bodgit and leggit garage opel astra how to do timing belt (part 5)

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this video look at how to do a timming belt and a water pump on a 1997 opel astra
do this at your own risk take your time always triple check your marks and triple check again use lots of tippex
it will be satisfying to do a major job and get it right and save lots of money so good luck and have fun
A timing belt, timing chain or cam belt is a part of an internal combustion engine that synchronizes the rotation of the crankshaft and the camshaft(s) so that the engine's valves open and close at the proper times during each cylinder's intake and exhaust strokes. In an interference engine the timing belt or chain is also critical to preventing the piston from striking the valves. A timing belt is a belt that usually features teeth on the inside surface, while a timing chain is a roller chain.
Timing belts must be replaced at the manufacturer's recommended distance and/or time periods. Failure to replace the belt can result in complete breakdown or catastrophic engine failure, especially in interference engines.[4] The owner's manual maintenance schedule is the source of timing belt replacement intervals, typically every 60,000 to 80,000 miles

[@bodgitandleggitgarage]

I made a mistake in the video I said you should be able to twist a timing belt or 180° This is not true You're only supposed to twist it 90 degrees you can see in the video I say 180° but I only twist it and 90 degrees

[@mannismorris1994]

Ace

[@Supremizer]

Thank you so much for this! Bought my Corsa X14SZ 2 years ago. Without any technical car knowledge. I kept reading for months. Started with car basics, find out how a fuel engine works. This vid helped me so much... Changed 4 months ago the timing belt, tensioner, waterpump, thermostat, alternator belt. All parts were Gates. And replaced all other parts; oil, coolant, filters, sparkplugs etc. Today I checked the belt tension and it's still fine after 3000km/2000miles. The engine has driven 230.000km/150.000 miles and still no oil usage. Still going strong!

[@craigluke386]

Absolutely fantastic videos guys. I followed it step by step and completed the job as well as learning a hell of a lot about engines. Daunting at first attacking something I've not done before but with you're footage and a Haynes manual it saved me big money. Huge thanks and keep up the good work.

[@ajmcclay8746]

Been watching a load of your videos over the last few days, learning a lot they're really informative. Thanks for uploading them.

[@bodgitandleggitgarage]

aj mcclay thanks a lot for watching mate much appreciated don't forget your hands dirty

[@KarlPertl]

Thanks for making the effort for posting this and showing the tricky details! Fixing my old 1998 Holden Combo 1.4i ( Opel, Vauxhaul) SOHC C 14 SE . Has been an extremely reliable car so far! Thanks again!

[@poefje]

Best instruction vid I have ever seen on YT. Well done and thank you mate !

[@09091977]

Купил своей супруге такую машину . Для себя начал изучать обслуживание . Нашёл ваши видео уроки . Я совсем не понимаю о чём вы говорите , но вы на столько всё подробно отсняли на камеру , что всё понятно и без слов ! Спасибо вам ОГРОМНОЕ !!! ))

[@aleksandrzinkevics1253]

Сергей Останин Серега как опель еще едет?

[@jacquesblom2312]

Great video thanks and the explanation was perfect for me. I needed this video due to this specific timing belt tensioner as all the others I watched had the later type tensioner. Now I can finish the job with confidence.

[@franktherabbit42]

I work on these engines in college and this series has been incredibly helpful. Thank you!

[@bodgitandleggitgarage]

glad the vid help you out mate

[@omaridi5295]

work in exode

[@johnagnewq5069]

Great video I've just finished my 1st year. Of mechanics and wasn,t sure about doing the cylinder head gasket on my own Astra but after watching this I'm going to definatly go for it thx mate keep up the cracking vids.

[@bodgitandleggitgarage]

john agnewq thanks a lot mate much appreciated thanks for watching

[@shadeburst]

Thank you very much (sarc) for making me aware of how badly I've been ripped off in the past for things like replacing the water pump (two hundred hours labour, realigning the chakras etc). A gentleman mechanic would at least have had the courtesy to point a gun at me. By doing the cylinder head gasket myself I saved ninety per cent of what they quoted me (fortunately no warping as I caught it early). With my new confidence I think I'm ready for a job in Formula One.

