Body found in homemade casket and dumped at Harrisburg cemetery

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@cocoa_bean_queen
@cocoa_bean_queen 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe the family couldn’t afford a funeral and did the best they could given the circumstances. Someone took the time to make a coffin for his 5’10 350lb frame; seems like they cared about him. They clearly placed him in the most logical place instead of blatantly mishandling his remains. RIH, sir. 🙏🏾
@rrrobeltnest7295
@rrrobeltnest7295 2 жыл бұрын
I think he did this to himself family probably abandoned him he didn’t want to end up in a potters grave. I doubt the family built him a coffin and carried him there when they could just make a phone call to be rid of him.
@SnowPiercer1975
@SnowPiercer1975 2 жыл бұрын
@@rrrobeltnest7295 Huh? So he built the coffin....died and then delivered himself to the cemetery? Man, I'd love to see how he accomplished that on his own 🤣
@tyceehamilton
@tyceehamilton 2 жыл бұрын
@@SnowPiercer1975 😂😂😂 I had to read that comment twice just to make sure I read that correctly!! Your comment hass me in tears!!!😜
@shondasmith5470
@shondasmith5470 2 жыл бұрын
@@SnowPiercer1975 Lol, You took me down a strange rabbit hole... RRRRobelt Nest. Your comment makes no sense 🤣
@SnowPiercer1975
@SnowPiercer1975 2 жыл бұрын
@@shondasmith5470 Lol, IKR🤣. It was in response to the other comment saying "he did it to himself". Maybe he should have dug the hole and buried himself also?🤣
@glynnisthomas9165
@glynnisthomas9165 2 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling funeral prices are the real crime here.
@tiffanyingram3444
@tiffanyingram3444 2 жыл бұрын
Jenkys
@dabprod
@dabprod 2 жыл бұрын
@@dsanders5142 Ah yes. Aren't you the compassionate one. You have NO idea of the circumstances.
@jimsmith9819
@jimsmith9819 2 жыл бұрын
in 2011, funerals were running 5,000.000 up, mostly 10,000.00 and more
@CxJJxD
@CxJJxD 2 жыл бұрын
@@dsanders5142 Ignorant
@ahoward3503
@ahoward3503 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure it's always somebody else's fault
@kellybee1935
@kellybee1935 2 жыл бұрын
This is what happens when families can’t afford to bury their loved ones. This is so sad.
@thisisme3238
@thisisme3238 2 жыл бұрын
@@hycoperosity5843 Thanks for sharing your information.
@HolySpiritActivated
@HolySpiritActivated 2 жыл бұрын
@@brendamills13 they actually might clone u tho
@alfredthecucumber9757
@alfredthecucumber9757 2 жыл бұрын
@@brendamills13 You have to remember that not everyone wants to be cremated though or it's against their beliefs. My grandmother doesn't want to be cremated because she's an old school catholic
@kay-collins
@kay-collins 2 жыл бұрын
@@brendamills13 but still a lot of people don’t know how to go about donating the body or cremating or anything. When they can’t afford literally anything they’re scared to make any phone calls to find out it’s something else they are expected to pay for & making any phone call like that, you’re expecting to hear how much something is going to cost you not “it’s free.” Take it from someone who was raised EXTREMELY poor... you don’t know about much of anything besides “how am I going to get these bills paid”. You don’t know what help is out there, you don’t know how to go about getting any, like you literally don’t know about anything besides the 9-5 to pay your bills. & they don’t advertise help available to you either.
@nancyfahey7518
@nancyfahey7518 2 жыл бұрын
@@brendamills13 that inexpensive plain crematory cost over $1200.
@barryoconnor721
@barryoconnor721 2 жыл бұрын
The price of funerals are TOO DAMN HIGH
@Nina-fp3jv
@Nina-fp3jv 2 жыл бұрын
Yep it takes money to live it takes money to die
@Angel-tw3ko
@Angel-tw3ko 2 жыл бұрын
Life insurance is a thing..
@lisamckennon3025
@lisamckennon3025 2 жыл бұрын
@@Angel-tw3ko so is poverty
@SnowPiercer1975
@SnowPiercer1975 2 жыл бұрын
@@SqueakyWheel__Inc. Lol, yeah sure.... nobody was poor before Biden 😉😉🤣
@williamelliott
@williamelliott 2 жыл бұрын
@@Angel-tw3ko life insurance is a thing but I got really sick and was not able to work walk or crawl and after several years went by before I got disability and Medicare. At that point I was unable to keep life insurance and after disability and age I can't afford it. You will find many in this bad situation. Don't judge without facts
@britmturner843
@britmturner843 2 жыл бұрын
There are simply NO resources for people who don’t have the financial means to lay a loved one to rest properly.
@xbrandi12345x
@xbrandi12345x 2 жыл бұрын
You're right and there should be.
@ShieAyla
@ShieAyla 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly for the GREAT COUNTRY we are, it's pathetic.
@JF-wn2yb
@JF-wn2yb 2 жыл бұрын
@@brendamills13 Haha those options are fine and dandy but in terms of a proper burial or even cremation, it's incredibly expensive (for my 12 lb mini dachshund I paid almost a grand) and not within everyone's means, that's just reality. However, I agree with you that "dumping a body" isn't 👍, but I'm sure it wasn't the first choice. Seems like an act of desperation 😢.
@MichaelSmith-jb5md
@MichaelSmith-jb5md 2 жыл бұрын
@@JF-wn2yb How is building a casket and taking them to a cemetery dumping a body? the fact they built him a casket and took him says a poor family just lost their Father/Grandfather and didn't have the money for a ceremony and plot.
@EmSi2
@EmSi2 2 жыл бұрын
Not everyone's religion finds the giving of one's body to science and research as an option. Actually my state has assistance for people who cannot afford a proper burial through each county. I'm not sure about a typical casket burial, but I know they do help people pay for cremation.
