NEW INNOVA GORGON REVIEW: I Wanted to Love It

[@beeter10]

Your tour series sphinx was the MVP this past weekend for me at my tournament. Fileting lines in the woods and just gliding down the fairway for days. Highly recommended it to multiple people asking what i was throwing after they saw its beautiful flight 😁

[@BodanzaDiscGolf]

So glad to hear!!! thank you for the support! Keep killing it!

[@TheRealNorth21]

I know people get on Innova’s case about inconsistent flight numbers, but at the very least when they throw a 6 on the glide you know it’s going to glide. I have around 350’ of distance on golf lines and the Gorgon just flies so much farther than the majority of my discs because of that glide, and my Aero is my furthest flying putter by far.

[@JeremySpaulding-fy8ts]

I have yet to see these inconsistent numbers

[@TheRealNorth21]

@@JeremySpaulding-fy8ts Yeah it’s not an issue for me either, but my point is that these are complaints I see a lot of from other disc golfers.

[@docxen]

It was like mcbeth back in the day ...top dog always gets the majority of the hate from the haters. Not a innova top guy myself but i got no problems with their discs.

[@sdreaver816]

Anecdotal, but I know of a few people who criticize the flight numbers on their discs when the discs are brought used or have a lot of throws on them. Like, yeah. It changes.

[@hunterdean5907]

This disc totally seemed like a 10 speed Sphinx when watching other reviews. I just like my Sphinx’s so much that I wouldn’t need the Gorgon.

[@BodanzaDiscGolf]

1000%

[@NotMedii]

I love getting off work and seeing an upload from you. Looking forward to watching more of your content, I’m a left handed player, just starting out, backhand is a real issue anything beyond 50 ft for me lol

[@BodanzaDiscGolf]

you got this!! thanks for watching :)

[@caseysmith544]

@@BodanzaDiscGolf If I had a disc company driver disc with 8 glide it better have dome like a very domed Shark or a higher domed Skeeter, possibly making as a 180 gram diameter disc for more space underneath for more glide.

[@docxen]

have you tried a rollo?

[@yllibslayer]

I bought a gorgon and a sphinx from infinite earlier this week. Played two rounds so far with both and the gorgon is just so unpredictable for me. The sphinx is more like my sidewinder with that reliable stability. My max distance is ~400ft on a good day so I had really high hopes for the gorgon but I don’t think it’s for me.

[@JohnBell3]

This is great. The best reviews are of multiple discs that are supposed to be similar so we see a direct comparison of flights.

[@Mikenewton4l]

Having both an innova TD and a Gorgon I can confirm they’re not the same mold.

[@jaredselby9952]

They are the same. No differences. No differences in side by side comparisons and in flight.

[@ryansuter4424]

About 480 feet with 1.9 cm Rim width disc Sphinx 🎉. Nicely done

[@blake4311]

just played that course last week in the snow... and im from california... got one of these discs this week and now im watching this video lol.... the chances

[@coryaronson2678]

Love the reviews but i think u should adjust the rules to ctp gets birdie and the rest get bogie so putting isn't deciding the disc scores the actual discs are... Or some kind of combination of scores i dunno exactly how but something that the discs have more impact on score rather than putting... Something to think about Have a good 1 brother

[@BodanzaDiscGolf]

@@coryaronson2678 if the scores determined the goodness of the disc then maybe but it’s just to keep things fun

[@johnsd333]

I ❤ this style of review. Appreciate you, AB. Daily upload is like a little gift in the morning 😊

[@ryansuter4424]

Beautiful throw with the Sphinx in hole 12!

[@jaredselby9952]

I’m glad you said that about the old innova made TD. I think it’s the same mold.

[@NickCarroll]

Someone else in the comments said they had both and they aren't the same mold. Just letting you know in case you didn't see it at the time you posted. 🙂 "Having both an Innova TD and a Gorgon I can confirm they’re not the same mold." @Mikenewton4l

[@Anticidal25901]

I found a G blend sphinx with no number on it a week or two ago. It’s quickly became one of my favorite discs. My wife has claimed it tho, as she can nearly effortlessly throw it 300’ which is 100’ more than any other disc she has lol. With that being said, I want to order myself a new one. Which would you guys recommend? Plastic wise.

[@BodanzaDiscGolf]

@@Anticidal25901 most stable are my TS halos, least stable are the I blend which tend to be flattest If you’re looking for a backup or replacement of that one, I blends are probably the way to go and are cheapest too!

[@robertflores2311]

Great video what course was this? I have family in Colorado so maybe one day I end up there.

[@BodanzaDiscGolf]

bird's nest!

