but they have but one humble request; they require.......................................................................................................................................... more cowbell.
@kewlbns69
@kewlbns69 8 жыл бұрын
dude you just made my day! the cowbell joke never gets old! :D
@borskilad
@borskilad 7 жыл бұрын
Love the editing in these videos, its done very well and very funny!
@dale8809
@dale8809 7 жыл бұрын
I learn so much from these guys. thank you! Cheers from USA
@IbervilleMusic
@IbervilleMusic 7 жыл бұрын
From what I hear, the Blue has more mid and high end definition, more bass. It's more open. The green back is low mid/mid focused with the highs muffled a bit and not a lot of bass . With that said, I think they both sound great! I think I'd prefer the blue for trio work and the green back for bigger ensembles, to take less space in the frequency spectrum.
@curtiswilson3569
@curtiswilson3569 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t even know the difference, despite having a AC with the greenback. I was worried I would wish I had the blue, but after watching this comparison, I really enjoy the bluesy depth of the green. To me the speakers are almost as different as the sound of a single coil vs a humbuckers. The blue has highs and open sound, the green has a more mid range almost muddier sound. I prefer humbuckers over single coils, so maybe that’s why I prefer the green.
@guitarwizard1989
@guitarwizard1989 2 жыл бұрын
You might be onto something. The greenback sounded more subtle to me while the blue sounded brighter to me. I like single coils more than humbuckers for my guitar playing.
@Bobby_Digital37
@Bobby_Digital37 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. I just played through an AC30 at guitar center with the green backs was blown away by how great it sounds! Most of the demos I’ve seen are players using the alnico blue which is a speaker I don’t care for, but with the green backs it’s a go!
@PhattSpicer
@PhattSpicer 2 жыл бұрын
Looking for a sensibly sized amp for gigging as I have a small car.. Is the ac15 green or blue loud enough for an acoustic duo who adds electric guitar to a handful of songs for gigs in regular sized pubs? Our PA handles acoustics/vocals/mandolin etc.. Cheers. I use my fender hotrod but want to down size but not on volume.
@curtiswilson3569
@curtiswilson3569 2 жыл бұрын
@@PhattSpicer Its loud.. not quite as loud as my hotrod deluxe, but more than enough to fill a large room even over other instruments.
@marcospintor1333
@marcospintor1333 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I’m a single coil fanboy and I prefer the alnico blues. I like bright and punchy. So i think you’re right
@FromAshToPhoenix
@FromAshToPhoenix 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this show! Thanks. Its really entertaining! Respect to you! -Dante
@kenb.1829
@kenb.1829 6 жыл бұрын
Have you ever tried Bareback? That's how I wound up with my first daughter.
@TMillsMusic
@TMillsMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Best comment on here! Deserves more likes
@Atomic1710
@Atomic1710 4 жыл бұрын
They have with eachother
@mattstarf4294
@mattstarf4294 4 жыл бұрын
@@TMillsMusic Might be the greatest comment to grace the comments section of KZbin!
@Blesstheautmn
@Blesstheautmn 3 жыл бұрын
And Creamback is the reason I don’t have a daughter.
@mariusfletcher3483
@mariusfletcher3483 3 жыл бұрын
@@Blesstheautmn that's gold haha
@ThatBaritoneGuitarGuy
@ThatBaritoneGuitarGuy 8 жыл бұрын
Personally, I would get a 2x12, and use one of each speaker. Or in a 4x12, the speakers would be in X configuration. That would give you the perfect blend of tone.
@ravenslaves
@ravenslaves 8 жыл бұрын
For those of us who played Vox amps _before_ all of the reissues (a lot of those early reissues were just...not good) The Alnico speakers sound like a Vox _should_ sound like. Not necessarily _better_, just more "Voxy".
@terrytamberg2000
@terrytamberg2000 3 жыл бұрын
I watched this video a couple of years ago and just came back to it today because I was thinking about changing the speaker in my Deluxe Reverb reissue to an Alnico. Currently I have a Fawn Version that comes with a Greenback speaker. After listening to this clip I will just keep the Greenback, it has a bit of a fuller sound which might be better for rhythm playing but still does a pretty good job for solos with a little pedal boost. This was a good video guys, thank you. I'm sure you will continue to get comments for a long time.
@maham593
@maham593 7 жыл бұрын
Mad respect to you guys and the editing involved, so amusing! Blue back is much clearer I think
@alexpenny9416
@alexpenny9416 7 жыл бұрын
in all of my years of playing, i never realised what a huge difference what speakers used makes to the tone. that dual amp tone is just beautiful!!
