BMW N47 Engine DISASTER: Plastic Swirl Flaps Destroyed Valves, Timing Chain Stretched & Turbo Gone!

[@camperp195]

Now there is a real mechanic 🤙

[@Cuprone]

Dirty real mechanic😅

[@TheAndythomnz]

I laughed so hard when he said you shouldn’t be optimistic if you drive a BMW 😆

[@GpoppaJohn]

You keep producing top quality videos by top quality mechanics. How he remembered where all those bolts went is beyond me, I have to bag mine up.

[@PompeyMatt17]

"chain on the left looks like it's 30 and ready to settle down"..😂

[@ragnarironspear1791]

He knows his stuff 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@JulietHotelFoxtrot]

Holy crap dude. That was impressive timing to get that engine out.

[@thecareditionltd]

Thank you 😊👍

[@alexanderwagner3334]

@@thecareditionltd Amazing how quickly things can be done with the right setup/tools!

[@bigblueocean]

"when you have a BMW you should not he optimistic. Get ready for big bills" 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Clay50]

1h to pull the whole engine out is absolute madness😮😮😮

[@granterono1]

When I get a BMW I want you guys to service it! I’ll travel from Scotland just to get it done right haha good effort guys

[@HowDoYouTravel]

This guy is a genius

[@iancharlesworth3654]

100% RESPECT to you YOUNG MAN. 👍👍👍

[@thecareditionltd]

Thank you 😊👍

[@legioner9]

You move very fast and know what you are doing. A real mechanic. Your accent is very cool btw. The owner of this BMW E90 did the right thing. 3000 pounds well worth it. E90s drive great and are quality cars, if service is done regularly.

[@michaelhall6452]

Engine out in 70 minutes 👏🏻 impressive

[@iamthefatstig]

I have the same core engine in my 2002 Rover 75. MG Rover had the foresight to not use the swirl flaps or a dpf. They still have issues (blocked PCV valves, Crank pulleys) but are pretty much bullet proof and suit the car perfectly. I love watching you guys work, perfect work ethic.

[@bobsurrey6686]

M47 engine in yours mate ther earlier, much more reliable version of this engine no dpf crap to worry about as you say.

[@JasbirSingh-e9k]

6 minutes in to the video and I am thinking it will be cheaper to buy another car altogether! LOL!

[@thecareditionltd]

In this case, you are correct 😁👍

[@JasbirSingh-e9k]

@@thecareditionltd You Chaps honestly do a great job and I guess like me are grateful for the content you put out there. In a round about way. It genuinely places your current clients and future clients (like me) at ease on the level of knowledge, professionalism, can do attitude with a pinch of banter. The balance is spot on and please keep the content coming 👊 PS. You should do a pubic vote on what would people trust more? Mercedes OR BMW for reliability! LOL!

[@shoudd]

Yes I'd like to know the oweners thought process on giving the go ahead on this. The logical thing to do is to scrap/sell as is and cut your losses. The problem the owner now has is this could be the start of many other things failing if previously havent already which in turn will make you feel even more compelled to spend on repair costs.

[@chrispy1965]

Yep, I had one and it was a moneypit. Engine broke twice!?! €25000 total cost in 5 years. Sold it and never bought another car. Never buy the BMW N47!

[@terrybooya6132]

^^^ stick with the M57 😊

[@bigblueocean]

Much more of this guy please. "...is three grand, have a great day" Hilarious 😂😂😂😂😂

[@thecareditionltd]

😁👍

[@timday6087]

Great video. I used to own a 118d with a N47 and lived in a state of constant fear of timing chain issues. A 2010 3 series with 160k can only be worth around £2k so the owner must really love it!