[@fixingstuff8117]

There is much easier way to get timing belt on. Take out tensioner. Put timing belt on correctly according to marks. Then on the tensioner push the two moving parts so that the holes line up. Put alen key through holes. Now simply install the tensioner. It will go in easily. After inslalling it pull out allen key, and it will tension the belt.

[@azharmalik66]

A very detailed, elaborate video nobody has posted so far. I have learned a lot. hope, you will also post a video in parts showing how to reassemble Daewoo Lanos engine. God bless u and more grease to your elbow.

[@bodgitandleggitgarage]

thanks mate if i get 1 in i will

[@gcfcos]

Damn I miss working on engines like this. The timing belt changes I get given at work these days sometimes make me feel like jacking the whole trade in. I really miss those days. I used to love doing head gaskets but on some modern machinery I'd rather go home lol!!

[@bodgitandleggitgarage]

British-mechanic yes mate I know the feeling I know that feeling well lol thanks alot for watching

[@xxmicxxjohno]

Help me out a lot this video last week thanks mate.👍🏻

[@bodgitandleggitgarage]

thanks mate glad it help you

[@Thudoorr]

Very useful tutorial mate, cheers

[@michaelearle2719]

this one of the best tutorial i saw in a long time ... tnx for this

[@bodgitandleggitgarage]

thanks mate

[@matteomorandini8985]

Thanks for the useful video guys!😎

[@matthewburgess2637]

Thankyou so much for posting this clip. I will let you know how I go. The manual I have just doesn't have enough detail. The way you pronounce pump is great. Cheers

[@bodgitandleggitgarage]

thanks mate I'm glad I can help thanks for watching get your hands dirty

[@Peterpan-tw1eh]

Good job thats how i normally do it but when i see the crank seal is gone like that one seeing i stripped everything off ill change it

[@pandemulenga7440]

Awesome stuff man!!!!

[@ensoniq2k]

Thank you very much for your videos. With your help I was able to do all the work myself and save a shitload of money :-) I found the waterpump to be quite easy, only thing I had to do is unscrew the generator to have more room on my small corsa

[@bodgitandleggitgarage]

glad you liked it and thanks for watching mate

[@garypeatling7927]

Thanks for how to do rear axle bushes on Ford worked a treat made my own Bush fitter two bit of 10mil threaded rod ang couple bit of 40mil angle

[@piotrpiotr1454]

thanks m8 for great video. I have changed my timing belt in daewoo lanos 1.5 8v, it's very similar engine to this one.

[@bodgitandleggitgarage]

+jan kowalski hi mate thank you and thanks for watching

[@marksealeycalibra]

Great video again....I need to change the thermostat houseing gasket on my Calibra C20ne engine as its leaking....the only thing stoping me now is no air gun at home....we have one at work though...but no water to cool the engine means im not going to drive it....great work there mate !!! thanks

[@aboywithawhiteaudi3032]

dont need one, i always do it without air gun. just put it in the 4th gear and let somebody push the brakes en then you can loosen the bolt of the pulley

[@mandlasimelane2656]

superb fantastic i have been strugling with mine but since you i watched your presentation all went good

[@bodgitandleggitgarage]

thanks mate thanks for watching much appreciated

[@cp16123]

Great video! I need to change the thermostat on this engine. Complete amateur though. Is it possible to remove the top cam with the belt still on and leave it hanging on a spring or for somone to help hold it, so the plastic cove can be removed to get to the thermostat housing? Im worried about messing up the engine timing. Any help or guidance is appreciated!

[@s34nvideos]

Great video. Looking to get the job done tomorrow on the driveway. Your new tensioner, arent they usually loaded with a pin? So when you install it, you just pull the pin and the tension is set.

[@bodgitandleggitgarage]

Thanks a lot mate have fun doing yours it all depends on the car sometimes they have pins in sometimes they don't it just depends on the tensioner as long as you adjust it right you're not going to have any problems

[@suntzuwarsword1964]

Understood loud and clear....Thank you

[@bodgitandleggitgarage]

thanks mate

[@killerguitarvoodoo]

Enjoyed watching that. Cheers

[@bodgitandleggitgarage]

Thanks mate

[@user-oi7il4pb2e]

It seems clear thanks for teaching us.

