BMW's entire EV lineup recalled for sudden power loss

BMW's entire EV lineup recalled for sudden power loss
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[@THirayama]

I work at the bmw plant in the United States. We make x3-4-5-6-7-m. They are planning to build a battery plant right here as well. Also, they are getting ready to get rid of some suppliers and making some of the stamping parts at this location. The funny thing is for me is that I owned a tesla and a lot of people inside the company cannot deal with the fact that I like electric vehicles. Now, the leadership at BMW are silent about that recall. I have asked a few people about it. Nobody talks about it. They play dumb or change the subject.

[@brunosmith6925]

Have you made plans for when BMW goes bankrupt?

[@_PatrickO]

It must piss those losers off that teslas have cameras. No more fucking with "foreign cars" in the parking lot. It is even worse at ford and gm plants. They harass coworkers for buying better cars if they are not the right brand and normally try to damage them, but can't with teslas and their cameras. It is bizarre loyalty to an employer that gives zero loyalty in return to deserve it.

[@AaronHope_Sow]

I was seriously wondering when they were going to retool Spartanburg. We have virtually no electric X models here. After the nationwide tour, I've only seen one iX in the wild. They are clearly focused on their low volume vehicles in the US until they have the capacity to build profitable higher volume models at scale (iX3)

[@ESUNintel]

Software is what scares me with German cars. I had a 2021 Mercedes (non-EV) and had to get rid of it because it was full of software gremlins. I was ok when weird things happened in the garage and local roads; but when it turned off on the highway going 70MPH and the screen said software error and I had to troubleshoot it in traffic to get it back on, that was the last straw and had to get rid of it. Most annoying, the dealer would always tell me they couldn’t find any records of the issues even though I had time stamps and had it recorded on dash cam (which one time they even said my dash cam might be causing the issue - typical dealer trying to pass the blame).

[@_PatrickO]

The only way to get service from legacy auto is to print out proof of a tsb, recall, or others having the same issue and give that to the mechanic when setting up service. A relative just had to do this to fix known issues on her shitty ford under her warranty. The shop refused to do it until confronted with a tsb number. If it happens to me, I am going straight to the manufacturer and having them tell the shop to fix it. The manufacturer is the one legally required to honor the warranty, not the dealerships. Dealerships will lie to you to your face about known tsbs and tell you a covered issue is magically not covered by the warranty. I drive a volt and will be switching to a tesla when the powertrain warranty expires mid 2024. It is not a car you can own out of warranty because they aren't making parts for it and can overcharge you on price for any part they still have in stock.

[@bradwright491]

I spent a ton of money on repairs of my 2006 BMW 5 series and eventually sold it after 9 years. It's unfortunate that they still can't design a reliable car even when moving to electric.

[@dangrass]

BMW really believes that extraordinary arrogance makes up for marginal engineering.

[@hfc3249]

I had the same experience. Bmw's are "High Maintenance" vehicles... Is not worth it, believe me...

[@rfleming7883]

BMW advertises in the U.S. media quite extensively. Tesla does not. This may explain why there is little coverage of this BMW recall.

[@musk-eteer9898]

with $$$ the main stream medias can and cannot spread any propaganda you want.

[@kevtheobald]

For over a decade BMW reliability has been an issue. Mini, a division of BMW is one of the worst brands when it comes to reliability. The brand loyalty BMW enjoys is a mystery to me. People who value image more than reliability might be the common factor.

[@icosthop9998]

*"The image is solid"* ❗️ Reliability is a thing of #BMW's past. A Rapper's Dream is to showcase a BMW in their driveway 🤗 🎊 🎉 🏆 🎉

[@davidmontu7929]

I drive a mini , the vehicle is absolutely garbage . Its a Waste of precious material and labor.

[@kevtheobald]

@@vincecarlo Thus why only 11,000 un8s sold last year. Nissan in general has issues.

[@thedualtransition6070]

Bought a Mini for my wife (now ex) in 2004, felt really solid and quality in the fixtures and its still running in 2023. Went back to look at Mini's a few years ago, and you could feel the drop in quality. Drove a 2002 BMW 3 series until I trashed it in an accident in 2014, great car. Now drive a 2014 223i a great little car - more like the old BMWs before they got supersized and over-tech'd. Will keep driving this for a few years, next car won't be a BMW.

