Camilla - "I'd own like, 10 Tic Tac Toes before I'd own like, chess or something." The sheer contrarianism of this statement hurts my brain so much.
@guillermoz4914 Жыл бұрын
Sorry Camilla, but tic-tac-toe over chess?! No way 😆 & I hate chess 😅 Great video as always, Thank You 🙏🏽
@43bg1 Жыл бұрын
For the record, the problem with Connect 4 is that it's a "solved game" like tic-tac-toe. It's more complicated, but if the first player plays correctly they can't lose.
@vexienroe Жыл бұрын
They can't lose but they can tie, just like tic tac toe. Which yeah isn't fun.
@nicholasimholte735910 ай бұрын
@@vexienroe No, there's a forced win. First player wins going first if they play "Perfectly".
@penguinvader70575 ай бұрын
being a solved game is hardly a problem if there is no feasible way to memorize it for a human, which as far as I know is the case for connect 4. the problem with tic tac toe isn't that it's solved, it's that the solution is extremely easy to learn for anyone.
@43bg15 ай бұрын
@@penguinvader7057 Nobody can memorize every possible position in Connect 4, but I think you could learn the patterns to always winning.
@ProfArmitage218 Жыл бұрын
This video kept making me think of Arnold Rimmer from the British science fiction comedy "Red Dwarf". He kept a detailed diary of every game of Risk he had ever played, down to the specific die rolls, so he could relive his greatest "victories" any time he wanted.
@dawsondemars1092 Жыл бұрын
I work at a game store, and one of our distributers literally used Killer Bunnies as packing material for other board games so we got stuck with like 6 copies of Killer Bunnies
@MathMagicianSam Жыл бұрын
I wish that there was a way to have these available for vote in the evenings. I'll never be able to vote when these are during the day. Maybe they are just euro friendly :)
@Atlasfilms08 Жыл бұрын
The joke about the top 8 being a great way to start your collection has me wanting one of these brackets with 64 of the most popular modern gateway games to determine which is the best.
@mrjombi Жыл бұрын
Electronic Battleship is more than just sounds added. It has a person announcing the hits and misses, three levels of skill, and more importantly it allows you to play an advanced game in which you can program your special powers such aa launching aircraft and torpedo launches. There’s more strategy and this is how we usually play it here. I have two different Electronic Battleship games, standard and one in which one player or AI plays as the alien team so the ships are radically different looking.
@robertdascoli949 Жыл бұрын
I was really hoping this would be a red letter media crossover
@freeheeler00 Жыл бұрын
The Best of the Hack Frauds ;)
@andrewwdavvid Жыл бұрын
Very glad to know this venn diagram exists and isn’t just me
@Legitster Жыл бұрын
Did you watch their VHS review?
@notboardatall-yw6vh Жыл бұрын
Same
@noizeemama36979 ай бұрын
Monkees movies. Did you know they named the first movie "Head" just so when the second one came out they could say, "From the people that gave you Head..."
@JosephFlemming Жыл бұрын
I owned a 4x4 3D tic-tac-toe that let you build in up and diagonally etc. crazy crazy spatial game
@EfrainRiveraJunior Жыл бұрын
I would love to see a high-quality deluxe version of Mouse Trap.
@maxpower8973 Жыл бұрын
I like Joey, and "Act like you can't even," 40:47 has to be in his top 5 jokes to date!
@klapaucius7339 Жыл бұрын
I realize this may not be popular, but I absolutely love Killer Bunnies. But I don't play to win. I play to kill. This is not a game to take seriously. We get a big group, drink beer and laugh like crazy. Where else can I use melba toast as a weapon?
@BluSnafu2 күн бұрын
The only 4-player Crossfire-like game I can think of is one from the 90s called Battle Dome. Its like 4-way pinball with a mechanism that drops marbles from the top and people try and keep them from falling into their side; person with the fewest marbles wins the round.
