Boiled Linseed Oil Vs 100% Pure Tung Oil After 5 Years

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Melody's Dad

Melody's Dad

Күн бұрын

On paper, Tung oil seems to be the obvious choice over linseed oil. Just the idea that linseed oil has a more amber hue alone, detracts people like me from wanting to use it. In this video I compare the look of each oil on the same wood project, clipboards made from some of my favorite hardwoods, and compare the two finished clipboards visually after they are cured and 5 years after use.
A few notes about the video:
I do not provide thorough application instructions in this video. If that is what you are after please check out my "How to apply 100% Pure Tung Oil The Right Way Video." ( • How to Apply Pure Tung... )
While I did not show it in the video, I applied three coats of Pure Tung Oil. The first coat I diluted 1:1 with mineral spirits. The second coat was 2 parts Tung oil to 1 part mineral spirits. And the third coat was Pure Tung Oil undiluted.
I only applied one coat of Boiled Linseed Oil which may be the reason why it didn't live up to the amber hue hype. Three coats are recommended for the oil I used. I did it differently and the results weren't earth shattering. You may have different results - you are going to have to determine your own path, but I believe in you.
Music by Chris Sessions: "They Dreamed of Freedom", and "Cry of the Wildflower." Gratefully used with permission from the musician. Check him out on your favorite music listening platforms. ( / @chrissessions6108 )

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@VanCamelCat
@VanCamelCat 6 ай бұрын
Mister, your beautiful words have touched my heart. Thank you for that. (except for the masks during the pandemic thing. I have no idea which side of that debate you were on. Though, I also don't care. You are definitely - not boring 🙂). Thanks for the woodworking too 😉 P.S. I hope things improve for me too, and that things do indeed get better. Damn that metaphorical scratch 🤨
@Melodysdadvideos
@Melodysdadvideos 5 ай бұрын
If I could give you a thousand likes I would.
@VanCamelCat
@VanCamelCat 5 ай бұрын
@@Melodysdadvideos Honestly? That is exactly what I need right now. A thousand positive thoughts aimed towards me to help my days get better. I meant it fully though. Those words were art ♥
@chrissessions6108
@chrissessions6108 Жыл бұрын
"The world is as beautiful as you let it be." I appreciated the uplifting philosophical commentary!
@Melodysdadvideos
@Melodysdadvideos Жыл бұрын
I am glad you can appreciate it! For me, I have found it to be accurate to a T. Thank you for letting me use your sweet tunes!
@DanClarkNewYork
@DanClarkNewYork Жыл бұрын
I loved this: "Wood finishes are like people. We should want people to succeed, not fail."
@donrad
@donrad Жыл бұрын
I have been using pure tung and linseed oil for over 50 years. The old cans of linseed used to have instructions for applying the finish. First you apply the un-thinned oil and keep applying as the oil soaks into the wood, keeping the surface wet for about 15 minutes. Then wipe the surface dry and let it sit for about an hour. Finally, repeat the above process, but also sand the wood with fine sandpaper while the oil is wet. Let it dry 24 hours before use. Apply wax now and then for added protection and shine. This finish, in my opinion, is best used for furniture that does not receive much wear and tear. Like a dresser in a bedroom. Alcoholic beverages can leave circle stains. Desktops will not do well unless sanded down and refinished yearly. Skin oil and dirt will mix with the tung and linseed oil finish and leave dark stains. These oils are excellent for cutting boards because they are non-toxic food safe. Re-apply when the surface looks dull. Some people like the look of a table-top that shows stains, marks, and patina from the years of use by a family. Only an oil finish lends itself to this natural beauty. DO NOT LEAVE OILY RAGS IN A PILE BECAUSE THEY CAN AND WILL SELF-COMBUST AND START FIRES.
@jamesbarros950
@jamesbarros950 5 ай бұрын
Came for the finishes, stayed for the poetry and life advice.
@saityavuz76
@saityavuz76 11 ай бұрын
I really liked the way you ended things. Thank you for sharing!