[@hevimetallimias]

HI, good video. Did you tighten the pulley using air gun / bolt gun? I've heard theres high chance of breaking the little notch that keeps the pulley in certain position to break if you use air gun to tighten it all the way.

[@user-jx4vi8ok8r]

Hi love your vids 💓 I’ve got a Astra like this the thermostat stuck open is it a timing belt cover off to replace the thermostat ?

[@sagecouncil]

Excellent instructions.. Thanks

[@bodgitandleggitgarage]

thanks you

[@ershardjansen2750]

How's it bru thnx for the info so how do I set cam timing if I don't have the covers with the timing markings

[@TaragoPreviaEstima]

Any chance you can show where all the vacuum lines go. I was just given one of these cars and I have a vacuum line I can't find where it belongs.

[@gabrielbaum9660]

These videos a truly awesome!!!! 👍👍👌

[@bodgitandleggitgarage]

thanks mate glad you like it

[@whiteyliebenberg9887]

Brilliant Thanks especially how to set the water pump right

[@bodgitandleggitgarage]

thanks mate

[@TheDaewooooo]

Great explanation .....best regards

[@AarifKhan-mg2kq]

tata indica raining

[@warabilebaikedi1199]

That's good I really like it because it help a lot.thanks for the info

[@bodgitandleggitgarage]

Glad to hear that!

[@chrisrobey9937]

Good well explained video mate

[@bodgitandleggitgarage]

thanks mate

[@demil3618]

Yes, this water pump can be a right pain. I did one that was also seized. Had to sandpaper the inside as otherwise the new one wouldn’t even fit in (let alone let me turn it!).

[@adamfletcher4262]

Cheap dishwasher tablets work well for cooling system cleaning as the don't foam up and cause to much pressure

[@lourensgoosen5861]

Thanx Buddy this will save me a lot of money. Mechanics here in South Africa rips us off

[@bodgitandleggitgarage]

ant time mate thanks you

[@fransjoubert4182]

Excellant. Good video! Live in Namibia (Africa) and have Corsa 2006 model.

[@kudamusimwa3938]

Thanks for the great video. Where is the thermostat housing for this vehicle?

[@bodgitandleggitgarage]

thanks mate the top rad pipe mate

[@recorobertos]

Thanks very great video 😊

[@davidwhateley260]

Hello, when you do water pumps with the rubber O seal is it recommended to use a sealant too? cheers

[@michaelboocock6060]

thanks for that bogit, so you get a 'pretension' on the cam belt by using the 'eccentric adjustment' built into the water pump pulley mounting - I hope I got that, Mick

[@bodgitandleggitgarage]

+MIchael Boocock hi mate best of luck just take your time mark it well and you will be good thanks for watching don't forget get your hands dirty

[@sashinpadayachee2652]

Great Video!! Thank you for that. I just want to find out does the same method apply for opel kadette 200is?

[@bodgitandleggitgarage]

hi mate very similar

[@davidanetic8463]

It can be a.good video for daewoo nexia timing belt replacement because its almost same engine

[@judgedredd9574]

good video

[@patrick9761]

best vid on holden barina thanks for the help!

[@bodgitandleggitgarage]

thanks mate

[@patrick9761]

we are over here in Tasmanian watching your vids Unreal! we call them a holden barina combo over here and very popular vehicle and cheap, so thanks for the help! you saved us over $1000

[@patrick9761]

I spelled Tasmania wrong:)

[@bodgitandleggitgarage]

Pat Rick it's nice to know people around the world are watching my videos mate thanks a lot

[@shireensaunders9898]

Hi there. My timing belt was changed a year ago. And since that time I had erratic idling on my opel meriva. Was there an error when the timing chain was replaced?

[@garethmcnally5349]

good vid...nice one mate

[@innamanjoubert9881]

What about the failed crank oil seal behind the crank cam pulley?

[@naveencarworld.2782]

Thnq for ur valuable information sir..

[@bodgitandleggitgarage]

It's my pleasure

[@Mandla_eze_GMazai]

Hi there, i Got an Astra f & i want to replace my V belt tensioner, do you have a video on how to progress with this..?

[@fdr1895]

PS. As a DYI I had to content with an odd designed tensioner, like the one you demonstrated in the clip. Many thanks for unpuzzling my dilemma.

[@nikolaradakovic6028]

Nice job!