@lorriegallardo8053
@lorriegallardo8053 2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised this doesn't happen more offen bc of the outrageous cost of a burial.
@finlockheart8763
@finlockheart8763 2 жыл бұрын
@@brendamills13 Okay and some people only have $30 in their account
@finlockheart8763
@finlockheart8763 2 жыл бұрын
@@brendamills13 some have even less
@shawnahall7656
@shawnahall7656 2 жыл бұрын
Yes they kill you and then exspect you to have money for burial...not me through me in a pit and cover me up.
@kay-collins
@kay-collins 2 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. I was thinking the exact same thing. Like “is this really a rare occurrence because I’d be surprised if so”.
@kay-collins
@kay-collins 2 жыл бұрын
@@brendamills13 hold on, you think $695 isn’t a lot of money?? To a HUGE amount of people in this country that would have them behind on some bills for a few months... I know countless people right now who would not be able to afford that $695 without putting them behind on other bills & struggling to catch up for months. In fact, I know there’s more people in my hometown city that couldn’t afford that than ones who could. Forget not having that in a savings account, I know who don’t have a savings account at all, not even an empty one, in fact, I know MANY people without a bank account of any kind. & you think that $700 is just what chump change to everybody??
@queenofkings7453
@queenofkings7453 2 жыл бұрын
Can we regulate funerals? It’s disgusting what funeral homes charge. Completely sad at a time when families are at their lowest point!
@stephenhodges1688
@stephenhodges1688 2 жыл бұрын
Open a funeral parlor and see what you can do it for.
@queenofkings7453
@queenofkings7453 2 жыл бұрын
@@stephenhodges1688 not an interest of mine and I know it doesn’t cost 10,000 to hold a funeral. Please!
@questionauthority4038
@questionauthority4038 2 жыл бұрын
NO! We have too much regulation now. We do not need more for pity sake.
@lizxu322
@lizxu322 2 жыл бұрын
@@questionauthority4038 sounds like someone enjoys ripping people off...did we strike a nerve?
@questionauthority4038
@questionauthority4038 2 жыл бұрын
@@lizxu322 The only people ripping people off are control freaks in our government pushing laws and agendas to control us and sheep who follow obediently so they can feel a false sense of security. Based on your response to my comment, you fall into one of those two categories. Perhaps you would prefer to live in China under CCP dictatorship.
@takejoy3082
@takejoy3082 2 жыл бұрын
Is it eerie? The coffin and remains were likely not "dumped," but placed there out of respect for the deceased, hoping for a burial. A homemade casket is likely the result of not having the financial resources to pay for a commercial casket and burial services. Certainly laws suggest a crime has been committed since you can no longer bury your loved ones without paying money to the undertaker and the government, but the crime is not necessarily depraved.
@quiettime9020
@quiettime9020 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. I didn't like them saying ..dumped😡 like he was trash. They didn't have money to bury him. Dig a hole. They did most of the work..geesh. they cared enough about him to create something for him.
@oregonwanderer
@oregonwanderer 2 жыл бұрын
The state of Oregon does not force anyone to pay for someones burial if they can't afford it. There are always funds available from the state if you honestly cannot afford to pay.
@gloriafontenot1621
@gloriafontenot1621 2 жыл бұрын
Give me a break you're not concerned about the relatives paying their respects you're worried about charging someone for illegally placing a casket without paying for the site!
@djjohnson5013
@djjohnson5013 2 жыл бұрын
🤫🤭🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@thomasschwarting5108
@thomasschwarting5108 2 жыл бұрын
That would be my best guess!!
@mckaylaaelisee
@mckaylaaelisee 2 жыл бұрын
I think the health risks posed to members of the community visiting the cemetery also probably play a part there. Whether that’s regulated or not I’m not sure.
@MariaAbrams
@MariaAbrams 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly my thoughts. I actually feel really bad for whoever did this because they've already lost someone they obviously cared about (you don't go thru all the hard work of building a casket, transporting it with a large, heavy person inside -which is why I think more than one person did this- and leave it at the cemetery and take those risks for someone you don't care for) and now when they find out who it was, they are going to be charged and I don't think that's right. Obviously we can't be having a ton of people doing this, but it really should tell people something. Funerals and even just cremations are super expensive and most states offer very little to zero financial help for funerals. It's sad. Instead of arresting this person, they need to find out how they can help them. Obviously there's a reason this was done. Maybe they're having really bad financial problems and could use some help. There might be more going on than we think. I really think this is a time to help, not hurt.
@MariaAbrams
@MariaAbrams 2 жыл бұрын
@@mckaylaaelisee what health risks? Dead bodies pose zero threat. Zero (unless the person had Ebola, that's about the only time a dead body would pose any sort of threat to people, animals or the environment). Death is a part off nature, nothing about it is a danger in ANY way. The smell would probably be the worst thing. And it might be unsettling for some people to see, but he's in a casket and can't even be seen. Obviously this isn't something that we should all do, but it poses no risk or danger. Maybe if the casket fell on someone while being moved, but that's about it. It's a very common belief that dead bodies pose a risk or threat, but they don't. If you'd like to know more, check out caitlin doughty on KZbin. She's a really cool, fun funeral home owner and author. Or Kari the mortician is good too. Both give a LOT of very good information in a fun way.
@alwaystrustinthelordone
@alwaystrustinthelordone 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my goodness 😮 I would bet money the family did not have enough money to bury him. So sad 😢 RIP sir, and condolences to the family. At least they made him a casket to give him some dignity. It should not be so expensive to bury people.
