10 Exercises & Lifts You Should NEVER do. Harmful. Dangerous.

"Famous" Physical Therapists Bob Schrupp & Brad Heineck (Bob & Brad) present 10 exercises and lifts one should NEVER do- in their opinion. The chance of injury is greater than the possible gains.
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[@ehlava]

2:09 standing touch toes hamstring 2:45 good mornings with barbell (similar to previous) 4:20 traditional situps 5:15 bad treadmill posture, bent forward, leaning on bar 6:00 stiff legged bent over rows 7:00 military press 8:30 stiff legged dead lifts 8:48 full squats 9:40 (talk of end range) 10:10 leg press range and end range 10:48 upright rows

[@Cam____]

Thank you

[@sylviavalenzuela7213]

age 17 I did bodybuilding, did all these exercises they mentioned and I had four misaligned vertebrates in my lower back and I had (still have) terrible shoulder pain. Lessons indeed.

[@appletree7376]

Do you still weight lift

[@giornogiovanna836]

You didn’t body build when you were a 17 year old girl lol

[@worthlessmutts9598]

there goes my whole 10 year routine.

[@morecharacterswithamix9067]

lol bruh

[@nafisfaiaz3993]

Same

[@maygraph4230]

😂😂😂😂

[@petebarnesTaiChi]

Wow, I totally agree with your comments. I hurt my back in my early 20s and suffered most of my life. For the last 6 years, I've been exercising my back with Pilates and watching your videos. At 71, I'm finally mostly free from pain and my conclusion....... look after your back, bend your knees when lifting, and watch Bob & Brad 🤩

[@kwikcilva66]

This is very helpful advice, but it would be even more helpful if you had alternative exercises to reccomend as a substitute for the ones we shouldn't be doing. I'm 31 and this is great advice for aging well! Love your videos, keep up the good work.

[@helenlauer9545]

yeh, watching this makes me wonder what else I should do

[@TheMarshalMurat]

lesson learned; never move spine in any direction for any reason.

[@DihStyle69]

Kit Ockham stay still. DON'T MOVE!

[@thismustbekirk]

so how do you stretch out sciatica? I was told to do spread eagle and I feel movement in my back while touching my toes, should I not do this?

[@thismustbekirk]

Also, I am lifting for college football and do dead lifts as well. I feel like it is better than a squat and stay away from that. Should I be concerned about an achey lower back right around where my hips connect to my spine. I feel like my bad posture during class and studying alludes to this pain and shoudl be fixed if I correct it over time. Do you have any tips for this and for a college football player, because some lifts are nessecary for strength even if you dont use these muscles in a game or practice it can still help you strength in other respects, or am I wrong. Like how a military press will never be used on the field but can help with strength and explosion for someone blocking.

[@austinkunch710]

when Brad is demonstrating the exercises, his form is awful, especially the bent over rows, 90% of stress is on the bicep not on the lats n traps n whatnot. its clear that he doesnt know how to lift. And they want us to do quarter reps on the leg press? really? Athlean x is the only channel you need to know what to do n what not to do in the gym

[@bababushka7732]

John Shay Hahahaha

[@fatmah1409]

Since I started following this channel and applying your advices, I was able to centralize sciatica pain and my workouts are better than ever. I grew muscles pain-free and the progress is amazing!

[@BobandBrad]

Glad to hear that! Keep up the great work!

[@frankrizzo4778]

Just turned 50 and started getting in shape. Thanks guys. You just saved my back with your advice.

[@monicaswavel6074]

wow! I think I did every one of those! I am adjusting my workouts immediately! thank you! I am 53 and I definitely want to take good care of my body which is the reason I make the effort of working out! God bless you guys!

[@roseandrews619]

This is great physical therapy. These guys are terrific. I wish they would, however, address those of us who are older now, especially women, and go through our day with the activities we have to do. Using washer and dryer, going with food in and out of the oven, in the garden on our knees, up and down, pulling weeds.....so many..

