Uh-Oh... 🌀 UZUMAKI Episode 2 REACTION!

[@SHIRO_111]

For just a 4 episode series and 5 years of production Kinda disappointed they couldn't keep the quality of the first episode or even the same Studio for the entire show

[@AlessaParker]

with how many chapters they've mashed together in this episode, the summary of this episode is just "Kirie is having _really_ bad couple of days"

[@bulbasaurkindahawtngl2345]

Yeah this episode was definitely more disappointing. This series would really benefit from just one extra episode. I just wanna see how the adapt The Umbilical Cord cuz that was my favourite chapter

[@AceKimiChan]

Lol same it's so disturbing

[@GKinslayer]

It's in the next episode

[@mrpeanutbutter6817]

These 4 episodes took around 5 years to make, so they had more than a year per episode. I get that that's not necessarily how a production works, but just to put it into perspective, and it was delayed multipled times to achieve the quality it deserved. So what could've happened during production to get this drop in quality as early as episode 2? It seems they even changed animation studios between episode 1 (Fugaku) and episode 2 (Akatsuki). It's not that it's terrible, but if you compare it to how polished the first ep was, the contrast makes it seem drastically worse.

[@midnightfm87]

I definitely noticed a change in animation quality and was wondering why. It was really hard not to notice the 3D in this one.

[@JohnRalvo]

Rumours are going around but it might check out that the original Creative Director/Director for the show was "let-go/fired" (potentially for the time/amount of money for the animation it took?) and it got outsourced to other companies/animators after the 1st episode. Whether that will be true for the rest of the episodes remains to be seen but yeah, honestly major let down and essentially even if the above is the case, there was no reason within that time span even during "covid" to have it be that much of a downgrade.

[@miramaxcinemax5512]

No, it was exactly terrible. Movement half the time is on the level of YT beginner animations. Art style is inconsistent. Characters can't stay on model. This is bad animation by itself. This is hellish in comparison to the first one

[@mrpeanutbutter6817]

@@miramaxcinemax5512 I agree, but if you take say, Ex-Arm, now THAT's unwatchable. I was just trying to make a point, that even though it was pretty bad, it's especially terrible in contrast to the first ep, just as you said.

[@miramaxcinemax5512]

@@mrpeanutbutter6817 yeah, ex-arm is a mythical creature at this point

[@chuckleshelicopterwigwamjo6305]

"Would you love me if I was a worm?" "I would become a worm with you, apparently"

[@martinsantiago7900]

10:12 Top 10 anime battles of all time Uzumaki vs another Uzumaki

[@BlackLotus2077]

Studio changed for this episode and the next. Why? No clue. You would think this being delayed for multiple years after it was announced would stop this from happening but I guess not…

[@austinseaman1913]

I read someone explain it’s because the spiral curse

[@dogboy8679]

@@austinseaman1913bruh

[@Amonimus]

Them mixing in multiple chapters to occur concurrently is still an interesting direction, but because there are only 4 episodes the pacing often comes off as rather silly.

[@diegojimenez5937]

The animation downgraded for a very good reason... ITS THE SPIRAL CURSE...THE ANIMATION IS UNDER THE EFFECT OF THE SPIRAL...IS SPIRALING DOWNWARDS... WERE ALL IN DANGER

[@austinseaman1913]

Low key that’s a pretty good explanation

[@MrDUneven]

They really got Usopp to play a prankster in this episode? The power of spirals? Who the hell they think we are!?

[@Felipe-xq7pc]

A lot of people don't pay attention to this, but if you look at the credits, the director changes from the first to the second episode. I'm not talking about the episode director, but the series director. The storyboard is still by the director of the first episode, but it's directed by someone else at another studio.

[@V_i_vi_an]

This episode was so bad in every aspect, holy shit... It's impressive

[@derpdadouch3654]

So y'all just missed that last little end credit scene?

