In this episode of the 90's documentary show "The Comic Book Greats" Stan Lee's special guest is the inventor of Batman: BOB KANE.
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@jaytheartman6102 жыл бұрын
"How many times do you think ive drawn this charceter?" "Once or twice" Stans probably right
@williamfreemon38782 жыл бұрын
Stan is hilarious. He’s very subtly fucking with him I swear
@silverdamascus20232 жыл бұрын
Stan Lee gets way more credit that he actually deserves, after all, he is marketable, but he never tried to remove all of his co-workers from the credits and claim he did everything by himself, unlike Bob Kane who constantly tried to claim he created Batman all by himself.
@johnhorne30522 жыл бұрын
Bill Finger helped to plagiarize The Shadow. He was a hack, and him getting shafted by his partner in crime is poetic justice.
@nenecitosart1405 Жыл бұрын
The difference between Bob and Stan is that Stan did have a vivid imagination to create these characters. The only issue was he was not very good at drawing but he would guide artist on how he envisioned the characters to look like. He also created a lot of comicbook character origins and participated in writing. Bob Kane all he did was come up with the name Batman.
@Pangloss6413Ай бұрын
Stan Lee was a publicist and editor who got a bit too much credit, but Bob Kane was just a low down thief
@Suculentus.3 жыл бұрын
Bob: "How many times do you think i draw this character?" Stan: "Once or twice... once... or... twice..." Bill Finger: *clap* *clap*
@itsmedoubletap8 жыл бұрын
bill finger would be proud to see his legacy go this far.
@MUSICLOVER234298 жыл бұрын
God Bless Bill Finger. If there is an after life, I hope he's getting everything he deserved in life.
@atenakehnaton39657 жыл бұрын
If were sniffs, we'd all be high. There's no afterlife, that's why we need to learn and make things right everyday now, there's no going back, and little time.
@johnhorne30522 жыл бұрын
Bill Finger was just as much of a hack as Bob Kane. They deserved eachother.
@juliandean5204 Жыл бұрын
@@atenakehnaton3965 is there wrong with having faith? Leave people alone
@gamegladi8or669 Жыл бұрын
@@juliandean5204 there’s also nothing wrong with trying to encourage people to be good in their real life
@TheCelticTiger326 жыл бұрын
Steve Ditko, Jack Kirby, Bill Finger. The real hero's
@Hello-xu6dw5 жыл бұрын
Also Stan Lee. And it’s heroes* not hero’s
@Marchew12004 жыл бұрын
Yes. I like Bob Kane’s drawings but he would be nothing without Bill Finger
@captainjakemerica45794 жыл бұрын
Stan Lee is among these heroes also
@bradenhogan23 жыл бұрын
Jerry Robinson always belongs in the same breath as Bill Finger and Bob Kane
@dcbeatsmarvel36272 жыл бұрын
@@Marchew1200 vice versa. Enough with discrediting Bob Kane. Everyone who discredits him wont ever create an icon in any life times
@jackhamilton96043 жыл бұрын
he should have gone by Rob 1. It's the correct nickname for Robert 2. It's accurate to what he did
@boyanpetrov16832 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@johnhorne30522 жыл бұрын
They BOTH plagiarized The Shadow. If Finger gets the credit, then he also gets the blame.
@joelanderson48992 жыл бұрын
kinda inspirational honestly, that a hack like Kane could be at the centre of something so iconic
@UndertakerU2ber2 жыл бұрын
ikr? All I have to do is throw ideas at someone like darts on a dartboard, hope they take one of those ideas and do something cool with it, then rush to the publisher and furiously demand that I receive full credit and everyone else be treated as ghost artists/writers. Maybe one day with the right crooked lawyer, I too can steal ideas and threaten to bury others in frivolous litigation to intimidate them from taking credit for an idea I stole from them.
@joelanderson48992 жыл бұрын
@@UndertakerU2ber just get decently ok at drawing and you're good to go!