[@chin_mcfistly3517]

Maybe this would help? "Stop Destroying Your Back When Gardening. 12 Golden Tips" kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGqQeXVvbZWGras

[@cherryketket]

I find that most of these are the ones that I instinctively stopped doing cause of the stress I felt while practicing them. I feel so validated somehow. Thank you for your videos. helping me a great deal. I've subscribed after watching only 1 of them.

[@WantedDeaDorAIive]

Solid advise. You guys did a good job pointing out risks and rewards to the deadlift, and tried to not make it biased.

[@DaN3xtEconomist]

I switch crunches for leg raises (hanging). Good morning with traditional deadlifts. Military press with dumbbell press. Barbell rows with machine rows. There are ways around things

[@alandun27]

Great video . . . BUT! there is always a darn but! Can you do the companion to this video - which is what to do to REPLACE these exercises if you're doing them. please! Alan, from Australia.

[@nancyzeller5513]

physicaltherapyvideo I told my Dr. about you two and it turns out your videos are prescribed to patients from many of the Doctors in her clinic. I just watched the ten exercises not to do, but what's the name of the video for the proper way to do the ten exercises? You said that you would be making one in a couple months. You guys are "The Best." If I have any issues with anything, except cooking I will find it on your website.

[@jessejohnston2014]

AthleanX Jeff Cavalier is a physiotherapist and certified trainer. Go check his videos out. He has alternate exercises and goes over all pain points, how to lift and train properly. Way higher caliber then these gentlemen.

[@NicholasLaDieu]

You could also get someone who actually knows how to execute these movements demonstrate proper form.

[@littlewhitepetals8790]

No way man, these guys got class (besides that dude looks anorexic!)

[@tbillyjoeroth]

Muscles like his and anorexic? You don't have a clue.

[@channel1channel139]

Thank you so much for all your great videos! :) for this particular video, it would also be really great to show *safer alternatives* to these exercises - especially shoulder ones

[@ejsgarage]

Very helpful tips! Thank you very much Bob & Brad

[@Kruscher76]

Thanks for this video! Great advice!

[@BCBRENDA]

I have had back problems for several years and I just ran across your videos a few days ago. Your videos have been so helpful. I'm sharing them with everyone I know. Keep up the good work!

[@17thwonder]

I used to be guilty on a couple of these exercises when I first started lifting but I eventually lost flexibility, was too stiff and too sore too often so I listened to my body and I'm thankful I did. Great video gentlemen.

[@paulmillich8934]

Thanks guys ... the information you put out is valued.

[@iloverumi]

great info- thanks!

[@luckysuzful]

What are some alternative weight lifting exercises that work the same muscle groups? Could you do a video about that?

[@tomthumb9839]

I am sorry I did these exercises. I'm 67 and paying the price. I now protect my body, especially my spine.

[@Tereb1]

I stress over my back all the time when exercising, this was a really helpful video. Thanks!!

[@daltexasone]

You guys are great and so correct. I'm almost 53 and worked out all my life and have dealt with major back issues for about 13 years. You guys confirm so much that I have learned the hard way. Wish I would have seen your videos 20 years ago. Keep up the good work!

[@christianhadiwijaya]

I am really grateful to found this video in my 30s. Now all I do are just basic movements like push up, pull up, and squats. Don't want to suffer when getting older! Thank you Bob and Brad!

[@get1558]

Thank you so much !

[@ambrosalime2633]

🌷🌷 perfect lecture thanks a lot.

[@josefkainrad]

Thanks for sharing! As an avid bodybuilder I always want to thing about longevity and what the science says. I appreciate videos like these.

[@BigBoss....]

Thx, helpful information.

[@MrJohnblaine]

learning so much. thanks guys.

[@RicardoGonzalez-tr7mx]

I understand the bad posture in exercises I'm 23 and an army veteran I still feel lower back pain because of bent over rows as well as shoulder pain from military presses I appreciate the content you guys provide I would like for your advice on safe superior alternatives to some of these exercises

[@vinnydakid123]

True, this video would be much better with alternative exercises directly given. And as a young physical therapist I don't agree on every statement but still a good video.

