BMW F80 M3 (Watch out BEFORE buying!)

[@SpencerBerke]

Here’s the most recent podcast going over the single turbo setup - kzbin.info/www/bejne/iHfNmYCKmMtsnsU 🏁

[@nikokarapetyan4467]

when u get ur crankhub done can u plz ask him the difference bettween a crank capture and a crank hub and which one is the better option

[@malakairiley8466]

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[@jackbowen8706]

@Malakai Riley instablaster ;)

[@malakairiley8466]

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[@malakairiley8466]

@Jack Bowen it did the trick and I finally got access to my account again. I am so happy:D Thanks so much you saved my account!

[@rellmang8018]

Asian mechanic should make his own channel! I would watch his content he’s very knowledgeable

[@DylanSmiderle]

He has one..

[@F83.M4]

@@DylanSmiderle ur gae

[@SCUUZEM3]

What is it?

[@rankzwazhere]

That video didn't even feel like 30min. I've seen a lot of M4 videos and nobody has explained the S55 like this wow. Can't wait for more content.

[@BAD_GRIM]

Seems like a honest mechanic, I need one of those when it’s my time for my M car lol

[@SpencerBerke]

He’s the best!!!

[@BarakaGitari]

Step 1: Make sure nobody else messed with the car Step 2: Mess with the car

[@JusZard]

Lol 😂

[@RonnieCunningham]

That guy really knows his stuff. Great guy to have on your team

[@Mr.Enigmatik]

Man your videos are on another level. They’re just so real and authentic. I love how you capture little details when most people don’t even think about filming.

[@buckrogers8858]

The crank hub issue is blown out of proportion. I have two friends that work at a BMW dealership. One has been there 9(started in 2012) years and the other 15 years(started in 2006). They have never seen that issue on the s55 motor. I daily drive my 2015 M3(except in bad weather) I drive it hard at times, I have the DCT transmission. No problems. I do like to brag about my car having a factory badge delete on the trunk...no M3 symbol.

[@jinxtacy]

Blown out of proportion yes. An issue that is possible? Yes. Seems to happen more with people upping the power along with the DCT. The money would probably be better spent getting a group of friends to throw money into an annual pot and if the issue happens then the person that has the issue collects the pot for a new motor/repair. It would probably be cheaper and in reality, everyone would probably get their money back instead of thousands of people spending thousands of dollars to prevent the unlikely.

[@thewheeltroll1833]

We’re just going to ignore the 1M in the background lol

[@ThicWhips]

That thing is sexual.

[@OddjobBond007]

Love that 1M in the background!

[@davidramez6219]

I lost interest with the F80 after I saw that 1M.

[@tim7531]

F82 here. So glad to see you hop on the platform and stoked for more content 🔥🔥🔥

[@SpencerBerke]

Thank you man!!!

[@Jbpgarage]

Great video, lots of good information about the S55. At 20:50 dude said, he has to let off the throttle after the mods he has done with the car, cause it breaks loose, which is a common problem even with stock F80/82. Knowing this, I don’t understand why people are always trying to make more power. More power just makes this car un drivable.

[@johnnylima784]

I fully agree. I have a 2016 Standard m3 LCi and went back to stock after fbo as the car becomes almost undrivable with all that power!don’t get me wrong it’s very enjoyable with the added mods and extra oomph but it becomes a bit difficult to max the car say around corners or powersliding for example because the car becomes somewhat unbalanced due to all the extra power. I feel like I have to constantly half throttle like I’m driving on ice.I’m a straight line it’s all good, but these cars are so fun in the corners why would you take that away from the driving experience. For me at least, it takes some of the fun away, as I believe pushing the car to its max is much more enjoyable. My 2c

[@benjic4589]

Currently in the market for an F80. Great video and very helpful. All the best to you man!

[@SpencerBerke]

Thank you so much!!

[@THEDOPEYDAISY]

This guy is so knowledgeable, I can’t wait for him to start work on your car.

[@trulyboosted1264]

I see Precision as a MUST VISIT when I go to California, love these guys

[@kjb8321]

I'm currently in the market for an F80 M3 and I wish I lived stateside just so that I could take it to this guy for maintenance and work - very knowledgeable and honest

[@ThicWhips]

Man, I am so hyped for these videos. This is such a CLEAN spec Spencer, great choice!