@futuredcuaction123710 ай бұрын
Ur a hack bitch lol u couldn’t even draw what kane drew here
@futuredcuaction123710 ай бұрын
@@UndertakerU2berur so full of crap
@TheDoctorMcGuinness18 жыл бұрын
Awww look at Bob Kane trying to draw Bill Fingers Batman.
@kentallard88527 жыл бұрын
Looks more like a bad Neal Addams.
@gonk45095 жыл бұрын
The Black Rose électrique Me too. Also, I’m tired of people calling Bob Kane a fraud, because he stated in “Batman and Me” that he regrets not giving Bill Finger credit, and wanted to turn back time and give Bill his byline.
@ericsonofjohn93845 жыл бұрын
@The Black Rose électrique No. Bob Cane's original batman was red and didnt have a cowl. Everything batman about batman came from finger
@cyrus1385 жыл бұрын
@The Black Rose électrique it's not a fair point, it's the truth. go watch Batman and Bill. batman's look, bruce wayne, his origin story, the bat cave, the bat mobile, being a detective, the alias dark knight, riddler, scarecrow, robin, joker, catwoman, gordon were all Bill Finger's creations. kane's batman looked like aquaman, in red tights with stiff prop bat wings, a zorro mask, with a yellow utility belt. ok, i'll give him the utility belt.
@cyrus1385 жыл бұрын
@The Black Rose électriqueWhich version is the real Batman though?
@TheCelticTiger325 жыл бұрын
The true Batman arch-nemesis, Bob Kane
@dcbeatsmarvel36272 жыл бұрын
Thank You Bob Kane, Bill Finger, Joe Shuster, Jerry Siegal , Stan lee, and Todd Mcfarlane!
@Jackferrett67812 жыл бұрын
And Jack Kirby
@Coolfrog-hb4mg Жыл бұрын
I don’t know about bob kane
@RamblingGreek9 жыл бұрын
Stan Lee is such a funny guy...
@RegularJ.Studios Жыл бұрын
If you want my opinion Bill Finger is the real legend who made Batman. By writing and fleshing out his character and even his no kill rule. Also I love Stan Lee he is and ABSOLUTE LEGEND R.I.P...
@anonymousinternetlady2 жыл бұрын
For being the villain of comics he’s much better than I expected
@jackbender2858 Жыл бұрын
• Bill Finger created Batman, not Bob Kane.
@AlexAcostaArt2 жыл бұрын
Bob's Mickey Mouse looks more like a bear.
@stupotgorilla2 жыл бұрын
Lol i wish to god we could hear stans inner thoughts during this.
@majinvegeta32845 жыл бұрын
Rip Stan lee.
@beexcellenttoeachother531311 ай бұрын
Bob Finger is the true creator of Batman.
@Bear14315 Жыл бұрын
Stand charisma is crazy in this video, miss you Stan.
@kentallard88527 жыл бұрын
It looks like he is trying to copy Neal Addams Batman, nothing like his early stuff. Lee keeps making digs about him drawing, I think he's doing that in reference to how little Kane really did.
@essentialrobb84522 жыл бұрын
Bob cane the tracer 😂
@god_nigh2 жыл бұрын
"..If you come up with it I'll tell everyone it was my idea.."
@tanman921943 жыл бұрын
Without Bob Kane, Batman would not exist. Without Bill Finger, Batman would not exist as we know him.
@Delta-ass3 жыл бұрын
Without bob kane bill finger would be making bank
@BlackHatCinephile2 жыл бұрын
A Batman isn't something that's difficult to think up, especially somebody pressured and incentivized to come up with something. Somebody would've come up with a Batman by now.
@johnhorne30522 жыл бұрын
Without The Shadow, they'd have nothing to steal.
@joelanderson48992 жыл бұрын
@@Delta-ass who would have drawn the original strips if not Kane?
@Delta-ass2 жыл бұрын
@@joelanderson4899 true, but finger improved upon it with the Batman design we know and love today
@108Stars2 жыл бұрын
I wonder what drove Bob Kane to do this in front of a camera. Sure it was quick and all, but that's pretty bad. If anything this is evidence how much of the work he was credited for was either traced or done by people he paid. "You sure have those reduced down to the barest of essentials". "We haven't been able to agree wether your name comes first or mine" In this context it kind of sounds like Stan Lee was making a bit of fun of Bob Kane's lackluster artwork and also the open secret that he hadn't done all the work on Batman but made sure others were not credited.
