BOLTR: Snap-On Microlithium Batteries

[@gsilva220]

"Snap-On only beats me when I deserve it, just like my daddy" I think he watched Hazbin Hotel...

[@md_vandenberg]

"Hahaha... No." - Radio Demon

[@Rapidpanda1st]

5:27: 33% more. 3 -> 4 is 1/3 more.

[@OneMarko]

But 4 -> 3 is 25% less. Crazy how that works.

[@javaguru7141]

@@OneMarko Yes because it's from a larger amount in the second case. The amount of change is the same. It just comes out of a larger number. 25% more means the wrong amount more. I know you're probably joking but it's good to untangle.

[@waylandLindale]

Percentages screw with people. Just like when a retailer marks everything down 20%, and then says “save an additional 10% if you use your store credit card”. Most folks walk away saying I saved 30%, nope. 30% off of a hondo is $30. 20% off a hondo is $20 and then the additional 10% off $80 is $8’ for a savings of $28 not $30.

[@alexmaclean1]

The extra terminals are because these batteries also fit the older 7.2v stuff. Same idea as the flex volt.

[@alexmaclean1]

@ indeed lol I own one of the old flashlights that took the two cell batteries that look similar but only have the vertical cells. Worked great but probably not worth the 120 cdn I paid for it lol

[@Crushonius]

There was a Young Man from Kent Whose Rod was so long it bent. So to save himself trouble He bent it in double, And instead of coming - he went!

[@brokentombot]

This sounds like a serious medical condition. I'm calling EMS.

[@poptartmcjelly7054]

Sounds like that one chuck norris joke we used to joke about in school. "Chuck made his dick two feet long, how did he do it?" "~He bent it in half"

[@henryokeeffe5835]

Couldn't stop thinking "Just pull it out" when you were cutting up the battery. But I bet you've heard that before

[@soupflood]

Pulling it out might have been more difficult than straight cutting it, due to the selastic.

[@signlsirchir2156]

@@soupflood the one I dissected 2yrs old came apart smoothly.

[@mrgreenswelding2853]

That's what she said

[@SupremeRuleroftheWorld]

fun fact, those cells cost less then 3 dollhairs a piece.

[@precesionnoreaster1507]

It's amazing that power toolcompanies do this from also work one to snap on

[@jrmbayne]

These days I just borrow tool from the repair department and sign someone else's name for them. No sense in two people getting cheated by snapon like this

[@briangarrow448]

I had a buddy who printed a fake ID with his boss's name and code for"emergency tool check out situations". It was to save his boss time, at least that is what he claimed.

[@user-neo71665]

Easier to just get a job in the tool room. All kinds of free tool access when that pesky breaker on the security system trips again.

[@tewksindahat]

Every shop has a Dewclaw. You can't call it a proper shop until you attract one.

[@Intermernet]

Good rule of thumb: If you think your shop doesn't have a Dewclaw, *You are the Dewclaw!*

[@kurtownsj00]

@@Intermernet So since I work alone, that makes me Lead tech AND dewclaw? damn

[@cameronvu4752]

Who hasn’t tactically acquired a scrench from the work bench?

[@PeanutButterPavement]

Even after 6 years of use, they're still tight in the tools. At least in mine they are. I've found they sure take a beating though! The current Brushless range of their tools is 10000x better then their old brushed stuff. I've been swapping over all my brushed stuff and loving the new brushless. :D

[@ajfurnari2448]

"Yeah, you're paying more..." Don't worry, only $15/mo for the next 6 years and it's all yours!

[@futbolplaya07]

AJ Furnari just in time for the batteries to not hold a charge anymore

[@suzysuzuki8865]

I made the mistake of buying a good bit of tools from a snap on truck lol

[@edlomonaco]

The snap on guy by me had one of the nicest offshore fishing boats around! I didn't understand how a guy selling tools out of the back of a truck could afford such luxuries!

[@TraceyAllen]

Maybe the boat dealership is like Snap-on for Snap-on guys?

[@jaydunbar7538]

If he had such a boat, either he was selling a boat load of tools or his old lady was the bread winner.