[@IceBergTV]

The Gorgon is goated

[@TheCamperofCOD]

Is the Sphinx more stable in the halo plastic? I have the pink metal flake run you did, and it’s pretty stable compared to my old I-blend I think it was.

[@BodanzaDiscGolf]

@@TheCamperofCOD it’s a step up from the metal flakes but the MF and halo are closer to each other than either is to I blend

[@yeadogthazmyboi]

Yea I blend Sphinx is way more flippy. I’d say it’s pretty similar to the pro Gorgon in I blend

[@kevinlegg2556]

Plastic difference between Halo and Pro is going to make a difference. You also threw less confident with the Gorgons which made a lot of angle differences.

[@JTygerAU]

For the Gorgons I picked up - the slot they overlap with is “flippy roadrunner”. I also really wanted to like this disc, but why would I throw these when I trust my 3 already beat in champ roadrunners a lot more and they have basically the same flight. Can’t even imagine how these will fly when they get more beat. Maxed at 380’ on a distance throw with maybe 10 reps in a field…really struggled to find the angles. I can actually see them for the absolute beginner that needs a longer turning distance driver…but does a beginner even need that disc /shot?

[@Joecuzzi]

Any word on a Luster Sphinx or Halo C blend??

[@ryansuter4424]

What makes the Gorgon more flippy/ understable than the other discs?

[@PeachyKihn]

We have similar power and I have a blue gorgon. Mine is super angle sensitive but much straighter than yours on a hyzer flip.

[@ryansuter4424]

Aztec and Gorgon are very similar in listed dimensions and are more similar than they are to the Sphinx or TD. Out of the 8 dimension measurements listed on PDGA’s disc approval site only 3 are different. And not that different. Rim Height: Gorgon 1.6 Aztec 1.5 Rim configuration/sharpness of outside rim: Gorgon 34.75 Aztec 33 cm Flexibility: Gorgon 10.11 Aztec 10.80

[@ryansuter4424]

Gorgon has the largest Disc diameter and rim width of the 3 discs. Based on the Disc’s Rim diameter and Rim width/thickness dimensions the Gorgon should have the most distance potential if thrown with the correct angle,speed,torque and spin.

[@ryansuter4424]

Gorgon has a listed Rim width/thickness of 2.1 and the TD and Sphinx has a listed Rim width/thickness of 1.9

[@ryansuter4424]

From what I understood was that domey discs have less turn than non domey discs.

[@pallgumundsson1677]

I feel like if they ever make a halo gorgon it’ll fly like your halo sphinx.

[@ryansuter4424]

What is making the Pro Gorgon much flippierthan the Star Gorgon?

[@ryansuter4424]

Weights of discs?

[@frankcowan6625]

Hi Anthony I just gave away my taco stamp glow sphinx to a guy that was loving it so much I had to let him have it.... Well I could use another one.... I didn't think I'd miss it this much.

[@nomad182]

On this episode of "Flight Numbers Don't Matter"... I do truly think Innova has the most awkward flight numbers for any manufacturer because they supposedly only put their numbers up as comparisons to their other discs, and the only discs it falls between at 10 are the Beast and the -Monarch-... Weird. Think I'll stay with my metal-c flake and tour series sphinx. :)

[@jaredselby9952]

@@nomad182 Dave Dunipace has already said that you can’t compare flight numbers to discs with different speeds. He intended for the flight numbers to be compared with those of the same speed. I.E. comparing a PD to an Aztec to a Beast.

[@frankruda4912]

Hey Anthony, regards from Germany and I like your content and please move on with it. What do you think about German Discgolf? Hope to see you in Germany to make international content… Come over and I show you courses here… Best Frank

[@BodanzaDiscGolf]

would love to come out and play in Germany!! I'm hoping either next year or the year after to make a Europe trip with my family :)

[@frankruda4912]

@@BodanzaDiscGolf that sounds nice and let me know, I could organize your stay for your family, at least in our area. In a circle of 30 km we have 10 courses and I have a family too. See ya …. Frank

[@sdreaver816]

great idea Frank! definitely go to Germany! Love it there. I’m sure Simon can tell you about anything you need to know. Lived in Berlin for a few years and can offer help/guidance if you make it there. (Also, lived the city with a newborn-toddler)

[@PeachyKihn]

Hi Anthony! Thanks for always putting out content... no matter the time.

[@BowerP0w3r]

I have a lime green and white rim tour sphinx and it’s beautiful

[@daemn42]

You're throwing 480ft, while evaluating a disc that's considered "good for beginners" because it's flippy. No wonder it's not your cup of tea. Imagine how flippy it would be at sea level.