[@edward-tv]

I got my crankhub upgrade and it was probably one of the best things I did. The peace of mind means everything

[@Pepecoin123]

How much was it

[@edward-tv]

@@Pepecoin123 Around $2000 for VTT

[@RushworKz]

What mileage you get it done at bro?

[@edward-tv]

@@RushworKz 11k miles

[@vvertdidit]

@@edward-tvwhere did u get it done

[@Hatfieldzeke83]

Bro, this is the best video ever man. I feel like my knowledge just went through the roof. Amazing content 🔥🔥!!

[@Auto.Anorak]

Really excited for this series Spencer. Your KZbin is about to blow up in even bigger ways!!!

[@SpencerBerke]

Thanks so much, I appreciate that a ton!!

[@MrLalasd]

Get Equal length midpipes for good sound. I'd leave the cats on.

[@gupallday4483]

The best info content for f series on you tube, I'm so happy you brought this car.

[@alfa_media9654]

I legitimately got goosebumps several times throughout watching this video. I’m so happy for you. Also I can’t wait to see where this build goes!

[@SteezyJ]

Hyped as hell because I got to watch Spencer’s new vid on my tv when I woke up lol 😁✌️

[@wyoguy9720]

Spencer, wife and I test drove the first F80 M3 we have ever drove yesterday. It changed my opinion on F80’s forever, and gave wifey whip lash. As soon as our house is built, we’re gonna pull the trigger on one. Thanks for the honest, well researched, and well supported content. (And they fit a baby seat perfectly, not that it applies to most your viewers) So happy the channel is back and better than ever!

[@davidchen4624]

I am planning in buying an m3 soon and this video has taught me a lot. Bravo

[@F80Ho]

Insane video man! Super dope, can’t wait to see what y’all got planned with Mike and Kennedy & the team 🔥

[@SpencerBerke]

Thank you brother!!!

[@naterockwell7735]

Weather we like it or not Spencer all BMWs have an Achilles Heel. Some are worse than other generations. But I’m not here to be negative. Congrats on the new BMW! I’m very happy for you friend! 👍

[@fullcircle110]

$56k with 26k miles is hella good deal bro... love the look. Congrats. I am a dealer and I checked MMR auction price which is around 54k with no drive assistance and crappy color.

[@Arunjitt]

It’s non comp tho, I paid $62k last year for 14k miles fully loaded 2018.

[@michaeld1503]

Biggest thing when you go E85 is upgrade those tires! You will lose the ass end when full boost kicks in. I went with r888r 295 in the rear and that made a huge difference

[@yashrajthakor]

Yeah I’m going thru the same position on working on the best tire setup for mine right now lol

[@michaeld1503]

Ya it gets pretty scary with the 275s the car comes with lol. I’m really happy with my toyo r888. Definitely sticking with this. I will go to a 305 or maybe even 315 once I get new wheels

[@davissonnguyen]

Lots of helpful information here. Makes me appreciate and love my f80 m3 comp more to know that theyre so reliable. Keep these content coming! beautiful spec and congrats on the car!

[@SpencerBerke]

So glad helps! Thanks for watching and I appreciate that!

[@flexspec]

Even with all those restrictions on the stock exhaust - removing them doesn’t change WHP that much. Which means the stock exhaust is extremely efficient.

[@Spyder423]

I miss my FBO F82 M4 so badly!!!! One of the BEST cars I've owned. Same spec as yours.. It does everything with ease!!! Drive it in good health bro!

[@DLivingston]

Sick, about to jump from this one to the newest upload. Feels good to have your car content back my guy!

[@danked6731]

Thank you for these videos man, just watched one with what you went through and just needed a break

[@JMD535]

I just bought an F80 a week ago,....MY 2017,...and I'm very aware of the CH issue. I have no mods planned for the near future,...as the Entire car is a Mod to me! Just gonna enjoy it as it is 100% OEM Stock!

[@jasonnarayan3272]

Buying an F80 soon and this was extremely helpful!!

[@SpencerBerke]

So glad it helped!!!!