@juliaweber212
@juliaweber212 2 жыл бұрын
I agree
@beverlybalius9303
@beverlybalius9303 2 жыл бұрын
Now thats the truth,,, that’s 1 reason I chose Cremation.$3,000 vs $20,000,,, and some charge just $800 to cremate.
@drunkenpirate3201
@drunkenpirate3201 2 жыл бұрын
@@beverlybalius9303 that's what I will do. No need for anything else. Burn me put me in a dumpster...were they put my ashes is fine with me.
@Feed_the_Kitty_a_Hotdog
@Feed_the_Kitty_a_Hotdog 2 жыл бұрын
Even so direct cremation in some states is as cheap as $800 and if the family can’t afford you can apply for burial assistance.
@angeliquedevosd416
@angeliquedevosd416 2 жыл бұрын
I agreed
@janellemarieclark2780
@janellemarieclark2780 2 жыл бұрын
It does not sound like foul play. A homemade casket takes time and energy to build and his weight probably not easy to move. It probably a case of a friend or family member not being able to afford the funeral or burial or cremation and just hoping at least cemetery would give him burial spot.
@thisisme3238
@thisisme3238 2 жыл бұрын
RIP DECEASED PERSON 🙏
@glashaydavis905
@glashaydavis905 2 жыл бұрын
I was scared to open the comment section but I was pleasantly surprised at everyone being so supportive to this family. Very sad circumstances but I think a lot of people now just understand all the levels of hard times and this is one example. I am so sorry for the family cause I am sure they didn’t want to do this but didn’t have a choice.
@ryuukakhadijah7766
@ryuukakhadijah7766 2 жыл бұрын
True 😢
@YaronaYah
@YaronaYah 2 жыл бұрын
Right!? Same here
@Brind-amour
@Brind-amour 2 жыл бұрын
Agree. 🙏🏼
@thisisme3238
@thisisme3238 2 жыл бұрын
I agree too, and the family did the best they could and cared that he was given a casket and taken to a graveyard.
@LexiLovesYouXO
@LexiLovesYouXO 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate that everyone is pointing out how expensive it is for a funeral, and I’m sure the family was trying to give him the best that they could.
@misterpsych3804
@misterpsych3804 2 жыл бұрын
I would think a man as large as this, 350 pounds would be missed. That’s a fairly uncommon size. These people most probably did not have the cash for a traditional burial. Since an average burial is $7600. God bless the deceased.
@alwaystrustinthelordone
@alwaystrustinthelordone 2 жыл бұрын
Agree totally.
@phyllislowe3942
@phyllislowe3942 2 жыл бұрын
Cremation is an option.🤷
@dw3403
@dw3403 2 жыл бұрын
@@phyllislowe3942 They still want money.
@phyllislowe3942
@phyllislowe3942 2 жыл бұрын
@@dw3403 Not nearly as much.
@taniesha64
@taniesha64 2 жыл бұрын
My grandmothers casket was 6k alone just for the casket.
@samiam9059
@samiam9059 2 жыл бұрын
What a heartfelt way to give respect. Remember my father when I was a little guy as this is no comparison to this story. Our cat was hit by a car and my father made a wooden box and then with wood burning tool burned a beautiful rose on the cover and real rose by his head with some velvet inside. He was an incredible artist up until he died and left me with his unreal lifelike carvings. Would bet these people had best intentions with little means. Rip
@deneenprice4582
@deneenprice4582 2 жыл бұрын
PRAISE The TRUTH 💥 ESPECIALLY, when we don't understand, the reason why anyone has done what was decided to be done but at the same time it May have made a lot of since, to the person or people who have done this because there are a lot of reasons why I could come up with for doing something like this 🗣️💯 but if I tried to EXPLAIN it it would take me a while to do so ❤️. This (PROJECT) is how things were done BACK in the days but they would have buried them as well and know one would have made a big deal out of it 🌹. One people EXPIRE now a days people still are asking how much money are you willing to give for do something that maybe so simple and at NO cost to you. I told my children if or when my time comes if I'm at home go out back and dig a hole 6ft. and throw me in and if I'm found anywhere else (EXPERIENCE) leaving it (BODY) and don't worry I'm not there I am else where let the state decide what they want to do with the remains at there (EXPENSE) they can't do NO more to me than what has been done 👍. I thank and appreciate you for sharing comment. Thank you so much 😌🌹. FREE WILL: CHOICES, CHOICES IN THE VALLEY OF DECISIONS.
@nadezhdawall-rossi2864
@nadezhdawall-rossi2864 2 жыл бұрын
Your father sounds like a compassionate, loving human being.
@samiam9059
@samiam9059 2 жыл бұрын
@@nadezhdawall-rossi2864 he was but what an artist he was. My mother was funny as she said once he got into a few fights in his day. She was a blue eyed blonde and men would try.......
@thisisme3238
@thisisme3238 2 жыл бұрын
@Sam I Am I bet you are totally right too.
@ingrid1797
@ingrid1797 2 жыл бұрын
My father made caskets for so many deceased pets, the poor man I imagine everytime we adopted something in the back of his mind he probably thought oh boy one day we'll dealing another one. DAD buried them all in boxes that he made, everything from rats, cats and dogs. I miss him EVERY DAY.....❤
@chrisdooley6468
@chrisdooley6468 2 жыл бұрын
I’m currently on hospice and when I looked at options for funerals I was stunned. Even a simple funeral was over $5k. I finally said forget this nonsense and got the basic cremation package which includes a basic urn and pickup from the facility and flowers to accompany the free shipping off the urn which cost a very reasonable $795. Sold !!
@toby-jeanne_almy
@toby-jeanne_almy 2 жыл бұрын
God bless you on your journey friend! May your days be filled with good memories and laughter. Insightful comment.
