🔴 Mini Talon - 10 Miles (narrated), and my setup on the ground

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bonafidepirate

bonafidepirate

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@bobuilt3199
@bobuilt3199 8 жыл бұрын
This has to be your best yet. I am sure you answered a whole buch of questions for alot of people. great job and keep up the great work.
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Phillips942
@Phillips942 6 жыл бұрын
Man you definitely set the BAR high for the best FPV groundstation setup! Im in awe and envious of your little shed and flying spot! Great narration of your setup and the flight! Totally BADASS!
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I always wanted something setup like this, so when I had to change to build it I had to do it... lol
@the_real_foamidable
@the_real_foamidable 8 жыл бұрын
Super overview and very interesting insight in your equipment. Thanks for the narration and all the details you showed. This was what I suggested in your survey ( but never hoped to see so well executed ).
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words and for the feedback! As I said before, without people viewing my videos and getting something out of them, this would all be a waste of time. (a lot of time too! lol) So knowing what you all want to see makes it easy to do my part. ;)
@bankheadrc2757
@bankheadrc2757 7 жыл бұрын
I like these types of videos . They are very informative , and best at explaining what your thoughts are doing the flight . NEW RECORD also congrats .
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I wish I had more time to fly and make these videos... lol I enjoy doing it. I'm rendering one right now from another Skyhunter flight, it's nothing special, but has some good video with the Runcam 3 at sunset. It should be up by tomorrow night I'd guess. I say *should*, I've been having problems getting the video rendered since Saturday! I think I finally figured out the issue with Sony Vegas though.
@georgewherry691
@georgewherry691 8 жыл бұрын
Great narration and description of equipment. You have a well organized shop. All of your effort really shows.
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
I don't know about well organized, I lose stuff in there all the time! lol I know what you mean though. It's nice to have a little dedicated area for FPV.
@responderman
@responderman 8 жыл бұрын
really enjoyed seeing your set up and seeing another flight. thanks for sharing with us once again.
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
@tressner
@tressner 8 жыл бұрын
another great flight...it so much better when flights are narrated...i am flying out over the ocean to a light house 8 miles out over the sea tommorow so this got me extra excited......now if I don't drive there at 6 am get all set up only to forget my y harness for my two batteries like last time
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
lol That's another benefit of flying from my workshop like this. In my early days of flying R/C I used to go to an AMA club field to fly nitro planes. It was about an hour drive, and I've forgotten little items like that more than once. Luckily there was usually others there flying to help out.
@tressner
@tressner 8 жыл бұрын
I wish I had someone to fly with..if I ever find anyone into flying they never get why I don't fly quadcopters lol
@aerofpv2109
@aerofpv2109 8 жыл бұрын
Another great flight & setup to that perfect FPV number ... 10 miles. Superb mate.
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@loueckert4970
@loueckert4970 8 жыл бұрын
Wow, your setup is amazing. I'm an RF techie (and a ham KT1R) really enjoyed seeing the radio link setup. Very impressed with your range. I think I would add a small tower outdoors and cable up some nice Yagi gain antennas. Thanks for the video!
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I've often thought about a small tower, but ultimately decide against it every time since the gear is already performing beyond what I need it to do... lol
@Starbuckin
@Starbuckin 8 жыл бұрын
Just rewatched the entire vid tonight New Year's Eve and everything you put in this vid is absolutely SPECTACULAR!!!
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Happy new years to you as well! :)
@diverwa
@diverwa 8 жыл бұрын
I like your well setup ground station. The EagleTree is rock solid. 10 miles with this air frame is a walk in the park, double your battery and test your range.
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
Maybe farther down the road... lol I'm only carrying one 4S 5200 for now. It's working so well I'm going to enjoy flying it for a bit, then later on maybe push it for more distance or something. You are right though, this is the most efficient airframe I've had yet. It's impressive. Couple that with how well it flys and it's a winner!
@diverwa
@diverwa 8 жыл бұрын
bonafidepirate, steady as she go's. Wonder if you have an idea of the range with the little yagi you have in your diversity setup as a stand alone?
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
I've been using that little yagi for a little while now trying it out. I've found that it performs very similarly to the patch, it's hard to tell the difference in them. I haven't used it by itself yet, but I will just to confirm later. For what it's worth, the diversity usually sticks on the yagi. For this flight when I was turning back at 10 miles, I looked at the indicator lights on the Eagle Eyes, and it was still using the yagi. The only time it switched was at 5 miles when I was low and the signal was bad on both.
@diverwa
@diverwa 8 жыл бұрын
bonafidepirate, thanks for the heads up. I looked into it with your link, seem to be a great value for the range and compact.