[@abarratt8869]

When working, they're pretty good cars. They're not Euro-6 compliant, but they make an excellent option for a daily driver. I've a slightly newer 3 series Touring with the same engine, at 200k miles and no issues (that's taken diligent servicing and some pre-emptive maintenance). I'm now faced with a decision; put some decent money into it at the 200kmile mark - which will probably make it last for another 100k easy (though, there's a lot of quite old plastic / rubber on that car now - lots of brittle clips!). Alternatively, I could buy a newer one and (probably) have to sink the same money into that at the 100k service, and have a car that - basically - is no better. That's probably what the owner of this one calculated. Yes, it's more money than the car is worth, but the alternative - buying a newer one second hand - is going to cost way more and will still be due a large service bill soon, all while not really provide much more "car". This car now has a thoroughly gone-over engine that'll do 100k no problem at all (with diligent servicing), and so has a value to them that is out-of-step with the wider market's opinion. I think we're in an era where there's a lot about new cars (not just the price) that is putting-off purchasers, and there's not a whole lot about them that is beneficially better than the older ones. Newer ones are not meaningfully more fuel efficient, faster, better handling, or better equipped than, say, an 8 year old car. And I reckon there's plenty who are content with the refinement levels achieved 16 years ago - like the owner of the car in this video. It's almost as if "The Car" reached peak design-refinement in about 2016, or whenever Euro6 came out, and has stopped getting better. Ever since, it's been cost reductions, gimmicks, and the confusion caused by the dash-for-electric vehicles timetable set by the politicians. I will confess to being tempted by a late model F31 with a B47 engine - slightly newer ICE, better economy, Euro 6 compliant, classic BMW looks before they went crazy with styling and monster-sized grills. For any true petrol head it's definitely a dull recipe, but as an affordable daily driver they deliver most of what one could ever want.

[@danmoney9932]

​@@abarratt8869I don't think many n47 make it to 200k so well done. When it's working it's a great engine but there is just too much that goes wrong.

[@abarratt8869]

@@danmoney9932 Still running at the same basic fuel economy too. On a long run it exceeds 50mpg (on those lovely smooth French autoroutes). Argh, but you've got me worried now! I don't want to be writing the authoritative pioneering manual on "how to make an N47 get to 300kmiles", I'd much prefer to be in the company of many like minded maintenance nerds who've already got to 500k!! I am curious as to whether it'll make 250k (moon mileage), and then it's simply a case of where next. If I invest in it, I'd like it to get to 300k I reckon. Maybe if I can get it that far, someone like Sreten over at M539 Restorations on KZbin would get curious and offer a rebuild just to see how well it's actually faired. Small rabbit hole: have you ever seen Chris Harris's impromptu review of a 320d? He and some colleagues / mates hired one to get to the Ring, and on the way did a review of it, so impressed was he at how well it did things like motorway mile munching, whilst still being reasonably engaging off the motoroway. A good all-rounder.

[@legioner9]

@@danmoney9932 Actually many N47 go well beyond 200,000 miles. All of them which are the N47D20C generation and which have regular oil changes (i.e. 6000 - 7000 mls interval).

[@legioner9]

@timday6087: Maybe in UK they worth 2k, because here in mainland Europe an E90 LCI N47 goes for anywhere between 4000 pounds (for junkier ones) to 7000 pounds (for very well maintained ones and loaded).

[@garynewell6947]

wow this guy has some serious skills outstanding content my man

[@thecareditionltd]

Thank you 😊👍

[@eddieMurphy11111]

what a fantastic job you have done. Thanks for the video

[@Keychain-vm9tj]

Absolute masterpiece of a job

[@thecareditionltd]

Thank you 😊👍

[@Pottema]

Very nice to watch to this kind of pure craftsmanship especially the explanation within!!! Thx😊

[@thecareditionltd]

Thank you for watching 😊👍

[@julesviolin]

Best engine in terms of longevity is the M47 lump as used in the 3 series & Rover 75 and Freelander from 2000 era. These engines good for 700k miles, we know of a few. Timing chains last for life of engine and they don't use a drop of oil even after 500k They can be mapped to 160 bhp and higher with bigger turbo. Bullet proof .

[@FirmyR]

Good Job. Proper Mechanic there.

[@thecareditionltd]

Thank you 😊👍

[@212MPH]

Good work there.

[@thecareditionltd]

Thank you 😊👍

[@Ianboid68]

Wow, some mechanic you are m8. Great to watch

[@plugman1963]

Enjoyed watching this. Bit of advice. I'm a retired mechanic. I have a bad back, knees, right shoulder and elbow. All that heavy lifting over the years took its toll. Whenever you can, get help with heavy lifting (gearbox)

[@sod2068]

Ya I noticed, but then I am qualified manual handling Instructer, pure madness lifting that bell house on his own, when the back goes you'll know all about it.