@taylorsessions4143
@taylorsessions4143 Жыл бұрын
This is really neat to see, thank you for sharing! I followed the instructions from your video +/-5 years ago on a dresser that i was refinishing. The dresser later became the kid's main dresser and a large fish tank placed on top. There are layers of hard water over the finish now, but that pine has lasted years of abuse and I believe it would have at least warped (if not rotted) if it weren't for the process you taught of applying the tung oil. I also appreciate the application of the principle demonstrated 😁 wood finishing is not a one-size-fits-all scenario. Neither are people. That's thought provoking. Well said.
@Melodysdadvideos
@Melodysdadvideos Жыл бұрын
That's awesome! I am glad you got to try it out and it worked for you. That really was the goal of that video. There are so many comments on the other video asking for advice on if Tung Oil is what "I should use for this?" type questions. The simple answer is: "I don't know. What do you think?" It seems we live in a world where few seam to realize that nobody knows everything about anything.
@rmar127
@rmar127 7 ай бұрын
That curly maple on the tung oil board looks amazing.
@Melodysdadvideos
@Melodysdadvideos 5 ай бұрын
I know, right? I love it. I wouldn't recommend using curly maple for splines though. Or at least thin splines.
@oxylepy2
@oxylepy2 11 ай бұрын
The one I have, and likely will always continue, to want to see is amber melted into an oil. I've always wondered how it would look, if it would fill grain, etc. Such a cool concept
@halleyorion
@halleyorion 10 ай бұрын
I have done similar experiments with boiled linseed oil and pure tung oil (although only over a couple months, not five years!) and I also have not found them that different. I have not yet noticed any differences in the way that they color the wood. The most obvious tell, to me, is that tung oil seems to leave a slightly more shiny finish that sits on top of the wood, whereas linseed oil completely soaks in and seems to be more matte (though they are both pretty matte). I prefer the smell of linseed oil, while I like the food-safe qualities of tung oil, so I use them both in different projects even though they are extremely similar - equally gorgeous!
@TroyD-vo1bz
@TroyD-vo1bz 2 ай бұрын
A favorite finish of mine that came from Sam Maloof, is One part boiled linseed oil one part paint thinner and then one part either spar varnish or urethane depending on how durable you want things. Typically I build up about three coats or so and then finish off with some beeswax. It's a very beautiful, inviting finish and it tends to yellow over time and develops a beautiful patina. Used it on several of my own rocking chairs, as well as some other projects. I do agree that boiled linseed oil tends to yellow over time, but that's also part of the attraction for me. For a very quick finish I like to use watco oil, followed by a coat of Matt Polycrylic finish. The Matt Vanish hides a world of sins, and provides for a greater degree of protection than just oil. And I totally agree you need to ask yourself what it is you're finishing and what kind of use will it receive. I still really love an oil finish as there's a definite "look" from something that penetrates into the wood as opposed to sits on top of it. That's why I like the combination of Watco and the polycrylic . Just my own $0.02. from my 53 years as a professional woodworker.
@daw162
@daw162 11 ай бұрын
The linseed oil isnt boiled. Its chemically treated to try to imitate what boiling would do.
@Melodysdadvideos
@Melodysdadvideos 5 ай бұрын
Yep, product labels are deceiving. Like “natural flavors” in food, is just chemicals that taste good.
@bobkin611
@bobkin611 3 күн бұрын
Thanks a million for this. Also wise words my man.
@danicoleman8942
@danicoleman8942 Ай бұрын
I love the life lessons on this video.
@kfelix2934
@kfelix2934 Ай бұрын
I've used both, I have some custom tables and a desk made out of strips of mesquite. I rub it down with BLO and it looks good.
@timothyvanderschultzen9640
@timothyvanderschultzen9640 3 ай бұрын
I like the one with the oil on it best.
@Melodysdadvideos
@Melodysdadvideos 3 ай бұрын
I prefer the clipboard personally
@timothyvanderschultzen9640
@timothyvanderschultzen9640 3 ай бұрын
@@Melodysdadvideos Ye.
@Isthisreallol
@Isthisreallol 6 ай бұрын
I was under the impression that linseed oil would yellow over time, i cant see that here
@vesnamilojevic2483
@vesnamilojevic2483 3 ай бұрын
Hi! Please let me know:What kind of product would you put on barrels ? Barrels are going to be inside and use like restaurant tables?