[@BodanzaDiscGolf]

I bet it would be super fun in the woods at sea level, not quite as flippy but kinda feels like a faster rollo w/ it's quick flip and lots of fade

[@themando2700]

I live in Florida I can confirm it’s very flippy at sea level especially the GStar plastic.

[@HyzerflipDAD]

Good for thought, no one has a fully beat in gorgon yet. I got mine early, throw them constantly and the flight is still changing. Love that glide though.

[@WillEnj0y]

If it’s mamba stability, they should label it accordingly

[@daemn42]

@@WillEnj0y I've thrown a Gorgon, it's definitely not a -5 turn like the Mamba. It is however a 10 speed, so if you put 12-13 power on it, it'll flip up or over harder. That was kinda my point. I suspect it would be a good driver for those driving in the 350ft range, more than those in the 450+ft range.

[@leeChMSI]

that phone drop at 12:47 though...oof

[@JohnFnLopez]

I couldn't tell if it was a patch or phone or wallet.

[@BodanzaDiscGolf]

@@leeChMSIyeah big oof

[@docxen]

ordered a star and pro so now i'm gonna become a great disc golf player right? lol

[@BodanzaDiscGolf]

@@docxen that’s what they say 🤷🏻‍♂️🫣

[@nwbearcat823]

I don’t like the rounded feel of the Gorgon in my hand. Haven’t tried to throw one yet to see if it will bother me.

[@sdreaver816]

Have you tried a Tesla yet? Very flat top, and similar numbers if I’m thinking correctly

[@WillEnj0y]

Is it basically a scorch?

[@jaredselby9952]

It’s basically the innova made TD

[@nicholaslarmour5647]

The next disc I am buying is yours

[@BodanzaDiscGolf]

❤

[@Iliyena87]

Not that many TD-fans taking offense since they hunt mostly the Innova-made ones still ;)

[@jrottendevil]

Social anxiety is probably the main reason I don't do KZbin. I already get weird when I feel like people are staring at me so holding a camera would probably make it worse lol

[@ToddsDiscGolf]

Just try. I have horrific social anxiety but doing KZbin videos is easy breezy. Let me know when you drop a video and I’ll leave a like and comment 👍

[@carlbrannbacka7490]

"that I probably have no bias towards" 😂

[@BodanzaDiscGolf]

@@carlbrannbacka7490 🤫

[@fourblades6001]

My old TD has no micro bread, but looks similar otherwise. I've been bagging one 10yrs. *edit : after close inspection my TD has some tiny blip on the bottom, & maybe in 2012 it was actually the same as this gore gone I just got.*

[@jaredselby9952]

It does have a micro bead on the old TD’s I have multiple in S-Line and D-Line and C-Line and they all have a micro bead.

[@jaredselby9952]

That’s funny bc my innova TD’s do have a micro beads. I have them in S-line, C-line, and D-line. All have micro beads.

[@fourblades6001]

@@jaredselby9952 ok I bought a gorgon & a magnifying glass. There IS something on the bottom of my old TD, but I guess it's just worn down over the last 10yrs and I didn't notice.

[@jaredselby9952]

@@fourblades6001it was slightly more pronounced when new, but it wears down quickly due to that’s where it takes a lot of hits, especially when it lands flat. I have an unthrown one from way back and the bead is easily noticed.

[@CoffeeonKorriban]

I went to go pick up a gorgon the other day, because ive heard good things about it, but it felt absolutely HORRID in the hand. Ended up snagging a 150g SUPER domey halo destroyer.

[@BigGuyLittleDisc]

Why do you even have a DX beast in your bag? would someone at your level actually use a DX that isn't a putter?

[@chriscarroll6447]

There's no need for this disc IMO. Very few 'pros' will bag this outside of maybe a roller disc. The majority of AMS won't be able to make this fly any different than the average Star Valkyrie. And the Valkyrie held the distance record for almost a decade... so the Gorgon is unnecessary. Just get a Valk.

[@BodanzaDiscGolf]

@@chriscarroll6447 👆🏼

[@chriscarroll6447]

@@BodanzaDiscGolf Or a tour series sphinx (my bad) 🤣

[@BodanzaDiscGolf]

@@chriscarroll6447 I mean, I didn’t want to have to say it… 🫡

[@chriscarroll6447]

@@Hyzerwyzer Going to disagree. When you get a similar dome star valk vs a star gorgon... they're very very similar, especially for anyone throwing under 4-450. And if the Valk came out today, it'd have a 5 glide. It's pretty much the most 'made up' number of all the flight #s.