@hoboroadie4623
@hoboroadie4623 2 жыл бұрын
Why struggle to decide which one sounds better if you can get a Lehle P-Split and run them both. I have discovered that three is my minimum, but you have to be there to feel it.
@thephoenixcycle8854
@thephoenixcycle8854 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah me neither. I only learned that looking for brutal death metal speakers and sure as shit its true. This demonstrate this as well.
@user-pi2xl4jw3e
@user-pi2xl4jw3e 8 жыл бұрын
Captain Lee making music? Shut up and take my money.
@Dropaprayer
@Dropaprayer 8 жыл бұрын
Right?!
@RedroomStudios
@RedroomStudios 8 жыл бұрын
obviously you are new here.
@pablogriswold421
@pablogriswold421 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah! Four years of playing the same blues lick!
@RedroomStudios
@RedroomStudios 8 жыл бұрын
not at all... him and Rob have jammed plenty of well known songs. I can only assume you guys somehow missed seeing those videos when they were posted. seen them do the Brian Adams song before.
@pablogriswold421
@pablogriswold421 8 жыл бұрын
+RedroomStudios I was referencing some anniversary video where the Captain said pretty much what I said.
@guitarmedia9171
@guitarmedia9171 6 жыл бұрын
Great idea, yeah I noticed a little better top end on the alnico. Thanks for the video.
@ecain1980
@ecain1980 5 жыл бұрын
Love the combined sound
@disfibulator
@disfibulator 8 жыл бұрын
I played through a greenback AC30 for 4 years and was never disappointed. If I were going to buy, though, I would save up for the blue. Blues are clearer, more dynamic, with added beautiful brightness and balanced lows. Greens sound muddy in comparison.
@mannsprichtdeutsch8833
@mannsprichtdeutsch8833 8 жыл бұрын
Agree one of the best comments her regarding the difference of the speakers.
@shoeonhead
@shoeonhead 7 жыл бұрын
disfibulator total opposite for me.
@sheldonbenton5278
@sheldonbenton5278 7 жыл бұрын
disfibulator but a blueback is alnico, so over time it will lose its magnitude and tone. Ceramic will sound the same and won't lose that dynamic range and tone
@sexycheeseburgernameisfort8320
@sexycheeseburgernameisfort8320 6 жыл бұрын
disfibulator AC15 with a blue and green, both broken in The beautiful combination of each tune out each makes the most heavenly tone
@totaltwit
@totaltwit 6 жыл бұрын
I'm getting so confused. In the "old" days, things were what they were, now things are "voiced", some might say "selected" . It seems now I need to have a selection of speaker drivers, try them all in the same amp to find a tone.
@philipsanderson4161
@philipsanderson4161 8 жыл бұрын
This got me thinking, all these comparative videos are great, and I love listening to your collective opinions, but, because of the compromise in sound, with the compression via KZbin, what would be the chances of you setting up a place where you can download recording quality sound files for each of your comparison videos?
@elcap420
@elcap420 4 жыл бұрын
I had a speaker in my Evil Fender Twin die many years ago and I decided to mix it up. Now the amp has one ceramic and one AlNiCo and it has been a pleasure to my ears ever since.
@defh2o
@defh2o 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Creamback in my AC10. I love it compared the the Greenback because it sounds more open. I also changed the tubes to create slightly less gain. prefect blues amp. 5751 in the Preamp and a 12Ax7 in the phase inverter cheers from the USA ! I love the videos Cap!
@mediumtalented9250
@mediumtalented9250 8 жыл бұрын
Finger pointing works too, but in 2016 you can also use text on screen to just read out which speaker is being used. The future is now.
@LeonAnema
@LeonAnema 4 жыл бұрын
Greenbacks definitely sound bluesier and warm and fuzzy to me atleast \m/ omg that overdriven tone with the strat and the greenbacks made me shiver full on hendrix tone right there
@maca600ss
@maca600ss 7 жыл бұрын
thanks great vid both amps sound great
@ShawnTBell
@ShawnTBell 6 жыл бұрын
This is a very helpful video
@davidfield8122
@davidfield8122 6 жыл бұрын
Would be helpful if you could feature text on screen to specify which amp is playing when. I lost track of which was which
@georgefromgreece4119
@georgefromgreece4119 3 жыл бұрын
Which perhaps means subtle differences we guitarists are looking after are really minor even to our own conscious investigational hearing.