[@edlomonaco]

@@jaydunbar7538 back in that time he was the only one around now there's a lot of competition.

[@barkebaat]

6:30 - Priceless

[@bean2594]

If you look carefully at the DC terminals, you have +square, + circle, -square, and - circle. I'm guessing the tool itself puts the two banks in series if it wasn't 14 vdc and in parallel if it wants 7.5 vdc

[@802Garage]

The best part is, you can buy those cells for less than $2 a piece in bulk! So Fap-Off is charging you $120 a piece for $8 in battery cells, 50 cents in wiring and solder, and a $2 piece of molded plastic! :D

[@matsv201]

No.. you probably need to pay 4 or 5 bucks for those cells. Yes you can get calls for 2 bucks, but they would be crap or fake.

[@LKN117]

What is your your point? Is this some new concept in economics? Are you also saying you have the means to make the exact same product for yourself cheaper than snap-off sells it for? Mind you these batteries are readily available off the tool trucks for 80 freedom bucks nowhere near the 120 you stated. Is it still overpriced? Yes.

[@iancarnel8609]

A few bux in the board too. Esp one with auto voltage switching.

[@802Garage]

@@iancarnel8609 Ah yes I forgot that. Probably the most expensive part really.

[@Endmass]

I think the mold(s) have the biggest costing.

[@squadmeta]

1:38 the IEC designation code below the 'don't throw this in the trash' icon, gives info about battery type and configuration. Something you rarely see on knock off versions.

[@A.F.M.B.1234]

"Microlithium" uses 4 bog-standard 18650s (albeit good ones) What's micro about this?

[@jaredanthony8070]

The dicks that buy em!

[@ericwhite265]

Ja Ro And a 50 cent circuit board. Thats pretty standard these days. The tools are cheap and the batteries are where they make the profit.

[@jaredanthony8070]

@@jaro6985 I mean.....is there a single company that charges a realistic amount for batteries? Snap, mil, makita, ryobi...........

[@mr.christopherp.4851]

Canada! Amount of lubes they are using on us

[@Intermernet]

Nah, the Lithium is smaller. Sanp-On have managed to break physics by changing the atomic radius of Lithium. 152 picometers was *way* too big! Source: I̶ ̶m̶a̶d̶e̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶u̶p̶ Snap-On sales rep.

[@johnpreisler6713]

Part of the price is for the big fancy catering truck with the chrome wheels they're delivered on.

[@gungadinn]

I remember a time when my SnapOn guy would come over to the house at the end of the day and we'd drink beer, bullshit and I'd repair broken air tools. While I truly believe SnapOn battery operated tools are a rip-off, how many other companies will come to the shop you work, extend credit to someone they don't know and deliver and replace tools that clearly abused. SnapOn also has one of the worst warranties on their battery operated tool, typically one year. Milwaukee has a three year warranty on the tool and battery. Sears would replace Craftsman tools, but you had to drive to a Sear store. Toward the end, Sears wanted to replace USA made hand tools with Taiwanese tools. Yep, Craftsman is 1/3-1/2 the price of a SnapOn tool, but there are some specialty tools that Craftsman doesn't offer.

[@lukerediger8431]

actually kinda clever arrangement of the terminals, allows the tool to parallel or series them as needed without having to use any electronics, just how the terminals are wired.

[@WigWagWorkshop]

Anyone else get the exploding battery commercial before the vidjayo?

[@ampex189]

I got an add for a flashlight so powerful you can cook with it. I'd be curious to see what makes it tick.

[@josh33025]

Yes seemed odd I thought it was his video.

[@300DBenz]

KZbin adding its own “Don’t try this at home” message.

[@JETJOOBOY]

At least you got 4* Samsung 25r for the vaping! They'd cost you £20 plus from any shop front in UK..

[@phateracing]

Greenworks 60v 2.5Ah packs have 15 of them inside. The 5Ah packs have 30 of them. Pretty sure the 2.5Ah packs cost less than the snapon 4s pack.

[@Jive86]

Been pulling vtc5's out of "dead" makita packs for my douche flute.