@Rhonna_Roo4 ай бұрын
I had a hangman game that had 2 things battleship. You had letter tiles and put your word on top facing you. As they guess letters you flip to your opponent so they can see. If the are wrong they is a dial you turn that shows the head x or the body etc on the side your opponent sees. Played all the time!
@IndependentOutsider Жыл бұрын
I still play Yahtzee on Board Game Arena. Not only does Yahtzee bring back the nostalgia of family game night, it also has enough decisions to make it a game ad NOT just a game mechanic. Yahtzee is the OG of roll and write games in a world where all the sudden roll and write has become hip. I'd rate Yahtzee a 6.5
@timometsanoja9666 Жыл бұрын
You guys should do prefilled brackets for this and see who got the most correct... Bragging rights or something on the line. I bet it would be fun for us fans at least...
@VaultBoy13 Жыл бұрын
They've done it in the past, and it's pretty boring to watch.
@cay6857 Жыл бұрын
I hated playing Monopoly as a kid, and I still do. I played Perfection over and over until I was finally able to get all the shapes into their spaces before the timer ended and the board popped up. I never played it again after that. This was a great video. I was laughing out loud through most of it. Thank you!
@lorinan Жыл бұрын
Love Yahtzee. I used it to teach with my English Game Nights when I taught in China. The students loved it. (Also, Phase 10 is excellent and the fact it didn't win is a travesty).
@JonoNZBoardGamer Жыл бұрын
3D connect 4 was my jam as a kid! The spatial puzzle was significantly improved with the extra D haha
@alisonwentland376510 ай бұрын
Laughing hysterically over Speak Out and “accessories”. Thank you! 🤣
@mrjombi Жыл бұрын
I had many of these games growing up but to be fair many of these are children’s games. At a 6 to 10 year old level these are terrific games, they just don’t hold up to adult sensibilities. So it’s almost unfair to have adults ranking these. The question should be how do children rank them, which would require taking the games clearly made for a young kid and have them on a separate list. I played Cooties, Mousetrap, Barrel of Monkeys and Ants in the Pants often and would have ranked them very high when I was 7. Much lower now of course. So just saying this list is a bit unfair to the children’s games on it.
@speedandstyletony Жыл бұрын
I like Yahtzee but I prefer Kismit which is Yahtzee with colors! It also has a sentimental value for me as I used to play it with my uncle when I was a kid.
@darrenpellichino2923 Жыл бұрын
Electronic football may be the first game where people painted their miniatures. My uncle had the pitsburg steelers all painted with the names and numbers all matching the 75 team. Also it was 1975.
@searose619211 ай бұрын
I am definitely not a spotlight kind of person, but I have had many fun games of charades. Of course, tons with my kids and family. Also one game, my brother and I had recently binge watched the entirety of the show Friends over the previous year. That winter, at a Christmas party everyone was playing charades and my brother and I were on a team. We used Friends references for EVERY turn the entire game and we totally CRUSHED it. If anyone is a fan of Friends we were doing things like crouching down on the floor and pretending to shovel food in our mouths for “cheesecake”. Everyone else was so confused. Absolutely one of my best memories with my brother. It’s was a blast. So charades, even though I would never want to play it with strangers, can be super fun with family.
@petercsm5769 Жыл бұрын
These brackets are some of my favorite videos, even with the inexplicable voter love for Game of Life. Does that make me a goth?
@petercsm5769 Жыл бұрын
Sorry I missed this live. I didn't even get Quelf as a gift. I got its knockoff Furt.
@_Cervantez Жыл бұрын
Wait, top trumps is supposed to be played like war?! I had dozens of decks as a kid and we always played it so the winner of the last "trick" looked at their card and chose the stat to compare
@checkrazor76 Жыл бұрын
Holy shizzy I own A LOT of bad games.
@noizeemama36979 ай бұрын
I hate tic tac toe but have a wooden set I found at an estate sale. It's cats!