@shezcrafty4416
@shezcrafty4416 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't believe how much they want for urns. I had my mom cremated, and wanted to get a nice wooden box for her. The funeral home wanted 400 bucks for a little wooden box. I looked online, and found the same exact box from a pet crematory for 45 dollars. Same size, same look for a fraction of the cost.
@chuckrobinson599
@chuckrobinson599 2 жыл бұрын
God bless you Chris, I hope you have an outstanding quality of life, right up to the end.
@nikkibayo
@nikkibayo 2 жыл бұрын
Chris, sending a prayer your way.
@bsoz9759
@bsoz9759 2 жыл бұрын
@@shezcrafty4416 Maybe I'll go that way for myself. I was going to make my own box now to be used in the future, allowing for weight gain!! :)
@karlajordan7082
@karlajordan7082 2 жыл бұрын
my brother had passed In February, and he worked for a cabinet shop for 30 years in Texas, we asked the owner if he could build the casket to lay my brother to rest...it was absolutely beautiful...my brother loved his job And the people he worked for! it was such an honourable piece!
@gotohellenwaite6371
@gotohellenwaite6371 2 жыл бұрын
My Granny always said family should take care of its own from the cradle to the grave. I prepared both parents before their family and friends saw them I buried my mom myself and my sons who were adults when we lost Dad buried him. I taught my boys the same saying so when it’s my time they know what to do. My youngest recently buried his father who passed of cancer. Most cemeteries and funeral homes will allow families to do this if asked. They will hang out or be close by if you need assistance. Blessings to you and yours for taking care of your brother.
@lisatoronto7265
@lisatoronto7265 2 жыл бұрын
That really lovely Karla speaks volumes for the man your brother was, he left a legacy of love and respect. God bless your family and his friends and co workers. ❤🌷🌷
@bsoz9759
@bsoz9759 2 жыл бұрын
That's just beautiful.
@philopinoladyboy1576
@philopinoladyboy1576 2 жыл бұрын
Any pictures of the beautiful wood work?
@karlajordan7082
@karlajordan7082 2 жыл бұрын
@@philopinoladyboy1576 I'm not sure how to send...
@mytwocents848
@mytwocents848 2 жыл бұрын
With the price of the funeral business these days, they probably couldn't afford to have him buried. The mortuary business is big business because they aren't regulated and they always have new customers.
@randallsmerna384
@randallsmerna384 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps but why didn't they just bury him then?
@alwaystrustinthelordone
@alwaystrustinthelordone 2 жыл бұрын
Nor do they care if you're poor. Not their problem 😖
@addiegraves3
@addiegraves3 2 жыл бұрын
My first thought too was this was expense related, I agree with your comment, Some funeral homes are corporate owned too, It doesn't nor should be so expensive. I encourage everyone to watch Caitlin Doughty's YT channel she shares great information about the funeral business, family rights, laws, cost.
@ddsmiles6382
@ddsmiles6382 2 жыл бұрын
I commented similar before reading the comment’s. So sad because it sounds like they cared and tried. So sad. We can’t even be laid to rest properly. I have cancer and our faith demands us to be buried but I know we can’t afford that so I’ll be cremated. I don’t want my loved ones worried about monies to bury me. I tried to see if I could make a payment plan now while I’m alive and it’s not allowed🥺💔
@deniseleaps
@deniseleaps 2 жыл бұрын
The main reason I will chose cremation.
@EmilyA..
@EmilyA.. 2 жыл бұрын
I’m actually surprised this doesn’t happen more often
@ddsmiles6382
@ddsmiles6382 2 жыл бұрын
Dumped or placed there?? It sounds like they cared enough to try which makes a big difference IMO. Sad funerals are so expensive and so many can’t afford to bury there loved ones. My prayers for whomever this is and the family.
@ryuukakhadijah7766
@ryuukakhadijah7766 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed 😢
@thisisme3238
@thisisme3238 2 жыл бұрын
🙏✝️
@f0xyrules332
@f0xyrules332 2 жыл бұрын
Omg I said the same thing then read ur comment
@heartstrings7814
@heartstrings7814 2 жыл бұрын
Somebody didn't have life insurance or the money for a funeral but obviously cared enough for the man to make him a coffin and place him where he would be found. I don't think this was malicious.
@Deborah-ws7st
@Deborah-ws7st Жыл бұрын
A friend of our grandfather passed away thinking his insurance was gonna pay for his funeral 20.000 and they didn't pay the family nothing so who can you trust these days very sad
@largeautomobile
@largeautomobile 2 жыл бұрын
People used to do this a lot in an abandoned cemetery in my area before it got cleaned up. But rather than dumping they would actually dig their own plot. Happens when low-income families can't afford a proper burial or cremation.
@PuffKitty
@PuffKitty 2 жыл бұрын
In a way, I wish the people could have kept doing that.
@shondasmith5470
@shondasmith5470 2 жыл бұрын
5'10 Weight over 300 Pounds? Most definitely had to be more than one person placing him there. RIP
@10191927
@10191927 2 жыл бұрын
That’s really sad, multiple people had to have lifted him into the casket pushing 350lbs, I’m curious what the story and circumstances are surrounding this.
@jenievans8531
@jenievans8531 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@jenniferh.7219
@jenniferh.7219 2 жыл бұрын
He was loaded on a roller and wheeled in. I'm 15 years old and I could wheel him in
@LLStark
@LLStark 2 жыл бұрын
A cult
@kathydbrumfieldb8753
@kathydbrumfieldb8753 2 жыл бұрын
God bless this family. They were trying to do the only thing they could. Money rules this world. This is the saddest thing. That poor man still hasn't been buried. I hope that Cemetery will do the right thing and donate a plot for this loved man, but we all know they won't $$$!! 😪
@paulatruett6577
@paulatruett6577 2 жыл бұрын
I just buried my dad in December and it was over 10,000 dollars they may not have been able to afford it
@pinkiesvlogs2
@pinkiesvlogs2 2 жыл бұрын
Same. My husband was a veteran. He passed in January n I'm still paying off a very minimal service n memorial...10 grand. Ohhhh and don't think your veteran will be buried by the government. The average they pay is 2 to 7 hundred.