@Melodysdadvideos
@Melodysdadvideos 3 ай бұрын
Depends on the look you are going for and the kind of abuse you want them to withstand.
@johnyoung2705
@johnyoung2705 Ай бұрын
@@Melodysdadvideos Just a guess, the restaurant owner would find it disruptive to business to have to redo these barrels, so longevity would be prime. The main wear and tear will be people scuffing boot and shoe soles against the barrel sides. Nuances of colour and reflectivity won't matter since nobody will see them up close unless they are on their hands and knees. (This would be matter a lot more if they were going in a bar.) Maybe something you would use on a wood floor to reduce scuffs, you know, like a floor in a bar? And... can we go to a bar to discuss this? *hic*
@catherinesnow8186
@catherinesnow8186 4 ай бұрын
Under what circumstances would you suggest one select Linseed over Tung oil, for their project? Or… are you concluding that Tung Oil (100%) superior to Linseed when an oil finish is desired?
@Melodysdadvideos
@Melodysdadvideos 3 ай бұрын
I think you might just be as qualified as anyone else to answer your question. I believe in you. :)
@marshall8756
@marshall8756 Ай бұрын
funny question, is it okay to use either of them for guitar finish?
@hangdogit
@hangdogit 5 ай бұрын
I use Tung Oil on lots of wood projects like a Rosewood bowl and any fine hardwood projects. But I’m not sure it is food safe. The best finish I’ve found for cutting boards is called Walrus Oil. Funny name but very practical. Why? Because it is a combination of Beeswax and an oil - mineral oil I think. Both are food safe and either one can be used on cutting boards. BUT by combining the ingredients the result is the best of both worlds - and more durable than either! Mineral Oil alone looks great but dries out and wax alone doesn’t give as much depth and rich appearance. So…Walrus Oil!
@catherinesnow8186
@catherinesnow8186 4 ай бұрын
Could it be a good finish for butcher block countertop?
@hangdogit
@hangdogit 4 ай бұрын
@@catherinesnow8186Yes
@jeffa847
@jeffa847 Ай бұрын
My understanding is that 100% Tung oil should be food safe. I would get one that says that on the bottle though. I've used Barleans Flax oil (raw culinary linseed oil) and I assume it is food safe since you can eat the oil itself and it works really well but be warned that it takes a LONG time to dry if you put it a lot of coats.
@hangdogit
@hangdogit Ай бұрын
@@jeffa847 Yes Tung Oil dries very slowly but it helps to dilute the first coat or two with 50% paint thinner.
@hangdogit
@hangdogit Ай бұрын
@@catherinesnow8186 Yes.
@Astar337
@Astar337 Жыл бұрын
Hi, I really like your video! I have a question for you though… My grandfather made me a wrist wrest for my keyboard out of pine wood, and I am now wondering what oil you would recommend I coat it with? I’d like to make sure it lives a long life. It will be in contact with my skin/hands often. I have never done any woodwork but I would love to get involved one day when I have room for my own work station. Thank you, and subscribed!
@robl6276
@robl6276 4 ай бұрын
Hemp oil. Wipe off excess the following day. Apply with the season's.. respecting the woods natural clock and your Grandfather
@DMichigan
@DMichigan Жыл бұрын
On the second coat of tung oil, you said diluted 1:2, is that 1 oil + 2 spirit, or 1 spirit + 2 oil? Thanks.
@Melodysdadvideos
@Melodysdadvideos Жыл бұрын
The second one. I start out by pouring pure tung oil in a cup and an equal amount of mineral spirits by eye. I put on the first coat, and then for the second coat, I add more pure tung oil to the mix, by eye again, to make it about two parts oil to 1 part mineral spirits. The third coat and any subsequent coats I don't bother diluting it. Someone just spit out their drink reading this, and will tell you their superior way of doing it, just know, they are right. I am just sharing a method I have used to obtain a result I am happy with. I would recommend watching my other video which shows how I apply it in full.
@DMichigan
@DMichigan Жыл бұрын
@@Melodysdadvideos Thank you for your reply!
@shawncook5174
@shawncook5174 7 ай бұрын
May I ask why diluting with mineral spirits?