[@wensiangfong]

When BMW start the E series , it start with a lot of computer module problem ..

[@universeisundernoobligatio3283]

Both my brother are mechanics, out of warranty BMWs repairs are a gold mine for them. They say only buy an out of warranty BMW if you have very deep pockets.

[@quirijnhaak4150]

True for almost all luxury cars these days

[@Thulebeez]

Early this month I went the Gym at the parking lot a lady was having issues with her IX3 bmw SUV , her front drivers door just couldn’t lock and it just a month old. I knew from that point that BMW electrical cars will not be reliable.

[@successtrainingservices9937]

Last year 2022 we had our 2010 BMW 750 towed and sold as parts. New the car sold for over 100k and we spent over 32K in repairs from 80k to 162k in miles. We junked it because even if we repaired 15k at best the car the car was only worth 10k. We replaced it with a Tesla Model Y performance. And it’s a flawless car.

[@nemeanlioness]

Stopped buying bmw when it overheated, found out the coolant pump fan which is made of plastic fell apart.

[@andreh.dupuis8475]

all those flagship european cars have a foreseable economical to repair lifespan of approx 8 to 10 years. You should keep that in mind when buying such a car

[@andreh.dupuis8475]

it would be interesting to evaluate the cost of ownership of a 10 year old Tesla model S for comparison. wonder how much it would be worth today.. Tesla model S came out in 2012.. so we cant fiind a 12 year old comparison..

[@Mantaracer]

Going from petrol to electric is really hard for some Gearheads! 🤣⚡

[@weszuber81]

"BMW owners can continue to drive their vehicles while waiting for a software update to fix the problem, the automaker says. The update will be provided by dealerships free of charge, and letters to affected owners’ vehicles will go out next month recommending they bring their vehicles in for a fix." - This incident just points out how important software design is. They obviously have not prioritized the basics -- This cannot be fixed with Over the Air Updates - Bad management, bad software team, lack of leadership and so on.. The bosses are not listening to the people doing the work, letting this garbage out in the real world - My guess is that the software team has no seat at the table when having important meetings on design and direction.

[@MarkXHolland]

BMW CEO recently said 'cars are not iPhones'. So there you have it.

[@weszuber81]

​@@MarkXHolland I wonder what the BMW CEO would say if he had to take his iPhone into the Genius Bar every time there was a bug and leave it with them for a week or so -- hey no problem Apple will give you a loaner phone..

[@Robert-cu9bm]

All cars have software problems. This is what happens when you go from design to mass production.

[@MarkXHolland]

@@Robert-cu9bm Tesla have far fewer software problems. They are a tech company.

[@pan6593]

This stuff applies at least also to Audi - first hand knowledge. Quite likely it applies to all legacy auto makers.

[@BigzampanoXXL]

I had a BMW 2 and 5, Audi a6 and a7, mercedes E and changed to Tesla…never go back.

[@icosthop9998]

Nice

[@Noah_E]

They should be recalled for those awful beaver teeth causing fellow drivers to see them in the rearview and having to pull over to vomit. That makes them a danger to everyone.

[@markcollins457]

A little sarcasm is a wonderful thing especially when the Germans are involved they can be serious to a fault.

[@icosthop9998]

LoL

[@PaleBlueDotCitizen]

EVs don't need front grilles. BMW: let's make our EV have grilles as humongous as we can as our main selling point

[@simongross3122]

Yeah, if ugliness was a virtue...