@chitown17822 жыл бұрын
Bill Finger is the true Creator!
@DarthInsomnis3 жыл бұрын
I could literally sit for hours just watching these dudes hang out and draw.
@peterhaslund Жыл бұрын
You're kidding, right
@PedroAlves-qf9nx5 жыл бұрын
R.I.P Stan Lee 😢
@JenniferPoole.332728 ай бұрын
and R.I.P. Bob Kane and Bill Finger
@BlackHatCinephile2 жыл бұрын
Bad art encourages me that no matter how dissatisfied I am with my art, I shouldn't be.
@soulesssantos6x6085 жыл бұрын
Bob kane isn't bad , but Bill finger is on a league of his own.
@y2taner2 жыл бұрын
my left ear really enjoyed this
@KevinnGomez4 ай бұрын
“Jerry if you’re looking for” Jerry giving Bob the finger off camera
@dailydoseofsunshine2319 Жыл бұрын
Ha it's so weird to see bob kane drawing spider-man
@Riott2455 жыл бұрын
Marvel visits DC
@Jimbob-hp6ud Жыл бұрын
Batman would be ashamed of Bob kane
@giulioradar65707 жыл бұрын
Kane Draws Batman so GOOD
@hyliannerd45417 жыл бұрын
GiulioRadar you mean he is tracing Bill Finger's Batman. He stole his ideas
@MEDZFactor6 жыл бұрын
The Hero of Time Bill Finger was a writer, not an artist.
@TroyDraws5 жыл бұрын
Sorry but what video were you watching?
@oisinjadran4 жыл бұрын
@@hyliannerd4541 Oisin Jadran 2 seconds ago Dude here's something Bill Finger has literally said: "[Bob Kane] had an idea for a character called 'Batman', and he'd like me to see the drawings. I went over to Kane's, and he had drawn a character who looked very much like Superman with kind of ... reddish tights, I believe, with boots ... no gloves, no gauntlets ... with a small domino mask, swinging on a rope. He had two stiff wings that were sticking out, looking like bat wings. And under it was a big sign ... BATMAN."
@scottycameron59373 жыл бұрын
@@MEDZFactor yes. Finger came up with Batman's look, but he only wrote the original comics. Kane still provided the artwork.
@colechung7806 Жыл бұрын
Im sorry but that Spiderman was horrific 😢 pure laziness
@peterhaslund Жыл бұрын
All fake. How anyone could believe this guy is beyond me
@klem16842 жыл бұрын
Bob Kane was a terrible artist and a terrible human being
@johnhorne30522 жыл бұрын
The same goes for Bill Finger. He was just as much of a hack as Kane.
@dailydoseofsunshine2319 Жыл бұрын
@@johnhorne3052not really. Most of what people associate with Batman today was fingers doing
@johnhorne3052 Жыл бұрын
@@dailydoseofsunshine2319 Most of what people associate with Batman is blatantly plagiarized from The Shadow, A.K.A. The Knight of Darkness. I repeat, Bill Finger was a talentless hack.
@dailydoseofsunshine2319 Жыл бұрын
@@johnhorne3052 sure batman is exactly like the shadow if you willingly ignore all the massive differences and other influences the character had.
@johnhorne3052 Жыл бұрын
@@dailydoseofsunshine2319 The first Batman story "Case of the Chemical Syndicate" (which Finger was credited as writing, by the way) was a scene-for-scene ripoff of the Shadow story "Partners of Peril". Sure, Bill Finger was just oozing with originality;)
@knorieworiebobsnor7 жыл бұрын
it's incredible how poorly he drew. he can't possible have drawn all those comics
@atenakehnaton39657 жыл бұрын
There's evidence to show he swiped a lot of the work. Also later in life he would pay people to create work for him and he would sign his name to it then sell it.