@JosephFlemming Жыл бұрын
once at a company banquet, my manager brought out LCR and we played at our table to pass the time before the meal began, and I found out it's 100% luck. I don't consider it nor any other 100% luck games, a game!
@krahnjp Жыл бұрын
So many of these, while not inherently good games, are extremely easy to adapt to an educational game for very young kids
@krahnjp Жыл бұрын
Maybe already done, but a good related top ten. top ten underdogs, games NOT in BGGs top 1000, or (5000 to make it harder)
@paulmccaffrey2985 Жыл бұрын
I don't think anybody really cares about winning in Killer Bunnies. It's all about the cartoony play and the goofy cards. The cards are hilarious!
@ShuffleUpandDeal32 Жыл бұрын
That was a total fix against Phase 10! lol
@EfrainRiveraJunior Жыл бұрын
I still play Yahtzee, The Game of Life 1982, and Battleship.
@rexology_bg Жыл бұрын
I am still bitter towards Hungry Hungry Hippos because my older brother always insisted on being the green hippo. Only years later did I realise that it was because the board tilted towards green.
@JosephFlemming Жыл бұрын
we HATED Tribond years ago. Today we still hate So Clover. It just isn't fun to come up with similarities for two dissimilar things. ESPECIALLY three.
@JosephFlemming Жыл бұрын
I haven't played Uno Hearts, but Uno Triple Play I think is the best version. More strategy chances with 3 discard piles [but also some press your luck!]
@JosephFlemming Жыл бұрын
Parcheesi is better than Trouble for sure [more strategy] but it's not as fun as Life. Components matter!
@TylerAndToast Жыл бұрын
Camilla dies on some odd hills
@ramonosuke8 ай бұрын
Man this was hilarious. Joey and Camilla's banter feed off each other so well. Also most of these are mainly kids and mass market games. Wish more actual terrible games like Mega Man, Dirty Minds or Fluxx made the list
@jeremyferris2844 Жыл бұрын
My spill the beans had real beans. (Red beans) circa 1986 i would geuss.
@ticotube2501 Жыл бұрын
Camilla, seriously... Just by watching the package of this abomination of a game at 9:00 I feel an urge to run out of the room. I'd rather play Kackeldackel that that.
@EfrainRiveraJunior Жыл бұрын
Sadly, as Tom once said, the hobby comes with a certain degree of snobbery. Half of these games were voted down by gamers that pride themselves on not playing "Those types of games."
@elvispresleydaily3952 Жыл бұрын
Cause they suck
@EfrainRiveraJunior Жыл бұрын
@@andrethannhauser6302 - You proved Tom's point. 😉
@terry3733H Жыл бұрын
I wonder what Mike would pick?
@EfrainRiveraJunior Жыл бұрын
@@terry3733H - Mike? Among these games? He mentioned on the live chat Yahtzee as his pick.
@EfrainRiveraJunior Жыл бұрын
@@andrethannhauser6302 - The real question is, are they fun? Once again, going back to Tom's point, snobbery can get in the way of that.
@EfrainRiveraJunior Жыл бұрын
I would place The Game of Life 1982 at the top of the list. The betting wheel is so much fun.
@evanstrong4064 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't play speak out with even my closest love ones and SO . do you share the moutpiece? so gross.
@Haytidaho Жыл бұрын
I owned Electronic Battleship and it was a treat (just like inferno island was a treat) :)
@MisterChris1978 Жыл бұрын
You guys underestimate the power of nostalgia. The game of life is dense with it.
@joshestes6427 Жыл бұрын
When Zee said well "the thing is I haven't played Pay Day", I was waiting for him to say, but the thing is I have played Sorry to follow it up;)
@BodgeAttack8 ай бұрын
I lost it at 1:21:58 🤣🤣🤣
@garicb9271Ай бұрын
You should try 3 dimensional tic-tac-toe sometime.