[@greghudson9717]

BMW reliability? I had a Z3 and it went into the dealer 35 times to get stuff fixed 😞

[@kairikkola]

Nice troll. I have -96 Z3, almost 200 tkm driven. No oil leaks, no rust. All electrics works, seats, windows. Even original shocks. What happened with those 35 times? 🤓

[@greghudson9717]

@@kairikkola No trolling here. I'm talking about my personal (bad) experience with that particular crappy 1996 American't BMW Z3 build quality (or lack of). I had 4 other (German) Beemers, all were good except the last one that blew a radiator hose. You have obviously had a good one (Z3). How did you get away without having any recall fixes (like the ones I had to do)? American build quality is renowned for being crappy, which is why I waited to get a chinese built Tesla Model Y. No faults so far - other than phantom braking, but this seems this is a common problem, not just with Tesla. I've spoken with owners of a 5 year old Mercedes C Class, and a 12 year old Volvo, both of which have experienced similar problems with braking when adaptive cruise control is enabled. I suspect it may just be a symptom of the system being 'too' sensitive IMO.

[@FutureSystem738]

@@greghudson9717 Similar experience here.

[@eugeniustheodidactus8890]

*THE COMPETITION IS COMING !!!* _.... the type of competition that will be sending their pissed off customers over the Tesla's showrooms...._

[@ramblerandy2397]

Why is there no kerfuffle over BMW's failure? Two words - advertising revenue. In my opinion it's a bit more complicated than that, but that's the bottom dollar. BMW buy advertising and media news companies have been bought.

[@ramblerandy2397]

Talking about quality and legacy auto competency, I took my VW ID3 into the dealer today ahead of their requiring it on Monday 23rd Jan 2023 [for those reading this down the years]. Because I have to work, I can't take it in on Monday, so today was the day. On exiting the 21 month old car and walking round it, I noticed that, not only was there a known big condensation issue on the nearside matrix headlamp, which the dealer knows all about, now the offside headlamp is sporting some too. And when I took the car in for its original recall date, just before Xmas, I was advised to pick it up the same evening as two ID3s and one ID4 had gone unresponsive after being given the same recall fixes. And I wanted my 100% functioning ID3 over Xmas week. So its gone now. It's a lease car, and I'm definitely not going to buy it outright. Actually, I never intended to. It was my first full BEV and I judged that far better ones will come along during my 3 years of stewardship. Tbh, the ID3 is a very nice car, but hugely let down by its awful software. I'm assured that the "issue" is now over. The dealer asked to keep the car FOR A WEEK, just in case there were any more foibles. They offered me a courtesy car - a VW Polo. Thanks, but no thanks. I'm not going back to ICE even for a week. I'll ride my e-bike. So, what's the recall? Replacement of 12V battery with a better one, and a software upgrade to the latest edition, which is V3.N [N for I can't remember exactly which version]. After that I should receive OTAs again. And have 2 new headlamps, of course. So not only did BMW get a free pass from the media, but VW did too. Which is kind of odd given that VW are famous for Dieselgate. I guess it helps that they're not called Tesla.

[@Noah_E]

The media hates Elon Musk for bringing free speech to Twitter. I am no Tesla fanboy due to their poor quality control, lack of concern for customer privacy (recording everything that happens in and around their cars), and anti-consumer stances when it comes to third-party repairs and parts availability. But you have to acknowledge how unfairly Tesla is treated by the media.

[@mauriziomauricone]

Imagine the FUD if this was Tesla… Makes you wonder what is really going on with the financial mainstream media.

[@gbearfan1670]

Sam, I've never been a big fan of BMW but I just wanted to let you know that we experienced the same power failure in our 20-day old Tesla Model Y LR on January 17th. My wife was driving to work during morning rush hour traffic on an interstate highway when the car just shut down a traumatized her. She blocked the center lane of traffic with cars zipping by on either side at 65+ mph. Panic stricken, she called me and I had her reboot the car (2 button restart) because the screen was still working. This worked and she made it to work safely after disrupting freeway traffic and upset hundreds of drivers.😟👎

[@williamgrunzweig571]

Car has cameras and it's always recording. Load it to your youtube account and let us all take a look.

[@gbearfan1670]

@@williamgrunzweig571 No can do, William. The thumb drive was unplugged to access the only USB-A port in the car for phone charging during her commute. Lesson learned. I've now added USB-C to USB-C cables for phone charging so the thumb drive will always be plugged in. BTW: The Tesla Service Center had our car for a day and a half and stated that it has a "known issue" that they are unable to address currently and we'll have to wait for an over the air update to correct it.