@nebanuk
@nebanuk 3 жыл бұрын
@@georgefromgreece4119 no, it doesn’t mean that. It means there is a difference, but that we are not sure to which speaker we are to attribute the characteristic differences, because this video is shit.
@kmjansen
@kmjansen 3 жыл бұрын
@@georgefromgreece4119 Vast difference came through on my (not so nice) home theater speakers but could only hear a marginal one through my tv speakers
@timbuk1126
@timbuk1126 3 жыл бұрын
Greenbacks on the right, Blues on the left
@michaelsablan8772
@michaelsablan8772 3 жыл бұрын
In line with Santafemikez and lying to the moon....green on the right, blue on the left if you have your headphones on the right way. You can’t hear the difference much through your TV or speakers, best sound differentiation is through some type of decent headphones when watching any comparison videos between amps, guitars, etc.
@kevinreddoch5214
@kevinreddoch5214 7 жыл бұрын
Honestly I think they both are awesome and sound like great quality. So I think if I was shopping for an amp I'd go with cheaper of the two and then invest the difference in a cool pedal or two that could help me make fun sounds.
@Ryan-re7oj
@Ryan-re7oj 6 жыл бұрын
I love my CC1 and use it for everything! Blues, metal, rock..etc. Takes pedals like a savage and has no issues cutting through drums,halfstacks, 8x10 Ampegs..BRING IT ON!
@estebanzapico1942
@estebanzapico1942 5 жыл бұрын
They both sound great. But when they put both of them at the same time... that was tone heaven. I am now convinced that the best set up would be to use both of them in stereo. Amazing.
@diltonaguirre8468
@diltonaguirre8468 7 жыл бұрын
The Blueback definitely sounds better. Especially with the Strat. I have been looking for a 15 watt amp for a while and this really helped.
@lastofthe4horsemen279
@lastofthe4horsemen279 Жыл бұрын
The Blue is kick ass have one in my DRRI
@SuperTomwaits
@SuperTomwaits Жыл бұрын
Green all the way.
@juanmaperera
@juanmaperera 7 жыл бұрын
"...ALNICO is made of three things... Aluminun, Nickel and LOVE" LOL :D
@totaltwit
@totaltwit 6 жыл бұрын
amusing comment, I agree, I seem prefer alnico either in pups or speakers.
@BlueLou974
@BlueLou974 6 жыл бұрын
yessir, the Co takes our money & the AlNiCo gives us love.
@TheParanoidAndroid79
@TheParanoidAndroid79 6 жыл бұрын
Cobalt. It's far rarer and more expensive than love.
@cheath8705
@cheath8705 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheParanoidAndroid79 - But Love is priceless compared to Cobalt that many fail to fully understand.
@everonlyallforthee
@everonlyallforthee 3 жыл бұрын
@@cheath8705 @TheParanoidAndroid79 - My wedding ring is cobalt, which is what happens when you mix the two.
@TheMacroReport
@TheMacroReport 5 жыл бұрын
Love the "It's Only Love" riff!
@chrischia4138
@chrischia4138 8 жыл бұрын
Great vid as always, gents. I'm in agreement with Rob regarding the lead vs. rhythm tones between the two speakers, especially in live situations. Would like to see what you all would see regarding high watt and closed-back cab comparisons. I use identical oversized 2 x 12 cabs, each loaded with Greenbacks in one and V30's in the other. Appreciate your efforts
@vishalsheth1888
@vishalsheth1888 8 жыл бұрын
Cheapest pedal board challenge?
@TyneGibbs12
@TyneGibbs12 8 жыл бұрын
You can get any form of pedal off ebay from a no brand chinese company for like $10 - $20 each. so a drive a boost, a chorus, and a delay would be $60. Challenge done.
@marvin3242
@marvin3242 8 жыл бұрын
+FeelsJasonMan Cuuuubbbbbeeeee
@gluee8674
@gluee8674 8 жыл бұрын
+John Strope hey i have one of those
@vishalsheth1888
@vishalsheth1888 8 жыл бұрын
+TyneGibbs12 if it was that easy why would anyone even watch their videos.
@vishalsheth1888
@vishalsheth1888 8 жыл бұрын
I would find such a challenge quite useful as me like many others have a limited budget as opposed to their pointless pedal board challenge which basically was 'I own the store, I will pickup whatever I want.' I trust them the most with reviews so thought maybe it was a cool idea.