@Mussar523 Жыл бұрын
There is too much hate for Monopoly. I grew uop in the 70's with it and it was our favorite for many years and gave us many hours of enjoyment. SO the fact that there is today better mechanics and modern themed games we shouldn't just ake fun of it. It should be in the hall of fame and leave it at that.
@VaultBoy13 Жыл бұрын
I played it in the 80s and hated it. My dislike of the game has nothing to do with new design and mechanisms. Monopoly has always been crap.
@chrismyers9897 Жыл бұрын
I have a super huge soft spot for Oregon trail the card game. It's actually super fun and funny and light. Way to good to be here.
@andrewellis712 Жыл бұрын
That is without a doubt the worst game I have ever played
@nicholasimholte73593 ай бұрын
I just played Sorry with Ice/Fire. It was pretty bad.
@JosephFlemming Жыл бұрын
Never played Crossfire... but Battleship can be fun, esp with some of the variants.
@janahuysmans Жыл бұрын
Surprised by how many i didn't know, so clearly more US oriented. Also had some fun memories of games I had completely forgotten about, cool.
@KingsElite56 Жыл бұрын
I was sure Crossfire would go all the way but Yahtzee is a respectable choice!
@Wh0isTh3D0ct0r Жыл бұрын
Just played Elder Sign with the family last night….That’s basically Yahtzee. 😂
@bloodrunsclear4 ай бұрын
This is strangely nostalgic XD
@sherizaahd Жыл бұрын
!!! Crossfire loses to Battleship?!?!?! what?
@charlesbarthel4329 Жыл бұрын
If you think Game of Life the Board game is bad, download the newer apps of it. If I hadn't been forced to play it I would have never believed somebody could find a way to make the game of Life even worse.
@thetanil3702 Жыл бұрын
The car salesman needs a special compressor just for his mic
@redmageviewer Жыл бұрын
Uno is my favorite from this grouping. Plenty of fun moments with the family.
@odditie Жыл бұрын
I feel like many of these games could be great games today for hobby gamers with just a few changes. We need Mouse Trap Second Edition!
@Bodyknock Жыл бұрын
I'd rate Yahtzee a 6, it's a fun little game but not one I go out of my way to play. The 5.5 on BGG seems pretty fair.
@garettsuperloser804 Жыл бұрын
OTRIO, is my copy of tic tac toe... it's nice bamboo.
@koalabrownie Жыл бұрын
Tic Tac Toe is solved but whatabout Gobblet Gobblers
@VindoViper Жыл бұрын
Battleship made it way further than it should have. It essentially just comes down to guess a number, hope it's the right one! Zero strategy and doesn't teach any important game mechanics. At least Yahtzee helps teach dice probability which is an important concept for so many games.
@VaultBoy13 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes all that matters is that the players have fun. Who cares whether a game teaches people "important" game mechanics?
@justanerd1138 Жыл бұрын
This was fun to watch.
@jasonsmith1133 Жыл бұрын
Go For Broke is one of my favorite games. Love it.
@InsteadoftheLaundry Жыл бұрын
Am I the only person that plays LCR with cash instead of chips, making it the greatest party game of all times??
@user-ts8er2zr6l Жыл бұрын
to liven up LCR use $1 bills OR $5
@Draffut2003 Жыл бұрын
Was #65 Terra Mystica?
@kylemartin7871 Жыл бұрын
11:40 the people have spoken - Rock Em Sock Em Robots is better than Rise of Augustus.
@HarryBuddhaPalm Жыл бұрын
BGG sucks. Most of these games aren't bad. They're just made for children. If a game isn't a heavy, Euro worker placement with fifty tracks on in that requires a phd in mathematics to determine your score at the end, those BGG neckbeards think it's peasant tripe.
