BMW M5 - Going cheap on PARTS - GOOD or BAD idea ? Kingtec review

In the process of rebuilding another S63 engine (this time from a F10 M5) I received some much expected parts the car's owner bought ! A set of Kingtec Racing Forged rods and Forged Pistons.
In this video I am doing an Unboxing of the parts, as well as comparing them with the original BMW pistons and rods.
I was surprised when trying to find information about Kingtec Racing online, and wasn't successful finding nether good or bad experiences so here we are with an initial video .
Check our channel for more videos on BMW F10 M5 twin turbo V8 S63B44 - As you probably know this engine shares the same block with the N63 BMW engine.
##UPDATE - May 2024 I apologise for not having an update on this video as many of you guys are asking but I can guarantee a new video is on the way. Unfortunately the car owner had some issues and was unable to buy the remaining parts for us to rebuild his engine - Those parts are coming in now and we have his engine back on the stand - Fingers crossed and we should have an update video in a month or two once the car is running. Thank you for the understanding ! 👍

[@reeserideoutxxx]

Great review. Very thorough! I'll be on the edge of my seat for your updates in any form.

[@dnl35projects]

Thanks ! I’m hoping to have the block back from the machine shop after xtmas and the assembly will begin.

[@Cavallibuiltit]

I’m glad you made this post, I’ve been curious about those rids and pistons for some time

[@dnl35projects]

I’m glad you liked it ! Let’s see the results in a few months time 🤣

[@justfasial01]

@@dnl35projects can't wait, I was always curious about these as well. Some of the name brands are probably using the same factories to build their parts lol

[@TinCanSailor]

Thank you for taking great care and time with this review.

[@dnl35projects]

Thanks, I have an update video almost ready but waiting on a response from Kingtec regarding a few details

[@bimmer.doctor]

Great video my friend, looking forward to seeing how this goes!

[@dnl35projects]

Thank you ! I’m excited to have this engine put back together as well

[@Adam.Morrison]

I am just chomping at the bit for an update on these, I hope The customer is able to have you finish this soon.

[@dnl35projects]

Unfortunately the customer had some financial issues and we were unable to progress with his build until last week - now that we received the final parts I believe you should see new videos coming up soon 👍

[@ares3649]

Can’t wait for the next vid on this M5, Hope all is well.

[@dnl35projects]

Yes we finally resumed the F10 project and should be having some new vids in a couple of weeks time.

[@marvingaines2356]

Great review bud, I'm interested in these rods and pistons from KingTec Racings and seriously wanting to pull the trigger to buy them already for my Megane 225 RS, Please update us on the what the machine shop says about the quality and how they running in the car.

[@dnl35projects]

Hi, I’ve got the crank back and the guys doing the balancing were pretty impressed with the quality of pistons/rods given the price we paid for them - I should be getting the block back from the machine shop next week and will start the rebuild - will definitely make an update video once the car is running and tunned.

[@Cell_expressja_]

Keep up the good work. These videos really helped me with my n63 rebuild. A wire harness assembly video would really be helpful. I’m currently stuck on that 🥲

[@dnl35projects]

What year / model is your car ?

[@TheSUPERSNIPER59]

Exactly the video I needed! Any update? Edit: I just read what you said in the comments to another guy couple hours ago, let’s hope they work! I’m looking at using these to rebuild my Genesis Coupe

[@dnl35projects]

Cool ! I have great expectations for this engine too

[@rumenstiliyanow4769]

Nice video , looking forward to the next essential one. I've read some positive stuff about a guy with an M3 E92 who replaced his rod bearings with a custom set of "ACL Trimetal" and he stated that these basically "solve" the rod bearing issue. Another thing - what would you recommend if I'm replacing the rod bearings on a S63 should I replace the main bearings as well ?

[@dnl35projects]

You’re absolutely right ! Rod and main bearings are preventive maintenance in some of these high power BMW engines and in fact that’s what made me start this Channel in first place. I’ve done the rod bearings on my v10 M5 in 2019, along with an extensive service and the car has been running good ever since. I’m using ACL race series for rod bearings and King for main bearings - most of the engines I’ve done had relatively good main bearings but I rather spend the extra $250 and have the peace of mind the mains were done as well unless the car has less than 60-80k kms

[@rumenstiliyanow4769]

@@dnl35projects Thank you for the reply. I appreaciate your dedication to the S63 and overall all performance M engines. It would've been great if only we had more experienced people and enthusiasts like yourself to get the job done and for the customer to enjoy his fresh S63.

[@erick2691]

Good job mate!

[@dnl35projects]

Thanks!

[@darekt4183]

I'm currently building my S63 using this kit 👊

[@dnl35projects]

They look good and I'm currently in contact with Kingtec to try to make them even better 🤣

[@roberteckersley7834]

Great video series, will be watching with intrest as i would like an F13 M6 . Understand everyone has a budget but this doesn't seem a particularly good idea. Mainly because its an unknown, and having an unknown is not really worth the risk.