@the_jacobian996 жыл бұрын
Korneel Snauwaert yeah maybe it's also because he was rushing do to this segment being timed. I dare you to draw a perfect joker in a couple minutes with a shitty sharpie!
@oisinjadran4 жыл бұрын
Are u kidding me? U think comic book artists only have the running time of a show to draw comics?
@drewperk2 жыл бұрын
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@knorieworiebobsnor2 жыл бұрын
@@the_jacobian99 lmao, I never said I could draw ... Bob Kane did
@davidlopes8519 Жыл бұрын
Stan is a better artist than bob kane.
@domo4love5 жыл бұрын
Bob Kane loves bob Kane, but Batman doesn’t love Bob Kane , ... but Bob Kane loves Batman
@god_nigh2 жыл бұрын
I feel that 100%
@ciscofas455 жыл бұрын
Please Bob Kane, the Mickey Mouse drawing is horrendous. It looks like someone who designed sketches to make Piñatas.
@joelanderson48992 жыл бұрын
Kane drew those exact Batman, Penguin and Joker headshots literally hundreds of times. As someone who often doodles, I know that you don't need to be a great artist to pull off that kind of work! I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't properly sketch anything in the last 40 years of his life
@HannahKosoff2 жыл бұрын
Actually bill finger did most of the batman creative art
@joelanderson48992 жыл бұрын
@@HannahKosoff that's not true at all, Finger wasn't even an artist.
@HannahKosoff2 жыл бұрын
@@joelanderson4899 ik thats what I thought too untill i watched the documentary Batman & Bill, chronicles how Bill Finger created a legend on hulu. Its actually really interesting :)
@williamfreemon38782 жыл бұрын
Or anything in his first 40 years
@merlith4650 Жыл бұрын
Bob Kane was a charlatan, manipulator and a liar. He actively used ghost artists throughout his carrier and repeatedly took credit for things he never did.
@ImYourHuckleberry_296 жыл бұрын
Kane sounds very unintellectual. No way he couldve created the batcave the batmobile his costume his villains. No fucking way !!
@GoatHoovesInSpats2 жыл бұрын
The Batcave was created in the first serial of the 1943 Batman serial. Batman origianlly drove a regular car in the late 30s/early 40s comic books.
@ImYourHuckleberry_292 жыл бұрын
@@GoatHoovesInSpats yes but it wasn't created by Kane though.
@GoatHoovesInSpats2 жыл бұрын
@@ImYourHuckleberry_29 No single writer, artist, or actor can claim sole credit for all of the various hallmarks or elements that evolved over 83 years into what we know as Batman. However, there would never have been any version of Batman at all without Bob Kane in the first place having the initial idea.
@ImYourHuckleberry_292 жыл бұрын
@@GoatHoovesInSpats yes but he never acknowledged Finger as co creator. Batman was an idea by Kane like Spider Man was an idea by Lee (and maybe Kirby as well).
@stratospherestudios53746 жыл бұрын
I love Bob Kane, His art style is simple and that's what makes it nice
@TheDylandProductions5 жыл бұрын
yes
@boyanpetrov16832 жыл бұрын
Me too
@Imetral02 жыл бұрын
it's simple because he hardly ever drew lol
@peterhaslund Жыл бұрын
What a joke, guy was a total hoax
@leightonwilliams65328 жыл бұрын
Bob Kane would be proud to see how far is Legacy has gone
@thelittlepasty83607 жыл бұрын
Leighton Williams What legacy? Bill Finger and jerry Robinson created nearly everything Batman related including Batman himself.
@ddave70267 жыл бұрын
Leighton Williams bill finger you mean...
@seandowling59186 жыл бұрын
*Bill Finger
@scottycameron59373 жыл бұрын
His legacy along with Bill Finger, Sheldon Moldoff, and Jerry Robinson's. Kane wasn't the sole creator.
@TroyDraws5 жыл бұрын
He takes passive aggressive shots at Stan Lee, Michelle Pfeiffer and Jerry Robinson who created The Joker. Wow this guy is so arrogant.