[@lordlee6473]

When the car shut down, was it like an ICE car running out of gas, that you can use the remaining momentum to change lane onto the shoulder, or was it a very quick deceleration that gave her no time to react? I want to know because we also have a Model Y and my wife also uses it as a commute car.

[@gbearfan1670]

@@lordlee6473 My wife said she didn't have time to react. The car just gave 3 quick beeps (like the ones you hear if you try to put the car in "drive" without pressing the brake) then flashed "shutting down now" on the screen and quickly slowed to a stop. She was then stuck in the center lane. We are thankful there was not a pileup that morning.

[@jonevansauthor]

That sounds terrifying. The only saving grace is that there's likely to be an OTA update, which many of the ICE manufacturers can't even do. Sensible move to got to USB-C cables for many reasons, but slightly surprising to hear they've got a thumb drive for doing this that people would remove just to charge a phone (because they don't just slap a couple of USB-A ports in there for all the legacy phone users).

[@goathouse2970]

I am new to your channel love the work you put into all the information, but the little cuts in the editing drive me crazy keep push to make the EV industry better and on the toes. Keep up the great work

[@jameshoffman552]

BMW is road-kill with Tesla's price cuts.

[@jameshoffman552]

Compare BMW's iX, i4, i5, i7, or iNauseum to Tesla M3 or MY. It's just embarrassing.

[@xrpo.g6855]

There is also a 2nd recall which basically states Fire Hazard and are advising everyone to park the cars away from structures & to not charge them. But yea... Tesla's "recalls" which are over the air updates repairable are the real problem vehicles . lol

[@chriauc2976]

That is the price of Luxury the BMW fanboys always talk about ?? They so luxurious…

[@Mantaracer]

Mainstream media is corrupt! They don't want to lose advertising from BMW...

[@vincestilla]

Wonder why I'm not seeing this BMW problem in main stream media outlets????...oh yeah, I forgot. It's not about Tesla lol.

[@sonicliberation]

If this chit was happening to Teslas the crooked media would be having a field day.

[@johnreese3762]

You're right Sam!!

[@avgjoe5969]

The gas joke was off-color, but the rest was spot on. Tesla would never hear the end of it.

[@pan6593]

Thanks, at least one.

[@salado53]

Why are they sticking with the ugly kidney facia?

[@stepheneasson9787]

Did you also hear that the UK police have stopped buying BMWs because they have been going on fire, sadly one officer lost his life. But still this is not being reported by main stream news.

[@ulyden1947]

Korrekt is BMW is not selling the police cars to UK anymore.. The use is not good for the engine. Its hours of idling and then full power.

[@jameshoffman552]

6:36 Love the irony and sarcasm in this episode.

[@icosthop9998]

Are you sure it is not 6:20 ❔️ *"it is Tesla's fault"* ❕️ LoL

[@pan6593]

Was looking for, if somebody really does. Interesting.

[@toguro1009]

6:38 Great idea, Sam. Klauss Schwab and John Kerry should take a road trip in that car.

[@nickmcconnell1291]

Oooohhh….major snark. LOL Yeah I can’t be sad for BMW. They should know better and do better.

[@markcollins457]

The reason you don't hear much backlash about BMW recall is because Rupert Murdock is heavily supported by BMW.

[@icosthop9998]

I hope Sam sees your comment.

[@DLWELD]

I think all modern BMW's should be recalled to replace that swollen kidney grill

[@simongross3122]

German cars are famous for power loss even if they are ICE cars. VW had a huge problem with this a few years ago, which they spent a lot of money denying. People lost their lives due to this problem. I've experienced the power loss myself (although I am still alive, I think) and it is frightening. I can't wait to get rid of my VW, and I will probably never buy another.

[@jameshoffman552]

I like the i3 (the only BMW I like) - it's the most nimble car I've ever driven, and when the range extender kicks in, it makes it seem like I'm in an airplane. It's not that practical, but fun.