[@dnl35projects]

Yes I agree with you - I’m a bit nervous about putting it together 🤣

[@roberteckersley7834]

​@@dnl35projects lol I can imagine, still you have highlighted the risks I just hope all your hard work is not undone. I think for exhausts, charge coolers & intake kits then going this route is a none issue . But proper engine components are a tricky one. No doubt they are better than stock, but I don't know how confident you could be when you start to lean on them which it sounds like the owner may do .

[@mrtokyo1989]

waiting for more videos :D

[@dnl35projects]

I should be getting that engine back from the machine shop in a few weeks and will definitely do a full build video

[@Cell_expressja_]

I’m currently stuck on putting up the wire harness correctly. I’d greatly appreciate any help you can provide 🙏

[@dnl35projects]

They are pretty intuitive as the connectors can hardly be swapped or plugged incorrectly

[@jobisrael8313]

They said this is your last video which is 2 months ago. I want to see a video with the f90 and see do the high performance coolant box work better than the standard I'm not talking about the Cooling reservoir but the two boxes in the front. I looked up how much a f90 motor cost they said between 50k to 70k is that true? The Dodge Demon motor cost 31,000. 02-25-24

[@dnl35projects]

Hi there, yes the motor is really expensive. I’m definitely doing an update video once the F10 engine is put together however I was very busy with work until last week and will have more time for videos from today onwards. Yes the two upgraded intercoolers at front should definitely help with performance.

[@chcrasyideas5856]

Any updates on the build? I am also looking at the Kingtec rods and pistons.

[@dnl35projects]

Hi, I just got the block back from the machine shop and the sleeves are in however the car owner is a bit tight with money so it should be another month or so until he buys the remaining bits and I can assemble this engine.

[@chcrasyideas5856]

I just ordered my Kingtec pistons and rods for my Golf 6R. The pistons is fully coated and the rods riffle drilled. I ordered straight from Kingtec.

[@jamisonebert2398]

Update video coming soon? VERY curious on the results. Im all for quality parts, but im also for more competitive pricing

[@dnl35projects]

Yes, we had this project on hold for several months but finally received the remaining parts so that engine is build rebuilt now and If time allows I should be able to make an update video in a month or two

[@535turbom]

hello , how is it going , my x5m 2012 motor went bad i bought another motor and want to rebuild , i will like to know how did kingtec kit is working out , to see if is a great investment ...thanks for your page...

[@dnl35projects]

Hi, I’m still for the block to start the rebuild process but will definitely update everyone once that engine is running

[@AlfisGarage]

Looks interesting, please don't forget to do a follow up :)

[@dnl35projects]

Absolutely - I’m hoping to get the block from the machine shop guys in a week or two and start the rebuild.

[@nofaceahk5802]

Are you going to balance the crank with those pistons and rods ?

[@dnl35projects]

Yes - Technically the factory BMW should accept 3-4grams diference but I won’t take chances since it cost around $350 to have the set balanced

[@thelglking5394]

Ngl I was thinking about getting some connecting rods off of Alibaba I’m so glad you made a video about it I’ll probably wait until I see you make a video on how they perform

[@dnl35projects]

That’s a video I’ll be looking forward to make !

[@kasp1971]

Yes, these pistons will force YOU to balance the crankshaft. Because the weight of the standard connecting rod-piston components differs from the weight of the Taiwanese ones. Crankshaft balancing is MANDATORY.

[@dnl35projects]

Yes we had them balanced to perfection however the guys told me they were within the acceptable tolerances

[@edialmazov8613]

Quality How much does it cost to install such a connecting rod on a car?

[@dnl35projects]

Hi, it depends on what car you have but the engine must be taken apart for that job

[@kimkiyun57]

나도 같은수리를 진행중입니다 영상에 큰도움이 되었습니다 감사합니다

[@dnl35projects]

마음에 드셨다니 기쁘네요! 감사합니다

[@jonathanlinehan9316]

Any updates on the parts and engine rebuild

[@dnl35projects]

Hi, we are waiting for funds from the owner so we can buy the remaining parts and start the build

[@davillehenry5770]

Does the n20 transmission is same as the f10?

[@dnl35projects]

No, the F10 M5 has a DCT

[@vaghostrider6281]

Keep us posted. Any updates?

[@dnl35projects]

Hi, i should be getting that engine back and start the rebuild in a week or two - Will definitely make an update video once the engine is up and running

[@billyowusu48]

How is it going man? Interested to see how it goes

[@dnl35projects]

Hey Bill, the owner finally bought the remaining parts few weeks ago and I’m currently rebuilding this engine. I guess we are gonna have a few vids up shortly

[@BobsGT235]

I thought from the factory, only the connecting rods and crankshaft were forged on the S63, not the pistons. Am I incorrect?

[@dnl35projects]

The crank is forged but neither the rods or pistons.

[@BobsGT235]

Looks like BMW added forged rods on the latest S63.

[@jamisonebert2398]

Based on what source?

[@BobsGT235]

Technical info from BMW.

[@gregbrutus7484]

How did the Rods and pistons work for you?