@johnhorne30522 жыл бұрын
Theodore Tinsley created the joker.
@Shawn1998164 жыл бұрын
Vintage asrm
@Da1Dez3 жыл бұрын
I just want to say that having seen all the hate towards Kane in the comments I will state my opinion. Yes he should've have given Bill Finger credit in first place and he may not have been the best artist in the industry but... hear me out... we should owe it to him for creating the concept of Batman and for putting his ego aside and recognising Bill's talent by hiring him to develop the character into what we know today. His simple art style is unique in that it has a nicely bold style that anyone can learn to draw and remember the comic art of 1940s was different to today's work. I wish he had credited Bill like everyone but perhaps at the time Bill didn't want the publicity and just enjoyed having a job and quiet life, plus Batman wasn't big at the time of the contract and Bill probably didn't realise how big the brand would become. So overall, its easy to slap Kane over the head but just realise he did acknowledge Bill later on and its cause of his admittance that we knew all about Bill, just a case of somebody being blinded by the product, or in this case bat.
@Delta-ass3 жыл бұрын
I disagree a bit
@Anth2302 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@BlackHatCinephile2 жыл бұрын
He didn't generously decide to give credit, he got figured out and called out by associated people in the industry who compared notes, this guy knows this, that guy knows that, piece it all together and blow the lid off the scam.
@williamfreemon38782 жыл бұрын
Recognizing Bills talent??? What? He recognized it cuz he needed someone to use to come up with material for his studio that he plastered his name on.
@jonjonrods5776 Жыл бұрын
If Stan Lee and Bob Kane create a comic, who really created the comic?
@peterwayne853211 ай бұрын
The batman father
@kanukki842 ай бұрын
Is Bill Finger not Bob Kane
@nenecitosart1405 Жыл бұрын
Bob I created Batman I came up with the name! Bill yeah all I did was came up with the suit the story the villains the back drops the drawings. Yeah but give him all the credit because he thought of the name. What is this genius gonna create next dogman?
@thatdogfrom2 жыл бұрын
Stan Lee, George Lucas, Bob Kane, And Walt Disney are the 4 people who made a giant mark on the earth
@Coolfrog-hb4mg Жыл бұрын
Bob Kane didn’t create Batman that was bill finger
@Vanghool878 ай бұрын
@@Coolfrog-hb4mg Co-created with Bob Kane but he certainly took to much credit. Bob was name and concept but Bill was just about everything else that we know of the character today.
@JoeyTCartoonP5 жыл бұрын
I think the screenplay comment was done as a passive aggressive jab against Bob on not giving co-creators credit. Granted Stan has been accused plenty of time on his creative input, but I always felt he attempted to give the bullpen the credit they deserve. Not much I can say on Bob though.
@campbellmurphy9371 Жыл бұрын
Most likely Stan lee Stan lee would actually do some stuff not a lot but stuff Bob Kane just stole and acted pretentiously
@williamfreemon38782 жыл бұрын
I don’t believe anything he says in this. Not one thing. He is such a con artist. Good for him for being a boss enough to hire writers and artists to create something for his studio but the gall to act like hes even drawn Batman to completion even once is just too much
@daveunbelievable63134 жыл бұрын
people trashing him to oblivion, bob kane did draw batman for a good while, yes after a while he had to hire ghosts, but everyone did that, they were asking him to draw like 5 books each month, he needed ghosts. It wasnt some long con, people knew it happened and people knew who actually drew the later issues, he may not have been the sole creator, but he designed these characters show him some respect.
@captainjakemerica45794 жыл бұрын
Yes it's the little respect I give him how he made it a life long mission of his to discredit Bill Finger is what annoys me and how he portrays himself as the sole creator and saying oh yeah I created this and I created Joker and the Batcave he's like Rob Liefield took way too much credit
@oblivionlalo3 жыл бұрын
Fuck off.
@OneUponADime2 жыл бұрын
Wow he's awful
@In-N-Out3339 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, but this man is quite possibly the worst artist I have ever seen in my life, and I swear to God I'm not joking.