@Starbuckin
@Starbuckin 8 жыл бұрын
Totally Awesome vid and flight Keith! This is exactly what I was talking about/suggesting! The tour of your ground set up was awesome and I'm going to check out the plane set up vid next! I'm gonna have to look closely at the Mini Talon after seeing this!
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I've tried to keep the great suggestions and feedback in mind with these more recent videos, and it seems people enjoy them more than my old ones. I guess people really know what they want... lol I'm willing to bet you'll like the Mini Talon. I can't really fault it, it's a nice little plane!
@bebel25a
@bebel25a 8 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, thanks for posting. You really did a superb job of explaining everything from beginning to end.
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@deontayeblanks1757
@deontayeblanks1757 3 жыл бұрын
You are an Fpv God!! Thanks for the video.
@austntexan
@austntexan 8 жыл бұрын
Wow, school is in session. Really good video man. Always learning something new on your channel. Like the Cat5 cable mod. That really cleans things up.
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
I like the cables too. At first I was concerned it may affect the video quality since they are twisted pairs and not shielded, but I have not seen any difference, even with long cables. I've used them as long as 50ft before. I'm using 25ft cables right now, plus the bits going through the floor of the shed. (maybe another 10ft at the most)
@skycopters
@skycopters 8 жыл бұрын
Keith I'm definitely going to get this yagi seems from your test we can retire all are patch antenna's lol that's an amazing little antenna for its size. BTW great video and gotta get me a mini talon..
@KB5RYE
@KB5RYE 7 жыл бұрын
You can get the yagi in this video from Kent Electronics, wa5vjb.com.
@wildtexusa
@wildtexusa 8 жыл бұрын
Great video, again! I got me one of those pcb Yagi's from the link you gave me the other day and paired it up with a homemade dipole (which I didn't tune yet). Tested it on the weekend with a 250mw TX on 1258mHz. Crystal clear 2 miles out - didn't push any further because it was windy as heck, but pretty impressive for $6 lol! Thanks for the tips, dude.
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah, this little antenna is great! While I haven't done any direct scientific comparison or anything, and don't know of anyone that has, it has been performing well in practice and that's what counts to me. For the price I had to try it, and again, for the price I think it's worth keeping around... lol
@gravitygust
@gravitygust 8 жыл бұрын
Very impressive Keith. I really enjoyed this video.
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@flyinflea
@flyinflea 8 жыл бұрын
Nice tour through your set-up and a cool flight....congrats on the new PB! :)
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I could easily do more than 10, but honestly it gets a little boring doing long flights like this. It's more or less just to test the plane and see how it performs... lol
@donsscooters
@donsscooters 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this one Keith. The Mini's didn't get as cheap as last year for black Friday but I bought a few spares last year. Still no FPV fights on mine but its complicated for us Po folks that live in the city, LOL.
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I got lucky and snagged the kit for about $50 in BG's US warehouse. There was 4 or 5 in stock, I got one and a few friends in an online group bought the rest... lol I think if I ever catch them like that again I'll grab a spare or two.
@weavostigercat2000
@weavostigercat2000 8 жыл бұрын
Very nice flight , you have a great setup there . 8-) . Oh yes that clip idea for the DL Tx v good ,I've ordered some .
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
Nice! I had those little clips sitting on my bench one day when I was trying to mount my DL module, and had a moment of clarity... haha They have worked well for me.
@flyingrock6381
@flyingrock6381 8 жыл бұрын
Brilliant stuff... incredibly smooth!
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I agree, this little plane is super smooth. You'd swear it's a much larger plane than in is while flying it... lol
@planesstevee
@planesstevee 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome video once again pirate!!
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@planesstevee
@planesstevee 8 жыл бұрын
subbed ya. You can sub back lol
@claudiufarcas
@claudiufarcas 8 жыл бұрын
Nice flight! Your experiences are a source of inspiration for rest of us ;)
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad I can share with people that enjoy it!
@xigxagz
@xigxagz 8 жыл бұрын
Top notch video, Keith ...., very informative. Now you've got me torn between selecting a Skyhunter or a Mini-Talon. I wonder how well the Mini-Talon would work for cloud surfing comparatively ?? I would assume that the Skyhunter would handle winds a bit better; but I may be wrong as I don't own either one. Thanks again for the in-depth video.