@mikemarley2389
@mikemarley2389 2 жыл бұрын
That is criminal.
@kookycoolauntkaryn5884
@kookycoolauntkaryn5884 2 жыл бұрын
I buried my father and his mother (my grandmother) last year due to covid ... it was the hardest thing... hugs...
@mypeeps333
@mypeeps333 2 жыл бұрын
You got Ripped off !
@tazf18
@tazf18 2 жыл бұрын
In Toronto... your should expect that just the hole you will be put in starts at 16,000.00... nevermind the coffin and the service.
@Kricket2020
@Kricket2020 2 жыл бұрын
It shouldn’t cost a fortune to die. I don’t blame these people at all. They did the best they could.
@TT-rz5td
@TT-rz5td 2 жыл бұрын
It's bad enough it costs a fortune to live.
@cristenk7230
@cristenk7230 2 жыл бұрын
God bless the grieving family. They did what they had to do. Everyone wants their hand in the pockets of ppl after losing a loved one. Shouldn't cost so much money to bury on proper land, clearly money was the issue. And it wasn't "dumped" stop smearing ppls intentions
@wayneduncan36
@wayneduncan36 2 жыл бұрын
It’s hard but it’s fair
@thisisme3238
@thisisme3238 2 жыл бұрын
@Cristen K I agree, they did the best they could for that family member.
@np614
@np614 2 жыл бұрын
I feel so bad for this man’s grieving loved ones; someone tried to lay him to rest with dignity.
@free7062
@free7062 2 жыл бұрын
Dumped, isn't a word i would have used, this is someone's loved one who couldn't afford a funeral 🌻
@danniemikeey579
@danniemikeey579 2 жыл бұрын
I don't blame them. Blame the greedy business people who can't even give payment plans to people that are heartbroken
@dashabrown354
@dashabrown354 2 жыл бұрын
Amen
@gandalflotr2898
@gandalflotr2898 2 жыл бұрын
This why I lost my faith in capitalism
@gandalflotr2898
@gandalflotr2898 2 жыл бұрын
@@hycoperosity5843 no wonder why people beginning to identify themselves as an animals
@chuckrobinson599
@chuckrobinson599 2 жыл бұрын
That's because people don't pay the bill. Funeral directors have to earn a living too. That's incidentaly part of why I quit contracting, people wouldn't pay you.
@danniemikeey579
@danniemikeey579 2 жыл бұрын
@@chuckrobinson599 that's true. Yalls don't have insurance though?. Tbh I don't even know how it works
@sarahm5438
@sarahm5438 2 жыл бұрын
By the sounds of the body’s weight and size, I think everybody that needed to know he’s passed already knows! I hope if they identify who he is, that the community around him come together and help this family financially to give him the send off ‘society’ thinks he deserves. This could not have been easy on the family but going to the lengths of making a coffin shows great care and compassion for the dead
@devilsemissary4650
@devilsemissary4650 2 жыл бұрын
sad when people can't afford to properly bury a loved one
@kylieshaye6562
@kylieshaye6562 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of people don't have $7,000-10,000 to lay their loved one to rest. Its messed up.
@Landis_Grant
@Landis_Grant Жыл бұрын
My father who never spent time raising his four children requested that his remaining $7,000 in his bank account all be spent on a metal casket and other funeral costs.
@gloriald444
@gloriald444 2 жыл бұрын
Well now I know what I'm going to do with my mother-in-law ashes. Yeah people it's too expensive to bury loved ones.. I'm truly happy for the ones that saved money for burial. 🕊
@maandren
@maandren 2 жыл бұрын
LOL 😂
@kristingallo2158
@kristingallo2158 2 жыл бұрын
In my family everyone just pitches in for funerals.
@thepickledfish3631
@thepickledfish3631 2 жыл бұрын
The difference between a graveyard and a cemetery is that a graveyard is on hollowed ground ( associated with a church) and a cemetery is owned land, just in case anyone didn't know. My God bless his soul 🙏.
@TT-rz5td
@TT-rz5td 2 жыл бұрын
I did not know. Thank you!
@witzelasper2821
@witzelasper2821 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who years ago mowed cemeteries and graveyards..yes I did know this ..the word cemetery comes from the Greek word koimeterion meaning dormitory or resting place....most graveyards and cemeteries I know have a little area set aside somewhere on the grounds for a "potter's field" ...a place where the unclaimed the poor the criminals the strangers and so on are buried for free out of respect ..most have no stones to mark them ..they become a number on a map....a number is better than disappearing in to oblivion with no acknowledgement at all.
@riseup8891
@riseup8891 2 жыл бұрын
To take the time to carry them deep inside right. They must of cared deeply. I pray for the family and if found they will not be charged a penny. Seems like the gentleman is at peace.
@lynnleigha580
@lynnleigha580 2 жыл бұрын
My great great uncle actually planted a tree when he was young and 60 years later, he cut down that tree and made his own coffin, true facts
@Nice-qi5cf
@Nice-qi5cf 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful ❤️
@judyingram4846
@judyingram4846 2 жыл бұрын
So precious.🙏🙏🙏
@vixxenfox2682
@vixxenfox2682 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe the person who put him there, didn't have the money for a funeral and to be buried.