@bmcculloch97
@bmcculloch97 4 ай бұрын
@@shawncook5174 It thins it out to make wiping on easier and smoother. You can then build up multiple thin layers.
@jeffa847
@jeffa847 Ай бұрын
@@shawncook5174 I have been told to do this on the first coats because it thins it out and lets the oil penetrate deeper.
@aimeem
@aimeem Жыл бұрын
The information on your video was great, but the background music was really loud and distracting...
@autonomousindividual7780
@autonomousindividual7780 5 ай бұрын
Blahhhh!
@greg2337
@greg2337 Жыл бұрын
Tung oil is superior in every way. To the point where I wont use BLO anymore. I love tung oil
@Melodysdadvideos
@Melodysdadvideos Жыл бұрын
What happened to you? Share the story.
@ceeweedsl
@ceeweedsl 11 ай бұрын
Please elaborate.
@greg2337
@greg2337 11 ай бұрын
@@Melodysdadvideos Tung oil prevents mold/mildew unlike BLO, it provides better moisture resistance, doesnt amber as much and when polymerized it's more durable. BLO is cheaper and dries fast bc of the metal driers. Pur tung oil has to be applied thin or it wont dry properly. When applied correctly it will dry with 24-48 hrs. Polymerized tung oil (sutherland welles, or lee valley brand) dries just ads fast as BLO and is even more durable than pure tung oil. Very small amounts of oil are needed to get a proper finish, so even at the higher expense, tung oil's performance is just unmatched.
@jmaegm
@jmaegm 26 күн бұрын
Show us proof of you saying Tung oil is superior like a video after 5 years exposure to weather.
@sirgreggins8824
@sirgreggins8824 25 күн бұрын
@@jmaegm Tung oil is more durable, is more moisture resistant, cant go rancid, and resists mold/mildew better than linseed oil. ESPECIALLY if it's polymerized. Tung oil take longer to dry. Thats it only downside. Again, if its polymerized, it'll dry within 24 hrs, like lindseed oil.
@memofrf
@memofrf 5 ай бұрын
Your'e a good man. Thank you.
@rao.4354
@rao.4354 Жыл бұрын
So basically both are on par with one another even after 5 years ?
@ForPropertyInvestors
@ForPropertyInvestors Жыл бұрын
Difference is tung oil is 4 times more cost to buy.
@Melodysdadvideos
@Melodysdadvideos Жыл бұрын
For my specific use (clipboard), that seems to be the case. I do use these often, I have even stepped on one which you can kind of see a slight crack in the video, but it still has held up just fine.
@dawnfarmer2215
@dawnfarmer2215 7 ай бұрын
Hey, I’m making wooden jewellery and I want to use natural finishes. What would you recommend I use to finish my jewellry to ensure it’s longevity?
@robl6276
@robl6276 4 ай бұрын
100% clean hemp oil. Let it soak in overnight then wipe off gently
@chips4289
@chips4289 9 ай бұрын
I am going to start using 100% tung oil on my new bee hives..its not toxic to my bees and looks nice on the box ..not to mention cheaper than paint
@davidcorum5151
@davidcorum5151 Жыл бұрын
I am building a desktop out of 1.5 inch pine. Would pure tung oil as a finish be durable enough? Other recommendations? My original plan was two coats of Minwax tung oil, and third coat of a mix of Minwax tung oil with a little spar urethane mixed in.
@Melodysdadvideos
@Melodysdadvideos Жыл бұрын
It would depend on your preference of either a flat or glossy look. The desk I am at right now, I finished with Minwax Tung Oil if not a very similar product. It isn't flashy looking, but not quite as flat as a pure tung oil either. If you are dealing with a live edge, I would go for epoxy, and I would fill in all cracks with dyed epoxy. Have seen furniture finished like that? It looks pretty sweet (and is more durable).
@rogeliorojochavez7558
@rogeliorojochavez7558 Жыл бұрын
Thaks
@hawgwobbler
@hawgwobbler Жыл бұрын
Why didn’t you apply three coats of boiled linseed oil also. It would have been more of a fair comparison. As someone who has used boiled linseed oil numerous times I have never just used one coat.