[@Gamer36046]

To be honest, I've honestly only noticed 2 significant moments where I noticed the animation was really off. The first being when snail guy (honestly can't remember his name off the bat while writing this comment) walking in and his animation just looking really off and gross. His entrance was EXCELLENT in the first episode, I get that first one would have extra detail cause it was the first "shock" panel, but there was almost no sweat, water, slime, or anything. The second one was when the cast were running on the beach, and good god they seem to be expert drifters. Straight up running sideways. Besides that, I honestly didn't really think I noticed a significant downgrade in the animation. Hell the preview for the 3rd episode is TERRIFYING, the particular chapter (no spoilers) it covers is my favorite. The anime isn't perfect, I'm getting neckpain from the pacing, but I'm still really enjoying this adaptation, at least significantly more than the other attempts.

[@Brakthir]

I'm sorry, I don't want to rag on you but...what? The animation downgrade was insanely noticable, from moment 1. The artwork alone took a nose dive, let alone ANY movement.

[@Gamer36046]

@@Brakthir You mean the scenes where characters are just talking? What you want them to spend a mil on 40 seconds of animation of the characters walking through the graveyard? If you rewatch episode 1, the quality is exactly the same for the slower dialogue heavy moments, and they save the budget for the grossout, clossup, body horror, what have you. The pacing isn't a problem that's unique to episode 2 either, this was a problem we all noticed both episodes having.

[@swly5235]

Your comment is the definition of cope

[@Brakthir]

@@Gamer36046 You're crazy if you think this was a matter of expenses and not an insane timecrunch. You need a new set of eyes. Stop coping.

[@doubleasworkshop1692]

​@Gamer36046 you're joking. Look at the scenes of characters JUST talking in epiaode 1 vs episode 2. Kirie in episode 1 tries to imitate Shuichi's father's eyes but fails. Here, they just look at each other. Also if youre gonna cheap out on animation for talking scenes, that's fine. That's common in ALL animation. But at least give me good compositions. The compositions are flat as fuck. You know what, forget the composition. They cant even get proportions of the characters right. You spend like 2 minutes looking at Kirie and the male lover talk with heads twice the size their body. Like bobble heads. I dont care whether you like this episode or not. But to claim that the downgrade isn't obvious is straight ridiculous

[@Ken_Mochi]

I read from my friend's post, that the quality is dropped because the team who worked on episode 1 got kicked out :( and the new team created this episode I was so sad when I heard it :'(

[@TirnenOg281]

So I read Uzumaki on a Junji Ito binge 10 years ago, and just re-read it after the disappointment of Episode 2. The contrast between the original and the adaptation is enormous and covers a number of aspects. Episode 1 had decent animation and creepy moments, but it had minor issues that became major issues in Episode 2: (i) Removing/truncating buildup and plot-relevant/plot-essential exposition. Not mentioning that Dragonfly Lake (or Pond?) is in the middle of town would be fine if the visuals conveyed it well, but they didn't for me (ii) mixing and condensing a bunch of chapters into a very time-constrained episode (iii) altering where and when events in a single storyline take place, changing the vibes and context of each horror encounter. The Azami plotline from Episode 1 suffers from this, because it looks like a bunch of chance meetings until the end, whereas her stalking in the manga is more ominous (iv) Leaving out or pointlessly inserting scares. e.g. The scary panel that ends the "hair-battle" storyline gets cut out, so it seems like the other girl is getting tired and hanging onto some powerlines. The jack-in-the-box "scare" is supposed to happen in a quiet scene, not the immediate aftermath of a horrific car crash - then they make the actual scare a post-credits stinger. Silly. There was definitely a way to make an Uzumaki adaptation work, but the approach taken here was wrong even before you account for whatever budget/production/talent issues led to the severe drop in quality. I am very interested to see what the hell they're going to do to end this anime. The manga ending happens after 600+ pages of a slow descent into madness and suffering - this is a headlong sprint into madness with Berserk 2016-esque animation

[@midnightfm87]

The whole episode I just kept thinking of the Berserk CGI remake, so stiff and unexpressive.