[@garryr]

310S here and I love the 3/8 ratchet. Maybe the sander quality is dependent on the day it was built? I have had 0 problems with mine (about 3 years i think) while a coworker let the smoke out of his after less that 1 week.

[@danm238]

Before KZbin granted me access to this one I got an ad from LG Chem - "never handle a bare cell" Must be some high flyin lawyers to get LG running PSAs... Anyway that's how I knew this was gonna be a good video!

[@MattLitkeRacing]

These are $102.95 USD on Snapon.com now. I’d like to send you a Festool battery for examination

[@dragthatsht]

Snapon.com is the highest price you will pay for anything they sell. I pay 65-75 USD of the truck depending on what all I'm buying.

[@LKN117]

I get them off the truck for $80

[@user-neo71665]

My dog ate some roadkill and had some festool for a good few days

[@MattLitkeRacing]

Nick Lemon they are the wurst

[@denisohbrien]

@@LKN117 about to say i get them off the truck for £80 ish .. my god i remember a time when the £ was actually worth something, these days pounds dollars and euros are much and such.

[@bo0tsy1]

They gave me micro lithium, I still watch AvE.

[@popekbar]

Bought the people are monsters hoodie. You are a gentleman and a scholar. Keep up the great content sir.

[@yagoa]

2:30 seem to be two separate parallel circuits that can be connected in series

[@TheInsaneTD]

I'd say that happens in the tool too, clever design. I bet the new 7 volt stuff could parallel the two sides for longer running or more amps.

[@TheOnlyPsycho]

BTW some 18650 cells have the protection built on top of the positive terminal, makes it a couple of mm longer. Also the multiple terminals, for all the cell terminals, could make it a cheaper battery since there doesn't need to be a balancing controller inside.

[@gttpete]

All the lights that take that battery run at 7.2 volts and the ratchets and whatnot run at 14.4, the battery can run in series or parallel, the terminals in the tool are in different locations to achieve different voltages.

[@apathtrampledbydeer8446]

That better be a Five star hotel for my angry pixies for that price!

[@bobprivate8575]

No! If you put them up in a good hotel, they won't be angry anymore! Contented pixies just aren't as effective.

[@apathtrampledbydeer8446]

@@bobprivate8575 You are right, I have been blind all my life, my pixies, they all have been content, content pixies do not chooch! Thanks for the eyeopener! Mellow greetings fellow citizen!

[@tomnow95]

14.4v is 4cell 18650 in series. 14.4 is nominal voltage (3,6v x 4) This can be connected in configuration 4s1p - 14.4v nominal 2.5ah or in 2s2p - 7.2v nominal and 5ah. The '12v' battery from other brands are from nicd/nimh era. Nominal voltage of lijon 12v is 11.1v for 3.7v cell and 10.8 for 3.6v cell. Max voltage of 4s lijon is 16,8v and for 3s is 12.6v. Charged lijon is 4.2volt. you can easly calculate their voltage:)

[@ezedjay]

I remember the early 90's. Snap-On were top notch solid. Solid as as rock. We used to put a tiny spanner in a tiny vice and jump up and down on it and it never ever, ever slipped. Their drills were also amazing. Was it just compared to others or have others caught up now? Snap-off don't make offices, routers, computers so nowadays I can't get a gauge on it anymore. My "man-hands" are like baby girl hands in 2020....

[@paulvale2985]

5:00 Unc Bumble, "This is a great battery..." Me, "Err...was before you 'explored' its greatness"

[@rolo5872]

Love the random Narcan reference 😂😂😂

[@mattwilliams2709]

So me thinks there is a chance the - surrounded by the square and + surrounded by the square go together and the - surrounded by the circle goes with the + thats surrounded by the circle. What voltage does that net you? Approx time of 2:30.