[@JohnM...]

Ricardo Gonzalez military press alternative = landmine press. Bent over row alternative = seal press, or dumbell rows.

[@marshwetland3808]

At least the incline bench was given for the bent over rowing. But the dumbell press, especially at a more natural angle, could have replaced the barbell presses. I recommend Jeff Cavaliere for good exercise vids, since he is also a PT as well as a trainer.

[@ebateru]

Ricardo Gonzalez I always thought that army people call the military press simply the press.

[@sterbprepper4798]

you guys are awesome for people that lift. getting tips from lifters and your guys tips really ties well and gives a medical perspective

[@RashedHiyasat]

thank you so much guys, i have started a strength program that has a lot of the movements you talked about, and i dont care about muscle i just want a fun program that keeps my muscles healthy, so i will definitely stop and try to find a better program. thanks again!

[@MrsTLadd]

Great video! Good things to know. I know I'm late but I'm new here. I think what I'm missing from this is a demonstration of the correct way or an alternative way to do these exercises. Or perhaps linking the videos for the topics you have already covered in the description box for easy reference. Thank you both! I'm learning a lot.

[@shakeelkader]

Thank you for the video. What exercises should i avoid with a cervical radiculopathy?

[@Ogun59]

thank you! could you possibly do a follow up video showing alternatives

[@stevenbarry1998]

outstanding information

[@Tre_B3]

Got some helpful info here. Thanks. Thought i'd seen all the vids

[@camus585]

amazing video as usual, is bent leg deadlift ok to do ? Thank you so much

[@sallysmith428]

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!

[@beautyonthebeachfl445]

The leg press.... that's how I think my knees started hurting.... thanks guys you are awesome

[@rsij]

Another great and helpful video! I wish I knew this before a started lifting. I have already stopped some of the bad exercises from watching your videos. What about upright rows with dumbbells any better? What about military press in front with dumbbells?

[@matthewhoffman3911]

Squat deep, squat heavy, squat often.

[@mebeese]

How much pressure is on the discs when you cough or sneeze? Should I avoid that too?

[@HELL0NESSA]

I keep coming back for the theme song alone. Lol I love it.

[@TheHeatProducer]

I am a big fan of your videos here in France. Love the music at the beginning of any of your vid 😂😂😂 You really helped me to cure my herniated disc a few days ago! Thanks a million and keep going please!!!!

[@ianwoollard2063]

It's interesting to hear about the exercises that can cause shoulder problems as I'm experiencing the beginnings of these at the moment and it's how I found your channel. The upright rows really are a worry and for more than just the shoulders. I'm ok with the front military press but the rear ones are bad news. At my gym I'm seeing a lot of people injured doing cross fit. Knees,shoulders and back seem to be the most common. I'm into weights and I think my problems are from overuse and to many sets. I'm mindful of not going to heavy but tend to compensate with extra sets and higher reps. I love it but maybe I'm loving it too much. You've given me something to consider and I'm going to reevaluate my workouts.

[@christywright5439]

No wonder my spine is in the state its in. Thanks Jane Fonda for the aerobic exercise videos in the eighties! Our aerobics teachers still follow these exercises blindly to this day.

[@rustyshackleford6092]

Man, I think we did about every one of these exercises/lifts in my CrossFit class. A year and a half later I quit when my left shoulder was shot. Hoping to heal up now but need to find a better (ideally body weight) long-term workout system. Thank you for taking time to create and post these videos, gentlemen.

[@janetbaalham7286]

Do have had a replacement knee 1 year ago and l have spinal stenosis so your exercising has been a big help so a big thank you

[@MoutonNoir86]

Thank you for the informative video. For these types of 'avoid doing this' videos in future, it would be great if you could show a safer alternative. i.e. what is less risky than sit-ups or shoulder press?