[@viktorb6530]

Been loving my two i3. But now BMW have stopped pruducing them and think their customers wants just big SUV:s. BMW:s current electric cars leaves me cold 🥶 Will buy a Model 3 👍🏻

[@sonicliberation]

I love the i3 too. I wish BMW would have continued development of the platform and done away with it’s thin tires. A Fantastic, underrated car IMO.

[@martshearer498]

Not that Sam's wrong, since the i3 is no longer in the lineup, but it's not involved in the recall.

[@Lovejazz01]

There was literally no reason why BMW couldn’t just continue to sell the i3 at a cheaper price than the i4s ..

[@musk-eteer9898]

is that the small boxy one with 4 bicycle tires?

[@FutureSystem738]

I would never, ever own another BMW. Seen that, done that been there. You can’t use reliability and BMW in the same sentence.

[@lukabosnjak3829]

Can anyone confirm that RWD Model Y in EU has Matrix lights hardware?

[@jameshoffman552]

BMW's i4, i7, and iX -- all under the iBrick umbrella.

[@NoWastedCalories]

BMW is leading in recalls

[@magny62]

My Tesla adaptive cruise controle fails every day, Iesla says it will be better with every update/ But the problems goes on and on and is scaring.....

[@Noah_E]

How does it fail? My last two and my SO's latest cars had adaptive cruise and automatic braking. They work well other than occasionally mistaking lines in the road for obstacles, deactivating in direct sunlight, or screaming when the sensors for the RAB get dirty. All three were Subarus and those situations make sense so I wouldn't consider them a problem.

[@magny62]

@@Noah_E My Tesla model S P100 D full options brakes on the highway without reason. you never can drive really relaxed. The partly autonomic features were the biggest disappointments on the Tesla. In general it is a smart car when you consider how long it is on the market. But because of this problem, the bad aftersales experiences and the rattles you hear I will not buy a second one. Focus for my next car will be efficiency and comfort.

[@petersimms4982]

I recon fools will still carry on buying clown cars 🤔

[@SmithsMobile]

I wonder if the reason the media aren't all over this is because BMW advertise with them... hmmmm No that's just a stupid idea it couldn't be true.

[@tribalypredisposed]

Yeah, and sure there is media bias here, but also the issue only affects a few people, fifteen or twenty thousand, and not the several million people a similar Tesla issue would affect.

[@icosthop9998]

The main reason

[@SmithsMobile]

@@tribalypredisposed 99% of Tesla recalls have just been software updates, other manufacturers are green with envy

[@sebastiant5695]

Nah, reporting about a BMW recall is like reporting the night is dark. It's just common knowledge, there is a recall every couple of months. You can't sell much clickbait with those stories anymore.

[@flaymil5373]

I have not heard this yet on mainstream media

[@heater5979]

Around here my friends call them "BMTroubleyou".

[@FranciscoRamirez-gb6zc]

You are right. I had a BMW and at 45k miles all the seals melted yes melted. And all the plastics in the intake pipes got damage to include the sensors. I had so many problems I don’t recommend no one to get a bmw. By 80k the time chain guide made of plastic was breaking plus the valve cover needed to be replace. BMW is a bunch of cheap plastic that breaks easy. Garbage

[@trevorlees1241]

BMW stands for Businessman’s Money Worry !

[@Lovejazz01]

Most newer cars , some of the biggest problems are with the electronics and software , they all make great vehicles , and they all think they’ll just deal with the electronics and software problems later because they all have great service, who probably don’t know anything but just to replace a module or display..

[@Eagles_Eye]

They will fix that with an over the air update, right? Right!?

[@bimmer100timc]

Correct, I did the update already. Easy quick fix. Not a big deal at all. I own a Tesla model 3 too… actually have two i4 m50’s… the model 3 is the dog car :)

[@Eagles_Eye]

@@bimmer100timc if it’s fixed with an over the air update. Then that should be seen as a complete non issue just like tesla “ recalls “ by over the air update aren’t actual recalls. So. Good on BMW using that. Thanks for letting me know

[@qilu2004]

bmw and mercedes will for sure be leading on pricing, on the wrong side. there will be plenty of rich people who don't mind paying 200k usd on them. but the majority population everywhere still want a 20k ev.