[@Hoistie]

Super excited for the electric ratchet. I have the long neck one. I broke it in a way that I am worried it will happen again. Looking to see what his failure mode will be

[@aarontipton1981]

Get on yer knees and smile like a doughnut lol

[@babj615]

The original Snap-on 7.2v hand tool battery packs included just the two vertical batteries with a flush fit bottom. When they went to 14.4v tools, they promised backwards compatibility with the new battery packs, which of course have twice as many cells inside. You tested at both +/- terminal sets on the battery, but did you look inside the tool to see which contacts were used by the tool? 7.2v tool vs 14.4v tool?

[@doitnewitt4163]

If the tool companies know what’s good for them they’d make tools so AVE doesn’t “smile like a donut” when he takes it apart 🤣

[@GottSegneDich]

You add a whole new meaning to ‘tear down.’

[@nancyschultz3997]

Broke the sun gear on my trusty FAR72 knuckle buster and bought one of these ratchets. Satisfied with the torque, RPM is a little slower i think. Battery lasts a long time. Keep the videos coming!

[@Max-oi9es]

I've always enjoyed your videos the lingo is obviously one of a kind lol.

[@bobrobert1123]

All canadians talk like that

[@martinda7446]

Just in case anyone is confused... The chemistry of the cell (check periodic table) determines its voltage. A lithium cell will have a 3.6V specified cut off or minimum cell voltage, and this is used to determine the battery voltage. A battery is a collection of cells. When added in series or end on end the voltage adds and 2 cells will give 7.2 volts. (When connected in parallel the voltage stays constant but it can supply twice the current). So four cells can be configured either as two pairs in parallel, series connected for 7.2V with double current capacity. Or all four in series for 14.4V.

[@chuckym1068]

Good to know the battery is up to par. I paid close to 300 down here in Colorado. 2 batt, charger and tool. Will be looking at the Milwaukee 12v line when this takes a crap, due to the hate and hate relationship I have with Snapon. Thanks for the info

[@rjk7104]

Those 2 plus and minus terminals seem to be coded with a square and a circle - what happens if you check the voltage between the terminals opposite of each other rather than next to each other? Actually now that I am sitting and thinking about it, I betcha the tool itself contains the circuitry to either parallel or series the 2 sets of 2 cells inside the battery. All it would need is a jumper in the right configuration based on whether the tool wanted 7v or 14v.

[@HanSolo__]

I wouldn mind to see some of Hitachi stuff and this cRyobi on its batterijas. Spanks for die vigajos Uncle!

[@AntKardano]

Love the Fakita cameo, your video made me get one and I bought one in DeWalt colours, will see how it will hold up.

[@TangoCharlieAlpha]

AvE.....truly a man's man among men in a world of sheep! Good on ya!

[@loddude5706]

"Ewe certainly hit the ram in the nads with that one, reverend . . ."

[@TangoCharlieAlpha]

@@loddude5706 Amen, brother. A-men!

[@stoneyswolf]

The extra terminals are for the older tools that are lower voltage. I tossed my tools when I got the price on these batteries.

[@SgtStinger]

So just for reference, these cells go for less than $2.75 US per cell when bought in bulk. The margins are insane.

[@Graive17]

These ain't too terribly priced when you buy em on sale, two for a buck 60 but it don't come around all too often. Great batteries, really enjoy the micro lithium platform.

[@demmery1160]

You can buy just the casement on the snap on website if you are interested in fixing that battery.

[@alf_1779]

Watching a hobo tearing a battery apart on KZbin... Priceless 🤣

[@radman999]

Shit I was thinking the exact same thing

[@batterymooch]

Yup, old battery tech but a good one...Samsung 25R out of the Malaysia factory. Surprised to see it in a power tool pack! Better 18650 cells are available now, like the Sony/Murata VTC series and Molicel’s P26A, but they’re probably at least a dollar more per cell. I think the voltage readings were weird due to the wrong terminals being used? It looks like there were square and circular depressions for the pos. and neg. terminal indicators. You measured the voltages using a square pos and circular neg and then you measured voltage using a circular pos and square neg. Maybe the voltages need to be read using square pos/neg and circular pos/neg? If that makes any sense at all.