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
Actually I think the Mini Talon handles wind at least as well as the Skyhunter. I only have one flight with it in the wind so far though, while getting it set up. I think it's higher wing loading helps. They are both very nice FPV platforms without a doubt. I think the only place the Skyhunter will be a better choice is carrying more payload. For example, a heavier pan/tilt with a GoPro has little effect on the Skyhunter, but will be quite noticeable on the Mini Talon. You can also load it up with a ton of batteries to long range flying. That said, the Mini Talon can carry more than I have in this one and cover just as much or more ground on a full load than the SH. The Mini Talon would be FAR easier to transport too. It will fit in the back of a small car full assembled, and is still much much easier to break down than the Skyhunter if you do need to take it apart.
@xigxagz
@xigxagz 8 жыл бұрын
Great !! Good point regarding the size difference between the two. I may just have to order a Mini Talon then. 10 miles out and back is probably farther than I'll ever go !!, also I've got a extra bit of 5 mil laminate that I may cover the wings with for a bit more durability. Thanks for the reply and the video !!, I appreciate it :)
@williambolanos8532
@williambolanos8532 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent your videos. Would you recommend an Eagle Tree Vector in 2020 as a new FC for a skyhunter? thanks!
@TheParachaz
@TheParachaz 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve enjoyed your video with your narration, much more interesting than watching videos with music, no information other than what’s on the screen with those. Where I fly I don’t have the freedom of air that you have, I’m on a flight corridor into two fairly local airports south to north and one north to south, height is my foe! However, using flight24 I can see the commercial flights with their height recorded, it’s the GA and gliders that are the real problem, so no great heights without a buddy lookout.
@scottjohnson8826
@scottjohnson8826 8 жыл бұрын
Love your whole ground station set up! That rocks !!! Keep the great Vids coming. Right now I have the blue beam Omni's RHCP. Will that yagi work with the Omni on my plane?
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I want to make new videos, but the Mini Talon and Skyhunter are both down right now... lol Skyhunter is getting a "refresh" of sorts, going through and updating some things and just tidying it up a little. The mTalon is still awaiting a new ESC after the last flight. I've been too busy lately to finish up the Skyhunter. I'll get back to flying soon enough though. ;) As for the antennas, the yagi is a linear antenna, not circular like the Blue Beams, so you'll lose some gain mixing the two, but it will work, to a degree. It will perform better though if you use a linear antenna on the plane as well, a simple dipole will be a good match for it. I use the ones from fpvpro.
@EnglishTurbines
@EnglishTurbines 8 жыл бұрын
Hi there...My 1280mhz Yagi turned up Today....Now I have it, I noticed that the PCB is drilled where the screen is soldered and also on the active element....It looks almost like its meant to have a short bit of wire pushed through and soldered both sides to connect each side..?...Looks like yours is not soldered on the Clip....but should it be..?...Why would it be drilled?...Curious..?
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure. I don't remember and holes on mine, I will check tomorrow though. I'm pretty sure I just laid the coax on top pads and soldered it. Can you upload a picture of yours? I'm just curious... lol I will check mine tomorrow and get a good clear picture of the coax soldered on.
@EnglishTurbines
@EnglishTurbines 8 жыл бұрын
bonafidepirate Ah, it is drilled and the holes are copper plated through to connect the elements...used a Meter to check continuity....I thought for a moment they were just plain unplated holes....:)
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
Ok yeah, that sounds right.
@blackbirdboy1
@blackbirdboy1 8 жыл бұрын
I love that SHED Set-up. Flying from the comfort of your computer chair!!! Great stuff. Plus I'm learning loads from you about the Vector. I now know you can alter the Gyros Mid-flight. And now you tell me I can reset level in the air!!! I need to really read up on the Vector. What else am I missing??? Anyway, loved it. Keep the video's coming.
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah there is a lot of things the Vector can do that makes it easier to get tuned up well. I really recommend downloading the latest manual and reading it over. It will explain everything in detail. It's a lot to take in, but once you start using some of these features it all comes together. ;)
@foamaxmore
@foamaxmore 8 жыл бұрын
Hi BFP been flying some time now and anxious to do FPV long range soon. Excellent flight path window, scenery and weather you have there.Nice setup!!!.Your doing my dream, here I have lots of trees in foreground makes it difficult ...would dragon link cut through it and wondering if it would be better for you to install uhf antenna outside of your shop for better reception?Are your videos antennas inside or out?Very good equipment too.Have fun..Cheers
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
The lower frequency 433MHz signal will penetrate the trees better than your video signal will. I'm betting you'll lose video before control. I don't really notice much difference with my DL antenna outside or inside. Raising and lowering it makes a noticeable difference though. Just mounting it high on a tripod allows me to fly a lot lower while farther out than mounting it low on my radio. My video antennas are outside on tripods.