[@moseschomba6780]

Morning ?am behind on how to adjust the tension

[@adilnoor2300]

I am planning to change my astra 1999 saloon timing belt. What tools do i need . I dont have any tool. Please list all types of tools i require to get this job done. Kind regards

[@ooOldSkoOlmaDneSss]

Very nice work my friend congratulations👏👏👏 I only have one question could the valves be noisy if you miss a little from the timing belt ?

[@temelon]

I think it is the camshaft. It is worn and needs to be replaced at some point.

[@carsonharding5134]

Thanks for the video it helped me so much saved a good dead on money my job was done very good it even runs better...!!!! :)

[@bodgitandleggitgarage]

any time mate thanks

[@nigelbus5919]

Hello ,This video has been a great help to me i own 2 astra's a 04 mk4 1.6 and 1.7dti my 1.6 has only done 40.000 miles ,anyway ive nearly finished it ,ive got the tensioner set up right-ish by turning the water pump as you said,(cant belive its only 3 washers holding it in ) ,ive turned the engine by hand a couple of times and the pointer on the tensioner seems to move around a bit but settles around where the cut out bit ,so thinking i'd put the bottom pully back on and start her up , all is well ,the pointer stays in the right place ,But the second time i ran the engine for longer as i put water back into the rad ,after i done that i turned off and i ended up looking at the tensioner and the pointer was above out of the cut out ,i was nearly going to move the water pump again when mum called me,when i finally got back to do it ,the pointer was back in the right place again ,was this because the engine had cooled down? thank you!

[@bodgitandleggitgarage]

+Nigel bus thanks mate and thanks for watching

[@olipirard]

Super interesting video. Thank you very much. I got a question by the way, can we lock the camshaft and the crankshaft in somehow? Like with drill bits or some sort?

[@bodgitandleggitgarage]

Olivier Pirard hi mate yes you can depending on the vehicle if you look at a lot of my time about videos I do use drill bits and bolts and things like that depending on the car I'm working on

[@olipirard]

bodgit and leggit garage And on this 1.4 Opel engine, does it exist such holes to put bolts trough to lock cam and crank shafts?

[@noobsproject2322]

hi there, after i watched this video i tried to replaced my timing belt, tensioner and water pump and done it right, but when i turned the crankshaft clockwise to check, it has a mere pressure in it, then as i pursue twisting i heard a popping sound and as i checked the camshaft sprocket it was off to timing. why is that sir?

[@Casshern1985]

Thank you so much man

[@jennifermaxwell4637]

Great video just subscribed,

[@bodgitandleggitgarage]

thanks mate and thanks for watching dont forget get your hands dirty

[@moeketsidavid8671]

my opel problem im facing is that my car idle nicly but when you drive it when you accelerate raffcount it shows that it has power but when im on the road my car it doesn't have power it seems like is compression but i did overall putting new rings on it..or it maybe a poll or what can be the problem?

[@MrHoolahan]

Thank You wery much , Bro ! You help me so much !

[@bodgitandleggitgarage]

Farkas Csaba thanks a lot mate much appreciated glad it helped you

[@emmanuelpulere9422]

Wat is the size of the astra 97 model 1.6

[@emmanuelpulere9422]

Fan belt size

[@6uiti]

timing tensioner pully is self tighting meaning it will come at rest on its own..

[@williamsuleyman3018]

With a job like this were the inside of the engine is milky,,I always put old used engine oil with 1 litre of diesel run until hot then drain it all out,,you will be surprised how clean the engine will be ,then as you mentioned put cheap new oil in it ,then have it back in a few weeks to put a decent brand of oil in it,,Sorted

[@markritchie3584]

I once had a guy turn up at the door with one of these with the belt broken how he got it up the hill I'll never know he was all for scrapping the car as it was a bit of a shed and thought the engine was ruined. I offered to put a new belt on and show him it would be OK knowing it is a non interference engine as I had a belt there at the time he said OK and said he would come back next day I made him wait and 20 minutes later he was driving away happy as Larry minus 30 quid. Those were the days. Nowadays a belt is a nightmare on most motors I'm glad I changed careers.