[@jaclynlata3968]

great thing about it was when i first bought the 14.4Vd niCAD threee eighths impact nd she definitely threw some shmoo in my eyes i knew there was a problem with the brushes and low n behold they put some fine fiberglass screen door malaria protecting device and low n behold the protection safety squints got less shrapnel than before. Its like they listen as they are taking your money. Almost makes me want to give them more.

[@alfredoibarra9825]

I’ve always wondered what the practical use of fingerless gloves are needed/used for.

[@freshfrij0les]

Keeping your hands warm but still being able to do fine work

[@danhammond8406]

Place to collect snot running from your nose without getting it on your fingers

[@iancarnel8609]

Fingerless facks of course.

[@hurdlegirdle3212]

Like I always say, Snap On .. Rip Off. I too have fallen victim to the shiny shiny truck.

[@Fireship1]

The tool pimp is just like the real pimp. His wares are hard to resist!

[@daveseddon5227]

Methinks the 9 downvotes (as of 25th Jan 2020 @ 18:00 UK time) are from peoples who don't understand the Queen's English as she is meant to be spoke! (for emoji haters).

[@meeder78]

14,4V are usually 4 cells so I don't really get why it is specifically mentioned here. 4x 3,6V is 14,4V Only the real cheapo garbage tools use 4V or even 4,2V per cell to indicate battery voltage :) 18V tools are 5 cells but some manufacturers claim 20V with 5 cells.

[@randoe8009]

Thank God it's not your money... Too funny! And thank you for your effort. Scrolling down now to help out with the beer fund.

[@danieldeurloo]

Ave do a vid on a nice set of affordable metal drill bits

[@dangerrangerlstc]

Right about $102 freedom bucks here in U S and A. I use that ratchet at work all the time. Heavy truck shop wrenching on Peterbilts and Kay Whoppers. Motor cuts out super fast so no more busted knuckles.

[@AndrewBrowner]

never had a snap on battery before but i dare guess that each of those positives and negatives is its own 2 batteries, 7.2v tools just connect them in parallel and 14.4v tools use them in series, put your probe from one positive to the negative on the other side youll find your 14.4v with no need for fancy switching

[@blahorgaslisk7763]

This video makes me wonder a bit about how they build these batteries. It was obviously not made to be taken apart, so why was it put together with a pair of screws? Was it to give some sense of quality? Because if it had been ultrasonically welded or even glued together it would have been at least as strong if not stronger than this. And as it's not coming apart anyway, why not weld seal it permanently?

[@BlindMansRevenge2002]

When you can do that to a battery and then put it back together so that it works like it came out of the box you can truly fix anything.

[@markfergerson2145]

And not a scrap of duck tape sacrificed to The Cause!

[@MrFlatox]

Do you have the 14v between the + from one side of the battery connector and the - from the other side ?

[@agentmango]

My guess is that the battery presents two separate 2s circuits with those terminals, and it's up to how the tool is designed whether the power is used as 4s or 2s2p.

[@MrFlatox]

@@agentmango yes, that was my guess

[@Novers]

The extra (2) cells is kinda cleaver

[@iancarnel8609]

That was the difference between ryobi 18v nicad and sears 19.2v c3 nicad ..they were both made by TTI but sears had an extra cell packed into the stem.

[@kevykev8347]

While we are on the topic of batteries... Why do Milwaukee M12 chargers fail so miserably and often. I have a M12 charger that failed after about 6 charge hours. I've heard it's a common theme with these units. Strange considering the tools are pretty good quality. Thoughts?

[@S7EVE_P]

Barely time to drink my brew on this one....

[@raymondmucklow3793]

Yeah 2 kids tho, I'm glad he still with us. For more viewing pleasure ziptiesandbiasplies, this ole Tony, Abom79, new to me deboss garage, last but definitely not least VGG. Fur when AvE running a.little short😁.

[@TKettle]

Damn near spit mine out when I realized which makita that was.

[@raymondmucklow3793]

@@acrodrigues1 yes of course bigclive I cant believe I forgot him, I'm a patreon for 2 channels AvE and BigClive.