[@ETBrooD]

For sit-ups: crunches For shoulder press: dumbbell shoulder press

[@maleascott8199]

Thankyou so much for the great info! Will you please link the (Nakasum?) study? Thank you

[@MrZeke701]

Hi Guys! Thanks!

[@stasacab]

Great, got them all.

[@kuladeeluxe]

thanks

[@Fatihsubasilar]

I recommend that this video is carefully watched by anyone who goes to the gym and does weight training. A very useful video. It will contribute to correcting many mistakes that are known correctly.

[@missyfisher7579]

Thank you. Some of those exercises I won't do again. Si joint problems

[@SirPreatto]

appreciate EVERY video.. I'm searching for any relief and you guys are golden!!! after my back "went out" at 30, and then at 33, they diagnosed me with arthritis...I knew it wasn't because it wasn't my muscles but more of an uncomfortable nerve pain. Well, my MRI showed 4 dark compressed disc with the middle two bulging... Eureka!! I'm approaching 36, the Dr. doesn't suggest surgery, so I'm trying to reverse this condition and manage the pain

[@archanabiranje1649]

Hi how are you trting to reverse it...im 29 and im have sever pain in d lumbar region.... tge docs say if i dont rake care it may lead to spondylosis and disc problems.

[@isabelstrid1045]

Recently I pulled my back...after watching this...you really are making me realize how many times I do bend over wrong. Looking at a picture on the table, looking for something, it's very common to bend...just did not know it was wrong. Thank you.

[@CG-rz2tl]

On bent over rows and straight leg dead lifts the bar rides up and down the front of your legs and never tracks away from the body. You bend at the knees and sit back in your heels and hips. If your form looks like theirs of course you will get hurt 👍

[@marlenebuchholz3217]

Again good avice!

[@alschirjaev9213]

thanks for all the great advice. i avoid most of the exercises, but what should you do for shoulders then if the in front military press is bad? it doesnt seem to bug my shoulders that much

[@BeaKarl]

Wow! I am soooo surprised! I am the one who always does sport and has more issues and now I know why! Thank you so much for this informative video!

[@piee683]

I would trust u guys with my life thx for great advice

[@brennanlundgren]

7:23 most important words. Supraspinatus tendon impingment And i liked hearing about end range

[@masau541]

Hi, great video. Might you link me to the study you were mentioning at the beginning? Thank you!

[@osiceanumariniulian3021]

Thank you guys ! I hope you will make the video about how to workout properly any kinetic muscle in the body ,and the postural muscle .I really need thats adivces .

[@fixingstufff]

Hi. Good video for people that don't exercise often or don't know how to exercise. I had bad disk (spinal cord bones touching each other) and I recovered doing exercise, specially stiff leg deadlift .

[@janetfaith1227]

U guys are wonderful

[@darkanser]

I'm in my mid-fifties and came to your videos because I've been experiencing pain in my dominant shoulder whenever I do machine chest or shoulder exercises which are definitely impeding my workouts.

[@tantoinettew]

Great info! I'll keep your tips in mind. However I lift heavy and I like it! I'll propably continue to do most of these lifts. But at 52 yo I'll remember your cautions and share with those I coach. Thank u!

[@CraigHocker]

The solution for upright rows is to do them with dumbbells instead so your hands can be rotated (pinkies lower) to prevent impingement.

[@sofiaml2002]

Hi guys, great work and thank you for your videos. Does this mean we shouldn't do squats all the way down every time or were you talking about justwhen is with weight?

[@OILifeOsteogenesisImperfecta]

Great video guys! Can you give a suggestion to work the shoulders with a tear in the supraspinatus?

[@davidfoster6545]

Hi I have a double curvature of the spine and other spinal problems . What do you recommend ? Thanks again .dave

[@blueunicorn9565]

very informative, it's hard sometimes to accept that I've been training wrong for many, many years, coming from a nasty shoulder injury, I believe that with the understanding of the muscles functionality, we can sort out the injuries...unfortunately people get injured before gain the knowledge. from my experience, even though we perform all the exercises mentioned, with good stretching, we can avoid the injuries, or fixed them if they apear. any thoughts on that?