[@ageddes99]

Just fantastic, well done j hope they appreciate all the work put in

[@thecareditionltd]

Thank you 😊👍

[@antoniovantaggiato5829]

Not even the crankshaft pulley was saved!!! Very good and very professional!!👍👍👍 Happy Holidays!!!🎄

[@thecareditionltd]

Thank you 😊👍

[@ashfrost2050]

Great content, your mechanics are great, but whoever is recording/editing these videos is top notch 👌🏻

[@philhealey4443]

Presumably he wears a BMW hat when working on Mercedes. Great camera work focusing on the subject.

[@thecareditionltd]

Thank you 😊👍

[@thecareditionltd]

Thank you 😊👍

[@IanSuddaby-y3i]

It's an education watching this. Well done.

[@thecareditionltd]

Thank you 😊👍

[@jojo43333]

@@thecareditionltd ok so I need advice please. I’m moving from Ireland to Scotland and I need to change my car. SUV type preferably diesel and Audi a3 size. If it were you what would you buy yourself?? 😅

[@denisivanovs5465]

Profi job and a true mechanic sense of humor😂 Влад крут

[@thecareditionltd]

Thank you 😊👍

[@toninocars]

These guys has really good experience and work very well I enjoy watching their videos They are so educational Only don’t understand how there are still people who continue to buy and drive these cars

[@thecareditionltd]

Thank you 😊👍

[@alanedwards7496]

Very well done,great workmanship 👍👍

[@thecareditionltd]

Thank you 😊👍

[@paulmunday5552]

Cracking job. Brilliant mechanic.

[@qollinsqollo2293]

Amazing , would be honoured if he worked on my N47

[@98Blackbess]

Just had the chains done on my Jaguar XF. Main dealer quoted a rough figure of £4.5k. Independent garage £2.3k using all Genuine Jaguar parts.

[@johnfrew9032]

Absolutely class job well done

[@thecareditionltd]

Thank you 😊👍

[@simonmiddleton4977]

Great workmanship! Enough said! Merry Christmas 🎄

[@thecareditionltd]

Thank you! 😊 Merry Christmas 🎄

[@Russcoops97]

I bet this guys worth his weight in gold for this garage

[@nickclark6310]

brilliant video's

[@wickertwm]

Great Video

[@AndrewCurtis57]

Booked in for an oil service… £3,000 😱. Great videos… the alternative Matt Armstrong.

[@virtually360tour]

Great Job! Well done 🫡

[@thecareditionltd]

Thank you 😊👍

[@Raj-nh3fc]

Once a BMW, never again a BMW! Owning a BMW E91 was a real negative life experience for me, specially after successfully owning Toyotas for many years. Now happily back to Toyotas and Mazdas and very happy.

[@terrybooya6132]

Shame you've been put off for life. I doubt I'll ever leave bmw. Don't tell me you got a 6 owner one with naff service history and was hoping it would be ok..

[@pkoreiva]

Gytis legend

[@aldiskapllani2301]

Respect for your job 👌

[@thecareditionltd]

Thank you 😊👍

[@boyasaka]

What a absolutely engineer I’m seriously impressed Very very impressed And I’m not easily impressed Liked and subscribed to your channel Will be defo watching all your vids and sharing them to my mates

[@ianbrock7190]

Great bit of work and although expensive you know have an engine for another 100k miles, better than getting another car and not knowing it’s history

[@p_mcg]

My thoughts exactly. The customer has peace of mind knowing they got a stellar engine rebuild

[@NathS-xr9rh]

Great job on that 😊

[@thecareditionltd]

Thank you 😊👍

[@titou6799]

Fast and good job 🎉 I like it

[@stevenbarker9943]

Guy is fast , made me piss when he said BMW driver should be prepared for big bills , he ain't wrong !!

[@thecareditionltd]

😁👍

[@karter5351]

BMW = Broke My Wallet. The Ultimate Driving Experience, The pain of big bills, can't be beaten

[@terrybooya6132]

machine also said poor maintenance on that motor. 330d M57 Owner here and its the best and longest car I've owned 🙌 mind you, I may of paid a higher price 7/8yrs ago full main dealer service history - we all know the saying, You pay for what you get!