@VaultBoy13 Жыл бұрын
Then how does that explain the high rated children's games on BGG? Is it possible that War is just a bad game? Is there any reason a Boolean generator needs to take that long? A coin flip would expedite the process and have the same result. If you're playing hundreds if not thousands of games (including children's games), you're going to be able to better separate the wheat from the chaff. - Loopin' Louie is the better Hungry, Hungry Hippos - Monza is the better Candy Land Also, what you're seeing (in general) aren't games that are panned by BGG. They're games that are ranked as "average". The reason they're clustered at the bottom is because a lot of people have played them. The truly bad game likely aren't played by enough BGG users to even get them ranked.
@LawrenceMiles1972 Жыл бұрын
"Hungry Hungry Hippos Legacy".
@ScytheNoire Жыл бұрын
Drills should not used for putting screws into the wall, they are used for drilling. You use drivers for putting in screws, such as screwdrivers or impact driver. Tom just failed Battle of the Sexes.
@thedicetower Жыл бұрын
Ok. I apologize.
@Jason-ul2xv Жыл бұрын
Good fun!
@txsportsfreak02 Жыл бұрын
I loved electronic football.
@stibbsta6828 Жыл бұрын
So after all that we end up with a roll and write? Man… 😏
@JosephFlemming Жыл бұрын
Risk has more strategy than Yahtzee, but it is punishing and way too long.
@noizeemama36979 ай бұрын
Word Yahtzee is even better!
@AgusSkywalker Жыл бұрын
I really like Battlesheep
@debbieholecek3293 Жыл бұрын
I love phase 10😊
@garys4067 Жыл бұрын
Phase 10 may not be a great game, but it's no where near as bad as Tom says.
@VaultBoy13 Жыл бұрын
Phase 10 has a significant design flaw with the catch-up mechanisms. This design flaw takes what would typically be a 7 round game (Contract Rummy), and turns it into a plodding experience. Unlike Contract Rummy where all players proceed to the next contract, Phase 10 requires each player to complete every phase in order to compete for a win. The phases progressing in difficulty mean there's already a catch-up mechanism in place for the game. The 7 round game gets bumped to 10 and then tacks on 5-10 more rounds. But, the game doesn't stop there... The game uses Skip cards to further drag down the leading player(s) and inevitably increasing the length of the game. Phase 10 is setup so that it's possible to Skip-bash a leader so that they do not get a turn. You can have a 5-6 turn hand where a player simply gets to watch. Depending on the "catch-up" needed, this can repeat for multiple hands. So, what we're looking at is a style of game that typically averages around a 6.5 (Contract Rummy, Rummikub), but with problematic design. A drop of little more than 1 point in the average rating is fair. There are simply too many other, better Rummy games for anyone to waste their time on Phase 10.
@blakekaveny Жыл бұрын
Toms biggest gripe with phase 10 is that it takes to long which I don’t agree with.
@ShuffleUpandDeal32 Жыл бұрын
You better have Trump The Game on this, lol
@greenatom Жыл бұрын
Electronic Football is absolute garbage.
@matthewzahnzinger Жыл бұрын
As soon as Quelf and Speak Out were voted down, I knew this was rigged. I'm with ya, Camilla-Speak Out (or Watch Ya Mouth, which is the version I own) is absolutely hysterical.
@VaultBoy13 Жыл бұрын
The hobbiest board gamers tend to be against doing silly things for laughs.
@EfrainRiveraJunior Жыл бұрын
I would still play Risk and Monopoly.
@kirkwagner461 Жыл бұрын
Twister needs to beat Pie Face, because its the better way for kids to discover they've entered puberty.
@filipvanopstal7601 Жыл бұрын
comon wingspan you got this.
@andykim088 Жыл бұрын
Chinese Checkers with the Hong Kong rules is actually a really good abstract game. The only difference is that a player can jump over a marble even if there is empty spaces between them. The player marble lands on the opposite side counting the same number of empty spaces on the other side (of course all these spaces must be unoccupied). So much better than vanilla Chinese Checkers.