[@theairstig9164]

I hate to say this but here goes. After over 100 years of mass produced personal transportation, welcome to your new green future

[@chrisheath2637]

Ah software problem, so an over the air update will fix it... oh wait, it's not a Tesla...

[@jsanders100]

Those BMWs are ugly cars 🚗

[@bimmer100timc]

Fixed with over the air update. Just did the update to my i4 m50… anyhow….😂

[@thedarkknight1971]

I REFUSE to buy a LOT of new cars because... A LOT OF tech, features and, ahem, 'Luxuries' that are ALREADY installed/fitted to the car ARE NOT 'Ready to use', and so you HAVE to sign up for 'Subscriptions' (monthly or yearly) to use them. At one time it was a case you bought the car outright, you KNEW what it had/could do, and, it was yours with EVERYTHING working, the ONLY thing you really needed to pay extra on a regular/subscription basis was - the inbuilt SatNav... NOW.. It's Heated seats, heated steering wheel, massaging seats, linking up this, mood lighting that, luxury the other, power modes whatever... Go to ANY car manufacturers website, pick a mid to top level model, 'Spec it up' and look at all the features you COULD/CAN have, and then see how much all those 'Little extras' add up to a huge amount of $/£ per month/year. IT'S RIDICULOUS!. IT'S ALL INSTALLED IN THE FECKIN CAR ALREADY! But, if you want those extras you have to pay extra just to feckin use them!!! They are doing it on Motorcycles too! BMW do it, KTM and their rip off 'Demo Mode' - you get ALL features like rider aids, power modes etc etc for the first 1,500Kms/932 Miles, that then, the next time you turn that key to start your bike up, those 'Extras'?? Yeah.. They JUST STOP WORKING/DISAPPEAR 😠. You either just 'Lump it' and continue owning and riding a 'Disabled' bike or, go to an official KTM dealer and pay for the features you want unlocked again. AND NO, even though you CAN connect your KTM 890 Adventure R to your mobile phone, NO, you CAN'T just go online to KTM website, select the features, pay up, and then get your phone to tell your bike to unlock them (a lot of modern bikes have a phone link system). It's like these manufacturers are a kind of Mafia, want their hands in everything you do, con us, extort from us, and, control what we do with OUR vehicles. Like with cars, motorbikes, phones, tablets/other tech, at some point everything else... IF you buy it OUTRIGHT.. IT SHOULD BE YOURS OUTRIGHT.... 😠 So NO... They can GET FECKED...STUFF their new cars (and some new bikes), I'll save the planet MY WAY by buying second hand, maintaining it, and... Enjoying ALL the built in features WITH NO EXTRA COST! It's like this right to repair, the best way to stop MOST of the stuff we have ending up in landfills/tips, is by repairing and continuing to use the stuff we have with LESS WASTE, BUT NO, manufacturers prefer if you, buy new, use, accidentally drop (damage/crack screen) or wet damage your phone/tablet/lappy/whatever, just chuck it in the bin and then go and buy new again. COSTLY. WASTEFUL. HARMFUL. DAMAGING. 😠😠😠 😎🇬🇧

[@sebastiant5695]

Nothing new for BMW here, had a 3-series with gasoline engines which just stopped randomly running while driving.

[@PD55_]

Its hard to make bulletproof software. But even Jeff Bezos was obsessed with eliminating bugs in Amazon's software, he realized one bug could affect millions of customers, losing customer confidence, impacting sales. A culture of quality control starts at the top. Expect chronic sotware problems from an industry typically focused on stock prices and executive bonuses.

[@tribalypredisposed]

To be fair, Berlin automaker software versus Silicon Valley tech company software, who is going to have superior software is inevitable regardless of corporate culture. As I pointed out for many years when arguing online with the hordes who thought these German automakers would crush Tesla as soon as they decided to make EVs.

[@PD55_]

@@tribalypredisposed After spending 30 years in corporate IT, quality is not an accident. Regardless of industry or country. German work ethic, appreciation for quality craftsmanship and precision engineering is wasted if driven off track by short term financial priorities.