@precisionbrown6829
@precisionbrown6829 2 жыл бұрын
It’s obvious that someone cared enough to give him some respect. God bless who did the best they could do 💔
@jillbecker8651
@jillbecker8651 2 жыл бұрын
This probably was done because people can’t afford funerals these days…
@helterskelter4every1
@helterskelter4every1 2 жыл бұрын
What I took away from that was “we need to find the family so we can figure out who to charge for the plot space to bury this guy in, cause ain’t nothin in life for free no matter how poor you are”. Anyone else hear what I heard?
@enlightenedinterstellarbei8020
@enlightenedinterstellarbei8020 2 жыл бұрын
Loud and clear!!!
@roseelley4470
@roseelley4470 2 жыл бұрын
Agree. Sounds like the family did the best they could. Funerals are so expensive. And burial is so expensive. Perhaps they just could not afford it and did not know what else to do. RIP.
@thisisme3238
@thisisme3238 2 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I thought too...they did the best they could with what they had..and atleast he had a casket and was brought to a graveyard.
@TangoSierra888
@TangoSierra888 2 жыл бұрын
I hate how they keep saying he was “dumped”. He was obviously cared for, but living in a rural area, family probably didn’t have $10K+ to shell out to a funeral home. Sad.
@cathymurray
@cathymurray 2 жыл бұрын
A large casket costs a lot more$$ than a regular size. I believe no life insurance n family couldnt afford..but tried their best. Still a crime. But did care.
@nadezhdawall-rossi2864
@nadezhdawall-rossi2864 2 жыл бұрын
What would you have had his family do?
@lindamoser6317
@lindamoser6317 2 жыл бұрын
Funeral costs r so high and even cremation is expensive to some. Its no wonder this happened. There r no resources to help some families when they can't afford funerals. I find it sad and no doubt the man was loved. Bless him and his family. RIP.
@misty4757
@misty4757 2 жыл бұрын
There is no way one person was able to get a handmade coffin with a 350lb man inside of it to the cemetery! I weight like 175 and my husband who is a heafty man, he's not skinny but he's also not 350lbs he can barley keep me lifted off the ground for more than a couple mins at a time. This had to be more than 2 people moving it atleast. Insane!!
@deliajones9541
@deliajones9541 2 жыл бұрын
It would take at least 4 people , the weight of the box also has to be considered, over 400 pounds, maybe take 5 or 6 to lift it.
@misty4757
@misty4757 2 жыл бұрын
@@deliajones9541 that's what I was thinking 🤔 definitely more than 2! Probably close to 4! I totally agree with you. This is just so crazy.
@howardweber3986
@howardweber3986 2 жыл бұрын
You’re all missing the point! What difference does it make regarding the number of persons needed to lift this heavy coffin! Seriously? A larger man/woman requires a larger coffin which does cost more money to obtain. It’s heartbreaking that this was the only way to obtain a cemetery “buriel” due to the expense involved. RIP sir and condolences to the family.
@anniacopeland8321
@anniacopeland8321 2 жыл бұрын
Your husband needs to hit the gym sheesh 🙄 😂
@lindgg5022
@lindgg5022 2 жыл бұрын
Or one person and a large furniture dolly.
@terintiaflavius3349
@terintiaflavius3349 2 жыл бұрын
Funeral cost are outrageous.
@CIslas-im1um
@CIslas-im1um 2 жыл бұрын
We have a death insurance and when needed, they told us it only covered the plot. Now we're having to do an emergency cremation for $2k. Using the plot means another $20k to cover fees and casket. I know it is like going to the doctor, but those businesses are definitely over charging!
@lindaarchinal9008
@lindaarchinal9008 2 жыл бұрын
Hey! It’s a one time deal!
@merrywhiterose
@merrywhiterose 2 жыл бұрын
When my sister was dying of cancer, she said she wanted to live long enough to pay for her cremation. It was so sad.
@Janeintheok
@Janeintheok 2 жыл бұрын
I'm grateful to my tribe, the Muscogee/Creek Nation. They've helped many native Americans with burial assistance. Dying is expensive.
@zerotodona1495
@zerotodona1495 2 жыл бұрын
All I hear is they over charge the dead too from your mouth.
@AB-wk6sm
@AB-wk6sm 2 жыл бұрын
May he RIP…🙏🏿… my Brother just passed last month and the cemetery alone was 7k (cheapest area of the cemetery btw). Prices are ridiculous.
@twalatka
@twalatka 2 жыл бұрын
The cost of burials is beyond the ability to pay by many.
@tinamckenna7514
@tinamckenna7514 2 жыл бұрын
"Healed surgery scar on his back." Mystery solved on the cause of death. I've had 5 lower back surgeries and I swear, there is not a day that goes by when I either want to be gone or wonder if I already am.
@living4himga
@living4himga 2 жыл бұрын
God still has a purpose for you, Tina. Hang in there.
@cynthiaparris7549
@cynthiaparris7549 2 жыл бұрын
Bless you. I've had one back surgery, had to have screws put in. I pray I never have to have another one. I can't imagine how you feel. Please know I'll be praying for you. I hope your pain goes away. I'm so sorry. ❤
@bluejeans1773
@bluejeans1773 2 жыл бұрын
I had One spine surgery and it still painful
@tinamckenna7514
@tinamckenna7514 2 жыл бұрын
@@bluejeans1773 🥺😔 BIG, gentle hug to you. Be good to yourself.
@tinamckenna7514
@tinamckenna7514 2 жыл бұрын
@@living4himga Aww, thank you. And, yes, He does and is quite clear of that intention. I am actually curious to see how things turn out.
@ElizabethRussell144
@ElizabethRussell144 2 жыл бұрын
Outrageous that it costs thousands of dollars just to bury someone in the ground! Shame on this society!