@Melodysdadvideos
@Melodysdadvideos Жыл бұрын
I wanted them to look the same. If I had applied that much boiled linseed oil then it would have been more amber than I wanted. I think if I were to test them on an outdoor project, I definitely would have done the same amount of coats.
@petemitchell6788
@petemitchell6788 6 ай бұрын
Didn’t use it correctly and expected “earth shattering” results 🤯.
@Melodysdadvideos
@Melodysdadvideos 5 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear that, better luck with your next project.
@OldDirtGuy
@OldDirtGuy 6 ай бұрын
The linseed is a touch darker methinks.
@Melodysdadvideos
@Melodysdadvideos 5 ай бұрын
I think you are right. It may not be obvious in this video as I didn't do many coats of it.
@coppulor6500
@coppulor6500 8 ай бұрын
I wanted to watch the whole thing but the music was so annoying. so I just skipped and you did not get well-deserved view time etc. please consider lowering or removing the music. we are here for the info and the great test, not for entertainment. thank you for your effort!
@mydearriley
@mydearriley 21 сағат бұрын
For what it's worth, I also wanted to watch the whole thing... and I did. And I actually enjoyed the music. Well balanced. Nice touch.
@Hamp-knives
@Hamp-knives 7 ай бұрын
Na střenky nožů jsem Lněný olej přestal používat, jelikož jej kožené pouzdro nože ze střenek jakoby vysálo, Tungový olej drží mnohem lépe a tohle nedělá.
@Melodysdadvideos
@Melodysdadvideos 5 ай бұрын
Zdá se, že tungový olej dělá dřevo pevnější, ale tuto teorii jsem sám nezkoušel. Děkujeme za sdílení.
@Melodysdadvideos
@Melodysdadvideos 5 ай бұрын
I am using google translate here, so I apologize if it doesn't make sense. Basically, @Hamp-knives is saying they used to use boiled linseed oil on knife handles but found that the sheath would soak it up. So, they switched to tung oil. I have thought that tung oil does cure harder than BLO, but have not tested my theory.
@vpaihdvpaihd855
@vpaihdvpaihd855 Жыл бұрын
What is the best finish for wood ring?
@greg2337
@greg2337 Жыл бұрын
Polyurethane like Arm R Seal will last a while but a ring will get so beat up that if you wan the finish to remain looking good, polymerized tung oil is a good option
@vpaihdvpaihd855
@vpaihdvpaihd855 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your answer@@greg2337
@Melodysdadvideos
@Melodysdadvideos Жыл бұрын
If it were me...and I am answering this with no skin in your project, I would probably use an epoxy, thinned. Hopefully, I took too long to answer and you already finished it. What did you go with and how did it turn out?
@M.L.Knotts
@M.L.Knotts 9 ай бұрын
Great video... But you didn't have any kind of conclusion....
@AimingWanderously
@AimingWanderously 9 ай бұрын
Man that background music is soooo loud, can hardly hear you talk.
@davidess7414
@davidess7414 9 ай бұрын
THE MUSIC IS TOO LOUD AND ANNOYING...VIDEO COULD HAVE DONE WITHOUT IT!!!
@simonlee5032
@simonlee5032 4 ай бұрын
Get the music off. So amateur.
@mogbaba
@mogbaba 11 ай бұрын
Lower the sound of that ugly background music!
@kaiwenhe5518
@kaiwenhe5518 Жыл бұрын
Tung oil is from China, and the Chinese don't use pure tung oil on the wood finish. Normally you have to heat treat the tung oil first before applying it to wood so that it can dry out fast and form a hard coat.....
@winrawrisyou
@winrawrisyou Жыл бұрын
I remember reading that products labelled as "pure tung oil" have undergone that heat treatment already and that nobody sells pure untreated tung oil, although I have no idea how I'd verify that claim.
@daw162
@daw162 11 ай бұрын
​@@winrawrisyou you can buy unadulterated tung oil from lots of places. The polymerization process isn't done to it.
@user-pk1pc8to3w
@user-pk1pc8to3w 9 ай бұрын
Im wondering what both linseed and tung oil do when exposed to sunshine and rain as my experience is that linseed goes black quit quickly. Iam testing tung oil outside/sunshine and rainas we speak
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