[@chriscarroll6447]

@@Hyzerwyzer welcome to Innova inconsistencies. Snag a GStar Valk. They're cheat codes for lower arm speeds. (I'd like to also remind the KZbin replies that the Valk held the distance record for almost a decade)

[@noahvinson580]

"That was a very legal way to do it"

[@jamesfarabaugh6669]

The Aztec is one of the most overstable drivers in my bag. That and a composite Era. Maya is an 11 speed but might be more comparable on flippiness.

[@kevinharris9004]

I like my James Conrad detour way more than the gorgon way better flight and distance

[@jaxvaughan8168]

The glow goregon is a bomber

[@otisbrowndoggaming]

The word you danced around but couldn’t find all video is “convex”. 😂 Kept saying concave vs “a little bit rounded out like this”.

[@southtoe3607]

"Same as all the other 5 6 and 7 glides out there" Nah. Foh The Heat glides noticeably more than a Sidewinder. The River glides noticeably more than the TL.

[@garnerthecube]

Bodanthony I need to go to bed

[@BodanzaDiscGolf]

video will be here in the morning, rest up ;)

[@clydestange4460]

Bodanzy come to Dela

[@CasualRelief]

The Aztec is WAY more stable than the Gorgon in my experience.

[@jaredselby9952]

Not in I-blend. Those I-Blends are flippy.

[@CasualRelief]

​@@jaredselby9952 Man it depends run to run, disc to disc. I've had a couple of flippy Aztecs out of the box, but most I've gotten have been more stable than a new C-line CD1, definitely more stable than an ERA, like pretty much the same as a new roman. In the end the lack of consistency in the Aztecs drove me to the Roman/PD. That said a broken in i-blend aztec is the only disc I've ever broken 500ft with.

[@jaredselby9952]

@@CasualRelief even infinite puts the turn as a -3 instead of a -1 on the I-Blend.

[@CasualRelief]

@@jaredselby9952 They miss-printed one run with the wrong numbers but I've had several aztecs, iblend and sparkle glow. 1 of the iblends and one of the glow were strait/flippy out of the box the rest were pretty stable until pretty beat. (i throw golf lines 375--400 ft ). Basically i dropped them cause of the inconsistency. Now use the Roman/PD

[@billherrera6386]

TD is not the MVP. That will be the Trail🤣

[@BodanzaDiscGolf]

@@billherrera6386 😂😂

[@ToddsDiscGolf]

It’s not for you, dawg! Bro you’re on the pro tour now.

[@BodanzaDiscGolf]

lol I dabbled but def not on it yet!! I was surprised bc I really like flippier stuff, I think it was just a bit nose angle sensitive for me compared to like an avenger ss and others

[@TheAlwaysBreezy]

Pretty much a less stable beast 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@dabeastieboys3]

I throw a sapphire here

[@user-dz6tx8tc1w]

Leopard 🐆 3 my guy 7 speed but is an 8

[@BodanzaDiscGolf]

@@user-dz6tx8tc1w I have to throw those more

[@user-dz6tx8tc1w]

@@BodanzaDiscGolf 😏nah. Thunderbird R-pro pig CHAEGER! ☝️ Reverse them last #'s and your be in heaven homie .

[@DiscGolf_]

Talks fast...I had to check if my playback speed was accidentally set to 1.5X 😅

[@JeremySpaulding-fy8ts]

*laughs in roadrunner*

[@Slinkysees]

Your Sphinx stamp is $

[@BodanzaDiscGolf]

@@Slinkysees thank you!!

[@LaffyTheTaffy]

Random disc reviewer: throws disc on an anhyzer line, "ohhhh it's so understable". roll 🙄

[@griffinutley2523]

Anthony it’s too late for this

[@BodanzaDiscGolf]

🙈

[@alanlundberg4534]

I like your channel, but you compromise your credibility as a reviewer when you turn the review into a promotion video for your most familiar, and even eponymous, disc.

[@BodanzaDiscGolf]

@@alanlundberg4534 do you think the review was unfair at all or simply you think I should’ve have compared it with my TS disc?

[@alanlundberg4534]

@@BodanzaDiscGolf Anthony, I think having the Sphinx in the comparison was great, as it a competitor to the Gorgon. I know you are also very proud of those TS discs, as you should be. People coming to that video, like me, are interested in the Gorgon, so they expect a singular review of the Gorgon or an unbiased matchup with other similar discs on behalf of Infinite. You did exactly this. The only critique is that your pride regarding your Sphinx came across as a promotion. You may have missed the opportunity to promote four different discs, focusing on the strong points of each, in your zeal to express your love for the Sphinx. I watch a lot of your stuff, and I had not really seen that from you in the past. Thanks for doing what you do, and I wish you good fortune.

[@BodanzaDiscGolf]

@@alanlundberg4534 thanks for the feedback!! 😊