[@dnl35projects]

Its a work in progress. I had to contact Kingtec about a few things I wasn't happy with and they are working on it - I should have an update video in a few weeks (hopefully)

[@BulliKid]

I’m ordering a set soon.

[@dnl35projects]

Awesome ! Let us know how that goes 👍

[@BulliKid]

Hey do you know if these have a pressed wrist pin design or a floating wrist pin design?

[@dnl35projects]

They are floating pins with a circlip lock

[@BulliKid]

@@dnl35projects is there a way to message you on Instagram or other social media? I had a few questions since I bought the same kid.

[@BulliKid]

@@dnl35projects can I contact you somehow I have a few questions

[@nicholasvanniekerk880]

Any update on this yet?

[@dnl35projects]

Hi, the machine shop guys are taking way too long to sleeve the block so I haven’t even put that engine together yet. I’m hoping to start the rebuild videos in about a week or two

[@user-yq9uz8vw2e]

Are Kingtec pistons and rods good products in your opinion?

[@dnl35projects]

I cannot say much as this engine is still being rebuilt however there are a few details which were not as I expected and Kingtec is working on a solution.

[@user-yq9uz8vw2e]

@@dnl35projects Is it a problem with the piston ring?

[@dnl35projects]

It depends on the application/engine you’re building - For big HP should be fine however If you require small end gaps to build street cars then you might require different rings. Kingtec is working on a solution at the moment.

[@tragic7400]

what’s up brother trying to get in contact with you about my s63 M5 i remember you messaged me asking about details. lmk thank you!

[@tragic7400]

i have coolant contamination in my engine lmk what you can do for me

[@dnl35projects]

Hi, please pm us at [e-mail]

[@gottgaame]

Start with the basics: oil cooler, head gasket

[@letmeknow4167]

Even if drop 20k on building a motor, expect to drop another 20k reparing or replacing the motor. No matter how bulletproof a motor is it will fail when making high power

[@dnl35projects]

Well, it’s all a matter of how much power. If built correctly with quality parts the s63 can produce 700HP day and night with no issues. I’m currently building an S64TU4 with aims at reliable 1000HP as a daily - Stay tuned

[@fahad75478]

when will you update us?

[@dnl35projects]

Hi, we got the block sleeved and will hopefully have this engine back together in a month or two if the owner come up with the financial resources needed for buying remaining parts.

[@TN1337X]

👍

[@dnl35projects]

Thanks

[@billyowusu48]

Any update? 😢

[@dnl35projects]

Hey Bill, the block is getting sleeved and should be ready in a week or two - I’m definitely making a video on how this goes

[@TeeBee-qz3wy]

What’s the update?

[@dnl35projects]

Hi and sorry 😣 I’m killing myself for taking so long but the parts have finally arrived and we started rebuilding this engine on Monday - I’d say another week or two for the engine assembly videos and maybe a month or so till we can get it running and do another review

[@TeeBee-qz3wy]

@@dnl35projects can’t wait. Love the honesty on your vids.

[@khairulsuhaimimohdjamin5023]

hi, i like your video, i rebuilt my s63tu once

[@dnl35projects]

Thanks !

[@ForexvisionaryFx]

You can grenade an engine?

[@dnl35projects]

Absolutely 😆 - "grenading" an engine is a term used to describe catastrophic engine failure, often resulting in significant damage or destruction of internal components. If you forge an engine, increase the boost and it throw a rod the end results will be similar LOL

[@Paul-bl2dk]

Hi, so the original BMW pistons are 18 thousand and the ones you have from china are 2000 dollars.

[@dnl35projects]

No, when I said about $3k each I am talking about a set of pistons being about $3k and a set of rods being another $3k - The guy paid about $2k for both (set of pistons and set of rods) from Kingtec/Alibaba.

[@chillbro8811]

Bad idea 💡 imo M5 deserves better internals

[@dnl35projects]

👍

[@koreyhill372]

i paid 30k Aud to rebuild mine i wish it was 5k

[@dnl35projects]

Yes it can get really expensive especially considering where you get the job done. If these engines are rebuild before they blow up its around US$5k in parts + labour Where did you get your engine done and what S63 you have ?

[@zooski1516]

This is bad. Well at least you will get more business.

[@dnl35projects]

LOL 😂 that’s true in a sense

[@bobanppvc]

Its not bad..Big names are ripping of customers for cnc machined pieces of metal like rods and pistons.

[@justme2386]

What is the name of the song please at the end 🙏💙

[@dmytrozelenyi7112]

Planning to overhaul mine S63 engine. Thanks for information.

[@justme2386]

Just done a full overhaul on same. Picked up some great tips you done differently. Needing to get my new exhaust but unsure on which to go for. Thanks so much for the informative video that allowed me to finish it. I changed all pistons but didn’t think they even needed done tbf. Engine open though so why not. Every last job done and that’s me for until next summer. Planning on picking up a new 5 next year depending on what is about. Happy and save driving all!

[@chillbro8811]

All this damage over plastic 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@dnl35projects]

Correct