@musicmann1967
@musicmann1967 7 жыл бұрын
Blue. Glad I've got one in my AC15. :)
@RichardJohnson_dydx
@RichardJohnson_dydx 8 жыл бұрын
Laura from Against Me was runs an AC30 blueback with a Vox 2x12 live. It sounded so good. I was blown away.
@hermannmaier0
@hermannmaier0 6 жыл бұрын
I really like my Celestion Blue 112 cab, and my G12H Heritage 112 cab. Two different sounding speakers in identical cabs. Both wonderful to play. Have a 212 of Blues, too. Love it..
@coledraper5694
@coledraper5694 7 жыл бұрын
made it about 8 mins in, replayed that riff of Rob's about 100 times, learned it, and played it for half an hour
@barnshart9662
@barnshart9662 3 жыл бұрын
3 years late here. But that's "It's only love" by Brian Adams
@TheTruthRocks
@TheTruthRocks 8 жыл бұрын
It may have been less subjective to run the guitar through a single amp and then A/B the speaker-out to two identical speaker cabs--one with the green and one with the blue. A huge consideration is this: no two identical amps sound identical, and no two identical mics sound identical. Thanks for all you do!
@mannsprichtdeutsch8833
@mannsprichtdeutsch8833 8 жыл бұрын
true
@thenut1212
@thenut1212 3 жыл бұрын
Would def love to hear this amp with some of the the other Alnico speakers (gold, cream, ruby). What a great idea for a top tier amp to have it be the buyers choice as to the top tier speaker at no extra cost, especially for how much they already cost.
@robertraudenbush8458
@robertraudenbush8458 3 жыл бұрын
Another similar test is to run the same amp but with two separate cabs loaded with different speakers. Tube amps, (As much as we love them), tubes will warm up differently and of course harmonically tubes are fractionally inconsistent from one run to the next. Using the same amp with two cabs gives a truer rendition of the differences of the speakers. Man I always love listening to these gentlemen's reviews !!! They are awesome !!!
@TheNanojazz
@TheNanojazz 8 жыл бұрын
Vox is so underappreciated. Amazing amps!
@jackdarby6080
@jackdarby6080 3 жыл бұрын
Are you for real? They are insanely desirable. At least in the UK anyway.
@syamakhalder4646
@syamakhalder4646 2 жыл бұрын
@@jackdarby6080 i think he is speaking in comparison of marshall, which is kinda true, highly overrated and a slight changed copy of fender amps, basically the one direction of amp world
@pharmerdavid1432
@pharmerdavid1432 Жыл бұрын
@@jackdarby6080 Not as much here on the left coast of North America ("the colonies" to you Brits), where I rarely see Vox amps being used, not that people don't like them. Fender and Marshall seem to dominate.
@lastofthe4horsemen279
@lastofthe4horsemen279 Жыл бұрын
Yes only drawback is the extreme weight .Thoroughly love my AC30 got it for 599 best $ l ever spent.2 Greenbacks super sound.
@DucksDeLucks
@DucksDeLucks 8 жыл бұрын
GAwd it's like night and day. Blueback is heavenly!
@ZillaCabs
@ZillaCabs 4 жыл бұрын
If you get a chance try them together, it is one of the most underrated combinations, the AC30 is a great sized amp/cab to use (you just have to get over the volume drop on the M).
@elwrongo
@elwrongo 7 жыл бұрын
Sounded great with both running. Which is why a lot of AC30 people have one of each (blue and green) and which is what I do in my Fender 67 Bassman 2x12 box. Pretty ace.
@thegayagenda2611
@thegayagenda2611 7 жыл бұрын
I forgot which was which about three minutes into the video anyway.
@Bleats_Sinodai
@Bleats_Sinodai 8 жыл бұрын
The Greenbacks have a more modern Rock/Metal tone, while the Bluebacks have a more Classic Rock/Blues sound. I personally like the sound of both together. You guys should do more Mixed Speaker Models demos. It's an interesting way to get very rich tones IMO.
@MarkSchuster-ym3iy
@MarkSchuster-ym3iy 2 жыл бұрын
I pulled 4 green backs out of a 1971 acoustic 405 transducer. They were 16 ohm, 25 watts, and 55cs or hz. Put them in a slightly smaller Marshall 412. They sound incredible and the low end is clear and deep. I love these speakers
@jackvanden-plas3652
@jackvanden-plas3652 8 жыл бұрын
that riff played at 10 minutes is TASTY, thank you for adding colour to a dull day guys!!!!