[@S7EVE_P]

@@raymondmucklow3793 Yeah man not really complaining, I understand the pressures. There's nobody else quite like AvE, but I'll check out your recommendations. Cheers

[@raymondmucklow3793]

@@S7EVE_P no worries, anytime one his videos is shorter, I get bummed. Just cuz I enjoy them. He has a video coming out 4x:xx something minutes long I watched it this morning.

[@Fee.1]

So what’s crazy is that Milwaukee’s 12v stuff is more powerful than snap-on’s 18V stuff. If only we could give 14.4 volts to Milwaukee’s 12v line

[@stevej6824]

@Fee I upgraded all my cordless tools a few years ago with the Milwaukee FUEL 12v stuff. I haven’t been happier.

[@disgruntledegghead6923]

@@stevej6824 the Fuel 18v is where it's at 😉

[@stevej6824]

@Jeff Knebel I bought the 12v for home use and my own projects, I like the compact size. At work I have the 18v stuff since my company is paying for them lol

[@Fee.1]

Steve J I’ve got them too, I love my m12 fuel surge. I wish it had an extra cell though because it would be more powerful than the old m18 fuel surge if it did

[@jdrok5026]

Are you sure about your claims because the Milwaukee 12v line up isnt very powerful at all

[@MrSingleJack]

"Cut toward your chum, not your thumb". 🤣 😍😍😍

[@christopherguy1217]

The batteries are probably $20-$25, BMS board $5-1$10, case 3D print under $5 and you have a replacement for 1/3 the cost off the truck. The 4 terminals are so that the voltage configuration is done on the tool, + to + and - to - gives you 7.2 v and 5 AHr, or connect in series and get 14.4 v at 2.5 AHr. Same battery for different tools.

[@FlexDRG]

:( I was hoping you would show more of the inerds. Were it 2 separate 7.2v 2S circuits? And would the wiring within the tool crosslink a +&- to put the 2 in series for 14.4v and other tools put them parallel for 7.2v and double the amps?

[@ryan_riffs]

i had to have my 3/8 snapon electric ratchet warrantied twice. Something got fkd in the gear drive. It would just slip upon use. Now the 1/4 longnecker has been a good one so far. I use it daily.

[@MrHack4never]

Interesting how it's just two battery packs in one package

[@titus142]

Man just seeing green the LED on the side and the way the trigger looks, I don't have much hope for that ratchet being any better.

[@HimmelWeint]

No clue but I've been running mine for over 4 years at this point and still works good while many co workers who bought the milwaukee have had theirs crap out on them. Not to mention mine sees the most abuse and use. So the Snap On might be a fair bit better though it does cost 3 times the price. That said one of my co workers have burned through 2 and is on his 3rd milwaukee cordless ratchet. Also yes the common failure on those milwaukee is the horrible paddle which might as well just snap it off when you get it since it'll do that in a month anyways then the next to go is the anemic pin that the ratcheting mechanism works on that is if the switch doesn't snap off after the paddle snaps off.

[@AMGmechanic]

I think the sander you bought it probably the most over priced piece in the 14.4v lineup. The driver’s rocker trigger mechanism is what makes so much better in a flat rate setting. I have a 1/4” ratchet that was given plenty of hot supers throughout its life. I’d be more than happy to donate it to the empire of dirt for a tear down.

[@ferencszabo3504]

The special Strap on device, magically pulls in the power from the black hole.

[@Silexfox]

good to know i didn't get complete shafted on the fap-off batteries . my 3/8' electric ( same as in vid ) has been going strong for 4 years , haven't had to send it in for a rebuild yet . though i've cooked my 3/8" impact for the 3rd time in the same time span . I absolutely love the little sawz all ... drill is ok but sudden stops from trigger release and the clutch will spit the tool you are using out

[@theR6969]

It's not an "extra battery" as in a bonus. They have to use 4 batteries to get the dual voltage. Each 2 batteries are connected in series to form two circuits, depending on the tool, they are either used in parallel to get 7.4v or in series to get 14.8v. nothing is done for free or as an "extra".

[@joecarnes9174]

"Complementary naloxone shot" fuk I just pissed my pants laughing thank you!