[@TirnenOg281]

@@midnightfm87 Yeah, add a few CLANGs and you'd have a spiritual successor. At least Berserk has anime adaptations that aren't laughable in their execution - our boy Ito keeps getting done dirty

[@Adonis-or8if]

It's like just jumping from one creepy scene to other. And they aren't focusing on kirie and suichi interaction/relationship which plays a major role in series end.

[@colibri224]

Why people aren't leaving ? 1) It could be the influence of the spiral that make them slowly turn collectively insane. 2) It is a very Japanese attitude to trying to ignore a problem to avoid "making a scene". You have to do like everyone, and if no one make the first move, no one will. 3) There's a message on how when we become adult we tend to rationalize the absurd/unnatural despite the clear danger and focus on the wrong priorities : "Yeah, weird stuff are happening in town but, I'm not gonna leave like that! I have work tomorrow, studies, projects, my family to take care of. My whole life in this town! Where would I go ? How will I make money ?"

[@Afreshio]

great observations

[@sarafontanini7051]

the moral of the story: don't fuck with snails

[@Cathart1c]

The thing that is important to remember when you read Junji Ito's manga or watching the anime as in this case is that it's basically fever dream. Nothing makes sense here and people are acting completely irrationally. That's deliberate narrative choice by the author, he isn't even trying to tell a comprehensive story, to be blunt he makes some concept, like "what if this guy just suddenly turned into the snail?" and just goes with it without trying to be anywhere near realistic. Style over substence as they say. It can turn off very many of people but it's just how it is. Funniest thing is that Spiral is actually one of the most comprehensive Ito's stories 🤣

[@jndd]

you guys missed the after credits scene ?

[@Green-FUKUFUKUFUKUFUKUFUKU]

alternate episode title: Yukako Yamagishi falls in (to) aromanticism (www)

[@leonieschnieders190]

I said to my bf that this could've cooked a little longer. He replied that it could've used a better cook. The animation quality is not so great this episode. The 1st one got me really excited, now I am just scared. I hope they add the hospital chapters, but that might make everything too cramped for 4 eps. They combined like 6 chapters in this episode and they still did not resolve the one with Shuichis mom while that is chapter 2 of the manga...

[@anitaremenarova6662]

You've missed the after credits scene, oh well.

[@Inimichi99]

I watched this while eating 😅😊

[@JMCOPBR]

I could never😭

[@bondbond5397]

Man... "stares out the window"

[@oportaldepedra2662]

Haha, I'm like Lindsay in this. I don't care that much about animation style XD like carson does. Also, I love your reactions ❤you guys are amazing

[@sweet-nessu]

I don’t want to spread any false information, but at the very least there seems to be a consensus that the director for the first episode was basically fired at some point during production (before series was finished). I’ve seen people saying that the director for the second episode is supposedly someone “blacklisted” from the industry which seems like a stretch. In any case, a lot of the work for episode was outsourced to tons of different other studios, which might explain the drop in quality somewhat. In any case, hopefully we at least get a few more eps like the first one but yeah if it continues like this then it’s going to be pretty sad.

[@Green-FUKUFUKUFUKUFUKUFUKU]

I don't mean it in a rude way, but I do think you're exxagerating. though to be clear, I too noticed more shakey animation here (well, shakey isn't the right word, but you get what i'm trying to put across) than in the prior, but like, of course if you see a review telling you "feel this way.", you're going to pay extra attention to feel that way. I would reccomend going into a story without seeing how others feel first. again, this isn't me saying your criticisms are unfounded, I felt this way too when watching, but to me it was "that's off, but look at how hard this clearly was to animate? stuff is gonna fall through the floorboards with 3D animation sometimes". I just find it impressive that it can stay so high quality alot of the time, frankly. and to be fair, it's only when characters are doing really active stuff that the animation becomes strange; with this not being an action story, I think that's really understandable, it must be tough on the production team, and it's only minor errors. that's just how I feel, though. loving the Uzumaki reactions. I know you weren't saying it was unwatchable or something like that! It just felt appropriate to give my own view on the work. I did prefer episode 1, but that's more a narrative thing. I really don't think most the episode at all looked weird.