@foamaxmore
@foamaxmore 8 жыл бұрын
OK,BFP thanks for the reply and Happy Flying!
@foamaxmore
@foamaxmore 8 жыл бұрын
How do you figure your return battery power remaining on RTL and what is a good size battery for more than 20min flights? I know the wind can affect return power.
@SuperCatshit1
@SuperCatshit1 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for helping me get involved with LRFPV with your channel. Quick question, with the pan/tilt camera, whats your indication on the OSD/FPV that the camera is centered forward after moving it around? Thanks for your time.
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
There is no indicator on the OSD. On my radio there's a little detent at the center on the sliders which makes it easy to find center. On my old Futaba radios they would beep when the slider was centered, which worked OK but I like the detents better on the Taranis that I'm using now.
@SuperCatshit1
@SuperCatshit1 8 жыл бұрын
Got it, thank you for the reply.
@sparkey044
@sparkey044 8 жыл бұрын
Don't set thru many videos this long, but I do yours.. Really enjoyed it and congrats on the PB
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
@JustinGarciaIndustries
@JustinGarciaIndustries 8 жыл бұрын
very nice. thoroughly enjoyed and thanks for the "setup".
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words!
@shlllong
@shlllong 8 жыл бұрын
Excellent mate I'm gonna go through some of the links you got there. I gotta get some more range.
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Let me know if I missed any links, I think I got them all though... lol
@Hendretti
@Hendretti 8 жыл бұрын
Running the power from the trainer port to the dragon link, Do you find the Dragonlink is slightly under powered? What does your radio put out at the trainer port? 10 miles with the antenna inside your building was impressive. great flight.
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
I used a Futaba 10CAP on this flight, with it connected to the trainer port. The radio supplies the battery voltage to the Dragonlink, I use a 3S Lipo in the radio. (A Turnigy 1C 2650 made for transmitters) The Dragonlink should operate just fine on 5-18V, and changing the input voltage shouldn't change the RF output, at least not withing that normal range.
@TheAdkFlyer10
@TheAdkFlyer10 8 жыл бұрын
Is there much loss in db when using an extension cable to your tx antenna? I've seen 2 schools of thought on this. Thanks! Love your channel. Fergy
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
There probably is some measurable loss in the cable, but I haven't been able to tell the difference. Even if it does reduce the signal, getting the antenna up in a better location is enough to overcome it. It definitely performs better with the short extension and antenna mounted higher up, then with the antenna down on the desk on my radio. I know some other flyers use the same cable/magnetic mount to fly from inside their car in the winter. In that case, having the antenna on the roof of the car which acts as a nice ground plane is another benefit.
@TheAdkFlyer10
@TheAdkFlyer10 8 жыл бұрын
bonafidepirate Thanks! Good stuff!
@theinnocent714
@theinnocent714 5 жыл бұрын
Im guessing ur probably using a 2.4 to 433 repeater by now for convenience? No more wires from tx...
@BanniUKfpv
@BanniUKfpv 8 жыл бұрын
awesome vid dude :) did u tune the vector or is that stock really
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
It's pretty close to stock. I've adjusted the gains a little, but just the basic gain, not anything in the advanced menu (PIDs etc.)
@BanniUKfpv
@BanniUKfpv 8 жыл бұрын
thanks :) i think im going to get one
@dangthisstupidpasswo
@dangthisstupidpasswo 6 жыл бұрын
bonafidepirate would you share your gains settings? I’ve tried tuning with little success. Thanks
@kerrycorcoran4885
@kerrycorcoran4885 6 жыл бұрын
At the start of your video you show that you have power, audio and video leads converted to an ethernet cable. Do you simply use a single wire for each?
@MichaelPipes101
@MichaelPipes101 6 жыл бұрын
Yes because acquiring minds would like to know! I think he’s using a single wire but using the Ethernet for the length plus it’s cheaper!
@jetrg12
@jetrg12 5 жыл бұрын
I have not yet been able to cruise at 5amps although I have same motor/prop/battery, I placed my CG a bit behind the stock CG marks I am wondering if this is producing some ineffeciency, I remember the first flights at stock CG the plane had tendency to lose altitude in 2D mode
@SHAWZY1973
@SHAWZY1973 8 жыл бұрын
Hi Keith, another great informative video... just ordered a mini talon for my next project and have a question with regards to the pan and tilt you are using.. how does it compare with the fpv gadgets propan or the propan 2?? Many thanks in advance Dave
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
I like this printed one since it allows me to look straight down over the nose of the plane. It's also a bit smaller and lighter than the Propans. It's probably not as durable, and you don't get ball bearings on the tilt, and you have to have access to a printer (or a friend to do you a favor! lol) but it does cost a lot less. So there's positives for both. If you're looking for more tilt range and don't mind a bit of DIY and tweaking to get it working well, the printed one will suit you. If you don't need to look straight down and want something ready to go with minimal work and don't mind paying for it, Propan!