[@Casto67]

AvE not your best BOLTR, sorry - do we get to see the circuitry inside, and did you solve the voltage? Does it switch like flexvolt or is it possibly 14.4 when taken across two opposing terminals? Seems like you opened it, looked at the cell brand and there was 4 and that was that. Would be interesting to know about the rest of the internals as usual? Unless I missed something...? Cheers.

[@mikedeff]

"Smile like a donut" Most underrated quote

[@jimdean0202]

That is the new battery that came out at the end of last year. The original batteries were 2mh

[@Mrsmith1082]

I have an older hitachi 12v with the same exact battery layout and it happens to specify 14.4v peak. Nothing special that hitachi didn't already do it seems.

[@UndreamedFool17]

Can you convert a 60v battery to plug into a wall outlet? That way your 60v tools could be corded or battery powered. That would be really nice to have for my 60v grinder.

[@garethwilliams8930]

love the stuff you do with the baby girl and the wife ,any more to come

[@danhammond8406]

He wants more kids but the mrs wont let him near it.

[@jmd1743]

Could you please do videos on those battery adapters that let you use one brand of battery with another brand of tool? For instance will they mess up your tools?

[@Hoistie]

So relieved honestly. Is the 3/8 drive impact version of that buffer any different in quality?

[@Rabbit66-96]

I attempted to take one of mine apart not long ago and gave up with the two cells that run vertical. Toite as frig!! The only issues mine have are the terminals seem to get loose and the jeezlus tool will not work unless you push the back of the battery in, and after so long they don't hold a charge well. Granted, I've gotten my money's worth and then some out of them. I run my 3/8 impact and 3/8 ratchet to hell every day. In fact, I bought two of the impacts just to dual weild!! Also, they're about a crisp Benjamin off of the truck in the great country of Texas.

[@scottr939]

Samsung 25Rs are about $3.50 each in single unit retail cost, I can only imagine what they cost in lots of 10,000 to Snap-On. The monitor board can't be more than a buck or two. I don't know how much custom molded cases like that cost to make, but I can't imagine it's more than $5. I know retail value-added product is usually about 3-4x material cost, but even $80 US is a ball squeeze.

[@killingtime669]

Do one on the matco ratchet. I went to matco for the better warranty the more metal in the housing and the greasable head. We have both at the shop and the guys say they like my matco better. Smoother operation too.

[@seanflanagan2441]

Wow! Snapped Off, who woulda thot you'd get a good value for yer (Patrons') fiat/script? Now THAT'S amazing!

[@isb170swap8]

Isn't 33% more battery saying that the regular has 3 cells so one more would be 1/3 more battery?

[@denisohbrien]

the terminals are so the battery can be wired as 7.2 or 14.4v depending on the tool. look at the circuit board in your sander and it's obvious :)

[@denisohbrien]

aaaaand now I got to the 8 minute mark

[@tbpc1]

Do yous in the north pay more for snapon then we do here in the states?

[@12346798Mann]

Those 25Rs are really cheap, but very good for the price. I used them in some projects because they were so cheap. I just checked the prices and they are even cheaper now, a shop in the Netherlands sells a single 25R for 3Eur with even lower bulk pricing (down to 2.15Eur for 600). So I guess the cost of making one of those battery packs is somewhere around 15-20USD.

[@inkman6964]

Went and bought the copy impact driver after you tested it and can’t complain about it at all and I’m an avid makita user since the came out (28 years carpenter/builder) you should try their 18v brushless grinder for £39 I think you will be impressed

[@Zeleah]

I've had my snap-on mini impact and drill since 2014, never had to buy new batteries. Although they do have about 80% of the runtime from when new, but what can you expect. On the impact however, ive had to send it in because the lights on the front quit, and the nose kept coming loose. It is starting to do it again, for how useful they are and how small they are with the amount of power they bring, i don't regret buying them one bit. On the other hand, when they die, i am going to go to the Milwaukee side, for the simple fact that everything about them is cheaper wit the exception of quality. Just my .02

[@jeremybettis8446]

The rambling at the end is hilarious

[@thagrit]

the extra battery is a third more power over a three battery pack not a quarter.