[@idrissevim8652]

thank you my friend

[@bodgitandleggitgarage]

+idris sevim thanks mate

[@grahamhayman3549]

Great video, really helpful but could you answer three questions for me please? 1) Does the belt turn clockwise as you look at it (if the new belt has the arrows you mention I want to be sure which way it fits)? 2) Can the bottom pulley bolt be reused? Some says its a stretch bolt and must be replaced but I would have thought a new one would come with the kit if that were the case. 3) When you said to turn the engine over twice to listen for rattles, etc, how do you turn it? Is that just by turning one of the pulley bolts with a spanner? Thanks.

[@bodgitandleggitgarage]

Graham Hayman hi mate yes as you are looking at the timing belt turn it clockwise on some of the newer cars you can't reuse the boat you have to check the service information to be sure as you can see in all my time in videos I turn the bottom crank by hand with a ratchet to make sure there's no binding to make sure it turns fully this will ensure you've got the time incorrectly before you start it

[@ionutgosa4509]

bravo!!!

[@nasserhmed1496]

ممتاز على الشرح الوافي،،،،شكرا جزيلا

[@nasserhmed1496]

ممتاز جدا وعملى جدا وشكرا على الشرح الوافي

[@amirulasyrafamatshastri8579]

Thanks a bunch mate!i've been trying to figure out for almost a week now and suddenly i came across to your video and the main culprit was the waterpump not being at the right place as it should. this engine is mounted on the Chevrolet Aveo of the Malaysian Market. cheers mate🎉

[@sivuyilesithelo3146]

Just changed water pump and won't get it started timing is perfect. You mean the water pump is not in the correct position?

[@amirulasyrafamatshastri8579]

@@sivuyilesithelo3146 what i did was,twisting the waterpump anti-clockwise until the belt stretches tight. Once its tight, then release the main tensioner of the timing belt. It works fine for me and the engine runs good. You're gonna have to play around with the waterpump so that the pulley of the waterpump be in the best tightened position. good luck mate👍

[@thomasmakhubela7837]

Question! Is it a mast to loosen the tensioner always when I replace timming belt

[@temelon]

Yes. But you should change the timing tensioner too.

[@joseantoniomoreno2182]

great explanation.

[@bodgitandleggitgarage]

thank mate thanks for watching

[@joseantoniomoreno2182]

Thank you for teaching us.

[@left-handedsailor4772]

Well, I marked position of old water pump and mounted new. Then I mounted tensioner and then belt. Then I set tensioner in middle position and tighten up 13mm bolt. And all is fine.

[@joaoc_PT]

thanks, my belt jumped a few teethes (wonders of no rev limiter carb...)

[@aleksandrekutateladze8266]

can you show, How change alternator bearings (Opel Astra 1995 Remy Delco 70 Amp)

[@bodgitandleggitgarage]

Aleksandre Kutateladze hi mate yes if i can get that car in or if i can find a old altermator i will no prob thanks

[@luislisboalisboa7298]

good job i like to be your learner

[@lukeisaac7710]

Is it pretty much the same with a z18xe? Looks similar just the z18xe is twin cam. Any tips for changing timing belt on the z18xe? Great vid

[@bodgitandleggitgarage]

hi mate yeah pretty much the same if it's a 16 valve you will have to CAMS rather than one at the top all I can say to is tippex will be your best friend mark everything up with the original timing marks also market with tippex if you go wrong you can clearly see from the tip X marks always turn it over by hand before you start and just take your time you should have no problem thanks for watching

[@jamieharrison5192]

Hi lad I’m after some help iv got a Vauxhall Astra h 1.7 09 I’m having real trouble setting up the time after new head gasket wounding if u can help ??? 🥺🥺🥺🥺

[@kersy1953]

good video mate

[@bodgitandleggitgarage]

thanks mate

[@tarrain6365]

nice vids. My car is pretty similar, just electronic firing model 1999. When you take off the first pulley how do you lock the engine without that proper tool? or maybe you have that tool. I don't have air tools either. just trying to save some money.

[@bodgitandleggitgarage]

Tar rain hi mate if you can manage to lock the flywheel you will be able to use a breaker bar to take off the bottom Bolt but be very careful with this as you can damage your flywheel very easy

[@tarrain6365]

bodgit and leggit garage . Thanks for your reply. I've bloody ordered the locking tool now. I honestly thought it would be more like a screw driver. but it was in fact of a shape I could not easily substitute. don't have air tools. no tricks up my sleeve. just trying to get this good old car back running. as a blown head gasket would usually retire a car of this age. but yes your videos doing the head on this car have been the most helpful out of all my info sources, including the manual, cheers.