@RobisonRacing68
@RobisonRacing68 4 жыл бұрын
This is the exact same sound as on the SpaceX launch I just watched... LOL! It actually sounds kinda cool. ;)
@JakeBullit123
@JakeBullit123 8 жыл бұрын
Great setup.I see you always fly well inside your UHF limit,but why not put the UHF on the roof? Do you ever go mobile and fly for a change of scenery?
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
I haven't flown in a different location in years, it's too easy to walk out the back door and go fly... lol I thought about putting the UHF antenna on the roof, along with my video antennas. I just haven't needed to yet though. The main reason I haven't bothered is I like to keep them in out of the weather when not in use. I've considered ways to quickly get them up and down when I need to, but again, just haven't bothered yet.
@robertpayne9282
@robertpayne9282 8 жыл бұрын
thank you so much for putting this video together. very interesting!
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@dwang085
@dwang085 8 жыл бұрын
awesome. Loved the narration
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@twinturbostang
@twinturbostang 8 жыл бұрын
Very cool. Love the commentary. You get good GPS lock even with 1280 video. What's the separation between GPS Rx and vid Tx? Do you use any notch filters?
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
My video receiver and antenna are on the left wing, about where the aileron stops, not quite all the way out on the end. The GPS receiver is on the top of the fuselage behind the top hatch, in the little recessed area. I don't use any filters or anything like that. I'm using 800mW on 1258MHz. I haven't had any issues with GPS lock yet. Even my Skyhunter with a 1500mW vtx in the wing, and the GPS receiver in the fuselage locks fast.
@jetrg12
@jetrg12 7 жыл бұрын
Bonafide, I see you have gone through the skyhunter, skywalker and now this mini talon frames, which one would you advise me as a mid to long range fpv plane? I like the 1.2m wingspan of the mini talon but it seems to fly amd land fast
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 7 жыл бұрын
Any one of them will serve you well. The Skywalker is slow, but very easy flying. The Skyhunter is a great plane all around, it's more responsive than the Skywalker, and can fly a little faster, but still fun and easy to fly. The Mini Talon is faster than the others, and super efficient. Also smaller and the wing comes right off in two pieces, much much easier to transport in a car or something like that. It is a little harder to launch, but nothing real bad, just needs a good throw every time. ;) It also stalls at a faster speed, it comes in fast and needs more runway to land. It's not a bad flying little plane at all though, and handles wind better than the others, especially the Skywalker. The SW is like a big kite in the wind... lol
@Flyznflyz
@Flyznflyz 8 жыл бұрын
How do you set link quality when using a v2 rx? My rssi out of the v2 rx is from the rssi port then into the rssi in on the Vector and it looks lke Vector is looking for the rssi to come in on the ppm stream so you can assign a ch to it in the Vector gui so it can give link quality. But the rssi on the v2 rx is on it's own port,how did you set yours up (wait,are you using a v2 rx in there you know the full size ones).?
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
I'm using a micro rx in mine. My last flight was actually with the Dragonlink V3, but all the flights before that were V2. I do have the RSSI in the PPM stream in the Mini Talon just to simplify the wiring a bit more. I have the larger 12CH receiver in my Skyhunter though, and use the regular analog RSSI on that one. In the Vector, you can select which channel RSSI is on if it's in the PPM stream, or if you use analog RSSI it will detect it when you run the RC wizard. Just make sure you have the RSSI ran from you receiver to the RSSI port on the Vector before running the Wizard. You can run it again to pick it up if you've already ran the wizard before, just make sure all your trims, throws, and channel reversing are set up right, as the Vector will of course re-learn all that as well. ;) I've forgotten and ran the wizard with low rates on, and it messed up my throws and things in different flights modes.
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
Oh one more thing, with the Dragonlink, you'll get RSSI, and not what the Vector calls "Link quality", which is pretty much based on lost packets. The RSSI is based on signal strength.
@Flyznflyz
@Flyznflyz 8 жыл бұрын
Ahh the micro rx,i see! Thanks for pointing out the miliamps/dist used i didn't even know the Vector had that,got it on the screen now! My last flight on the MT i got 158 mah/mi.