[@luckysmiler]

Brilliant mechanic

[@thecareditionltd]

Thank you 😊👍

[@alex.gliding]

Great Job!

[@thecareditionltd]

Thank you 😊👍

[@Impulse5596]

How many mechanics in modern dealerships are able to carry out this level of work?

[@terrybooya6132]

They'd said ..."Sir, you need a complete new engine"..

[@johnridley5507]

Excellent video

[@thecareditionltd]

Thank you 😊👍

[@xpalletexchangex]

Absolute quality 👍

[@thecareditionltd]

Thank you 😊👍

[@justjoe7313]

Like the videos, like the attitude :)

[@thecareditionltd]

Thank you 😊👍

[@lifeslooker]

awesome rebuild and fix...great diagnosis...I'm bringing my Audi S4 for a once over, definitely. How long did the engine take to put back in with the parts that were ordered?

[@tommyb6674]

Got f20 1 seires I had my chain done last year and I very lucky to say the garage said the chain guide had started to come part and found little piece in the oil pick up. 😬 and add clutch and flywheel on top because they was knackered 🙄 nearly die when I got the bill 😳

[@terrybooya6132]

How much was me talking 😮🫣

[@tommyb6674]

2 grand 😢

[@terrybooya6132]

@tommyb6674 I feel for you Tommy!

[@stevenkerry3101]

well done mate that job has probably cost what the car is worth 👍👍

[@thecareditionltd]

Thank you 😊👍

[@AutomotiveDysfunction]

the car is not worth that money,, however great video and job well done

[@thecareditionltd]

Thank you 😊👍

[@vladimiratkinson1917]

1 hour 10mins to take an engine out 👀 What a Job!

[@likhwadube5937]

This guy no doubt knows what he’s doing, but a lot of the exaggeration is not necessary.

[@hahaha12345678993]

used to love BMWs as a kid, always wanted one until i was old enough to realize what he said, that you shouldnt be optimistic if you drive a BMW, you should be prepared for big bills

[@Jack_JJS]

Greta video lads, probably too longer to get all that plastic off than to get the engine out 😂 Merry Christmas lads 🤙

[@thecareditionltd]

Thank you 😊 Merry Christmas 🎄

[@ionutmih97]

Amazing work, very satisfying. How much was it total? They got everything done, lucky customer

[@crorazer132]

Always replace heat exchanger gasket and funnels when you have engine outside… Also balancer caps and water cooling flange on head

[@gordoncoburn5567]

Good Job

[@thecareditionltd]

Thank you 😊👍

[@waynetyson3951]

How do you remember where all the parts go back together?

[@Alex-dr6sv]

Sick video

[@thecareditionltd]

Thank you 😊👍

[@danmoney9932]

Amazing work but I think id have been sticking a used motor in (with a new chain kit). Fair play though the owner went pretty full in. I really hope for his sake the car isntt rusty! (My e91 was!)

[@cerberus30700]

top job!! -well done! :)

[@CrankCyclingChannel]

Surely the bill for this is gonna be more than the car is worth by at least double.

[@osianmeilyr89]

The M47 had the same issue with the inlet flaps. Best thing to do was remove them

[@sdgsdgafsdg4967]

@12:18 you used oil on PTFE crank seal, which is supposed to install dry and let it sit 12 hours to develop good seal !

[@desobrien3827]

How do you know if it is a PTFE oil seal? I do not think it is!

[@whaipas]

Its FPM

[@OwainPreece-ie6bb]

Luckily I'm still running an M57. What are the N57's like?

[@thecareditionltd]

In our experience, N57 is similar if not worse in terms of carbon build up. They also have timing chain issues however less common compared to N47 😊👍

[@OwainPreece-ie6bb]

@ thanks for that, maybe hold off on a F11 530d then and stick with my old E46 330d touring

[@terrybooya6132]

Same here M57 Best and longer car I've owned 👌

[@WilliamCurrie-p9t]

I’ve got an N47 , 126k miles, occasionally has a slow crank when starting but no timing chain noise. 63 plate had it since new and changed oil and filter regularly, still drives like new and will drive until it dies !

[@terrybooya6132]

@WilliamCurrie-p9t maintenance is the key - treat ot well and it will do the sane to you.