@Herbderpin50
@Herbderpin50 Ай бұрын
You may not be interested in this seven years after your post, but that was the opening riff on Bryan Adams and Tina Turner's old song "It's Only Love." Cheers!
@mariodriessen9740
@mariodriessen9740 8 жыл бұрын
The blues all the way. You can't hear the extra 'oomph', but I can assure you it's there. I'm not saying the greenbacks are bad, because they're not (duh), but I prefer the 'honest' sound of the alnico blues.
@bradmodd7856
@bradmodd7856 4 жыл бұрын
It is pretty ridiculous to put a greenback in a combo....they are meant to go in a quadbox.....pretty bad sounding speaker in a combo....but hey, it's only rock n roll
@HotJamStudios
@HotJamStudios 3 жыл бұрын
I hope you guys planned your t-shirt colour choices for this video.
@alexmontalvo6854
@alexmontalvo6854 7 жыл бұрын
Without a shadow of a doubt!!! The verdict is IN and the blueback speakers are more alive!!! Thanks of the vids. I really enjoy them.....altough some of them are kinda long I do enjoy them!!!
@obijuan3004
@obijuan3004 7 жыл бұрын
These guys are great! No pretense, just straight up guitar tech. Thanks The worlds greatest Guitar Nerds.
@xchump
@xchump 8 жыл бұрын
Interesting. My preference: Clean = Blue Slight breakup/rhythm = Green Overdrive/lead = Blue
@thedevilcomes2011
@thedevilcomes2011 8 жыл бұрын
that stereo mix of the 2 of them is amazing :) (the first distorted rift)
@stopmonkey47452
@stopmonkey47452 7 жыл бұрын
had two friends in college who teamed up and bought an AC30 each, one with greens, one with blues, and switched one of each speaker out. gave both amps an amazingly balanced tone. to all three of us there were things each speaker did better, so having both gave them the versatility to have a rounder tone. i ended up replacing my old stock warfdale speakers with 2 speakers from Warehouse Guitar Speakers (ET65 and a veteran30) and loved it even more than the green/blueback combo. which now means to get a true representation of my tone i use four mics on one combo amp, which is definitely overkill, and looks ridiculous, but it gives me lots of options. When i made the switch my sound man said "don't know whose guitar you're borrowing, but it sounds way better than yours ever does"
@Tinners1983
@Tinners1983 8 жыл бұрын
The blue for me, the extra top end gives you an effective mid scoop which sounds pleasing to me. I never play with the tone on 10 on any of my guitars, so happy to tame it that way. When the captain plays with the KTR into the blue, you get the mids back, nice blues/rock tone
@willschaumann3814
@willschaumann3814 8 жыл бұрын
What ever happened to the ML-V we were voting for?
@pistolgoo
@pistolgoo 8 жыл бұрын
Please do a captain guitar collection please
@pistolgoo
@pistolgoo 8 жыл бұрын
Updated*
@DrSpaceman69
@DrSpaceman69 8 жыл бұрын
second that
@redbandmedia79
@redbandmedia79 8 жыл бұрын
Old one here in case people missed it
@RedroomStudios
@RedroomStudios 8 жыл бұрын
they already have
@jw.2507
@jw.2507 7 жыл бұрын
LOVE my Purple Lmtd Vox AC15 blue back..they are so right, ive never even turned the thing up past noon in my life...and I gig at clubs with it. It's SO DAMN LOUD! ROCK ON!
@huntermcbridewh
@huntermcbridewh 8 жыл бұрын
Can you guys PLEASE do a review on the Ibanez Artcore hollow body series?? I'm fixing to start gigging and I'd like a proper review on it where I can hear a more professional sound quality than just from a phone microphone. Cheers guys! Love your videos and have a great day!
@LUckybones25
@LUckybones25 4 жыл бұрын
To my ears, Blueback sounds better clean, but the Greenback sounds better overdriven
@FransCarlson
@FransCarlson 4 жыл бұрын
you`re so right my friend !!
@FransCarlson
@FransCarlson 4 жыл бұрын
if i must choose one over the Another i go for the blue
@ethansimpson1007
@ethansimpson1007 4 жыл бұрын
Probably because in the 50s no one really pushed the amps. Nowadays, the power of the speakers may be counter productive.