[@verde629]

White exterior with carbon accents and red seats is my dream spec ! Love the car

[@karlosblends]

Thanks for making this video! Definitely plan on getting a f80 this year and he definitely knows his stuff ... will make sure to take it to him when I get one ! 🙏🏽

[@anthonygunness1531]

Here we go again with the crank hub. Yes, crank hub do fail but most of the time it’s due to modifications which increases torque. Also how aggressive you drive the car plays a big factor. I know guys who have their F80 for years and no crank hub issue. I have a 2016 F80 and have never had a crank hub problem. Again, I’m not saying it can’t fail. But it’s funny when people go nuts over it because they’ve seen some cases of it on social media. If it was a huge universal problem, BMW would have issued a recall on it. With all that being said, I do agree upgrading it if you are doing modifications for power and torque increase. Someone mentioned dropping some spacers. I agree, it will make the car look more aggressive and have a wider stance. 12mm front and 15mm rears is a good setup. The better option is to buy a wider wheel but spaces will do the trick until you’re ready to invest in wheels.

[@TruongMikeMai]

BMW will never recall it, just like the S65 rod bearings. S63tu has rod bearing failures as well. So does the N63tu. N20/N26 has timing chain guide failures. Even N54 has turbo, injectors, and high pressure fuel pump failure. They only offered "extended warranty". Sorry but no manufacture will openly admit fault and offer recalls as it'll cost millions of dollars. Until someone does a lawsuit and wins, we will never see it happen

[@VuTube96]

Been watching your videos for a few months... the info in this video turned me into a subscriber! Extremely interested in your upcoming future content on the f80. Congrats on the new car (you got a wild good deal on the car) and that's coming from someone who works in the car business. Hoping you have a Happy new year , warm regards from your newest subscriber on the east coast :)

[@saphireg8094]

I used to have a manual 18 comp and even with two other people in the car this thing is a highway slayer on another level

[@Dbrizle1]

I love you when go to PD, I’ve learned so much from them! Keep up the work ❌

[@lamdo23tech]

Looking forward to this series, Im going to be in the market for a F80/F82 in the future and this video was very informative !

[@Urban_atelierbyabe]

Mine is stock, haven't had any problems with it so far,great video.

[@razerone49]

If I ever come back to bmw from going Audi, I know where my shop will be. The dude explaining things seems like perfect person to work on your car and to pick apart their brains on random shit. An employee like him makes a shop so I hope they pay him well

[@benadams8525]

I believe it's his shop :-)

[@dime4dice]

What an awesome video, really made it clear that this car is the one I should replace my 340 with !

[@wavyheat305]

Wish we had THOROUGH shops an shop owners like this in Mass. dude seems like he actually likes cars unlike some mechanics i know😔☹️😞😒

[@flipsemo6505]

Missed the M content great video man🔥🔥

[@JohnSRR-lw4bx]

Car is naked asf bro. You need to put on some M Performance parts asap. Carbon mirror caps, black side gills, carbon spoiler, carbon diffuser etc. Eventuri air intake V2 is also a must have.

[@MrS500R]

I like your videos because you can relate to them. It is cool to se all the supercar channels but this is more ”real” I have a F10 M5 and I wish there were a channel like your with a M5 😊

[@davidsalem2896]

There is now... “ vehicle Virals” has a F10 M5 he is starting on.

[@fjones1914]

Knowledgeable guys at the shop.

[@HookedHawaii]

can’t wait to see what you have in store for the car!

[@The_Diesel733]

Mike is saying it's a "must" upgrade, but it's all BS. 1% of failure from all F8x owners doesnt dicate tht it's a must upgrade/fix. Even if it does fail, most of the time it will just throw off timing which won't leave to engine failure do to engine going into limp mode. It's FAKE pandamonia in the F8x world. Just being real. Love your content as always Spencer

[@TruongMikeMai]

I should've rephrased it. It's not a must, just as it's not a must to get car insurance. But in the case that you're one of the unlucky few (Very few) that has timing thrown off significantly, you can bend the intake valves. Which will require a head rebuild (I've done this repair 3 times now). Not saying that it's going to happen to everyone, but it's always better to be safe

[@The_Diesel733]

@@TruongMikeMai Car insurance is a totally different thing and that analogy doesn't work. Yes you need insurance and its there to protect you from comprehensive and also liability. Crank Hub, less than 1% failure so the odds are in F8X owners. Even keyed crank hubs fail.