[@skyemooney]

I wish I owned this car, because in 20-30 years time I can stay Gytis from Car Edition rebuild this car, which will be worth a few pennies 😉 #superstar

[@garethevans3074]

This proves that if you throw enough money at a problem, it goes away!

[@seangreene64]

Reworked CLY HEAD & TURBO looks better that the entire engine & drive drain.

[@mickl8212]

Says it all, BMW

[@GrahamHenderson25x]

Epic !! 💪

[@thecareditionltd]

Thank you 😊👍

[@nikyclau3966]

That car is max 3 grand and owner is fixing it tfk😂😂 nice video by the way

[@thecareditionltd]

Thank you 😊👍

[@lanehogger1532]

Just knew that guy couldn’t help but show up 2.47😂

[@anesdj4282]

BMW, the bill is gonna be expensive Hell of job man! 😊

[@thecareditionltd]

Thank you 😊👍

[@leonidasgalanis7423]

Do you suggest to delete Egr and DPF or not ? About the turbo and chain will save some miles if changed the oil most often ?

[@abarratt8869]

The N47 - not BMW's finest moment. However, if looked after, they are actually quite good engines. I've had two. The first came from the factory with the timing chain issue. I had that done before it failed. The second had the revised chain guides from the factory, 200kmiles no problems so far. However, I will be changing the chain and guides soon; this is no longer an engine-out job (there's tools for the job), so it's not too hideous to do. Swirl flaps - yep, not the greatest thing either. Basically, it needs a new inlet manifold (which includes the swirl flaps) and a walnut blast every 100k at least. Turbos - well, that's down to how well and how often the oil changes are done. I've done mine every 10k regardless of what the car says, and no issues so far. So, definitely not an engine to tolerate a lack of maintenance. But, in this day and age, one really questions what's a good engine to have going forward. The N47 doesn't need Ad Blue - it's only Euro 5, not Euro 6 compliant. That means it is notably simpler to keep the emissions system up to scratch than the later engines. With a stock of inlet manifolds and chain guide kits and some maintenance dedication one could probably keep one of these going for a long, long while, in a largely tech-free car such as a 3 series which is an excellent daily driver in many regards.

[@danmoney9932]

Swirl flaps only in the higher power versions so it's one reason to avoid those 👍

[@Khaledghaffari]

M54 engine plz

[@dominikkozela9763]

I have an n47 with 2 snapped glow plugs and need to remove the cylinder head. Can I replace the head without removing the engine? I think I've seen it done before

[@brandon77020]

I had one where the timing chain snapped and bent all the valves and left it in the car, still have to remove gearbox for timing chains tho

[@dominikkozela9763]

@brandon77020 I've just replaced the head but haven't started it yet. All I did was put the engine in TDC, locked the cams and made a few marks with a paint pen.

[@Juozas_cbr]

Sucka blet!😂😂😂 Nice job bro!😉👌🍻

[@chongy9895]

5:50 exactly why i like petrol engines.

[@NigelMarchant-i8b]

That's my saying, champagne lifestyle lemonade wallet 😂😂😂

[@kiboendo3146]

Now you see what happens to an engine if you neglect maintenance. Disaster.

[@bobikzielarz]

This mechanic can fix a car using only a hammer and a tree stump.

[@thecareditionltd]

😁👍

[@thomasdeir6212]

Pre 2014 N47 were not great.

[@michaelw6277]

“When you drive a BMW you should not be optimistic.” Yeah this is why I drive a Toyota. It’s not as nice but you can’t put a price on optimism.

[@jacquesvanzyl374]

The "cap" is more reliable than the car

[@garyc6775]

My 118D 38000 mile on the clock, timing chain snapped, £5000+ , gear box replaced, god！！！i will never touch BMW again

[@terrybooya6132]

Had yaself a 🍋 there mate

[@jamesfearn7757]

No idea why youtube is recommending this to me - I struggled to changes 3 spark plugs on the wife's Aygo last year. Interesting nevertheless.

[@borislavtekyov4272]

BMW are reliable cars if you maintain them on time, no just drive untill everything fucked up.

[@scotspie501douglas7]

wow so so expensive

[@Sb99992]

Most cars now are only good for the lease. Everyone has been maming throwaway cars. Nightmare trying to buy a second hand car now.