@cwhyharris7473
@cwhyharris7473 2 жыл бұрын
Yes that's one of my worries. I took out a $2,000 life insurance policy for pay like $20 a month to hopefully take care of The Cremation but they're capitalizing on that making it more expensive so that may not even take care of it. After I leave I don't care what happens to my body we're not our bodies that's just decaying flesh the spirit gone. And your people aren't at the cemetery they have ascended to Nirvana or heaven, whatever you want to call it. God bless these people they're going to hunt them down until they find them and then they're going to slap them with fines and then they're going to slap them with bills that they can't afford for burial oh, because dying is big business in America big money. No dignity just dollars.
@ElizabethRussell144
@ElizabethRussell144 2 жыл бұрын
@@cwhyharris7473 So heartbreaking 💔
@redfootwalking
@redfootwalking 2 жыл бұрын
I know this, the family must have done their best and just did not have the money to do any different. People are struggling day to day, and if you have no money to live, you certainly do not have money laying around to bury someone. It's way too expensive to have a funeral.
@Emsie76
@Emsie76 2 жыл бұрын
Oh so sad. Everyone deserves a to be laid to rest. Money shouldn’t come into it. RIP Sir. (Someone cared for sure)
@hauntedbearchild
@hauntedbearchild 2 жыл бұрын
I think this is sad. The survivors had no money and did the best they could. Funerals are very expensive.
@laurie4275
@laurie4275 2 жыл бұрын
My elderly parents are constantly saying to us: "Just bury me in a cardboard box in the back yard! Final expenses are ridiculous highway robbery!" And they mean it.
@RagingRapunzel
@RagingRapunzel 2 жыл бұрын
Guaranteed they charge and fine the family that's already so broke they can't afford a funeral for their loved one.
@rjchavers9267
@rjchavers9267 2 жыл бұрын
This is sad and doesn't seem malicious. I'm not big on socializing many things in America but can't we bury our loved ones and at least cut back on regulations for more affordable options? It seems like someone actually cared about this person to build the coffin/casket and place him in the cemetery. It's not like they thought he wouldn't be found as they left him. Condolences to his loved ones.
@felicitycarter8120
@felicitycarter8120 2 жыл бұрын
This is what happens when you make it so expensive to give a person a decent funeral. This world is for the rich, even when your dead. Rest In Peace Sir.
@itstime3976
@itstime3976 2 жыл бұрын
Amen
@carlabraenne3469
@carlabraenne3469 2 жыл бұрын
Probably somebody who couldn't afford to bury their loved one when they passed. So sad.
@monstermcboo7282
@monstermcboo7282 2 жыл бұрын
Shameful that funeral costs push families to do this kind of thing.
@shellyrae777
@shellyrae777 2 жыл бұрын
My Mom had a direct cremation it was 1,500$ this is the lowest cost of a Creamation that you can get. A burial is 3-4x this even more. If you don’t want cremation and can’t afford burial then what?
@zerotodona1495
@zerotodona1495 2 жыл бұрын
They force you to burn. I would try by ocean or lake myself. Feed the animals
@bsoz9759
@bsoz9759 2 жыл бұрын
This is similar to my plan. I'm going to make my own box for my cremated remains. Then I plan on sending my immediate family/spouses/grandchildren on a lovely vacation to a beautiful island on my dime. I have chosen the island and my kids know about my plan. At some time during the vacation everyone gathers on the beach, says whatever they want and scatters my ashes into the sea. I get what I want, they get a free vacation to a beautiful place and hopefully everyone is happy.
@DonnaLueders
@DonnaLueders 2 жыл бұрын
Funeral parlors everywhere need to come to this comment section. Even if you are cremated, the cost of a viewing at a funeral home is outrageous! when I die, just cremate me and nothing else just get on with your life. RIP to this man.
@skullgarden2417
@skullgarden2417 2 жыл бұрын
Trust me, funeral costs and burial costs are insane. When my mother died, I had just turned 18 and had no other family to help bury her. Her grave still doesn't have a proper tombstone being I had to pay out of pocket and I'm still trying to save to get her one...
@tomlaskowski456
@tomlaskowski456 2 жыл бұрын
This is the best people can afford when social security pays a death benefit of $255!
@BluetheRaccoon
@BluetheRaccoon 2 жыл бұрын
As a former funeral industry worker, I highly recommend "Ask A Mortician"'s video on obesity and its impact on final expenses and the funeral industry as a whole. A 350-lb person would require twice the plot size and casket, and while cremation is a cheaper option for most, it's a much more complicated and therefore more expensive option than for those half his size. I wonder if this man died from COVID at home? If they identify him, will his family be charged? Does Oregon have a pauper's cemetery? Edited to add: Oregon has recently expanded it's natural burial laws, which may make for more affordable for everyone while also being less environmentally damaging.
@eledatowle8767
@eledatowle8767 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad someone mentioned Ask A Mortician. An excellent channel run by a compassionate and respected woman. Cheers to Caitlin.
@McCookieParty
@McCookieParty 2 жыл бұрын
that's such a sad occurrence. I think it had to be a family that couldn't afford services and tried their own method.
@cynutube11
@cynutube11 2 жыл бұрын
People cant afford to bury their loved ones.
@maryannehui
@maryannehui 2 жыл бұрын
Depending on where you live and where you want to be buried, the costs of buying a grave and the cemetery's fee to open/close said grave, is as much as the funeral home's fees.
@youngnurse9994
@youngnurse9994 2 жыл бұрын
Who ever did it , at least they did the best they could and didn't leave the remains dumped in a lot somewhere! They did the best they could and for that they get my respect 👏. R.I.P. Sir 🛐
@anntrope491
@anntrope491 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe this...maybe that....wish we knew the whole story...but we might not ever get the rest of it...R.I.P. DUDE...someone did the best they could for you...my guess...
@t181920c
@t181920c 2 жыл бұрын
What made you choose the word "dumped"?
@enlightenedinterstellarbei8020
@enlightenedinterstellarbei8020 2 жыл бұрын
Limited vocabulary. They also said the graveyard had an “eerie mysteriousness”.