[@dipper0yawn]

Shoulder presses is what helped me with my impingement. They don't have to be heavy but good form is essential to make it work.

[@TheMisterMarino]

As always !! Best of the best!!!I'm paying the price of lower back abuse due strenuous weight lifting with a herniated disc. Keep rockin guys ! Waiting for more on this subject ! Still wait for the power kicking leg exercises video ! The best physical therapists all over the world ! I have understood through time that human body is capable for many things but this don't mean that it also likes this! :)

[@the-brownwhale]

I had done all of the no to do excercise you have listed ( maybe the posture), the result - my back broke. Thanks for your lesson.

[@transamrulesrice]

Every workout position that you guys said not to do I was doing in my early twenties. as I lay in bed in severe pain. herniated l4, l5 when I was 23. I'm 30 now and wishing videos this informative were so easily accessible back then. gosh I was so dumb. I'm not even old yet and falling apart.

[@premavichal1]

Prem Hi your video is true and correct in my opinion. My back went out last year with MRI showing L 4 L 5 buldge and degeneration. The 20 year of squat deadlift and bent over row exercise being responsible for it in my opinion. Great video to educate all lifter because once your disc is herniated you cannot lift anything. Still I am not able to do gym regularly and prefer only to walk. Great to educate as wrong information prevails in gym.

[@VictorRamirez-gy7co]

You old guys are awesome!!!!! Experience kills !!!!

[@BobandBrad]

So kind of you to say! :)

[@bethevoice-thelifeofsteve6354]

I have been lifting weights for 40 years . Fortunately I have never had a day when my training day was stopped due to injury and I train everyday . BUT , I am now 55 and I am beginning to lower my weights in order to extend my physical abilities into older age . I do feel my back now and have to ensure I am stretching and all the rest of it . We have to adapt for longevity otherwise longevity will come with movement preventing disability . It is hard to accept that I now have to adjust my training but reality is reality . Great vids .

[@TwinGeminiStudio]

Great video, Docs! I wonder if you both feel the same way about traditional deadlifts. Still a great amount of spine flexion but does flexing the knees, again, I'm thinking "traditional deadlift" here, help alleviate enough of the stress on the lumbar spine to make it a worthwhile exercise in your minds? *Assuming ideal form and appropriate weight through out the movement*

[@ichhasseamerika]

Thanks for the great vids guys. I have a question: wouldnt some of these - like bent over with straight, static back, lifting weights with arms - wouldnt these exercises actually *strengthen* the back, thus protecting it from harm during normal activities in life?(sitting upright, not slouching, etc). Thanks in advance!

[@artemisapaulina29]

That's exactly what I thought! And actually when I do them, I feel the stress on my back but later the same day or days later I feel really good. These exercises have actually stopped my sciatic pain! But I will keep their words in mind and be extra careful when doing them.

[@golfer435]

@@morebrainmoregains3234 this so much. When you are bending at the waist your legs should not be straight. Ever. Your body is not designed to do that. At a certain point you need to bend your knees because you hips have a specific range of available motion

[@annafox7474]

theses videos are really good! You two are also adorable♡

[@TB-cy1wt]

Very good advice! At 62 y.o I had a physiatrist prescribe deadlifts to strengthen my hip area due to severe hip arthritis. The movement irritated my lower back and then I found out on your channel that people with osteoporosis should not even attempt this exercise!! I immediately stopped. I am on Reclast for severe OP. What was this doctor thinking? Trying to self-educate so as to not cause injury. Thank you for your informative videos.

[@jestertrey3820]

Sounds like we can't do anything . Dead lift, squats and shoulder press are basic excersizes .. Could you show us what to replace them with ?

[@RC-hv1yx]

Exactly. It's like wtf are you supposed to do in the gym then?

[@tbillyjoeroth]

THEY DON'T RESPOND!