@bobuilt3199
@bobuilt3199 8 жыл бұрын
Hey when soldiering the SMA connector to the Yagi. Does it change the freq if you soldier the center portion of the coax a little to far up the board.Say about a quarter of an inch. does it need to be right at the tip ?
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
That I can't help with, I really have no idea. It may or may not, and if it does I'm not sure how much effect it has. Your best bet would be to ask Kent, the guy that makes the antenna. www.wa5vjb.com/contact.html
@bobuilt3199
@bobuilt3199 8 жыл бұрын
Thank You very much. It works. I have tried it on the receiver, I was just wondering if it needed to be exact. Happy Thanksgiving and a great Hoilday season
@DrFrantic77
@DrFrantic77 8 жыл бұрын
great flight
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@noell2327
@noell2327 3 жыл бұрын
Greaser landing 😎
@blackbirdboy1
@blackbirdboy1 8 жыл бұрын
I watched the MT set-up video, you had the 400mw VTX in for that, but you stated you were going to swap it out for the 800. Was this flight with the 400 or 800mw? The reason I ask is my friend has gone and got a 1500mw 1280vtx to go with EzUHF Radio Link. Is he going to have problems with a VTX that powerful on a Mini Talon? i.e is the VTX going to swamp the Radio Link?
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
This is the 800. I have a 1500 on my Skyhunter and haven't had any problems with it. As long as he keeps the antennas separated a reasonable amount it should be fine. I haven't used EzUHF, but I've never had an issue with a vtx knocking out Dragonlink. I have run into problems getting a GPS lock on a quad with a 1.2/1.3 vtx too close to it though.
@blackbirdboy1
@blackbirdboy1 8 жыл бұрын
bonafidepirate I'm considering going UHF myself this year. I recon it will need around $1000 all in for the antenna's & Tx's Eagle Eyes Rx's to put in 2 planes. but I could save a fair bit by using EZUHF instead if DragonLink. I know it's the best though, so I only want to buy ONCE!!!
@axiomNES
@axiomNES 7 жыл бұрын
Do you run a separate battery for your VTX? I got a MT on sale from BG and I am trying to decide how to power the VTX.
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 7 жыл бұрын
No, everything runs off the main pack. The vTX in mine gets power from the Vector, which regulates it to 12V and filters motor noise out of it. In other planes with different flight controller / OSD setups, I've used a Sepic type regulator to tap power from the main pack and power the FPV gear. The Vector just makes it easier. ;)
@axiomNES
@axiomNES 7 жыл бұрын
Okay. I will be running a Pixhawk. I guess it worth it to pay a premium for the vector!
@MrAquasean
@MrAquasean 8 жыл бұрын
Great video! What do you use on your radio to pan and tilt the camera?
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
I use the sliders on the side, or paddles, whatever they're called.
@mikeman230
@mikeman230 5 жыл бұрын
Confused how heading hold maintains altitude ? Assume it must be trimmed for level flight but how does it maintain efficient glide path without stalling? Great system. I am building first inav plane so I am on the steep learning curve.
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 5 жыл бұрын
2DH mode holds heading and altitude. I have it set to disable altitude hold below a certain amp draw, so when the motor is off it ignores altitude and just holds attitude on pitch, keeps it level. It still maintains heading, but lets the plane glide and descend as the airspeed drops. It attempts to keep the plane level on pitch axis but with the gains and how the PID loop works it actually lets the nose drop a few degrees and holds it there, which works out well for the glide.
@robertasjuscius1092
@robertasjuscius1092 7 жыл бұрын
A question about the dragonlink uhf antenna extension? How much signal strenght it losses on this lenght of cable? Is it noticible?and can you provide "opek" antenna model name ? Mostly i'm building same setup like yours :) maybe i'm gona post a video about it :).. many thanks for you.
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 7 жыл бұрын
It's the OPEK AM-110-SMA, there is a link to it under the video. I haven't seen any loss in performance. If there's any loss in the cable, having the antenna mounted higher up is more than making up for it. ;) I find I have better RSSI levels when flying far/low using the wall mounted antenna, than when I hold the radio/antenna down behind the monitors at my desk.
@robertasjuscius1092
@robertasjuscius1092 7 жыл бұрын
bonafidepirate superb. Thank you.
@andberge
@andberge 8 жыл бұрын
Nice setup. Thanks for a very informative video.
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@divingstraightup82
@divingstraightup82 8 жыл бұрын
hi, can you tell me exactly, what cable type you connect your Tx to that uhf antennae up there on the wall? greatly appreciated 😊
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
It's the magnetic antenna mount linked below the video. It uses RG-174/U cable.