[@dantem306]

Congrats on your M3, im sure you'll have a unique build 🤙🏾

[@geespot6275]

EQUAL LENGTH mid pipe will get rid of the dry rasp noise , I think you should consider it .

[@adamrozmosh6226]

Still better than all the issues with the e90/92 platform.

[@SCFireDrummer]

Love your videos man and one of the main sources that lead me to finally pull the trigger on a 2018 M3 Comp with only 44K mikes and a rare Certified Preowned. However, please tell me, at what mileage should I get this controversial crank hub and what’s a the go to reliable aftermarket one to get? Thanks and keep up the great videos!!

[@andrewthomson9854]

Thanks for the info. Im in the market for the F80. this will help so much.

[@leenestle]

Great video, super helpful. My understand is the crank hub issue is still a low probability event, so spending $3,600 to save $10k doesn’t seem worth it to me. You would need a 33% failure rate to break even. Now if you can’t stomach the $10k expense then Perhaps makes sense.

[@asim5951]

Mike and his team at PD know their stuff!

[@immytweed4607]

Respect to younger generation you are very knowledgeable

[@Noyoniz]

Best video 🔥🔥🔥 Me As F82 Owner

[@M3Taylor]

So excited for this build man!!

[@ayewanrice]

very cool vid. very informative and that shop has a pretty knowledgeable owner!

[@jerydnoblett121]

"I dont want to use my blinkers everywhere", no Spencer, as a BMW owner you dont want to use your blinkers EVER! You must not have gotten that training. HAHA! JK, great video!

[@doca8792]

I’ve been into Bimmers ever since I went to the factory as a kid, for euro delivery with my family in 1975 for the first e-21’s to roll off the assembly line. Those motors had forged internals. My current e-21 has almost 200k miles on it, and I drive the crap out of it and can’t kill it. And I can’t help but to be disappointed with this crank hub issue and ZERO factory support. But, I’ve heard failures are in 1% of stock cars and that number increases as the mods do. So, these clever fixes are impressive, but how well do they hold up? Drilling holes into the crankshaft, metal shavings, balancing issues, etc…? I’ve seen different designs and can only wonder if they stand up to the testing the engineers do at back at Munich. Props to the aftermarket guys though.

[@bimush123]

Hey Spencer... put spacers on 12.5mm front and 15mm on the back . Makes the car look mean

[@davidsalem2896]

I agree, the only issue is you get heaps of crap kick up on the sides of the car from the wheels.

[@bimush123]

@@davidsalem2896 yes thats very true you will get chips on the rear arches where they flair out .... I have PPF my arches . Or you can get some nice carbon front mud guards which do the trick .

[@davidsalem2896]

m3-Dr that’s a great approach. Custom mud flaps. Thanks for the great suggestions.

[@bimush123]

@@davidsalem2896 you're welcome mate

[@Tristansenpai]

Love this! Looking to buy my first M car once I’ve taken care of some financial stuff post-grad. Hoping to send my car up to Precision, even if it costs an arm and a leg to get any vehicle from Hawaii to U.S. mainland LOL

[@SneakySnakeTheSnake]

Crank hub is just like rod bearings on S65, very small percentage effected... there's a 99% chance you don't need to worry about it, but it still will keep you wide awake at night lol. You could probably just run it and NEVER have the issue. Obviously the shop is going to tell you to do it... its a $3600 job. I personally would only do it if you're planning on modifying power significantly. I still have original bearings in my e92 m3 but I do an oil analysis every oil change for peace of mind. I might change them if I want to go supercharged.

[@TruongMikeMai]

This is true, but after paying for so many oil analysis, you could've done the rod bearings. While the S55 crank hub failure isn't a 100% failure item, it's still a failure item. Why roll the dice and risk spending more money rebuilding the head. At the end of the day, its preventive maintenance. I've seen them fail and just had a S55 in the shop this week, due to crank hub failure. Prior to that was 2 weeks. Prior to that was 3 weeks

[@SneakySnakeTheSnake]

@@TruongMikeMai Blackstone does oil analysis for like $28, I do 1 oil change a year. The closest shop to me that does bearings is a minimum of $1800. Regardless, they should be done because rod bearing failure grenades the motor and a used s65 is anywhere between 6-10k. But hey, if I bought a f80 M3 or m4, I would definitely be getting a warranty.