[@TheStan80]

Miss my mk3 astra, Great cars and regret selling mine

[@arunayuven2102]

Can you explain to me why all the Pistons arrow is always looking gearbox not timing side🤔🤔❓

[@christophbenninghaus5260]

Hey... Can i use your video for change timing belt on my astra 1.6 8v z16se or is there something different? i also want to change the simmering, have you an explanation therefore?

[@bodgitandleggitgarage]

Christoph Benninghaus hi mate basically the same just take your time use tippex to Mark everything you really can't go wrong take pictures if you're unsure but most importantly just take your time Mark everything you will not go wrong

[@gregorysiok6694]

HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO CHANGE ON THIS CAR OR A MERIVA?

[@ItaliavsChile]

Hey, thanks for the great video. I have a problem on my corsa b 1.4 x14sz engine, after changing the water pump, thermostat, filters oil and coolant sensor the engine temperature is up to 100 degree C. I drained the system twice and took patience making sure the heating matrix was also free of air, but the temperature still up into the clouds, the funny thing is that the coolant is not boiling, and the radiator fan works fine. I also look for signs of head gasket damage such as oil contamination on cooling or signs of the car drinking oil or water but nothing wrong showed up. My conclusions and questions to you. 1. Electric, doggy sensor again showing the wrong temperature, already replaced the coolant sensor and tested back with the old faulty one showing the same behavior. 2. Could be the beginning of a head gasket failure! 3. Radiator blocked some how, try already pumping water without flow constrains. 4. Wrong orientation on the water pump (this one is difficult to check as on the water pump location there is a marking and also in your video i can see the orientation is the right one.(maybe there is another way to mount the pump creating more flow)? Help me out!

[@bodgitandleggitgarage]

hi mate have you bled the system when you put fresh water and coolant you have to bleed the system to make sure it's not a lot if the system is a locked the car will overheat all you need to do is turn the heater on full heat inside and the fan on full make sure you have enough water and coolant in the bottle take off the bottle cap and wait to the fan to kick in when you've taken off the cap all the air can be released but on some cars you have to twist a little valve near the thermostat so just check which one you have hope this helps thanks

[@ItaliavsChile]

Hi there, sorted by replacing the temperature sensor, apparently a normal aftermarket has a negative effect on the ECU readings, last night went to a auto parts shop here in Denmark and bought the same original sensor that cost me only 3 pounds compare to 15 of the aftermarket, after installing the issue dissipated and tested also the coolant reservoir with a chicken or turkey needle sensor giving out between 87 and 95 degree during driving and idle. By the way for all of you that wonder what orientation the water pump must have, this video show it a the point were our trusted mechanic is trying to break loose the water pump. Thanks again for the amazing video!!

[@EdgewithHedge]

just drive the car with AC On in moderate position and the radiator and fan will start and it will eventually make the engine cold. Try it and tell me if it is working or not. In India We do like that

[@MultiCoffeetogo]

Mein Freund, schönes Video. Aber warum hast du den Simmerring der Kurbelwelle nicht erneuert? Man kann erkennen, dass dieser undicht ist.

[@bodgitandleggitgarage]

Hallo Kumpel, danke, das Siegel war gut

[@temelon]

Hey do you know where I can find the engine code? I know it is the X16SZR but I mean the number code? The car is Astra G.

[@OffGridInvestor]

Proper coolant instead of rusty water may likely have slowed up thr corrosion due to the hexavalent chromium in the coolant.

[@bodgitandleggitgarage]

💪👍

[@alin069]

the engine is Z 16 SE or the same?

[@johnagnewq5069]

Hi sorry to bother but I have been told to use sealant when do the gaskets what do you think mate I intend to use torque wrench. Thanks mate would appreciate your opinion.

[@bodgitandleggitgarage]

john agnewq hi mate what gasket are you talking about if you are talking about the head gasket then definitely not head gasket's have their own special sealer and ceiling on them you just need to put them down and took them to spec