[@PD55_]

@@tribalypredisposed and yes most American software is pretty crappy good fault-tolerant software is uncommon

[@mark123655]

Definitely class leading (but not in the right way) in terms of price Vs performance

[@frankcoffey]

Even when it’s an EV it’s still a BMW so yeah, it’s going to break.

[@noleftturns]

Batteries make/break Evs. That's why when I see "New battery technology - game changer," I know is click bait and 1 in 100 will make it to production after a long testing period.

[@spiritedgarage]

Well atleast they're staying on brand, unreliable. 😅

[@icosthop9998]

LoL . 6:20 *"it is Tesla's fault"* ❕️ LoL

[@jimmydeneus7109]

Bmw making da best electric cars on earth 💯

[@tomlavoie6540]

My i3 died while driving at 50 miles per hour. Took BMW 11 days to replace the electronic card that had fried.

[@Robert-cu9bm]

You'd still be waiting if it was Tesla.

[@tomlavoie6540]

Never would have failed to begin with. BMWs are a maintenance nightmare.

[@jimjacques8058]

Why spend the money to make an excellent product when advertising can convince the "Target Market" to buy "almost good" for half the expense. You can sell dog poop as a skin treatment with the "Right" Advertising ... Just ask the advertisers.

[@Ronnieleec]

Wow

[@QuiLe-qw5jb]

💯👍👍👍

[@nemesis1134]

Now that a fast moving race already underway they are realizing A it wasn't so easy & B to stop relying on media opinions as if they mattered ...'just wait till they get to making EVs' - Well the race started years ago and they are they didn't have a chance to stretch properly and are now paying the price of rushing. Marketing alone will never make their cars better EVs.

[@tribalypredisposed]

Except they didn't rush. BMW started developing these EVs in 2018 or even earlier, making the announcement they were going to spend a billion dollars or so developing a new shared platform to use on ICE, hybrid, and EV cars. Likely they started working on the project long before the announcement. I told everyone at the time that the BMW EVs based on a shared platform would suck. There is no way to make a competitive EV on a shared platform, you end up with a much heavier car with that hump in the floor for the transmission on the ICE version existing for the EVs too.

[@quantumeyes8546]

I only see some certain guys who are scammers, fraudsters, bought used BMWs to bluff their victims-to-be.

[@rogerfroud300]

You might want to edit out that comment about Germans not gassing people any more...

[@francoischarbonneau9447]

Too soon?

[@isaksidenius7059]

1. News about BMW does not sell well 2. BMW Pays a lot to medias

[@petersimms4982]

The British police force have just scrapped all their series 5 diesels due to dpf fires! So they've no chance with EV s , overrated!

[@cornelstamate2537]

gm will bankrupt in 2027 at the aniversary of 40 years since they destroied all ev1 models.

[@petersimms4982]

The British police replaced it's BMW s with Chinese owned Volvos 😆

[@nemeanlioness]

Buwahahahha pay a premium and no over the air update.

[@shalvami]

BYD SEAL weight 2300kg, all other BYDs are manufactured based of gasoline cars. No Chinese EV weighs less than 2000 kg, Nothing drives like BMW, plus no-one will recall Chinese cars even if they have problems

[@whocares264]

I have a bmw i3 you can't open the rear windows , because it is a bmw it's ok ..

[@theandersonfamily4245]

Germans don’t gas people anymore! Viking!!!!!! 😂

[@andrerodriguez7603]

Same here. I have a Model 3 now, superior car to the BMW.

[@markgold5408]

OK. Stop already. I know you love Tesla, but.. come on. I have an iX and it had this recall. They came to my house, did a software update, and voila, no more problem.

[@AlexeySavva]

They can't do it remotely? Insane

[@teem5642]

@@AlexeySavva you can update ota. With tesla, some recalls have required you going in to get the issues fixed. Yal act like tesla updates literally every issue ota. Tyre puncture ota etc 😂ota exists on many manufacturers now

[@austinzizzi1142]

Oops 😂

[@dragonbot2038]

I HATE BMWs.. I had 535 ICE car. one their most popular; this car was in the shop for different repairs about 3 times every year. I spent over $10K in 4 year. Ridiculous QA.