@divingstraightup82
@divingstraightup82 8 жыл бұрын
thank you :)
@jamble7k
@jamble7k 8 жыл бұрын
good tip on the clips for the dl box, i've just got mine stuck on with velcro :D
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah I like these little clips. They have worked well for me so far.
@konstantinosgdontakis9097
@konstantinosgdontakis9097 7 жыл бұрын
Hi there really nice video ,one question how did you set the vector to disable altitude hold under 2 amps ??? thanks
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 7 жыл бұрын
There's an option somewhere in the software, or maybe it's in the stick menus (or both), I don't have the info in front of me right now to see. If you can't find it and I don't reply again, remind me and I'll look when I'm at home. ;)
@twinturbostang
@twinturbostang 8 жыл бұрын
On the launch in 2D mode, do you just hold a little bit of up elevator and let the Vector do the rest?
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
twinturbostang Yeah pretty much, I actually have a mix in my transmitter that puts a bit of up elevator with a switch so I don't have to hold it.
@twinturbostang
@twinturbostang 8 жыл бұрын
Very cool. I wasn't sure if that disabled the 2D mode or not. Some modes I think are disabled if you move the sticks. Maybe that's just RTH though.
@josepuga6245
@josepuga6245 8 жыл бұрын
Great video as always....!!!! Just a quick question what kind of video tx are you using on you new plane.
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
I have a 800mW 1.3GHz transmitter from Ready Made R/C, with a FPVPro dipole antenna. I have the US version of the transmitter that has 1280 and 1258MHz channels. I use 1258.
@tabdougherty8549
@tabdougherty8549 5 жыл бұрын
WOW!! What a great vid and beautiful scenery I just received my mini Talon, I sure wish i had your set up or actually your location I am in eastern WA in the city. I would give anything to launch from my back yard and just fly. Great work super impressive keep it up. P.S. thought i was subed. I am now, and really like what you are doing
@dan2384
@dan2384 7 жыл бұрын
im flying the mini T with the vector. what is it in min 11:55?
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 7 жыл бұрын
You mean "Level settings saved"? I reset level in flight, you can do it in the air when the plane is level to set it, rather than landing, settings, flying again, etc. 5 toggles of the mode switch will trigger it. The manual for the Vector goes into a little more detail, but that's pretty much it. Make sure the plane is flying straight and level, toggle the mode switch 5 times, and the Vector will re-level the gyros, or at least re-save the level setting. You'll see the AHI on screen should match the actual horizon more closely.
@kerrycorcoran4885
@kerrycorcoran4885 6 жыл бұрын
@bonafidepirate, cool setup. Could you do a video, split screen, showing how you launch outside, power off the transmitter, disconnect and reconnect inside? I think I understand, but not 100% sure. Hoping if I can see you go through the steps it'll make sense.
@JasonKyzer
@JasonKyzer 8 жыл бұрын
thanks for posting this! what gimbal are you using for the camera?
@mdcbert
@mdcbert 5 жыл бұрын
just to be clear, this was in "feet" for elevation and "MPH" for speed? Most of these vids I see are metric, and 47 mph seems kinda fast for an RC plane..
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 5 жыл бұрын
I'm in the US and use imperial unites. It's miles and feet. 47mph isn't fast for this plane, it's efficient. This one as it is will easily handle over 100mph in a descent, the airframe with enough power will do that in level flight. 67mph seems fast for an old bust too! ;)
@lachezarkrastev7123
@lachezarkrastev7123 7 жыл бұрын
Great setup!
@madsloper
@madsloper 8 жыл бұрын
Nice video as usual; is the speed GPS or Airspeed? What's the stall speed for the mini talon?
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
It's GPS speed, I don't have an air speed sensor on this one. I may add one later though. The stall speed seems to be around 20-22mph for this one. The weight is a bit under 1600g, if I remember right it was 1574g.
@madsloper
@madsloper 8 жыл бұрын
l'll probably will pick one up and give it a go. Thank buddy, keep 'm flyin.
@dan2384
@dan2384 7 жыл бұрын
what do you think about the wa5vjb yagi? do you still use it?
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 7 жыл бұрын
Yep, every time I fly on 1280 or 1258 now, I use it along side the patch just because I have both. Honestly I'd be fine for pretty much all the normal flying I do with either antenna.
@RetroRick65
@RetroRick65 8 жыл бұрын
What motor are you running? The stock PNP one?
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
It's a 2216 1250kv Sunnysky. There's a video with all the details on the plane linked below this video, in the description.
@AlamDias
@AlamDias 8 жыл бұрын
The best vídeo on youtube ! Aewsome. Cheers from Brasil man... i'm you fan !