[@kaptajnklo5341]

Just to clarify straight legged dead lift is what they are recommending against, not dead lift entirely. Squats that go into end-range is what they are recommending against, not squats entirely.

[@ramonmaduena958]

Shoulder press can be replaced by dumbbells shoulder press.

[@Michael-cb5nm]

Ramon Maduena that would still cause impingement by their lights. I suppose the would not recommend any overhead movements.

[@guntotintxmama4203]

Quick question! I love a good straight leg deadlift, and absolutely get what you're saying, when I use a straight bar, my lower back fatigues faster than my hamstring. What I've been doing, is I place the end of the squat bar in a corner with weight on the other end. The weighted end goes between the legs, you grasp below the collar - and with slightly bent knees, neutral spine, tighten glute/hamstring and lift up. The bar is pretty much in your crotch at this point. I've been doing this and experience very little back fatigue...I feel like because the weight is stable, and you really have to hinge at your hips, it keeps you from engaging so much of your back. I feel more of a pull in my trapezius than anything. I'd love to hear your thoughts on if this variation is any safer!

[@JustinHagerPDX]

You caution against high intervertebral pressure, but how much pressure is the standard human able to safely experience with regular frequency? There may be high intervertebral pressure in the standing forward fold as compared to standing upright, but does that equate to dangerous, especially if there isn't discomfort? Thanks to all of you for making these videos :)

[@nuthinbutlove]

My trainer taught me to lay on an incline board holding a 25lb weight plate on my chest and do situps. Did wonders for my ab and back muscles at the time but I'm paying for it now. He also taught everything else you mentioned in this video and a lot more that I'm paying for. Every trainer who worked for that company taught the same for decades. No one seemed to know a better way to get in shape back then.

[@thedudeabides2531]

Wow. This rules out a whole lot of exercises with dumbbells to strengthen your back and legs.

[@jusohitafu]

Hi Bob and Bob, me again, these are my favorite and the only exercises I can do well with the dumbbells, bent over row, deadlifts, shoulder press. When will you be giving the alternatives to such exercises, looking forward to them. Thanks.

[@jusohitafu]

Awesome! I look forward to them!! Plus it does not help that where I live, we do not have a physiotherapist!

[@fabiancaius]

yes

[@francoisebeliveau1384]

For abdominals, one of the exercise we do in my classes is keeping a position (sitting on the floor) like the letter "V", much more opened though. Yes, its hard on the back but I have much stronger abdominals now. In fact, in my classes. I do almost every exercises you mentioned in your video....I am 61 years old and I want to stay fit but now, I do not know what to do. I used a lot of your exercises for different pain I had (impingement syndrome and others). And yes, I have shoulder and back and neck pain sometimes...I always thought it's because I use too heavy weights. I'm lost here...ALL the people where I take these classes are "trained" ...!!!! By the way, in yoga classes, we always bend our body and therefore stretch our lower back. Is that bad???

[@CortneyLyn09]

The form on the RDL (straight/stiff leg deadlift) was nowhere near how people should be doing it though. And the legs aren't actually stiff, they're slightly bent (about 30 deg) to just below the knee with hip hinge and bar close to you. Hip hinge is a great thing to teach as well. Love your videos but when performed right, they're a great exercise. :) I am also a physical therapist just not famous!! Lol or nearly as experienced.

[@bitethesun]

Great advice Bob and Brad; thanks for the wakeup call with these exercises! My future self thanks you :))))

[@bitethesun]

Thank you so much for all the great videos!

[@andyhoman1]

Love your site and the great information. Found you both initially because of a sore upper rt. (dominant) arm. I now realize it is probably some type of impingement and hopefully not a partial tear. Should I insist on an MRI to be sure?I'm a very active 75yr. old (eat healthy and do at least 12,000 steps each day).I had prostrate cancer and therefore hormonal therapy. Gained weight and lost strength. Now looking for some strength training that will not hurt what's left of my body.Thanks for any help,Andy

[@Hugatree1]

Bob and Brad ❤️❤️❤️❤️