@MrKultivar
@MrKultivar 4 жыл бұрын
Well, I do agree fully! Thatswhy my choice would be greenback. (And I am clean to low gain player)
@gdawgs101
@gdawgs101 8 жыл бұрын
The greenbacks sound sweeter to my ears and seem to have more nuance to the tone. The blues cut through the mix better though.
@WolfofNightMusic
@WolfofNightMusic Жыл бұрын
Just saved me purchasing celestion blues for my amp. Thanks.
@guitarnut7438
@guitarnut7438 7 жыл бұрын
I need an alnico speaker! Thanks for this vid!
@calebpaden5856
@calebpaden5856 8 жыл бұрын
it's like the difference between a bridge and neck pickup
@ChrisStoneinator
@ChrisStoneinator 5 жыл бұрын
5:20 Dude that was Ursa's Enrage sound effect from Dota 2, what an odd place to hear it
@eerorismala2009
@eerorismala2009 8 жыл бұрын
awesome guitar rob!
@SnapPunchRobert
@SnapPunchRobert 8 жыл бұрын
Sweet shootout. I believe I prefer the amp on my left amp., but I'd gladly take either.
@TheShinyShow
@TheShinyShow 8 жыл бұрын
Preferred the blueback, but thought it was the less expensive one because I've heard of greenbacks before and never bluebacks.
@RedroomStudios
@RedroomStudios 8 жыл бұрын
same.
@mbvglider
@mbvglider 8 жыл бұрын
Because nobody calls it bluebacks. It's Alnico Blue and it's the most expensive and legendary speaker Celestion sells.
@vitorveiga6547
@vitorveiga6547 8 жыл бұрын
Me too. I have one with greenback speaker and is very good but the tone of alnico blue is wonderful.
@bobbystereo936
@bobbystereo936 8 жыл бұрын
Gold most expensive?
@WatisYouth
@WatisYouth 7 жыл бұрын
Does anyone else hear just more compression from the greenbacks? To my ears, i liked the clean tone from the greens and the OD from the blue. I heard too much compression in the greens when dirty. But it was nice when clean. Also, maybe Im insane
@stuminnis4050
@stuminnis4050 Жыл бұрын
I’m 6 years late to this video, but for what it’s worth I noticed something important: you can get a brand new Alnico Blue speaker for less than the price difference between these two models, which are otherwise identical. So buy the greenback combo and the speaker, then swap out the speaker. You just saved some money over the more expensive model and have a spare 12” greenback to boot.
@oldeeold211
@oldeeold211 6 жыл бұрын
Grate test yet again!
@clarkishee8914
@clarkishee8914 7 жыл бұрын
Alnico Blue definitely won it for me. Sounded like it gave the amp more headroom and gave each guitar a more robust lower end.
@davidwhite9942
@davidwhite9942 7 жыл бұрын
I think that the Blue gives a Better Sound through the VOX.! Would love to See the Same Test With a couple of Fender Amps.!!
@Five0Music
@Five0Music 3 жыл бұрын
The Blue sounds more open and “Voxy” to me. Having just added my first 2x12 Alnico Blue cab to the room, I have also been recently impressed “in person” about the all around tone of the speakers. The Greens rule with Marshalls (or my HXDA), but the Blues are just the right speakers for EL84 amps. Both sounded nice, but the Blue was the better tone to my ears.
@EzyoMusic
@EzyoMusic 7 жыл бұрын
Always been attracted to alnico tones. My 18W Vox currently has a G12-65 in it and got an Alnico Gold for it a while back. Still haven't put it in the amp though.
@glennedwardgo
@glennedwardgo 7 жыл бұрын
Blue=brighter, more mids. Green=slightly warmer. To my ears at least.
@pekkatervala8476
@pekkatervala8476 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, ceramic pickups have also warmer tone than AlNiCos.
@vladjames2000
@vladjames2000 8 жыл бұрын
Is it just me? I'm hearing the blue back having more mids.
@jackleyton5504
@jackleyton5504 7 жыл бұрын
The blue wins for me. We can hear better differences than you can because we are getting the miked sound with no off axis to bother us. The blue is much more aggressive in a good way. More punch and better ability to create high end not to mention much less flub. At least thats what I'm hearing. I have the AC30 with the blue's in it and its amazing. Ive got the Ac30 for my clean tones, a Friedman 100 watt BE for plexi rhythm tones and a Boogie Mark V for leads. I have other amps but this mix is perfect for what Im doing in my studio. Love the show guys.