@ppinmouth2649
@ppinmouth2649 2 жыл бұрын
What a mystery? What an enigma. Dead man in a box in a dead park... Had be 2 ppl. The man was 350
@ryznglascastle1995
@ryznglascastle1995 2 жыл бұрын
Right? 350 lbs is a lot of weight to carry around a cemetery at night. He either walked there or there are at least a half dozen people that know what happened.
@janeysiegrist5061
@janeysiegrist5061 2 жыл бұрын
Dead Park🤣
@robinhood8526
@robinhood8526 2 жыл бұрын
Dumped? I'd say alot of careful work went into this.
@incognitocreek1633
@incognitocreek1633 2 жыл бұрын
350 pounds- 5 foot 10 plus the weight of the wood ? It would have taken a fork lift or ar least several people to accomplish moving the deceased.This sounds like a humain thought out premeditated burial plan. May the deceased RIP.
@billl1127
@billl1127 5 ай бұрын
Moving a 350 lb man plus the weight of the casket must have been quite an ordeal requiring at least 3 or 4 people
@WhiteWolfBlackStar
@WhiteWolfBlackStar 2 жыл бұрын
The man got a burial by people who loved him enough to do by whatever means they could, the very best they could do. Maybe they couldn't afford a burial. I'm sure in years past, this isn't the first private ceremony given to a loved one, just between the family, the deceased, the Land, and God. It may be out of the ordinary, I salute this family. Thank you for doing the best you could. I wish you peace and God's blessings. ✨🕊✨
@nancyfahey7518
@nancyfahey7518 2 жыл бұрын
Dumped is a thoughtless word. Apparently you're taking this as a joke.
@notyourgrammascrafts
@notyourgrammascrafts 2 жыл бұрын
I wish you would show pictures of it because I might actually know where that came from not the body but the coffin before my grandfather passed away he built one and it was in my grandparents garage and had been for years then it's missing
@laura121684
@laura121684 2 жыл бұрын
It was a casket, not a coffin.
@susanh.352
@susanh.352 2 жыл бұрын
If this was foul play, why would a suspect take a body to a cemetary? That makes no sense. It's probably a family member who didn't have the money to bury their loved one with a proper funeral.
@neutthehuman9029
@neutthehuman9029 2 жыл бұрын
People are sick of being financially squeezed for EVERYTHING in Life, so F’em all in death. 🤷🏽‍♂️. Is anything NOT a greedy business in America?🇺🇸
@Chgo1221
@Chgo1221 2 жыл бұрын
That’s really sad at least he wasn’t dumped by garbage.🙏🏽🌹🥺
@maren807
@maren807 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like an episode of Grimm. Creepy.
@niecolemiddleton6224
@niecolemiddleton6224 2 жыл бұрын
Funerals cost so much the life insurance company's be like ummm can we make payment arrangements‼️
@lmonnette4037
@lmonnette4037 2 жыл бұрын
Years ago families made simple pine boxes as coffins. Now funerals are elaborate with unjustified high cost coffins and many charges for the services! If this family had no money to pay for a funeral they did what they could.
@Terramater1954
@Terramater1954 2 жыл бұрын
The real crime is the high cost of funeral expenses. They should arrest mortuaries who charge out of this earth prices.
@myidentityisinjesus8880
@myidentityisinjesus8880 2 жыл бұрын
Well, the financial cost to bury someone is ridiculously high and could crush someone financially. Especially now when old Joe raised the price on everything to the point that many can't afford gas or food.
@barbiebeeks8203
@barbiebeeks8203 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the family couldn't afford the expense
@modestinemungo4661
@modestinemungo4661 2 жыл бұрын
Lawd, Folk didn't kill and have a casket ready for him too did they, then had the nerve to take him to the cemetery too. Dang, They played the part of the funeral home and the cemetery almost, bc, they didn't dig 6ft and put him in it. Smh, Lawd have mercy🥺
@CanYouRememberWhen
@CanYouRememberWhen 2 жыл бұрын
What makes you think he was "dumped" there? Was the casket turned over, lid ajar?
@kgfairgo5559
@kgfairgo5559 2 жыл бұрын
If you can't figure out why this was done then you have never been poor and had to pay for a funeral
@nadezhdawall-rossi2864
@nadezhdawall-rossi2864 2 жыл бұрын
Amen!
@kaydogcreations
@kaydogcreations 2 жыл бұрын
I wish they had a place people could bury their loved ones without having to break the bank. So sad.
@zoiefinnian3540
@zoiefinnian3540 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. If you don’t have the funds to bury or cremate your silly self, don’t die. Be a self sufficient Adult.
@taylorbug9
@taylorbug9 2 жыл бұрын
This is gonna be a doozy.
@christophermichael.w.7577
@christophermichael.w.7577 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to know what actually took place.
@silentnight9655
@silentnight9655 2 жыл бұрын
Funerals actually cost the earth. He clearly made his own coffin, took himself off of his deathbed, went down to the cemetery, climbed in and went to sleep. Mystery solved.
@YaronaYah
@YaronaYah 2 жыл бұрын
Love it.
@cloudyxsxies583
@cloudyxsxies583 2 жыл бұрын
It's so sad that his loved ones couldn't afford to give him a better funeral. Funeral services should be free, or with assisted payment for people struggling. A lot of people struggling might not be able to afford one. Everyone deserves a proper rest and burial. Also to the comments saying "just donate it to science" not everyone's religion allows that, and some people or families don't want that to happen.
@deerhoda7574
@deerhoda7574 2 жыл бұрын
Possibly no family and or money for a funeral and depending on the kindness of the county. I must say the headstones and markers seen in this video are most unique. I hope you can help lay this man to rest.
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