[@musk-eteer9898]

no wonder the german lost both WW

[@tonyperone3242]

New technologies sometimes come with bugs to fix. Not a big issue.

[@Cassp0nk]

Exactly. All the Tesla fan club getting sweaty about this disregarding their cars have interiors from a 30k budget car.

[@alsimcoe3539]

What would be the impact on the market if Ford Lightning announced they would adopt NACS charging ahead of Cybertruck release? The legacy sacred ground of pickups is about to be invaded!

[@borshardsd]

Idk, it's a turn off to buy an ev with no dedicated charging network. If 3rd party charging was closer to tesla charger reliability and abundance it'd be different. For me imho. I hope Ford kicks butt for the ev movement though

[@whowhy9023]

@@borshardsd Ford has made a couple of thousand pickups. They are irrelevant. Ford will not make it past 2024.

[@borshardsd]

@Who Why hoping for ev success to all, but definitely see your point and do not disagree on the possibility of your prediction.

[@rookiebird9382]

fun fact: bmw is still reinventing its grille on ev platforms

[@ulyden1947]

No Model S had it first!

[@rookiebird9382]

@@ulyden1947 not anymore. tesla is not so obsessed with a fake grille as bmw

[@ulyden1947]

@@rookiebird9382 Maybe the newer ones don't have it but the first had a fake grill. So Tesla reinvented the grill on EV first. The first S was planned as a hybrid. Probably reason for reinventing the frunk like vw had in the 50 and 60s

[@rookiebird9382]

@@ulyden1947 where did you read about model s originally planned as a hybrid?

[@ulyden1947]

@@rookiebird9382 I have had this discussion several times long time ago and I had a link to the statement.Cant find it now. It was early when (2007?) Mercedes and Toyota was involved in Tesla. It might have been the prius tek that was planned. Later Tesla decided to go full electric on model S

[@tedg1609]

BMW should have become an EV champion. They engineered a great carbon fiber EV car, but made is so ugly nobody wanted to be seen driving it. If that car looked cool, BMW could be an industry leader today. Now they are just the laggard.

[@MatrixJiuJitsu]

Who’s #2,3,4,5 in the EV market in the coming years? Really interesting question imo!

[@poneill65]

My BMW Z3 hasn't had a single serious problem in 21 years. Just a small handful of minor maintenance replacements (shock, sensors). So, there's a contrary personal anecdote for you,.. proving such comments are of no value.

[@tribalypredisposed]

The BMW is NOT made on a gas car platform, it is worse than that, it is made on a shared platform designed from scratch to be used for their ICE, hybrid, and electric cars. They spent years developing the platform to make awful extremely heavy EVs....

[@the_starlinkway7821]

Tesla going to $200 by mid year and if Cyber truck is out. You bet they gonna be selling like pancakes

[@philjklew]

At least no one got seriously injured before they made the recall! Never read about this in my usual sources of info. No doubt Tesla seems to generate more stories, good or bad. Just read today that repairers are finding that more recent Tesla MYP are being fitted with downgraded smaller brakes (from Brembo to Mando) and covering them up with covers to make them look larger. I have a Tesla MY RWD on order. A little concerned if Tesla are doing something similar to my model. Are Tesla downgrading various components due to their recent price cuts?

[@bh-zj4yt]

LOL. BMW fanboys giving lectures on reliability

[@bm5906]

The BMW X5 (actually the entire X line) never earned any glowing reviews. Sorry you had problems, as did many.

[@vancity2349]

BMW arrogance... class leading in battery issues and recalls....

[@musk-eteer9898]

why am i not hear any of this news on main stream channel propagandas

[@icosthop9998]

*"The **#BMW** image is solid"* ❗️ A Rapper's Dream is to showcase a BMW in their driveway 🤗 🎵 🎊 🎉 🏆 🎉 🎶 Reliability is a thing of #BMW's past. But while that car is being repaired (again) "Be seen" going about in the *"Benzzz"* 😎 👍

[@ulyden1947]

I hope you by a tesla soon! You deserve it. Fits perfect in a Tesla