[@sarafontanini7051]

yeah I feel the mixing of so many different stories here is the real issue here, makes it feel way too disjointed for some, that's like the only real issue here. But yeah I agree, what kind of reactor reads somethign that will set their expectations for what they're reacting to? that's a silly thing to do.

[@Kkttrr31643]

Please. This isn't people complaining for the sake of complaining. The difference is there and it is quite clear to most people. Just because you don't care much or notice animation doesn't mean others don't. If I wanted just the story I would read the manga again. Animation is a medium, judging the artwork and wanting good animation is the same as noticing cinematography of a movie or the prose of a novel.

[@Green-FUKUFUKUFUKUFUKUFUKU]

@@Kkttrr31643 I'm pretty sure I explicitly phrased my comment to be clear that I'm aware he isn't complaining for no reason, yeah.

[@MostlySoftware]

The problem isn't that it's unwatchable but that the art needs to be ep1 quality to be actually scary, especially with a production of a story by authors like junji ito which rely so hard on the visuals for building an atmosphere. It has downgraded from something genuinely scary to a creepy mystery show

[@hazardEXE27]

Are you going to watch Bleach(one of the big 3 shonen) and Bleach tybw arc, tybw is the arc whose two cours are in top 10 highest rated anime tv series of all time and latest cour is literally #2. This cour will also win anime of the year 2024

[@brk726]

But what is the narrative? It's just kinda creepy moments one after the other. Characters don't act like people.

[@purple-meteor]

笑い、と、ホラーは紙一重w 髪や蝸牛なんて、ちょっとのズレでギャグになるわな

[@whitecat1226]

This is the chapter that make me traumatized to snails especially that kind of snail

[@Armedschoolkid]

watch inuyashiki pls!

[@eatersoul5185]

Watch tsumasho

[@user-sq7ms6hi9f]

Naruto Fans : You do like Naruto Uzumaki People after read Uzumaki : 💀

[@usurper3497]

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[@Green-FUKUFUKUFUKUFUKUFUKU]

you know, isn't the relationship between the two kids who wanted to leave town.. kinda an intense gap moe..? it's not like they were hurting eachother, so it was kind of sweet? maybe?

[@sarafontanini7051]

its weirdly the least horrific and most wholesome chapter in the story, in a very weird way. THeir transformation wasn't even unpleasant for them, in fact it was their happiest moment.

[@zoru_pines]

Bro talk really fast before the episode end, and i just skip 30% of the video looking if they react to the end credit scenes after the discussions, nope, they don't 😂 even tho that's what i wanna heard in the discussion like "how bro back to life!? What's the correlation of become zombie with spiral!?"

[@AzamiKurotani]

Hehehe

[@testing85]

my disappointment is immeasurable

[@leikeylosh]

2:48 That punch animation was terrible

[@insiderang8570]

I liked this episode. In my opinion it wasn't worse that the first one. I think i would rank them equal. But then again. I haven't read the manga so maybe that is the reason why people are saying it isn't as good. I dunno.

[@CheesyDale]

It's definitely more disturbing but the quality is worse so it balanced out I guess

[@aqrxv]

I think the pacing in this episode was actually superior to the first episode, which seemed quite rushed. Both were good, though.