@AnthonyBeast1258 жыл бұрын
Yeah but he created batman
@MUSICLOVER234298 жыл бұрын
Anthoney Beast125 No he really didn't. Bill Finger created Batman.
@sheen0098 жыл бұрын
lets be real, both of them did
@MUSICLOVER234298 жыл бұрын
sheen aro Bob Kane's "Bat Man" is so far removed from who Batman is it's not even fair to call them remotely the same character. At best Bob Kane's responsible for the name Batman. Bill Finger did EVERYTHING else.
@sheen0098 жыл бұрын
***** but still he draw the final designs from bill's batman idea. thats like saying cloud strife from final fantasy wasnt made by tetsuya nomura but by the game director only. both people deserves credit
@george.w64556 жыл бұрын
Im sorry but Kane’s art was terrbile
@harshvardhanshinde76574 жыл бұрын
George.w I guess it was the time when comics were starting to get popular so there like realistic figures like that we see now and I know everything about Bob Kane as I found out some shady stuff
@mariarips5385 Жыл бұрын
The penguin is kinda... decent 😂
@brendanslattery16048 жыл бұрын
Bob Kane made batman so don't judge but he was drawing with a marker not an easy pencil
@chaeyeonsman83318 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@MUSICLOVER234298 жыл бұрын
Bill Finger made Batman. Bob Kane's "Bat-Man" has nothing to do with the Dark Knight you know and love. Look it up.
@hyliannerd45417 жыл бұрын
Snows Knives that's an excuse. He didn't create Batman
@TroyDraws5 жыл бұрын
Go watch Jim Lee draw with a marker, that’s a real artist, not his garbage. He is so arrogant but doesn’t have the talent to back it up.
@jakevader93Ай бұрын
Damn, that Mickey Mouse sucked
@b-trainbob34286 жыл бұрын
Let me tell u this. This is like the best art I have ever seen and Bob Kane is undeniably awesome and u people are just a bunch of haters who never seen art before. Bob Kane is the co creator of batman along with Bill finger. He might have helped bill finger create Batman may be that could be the result.
@b-trainbob34286 жыл бұрын
Severus Snape hmmm ok
@calimademali5 жыл бұрын
Jeremiah Valeska I know this is 9 months old but I really don’t like all the hate you’re giving Bob Kane. For example Steve Ditko and Stan lee both worked on Spider-Man Stan lee wrote it and Steve Ditko drew a lot of amazing artwork for it and even gave some cool characters, what I’m getting at is that they both did equal share of amazing work but in the end Stan lee got more recognition. It’s the same case with bob kane and bill finger but bill finger got absolutely no recognition, but that isn’t a choice bob made it was DC. Bob also was a huge soul helper he brought bill fingers ideas to the paper and he also helped create a lot of villains such as: Scarecrow, Clayface, cat women, and hell two face was all his idea all these villains were. I just don’t like how people are bashing on bob kane for a choice dc comics made and not him
@itsblevkandhellishot74843 жыл бұрын
@@calimademali bob Kane litterally didn’t do anything except the name of the character even a lot of the comics he drew were done by other ppl
@calimademali3 жыл бұрын
@@itsblevkandhellishot7484 ngl i wrote that shit a whole 2 years ago bro i forgot what i said nor do i care
@itsblevkandhellishot74843 жыл бұрын
@@calimademali lol
@JenniferPoole.332728 ай бұрын
These idiots are hating on Bob just because of his opinion and love for Mickey Mouse? What TF is wrong with you people?
@miketome65807 жыл бұрын
Bob is in hell
@TheDylandProductions5 жыл бұрын
want to meet him
@CUF176 жыл бұрын
And Bob's comments about Michelle he could've keep to damn self. Piss poor taste.
@mikeshirleyforever3 жыл бұрын
I bet Elizabeth Saunders wasn't too pleased if she heard his opinion.
@NathanDraxter Жыл бұрын
Bob Kane did one thing right: create a bunch of contracts to prevent the character from having major changes. Imagine what the woke ppl would do if he never did that