[@sachii.k1802]

@@SneakySnakeTheSnake just purchase warranty when buying expensive cars like this, best peace of mind ever

[@JMD535]

Excellent video! Major props!

[@bisi3082]

What a great mechanic - most I get out of my independent is a just or raises eyebrows

[@zaimzarif7508]

Spencer. Love your videos. so knowledgeable.

[@ericxueAAA]

Are you guys in Irvine? I'm in Irvine too, I have an Austin yellow F82. Nice video!

[@RevyM3]

Crank hub and that soon to be leaky intercooler core.

[@MikeFigueira]

Kennedy is a good dude. I used to see him at meets in the Bay Area.

[@M3JET_]

where is this shop located at because im buying a m3 soon

[@f80corey]

I'd do the charge pipes bro. They're made out of plastic. Inexpensie solution too...

[@TruongMikeMai]

Throughout my years of experience, I've never seen one break. More of an aesthetic upgrade to me. Definitely not necessary but yes, inexpensive upgrade!

[@danielmacias578]

Very interested in the deal you got on this car. I'm close to buying one myself in SoCal, just wondering on the range in price. Congrats on the F80!!

[@SamuelMonteiro16]

If you want to keep it stock should you still replace the crank hub

[@The_Diesel733]

It boggles my my mind that all these tuner shops and performance shops fear you in getting one and say its good insurance for your engine. Look the M4 GTS which has close to 500 hp with same crank hub as a 425 base M3 M4. What does that tell you. I put this in par with people saying to get Nitrogen Air filled in their tires cause it's better for the tire

[@walidzein1]

dude you live next to Manny Koshbin, you should do a collab with him

[@TruongMikeMai]

So manyplans stored for this build!

[@davidsalem2896]

Hey Spencer, I can see and feel your excitement! I just bought a 2016 F80 M3 Comp in the same colour as yours. I particularly found this video awesome! My is totally stock too. I am looking at carbon fibre rear diffuser and spoiler. Are you doing the same and if so, OEM or aftermarket. The OEM is like Tripple the price and I’m not sure if it’s worth it. What are your thoughts? Thanks from Australia 🇦🇺

[@TruongMikeMai]

Aftermarket, save some money :)

[@krebs4817]

we neeed to see a single turbo f80 build on this channel !!!

[@billymania11]

A few years down the road, unmodded M2/M3/M4 BMW's will be worth a pretty penny. The other modded stuff will have been treated harshly and be all crapped out. I'd almost say buy a 335 or 340 and do hotrod stuff on that instead. It's better to treat the M stuff as sort of an investment.

[@richieprice7308]

This video was so helpful you have no idea

[@menelaoskamariotidis5548]

Very informative video...thanks guys!

[@swb7161]

I think this issue is overplayed, had one for three years and thrashed it... it was fine. The issue I found was the steering rack loosening up and you get a knocking at lower speeds. Otherwise solid car!

[@lighteningbolt6397]

Equal length midpipe is the first mod, then crank hub

[@RS3_JAY]

On E85 with high flow downpipes you should make over 600whp

[@jamerzmagomadov3786]

Just got mine 💪🏼

[@brianp5958]

“A lot of stuff/upgrades you’re going to do with this car” aka “A lot of money you’re going to spend on this car”. Love German cars but the manufacturers don’t make it easy to work on. Damn near have to take the front end off just get access to change parts. Hence that labor bill. Great looking car. Good luck with it but get that wallet ready. I’m sure you know that by now.

[@chris347438]

Dang this guy really knows his f8x stuff.

[@MeGuy80]

If I move back to cali from Florida im definitely bring my M4 here

[@adrianmlodzik7713]

Beautiful Car man, and damn that mechanic seems amazing. I want one like that here in England :D

[@bradjames3858]

Awesome just awesome video man👍👍👍

[@Tage199]

Tips for cold Start BMW M3, Start, press m2 and gently touch the gas pedal. ^_^

[@brianpevehouse1150]

Let's crank hub, sounds like it's blown out of proportion the n54 335IS head transmission never heard about crank on those tuned cars..

[@Evan-ho3fg]

says 55 is cold, us new england people are shaking our heads. haha

[@GimliTehDwarf]

Super informative thanks!