[@dudeman1983]

The high quality and nuance of animation for the first episode is actually insane. Making all four episodes at that high a quality could probably take an extra year or so to do properly. While the downgrade is disappointing, the first episode set the bar high, so being closer to "above average" isn't too harsh a critique

[@DarkKnight2037]

This episode really super disappointed me. Given how long it took on top of when it was scheduled for. 4-5 years total, at least 1 year per episode, and almost no colour. I feel like this is super disappointing because this animation was worse than Invincible's lowest points and that took 2 years for 8 episodes, each more than double the length of these ones. Id have preferred they cut out crtain story points to mkae the series more wholisticially together instead of being too cobbled together though. I think if they at least maintained a decent level of animation through this episode id have been fine with it, but t was not even that

[@ivanka9084]

First

[@Green-FUKUFUKUFUKUFUKUFUKU]

the characters stupidity is pretty funny, but to be fair, I do sympathize with the author. afterall, if the characters are smart, it'll become a thriller where they're trying to break the curse, and could even devolve into an action story, since ambition tends to turn into action. or even a political drama if the government got involved..? military science fiction where military tanks are trying to shoot spirals? my point is, I get that choice to make the characters really dense, so keep it within the genre.

[@moalboris239]

I mean in context it makes sense. The spiral stuff is obviously screwing with everyone's minds to make it seem more normal which is why everyone isn't running for the hills. They are going batshit and don't really realize it at all. In classic cosmic horror style.

[@Afreshio]

they arent idiots. they're jus being influenced by the spiral curse

[@Green-FUKUFUKUFUKUFUKUFUKU]

@@Afreshio i dunno man, I feel like there was a point before the curse took hold alot that the protagonist might go "yeah, I'm skipping town"; after the first episode and stuff

[@doubleasworkshop1692]

​@@Green-FUKUFUKUFUKUFUKUFUKU you see. The suthor isn't at fault and nor are the characters idiots. The problem is the anime is mashing too many stuff into the same episodes. The manga is a slow descent into madness. So when the first few events happen, they're like, "oh weird, but okay". Then shit just starts going crazy and they're in too deep to leave and are held in by (SPOILERS). Seriously, read the manga, the anime is doing no service to the original work. The shit that happened in this episode happened over the course of several months in the manga. It was slow decent into madness, like a proper lovecraftian horror

[@Green-FUKUFUKUFUKUFUKUFUKU]

@@doubleasworkshop1692 makes sense!

[@aqrxv]

Didn't notice any significant difference in quality between this and the other episode. Suspect your reaction was just colored by prior review - if you go in looking for issues, you find issues.

[@pedroluca9778]

There is a clear decline in the animation in the second episode they are not wrong at all

[@BOLDcast]

I know what you mean, cause I have done that before. But I can say for certain that I would have noticed it 100% I go into every reaction looking for stuff like that. And in this case it’s not the entire episode, but most of it if compared to the first ep is a clear downgrade. Idk why it happened, but just look at characters when they’re walkng, when they’re talking, etc. and look at similar scenes of shuichi and kirie talking and walking last ep. You’ll notice a clear difference. Like I said in the ep, it’s not at the point where it’s unwatchable. There are many cuts that maintain the level of detail from the first ep. But so much of the episode in between looks like a bad one piece episode.

[@mrpeanutbutter6817]

I suggest you watch them again, you can see the difference from the get go, the characters move more robotically, there's heavier use of plain cg, instead of the redrawn rotoscoped characters. There's a scene in which Shuichi's mouth doesn't even move while speaking, the art quality in general dropped a whole lot, except for a couple shots here and there. Moving up and down the stairs inside the lighthouse was poorly handled. The drop in quality from the first to second episode is drastic.

[@aqrxv]

@@BOLDcast Thanks for the response! I agree there were some issues, but I didn't find them significant compared to the good storytelling and direction. I suppose it is common in anime to blow a fair bit of the budget on episode 1. Then again, I don't watch a lot of One Piece -- and I often enjoy anime for the character designs, voice acting, and story rather than the raw animation, which is for me the least important. Not that I don't enjoy good stuff when I see it!.

[@aqrxv]

Uh, why would I want to watch an anime I enjoyed a second time in the hope of not enjoying it as much?

[@FelixRodriguez-ct9ll]

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