@colomboy86
@colomboy86 3 жыл бұрын
After hearing both together and on their own, I liked the sound and tone of both sets of speakers at the same time. A thought I then had would be to have one 2x12 amp, but as for the speakers themselves, one blueback and one greenback (for me, probably the blueback on the left and the greenback on the right) followed by stereo miking said amp.
@KevPezJALP
@KevPezJALP 6 жыл бұрын
The Vox I bought has Bluebacks. Is it better then Greens? I don't know, I'm too busy enjoying the Vox tone.
@timreichert9982
@timreichert9982 6 жыл бұрын
Blue best, green garbage.
@pauldigga5419
@pauldigga5419 6 жыл бұрын
Like everything else it’s subjective. I don’t think there is a better but with headphones on I prefer the green back alone or the two together
@all_mesa_man922
@all_mesa_man922 6 жыл бұрын
lolfuckingwhat? just.... no
@MyMotherTheCar
@MyMotherTheCar 4 жыл бұрын
I prefer the greenbacks; the blues sound fizzy to me.
@hazelstreet1654
@hazelstreet1654 4 жыл бұрын
You're right. In person though, it's a nice smooth fizzy sound. Its louder and is a little more sensitive on your picking. It breaks up a little easier. Te clean tone it produces is so nice.
@1willywonker
@1willywonker 6 жыл бұрын
they both sound great
@TheFlyingAudiophile
@TheFlyingAudiophile 7 жыл бұрын
A really interesting comparison so thanks guys. I bought my greenback AC15C1 from Andertons and can confirm that it's bloody loud for home use! Interestingly I think in real life (with my American standard Strat) it sounds much brighter in room than the video would imply - indeed much more like the blue! Were you using the normal or the top boost channel for these tests? Pedals wise I like the Timmy for a little extra boost and have had great success with the Digitech bad monkey for overdrive. I use mine with Rocksmith with the sound split. In game sound goes to a big Naim system and I play guitar through the AC15. I found that it took an AC15 to really cut through against the Naim powered backing track.
@johnthannum1627
@johnthannum1627 7 жыл бұрын
I think grean for the humbuckers and blue for the Strat
@psilocypher
@psilocypher 6 жыл бұрын
John Thannum I think the opposite. The blues have a bit more treble, so they would help pep up an LP. And the greenbacks would help tone down some of the high end coming from a strat. Different strokes...
@Lvkkie
@Lvkkie 8 жыл бұрын
As you can hear at 14:55, Rob turned into a whale for a second! Fascinating....
@jovanoskinikolce4058
@jovanoskinikolce4058 8 жыл бұрын
i just got bugera 55v used underbuget all tube amp and i love it... have u played bugera if u did tell me what u think about them...love youre videos keep up the good work
@laroldrebhun195
@laroldrebhun195 6 жыл бұрын
Got the Blue...Damn. Now I need one of each for Stereo!
@davidraine8686
@davidraine8686 7 жыл бұрын
Seroius question. Why do you guys never wear ear defence when doing these reviews (unless you're both wearing fitted plugs and I can't see them). I understand this can maybe limit the amount of tone you guys can hear, but as a working musician i'm just going to say you only get one set of ears. PROTECT YOUR HEARING
@iplayloud2
@iplayloud2 5 жыл бұрын
With a 15w amp? No worries..
@HF1600ie
@HF1600ie 5 жыл бұрын
@@iplayloud2 Even a 5w crancked is loud!
@jaecenwhite2590
@jaecenwhite2590 4 жыл бұрын
iplayloud2 An AC15 is more than loud enough to damage your hearing. Logic would make you think it’s half as loud as an AC30, but it’s only ~3db quieter at full tilt (plus a tad for less efficient speaker design because it’s a single). In fact an AC15 is about half as loud as a Marshall 100w head with a 4x12 cab. It’s that the power section of the AC15 will break up and distort at much lower volumes than the AC30 or big Marshall.
@BAMBUZEL
@BAMBUZEL 8 жыл бұрын
Get both 2x12 :)
@eddieloera2951
@eddieloera2951 8 жыл бұрын
hey Rob, when can we expect the western expedition documentary? I would love to see us at the whiskey!
@weloveug
@weloveug 8 жыл бұрын
I prefer the Alnico Blue, but it really is a great comparison. Either amp does really well with pedals in front of it.
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