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@edmoreno9308
@edmoreno9308 7 жыл бұрын
what are your thoughts on the pepper box antenna from Getfpv?
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 7 жыл бұрын
Personally I never saw much benefit to using circular polarization on 1.2/1.3 video. I understand the theory and can't argue with it, and it definitely works well on higher frequencies. It's just in practice, I didn't see a ton of improvement, if any most of the time. I couldn't justify the increased cost. Maybe if you were flying in an area where multipathing was killing your video it would work well, but the lower frequency tends to penetrate much better through most objects/vegetation, so it reflects off things less too. Those reflections are what causes multipath, and that's what circular really works best to fix. One other scenario where circular might be more beneficial is if you're flying with a buddy and stepping on each others video, running right hand polarization on one rig and left on the other would help them "ignore" the other signal better. For me though, flying alone out in the country with no other signals present, and not a lot of surfaces around to reflect the video signal, linear has proven the better option.
@edmoreno9308
@edmoreno9308 7 жыл бұрын
i wish I would've asked sooner because I just bought a pepper box. I'll give ti a try, most of my set up is close to yours. I'll make sure I watch the rest of your videos, it looks like you can save me some money. Thanks!
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 7 жыл бұрын
Try it and see what you think! It may work wonders in your area... lol There's so many factors at play when it comes to RF signals. For what it's worth, I never used a pepperbox or even a crosshair, I only used a helical with similar gain to the patch I was comparing it to. In the air I used 3 lobe cloverleaf and 4 lobe skew planar wheel antennas.
@callaghan48
@callaghan48 8 жыл бұрын
Great video, very informative thanks.
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad it helps!
@protoolsfanatic7276
@protoolsfanatic7276 5 жыл бұрын
if you slow the speed down to .25 starting about 9:28 you can see the biggest dragonfly ive ever seen lol. i wonder how hard it would be to make a full wave length antenna for the band you are on.
@armenschrader3359
@armenschrader3359 8 жыл бұрын
Can you give me (us) an idea of what the setup you used would cost to put together?
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
It's hard to say really. You'd have to put together a list of everything and get current prices for it all. It would be a lot to start from scratch though, all at once. Most people tend to start simple/cheap then build up from there over time. If I put a definite price on everything in that little shop right now I would probably tell you I was nuts... haha
@joe0932
@joe0932 8 жыл бұрын
I love your setup! I hope one day I can have such a nice setup! :D
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@aitorarregui2973
@aitorarregui2973 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your explanations!! Greetings!
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I hope it helps someone, I often get questions about my setup and this should answer most of them about the ground stuff... lol
@EnglishTurbines
@EnglishTurbines 8 жыл бұрын
Congrats on your new PB m8...:)....20 Miles on 3000mah....LOL....I think we should inform Greenpeace...:)...Can you remember which VRX antenna it prefered 10 miles out..?.....8 dbi Patch or the compact Yagi Panel..? I just read the Yagi Spec, it's centred on 1280mhz..Just right for me..:)
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
The diversity seems to stick on the yagi most of the time. I looked when I turned back at 10 miles, it was on the yagi. That said, in the past flights where I've been using them both, I'm manually selected one or the other and haven't seen much difference in the signal quality. If one is bad, they're both bad. If one is good, so is the other... lol I would say this little antenna is a cheap alternative to the patch. One of these days I will do a more formal and direct comparison. Right now though, I can certainly say it's worth the price, and would even work mounted directly on some goggles since it's small and light, relative to the larger patch.
@EnglishTurbines
@EnglishTurbines 8 жыл бұрын
+bonafidepirate Yes, Im liking how compact the Yagi is myself...I love my 8 dbi Patch but this Yagi is quite a bit smaller. I really like my Patch though, as the beam width to fly in is extremely wide, which is nice because I dont need a Tracker....As for the Yagi, I would like to see how wide the beam on it is and side lobes if it has them? I see the Yagi is made in Texas..!!!...and yes, I have been there myself some years back..had some great Steaks while I was out there.....!!!.....:)....I ordered a 1280 Yagi using your link....$16 delivered...:)
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
I haven't actually tested it, so this is just theory, but this little yagi is relatively low gain, slightly lower than the patch even. It's lower gain than most yagi antennas. I'm assuming that translates to a relatively wide gain too, and not so narrow like high gain yagis. As for side lobes, I have no idea... lol I'd like to see a plot made for these, but I don't have the equipment to do it. I'm just a humble FPV pilot... lol
@EnglishTurbines
@EnglishTurbines 8 жыл бұрын
+bonafidepirate Yes, I agree...I imagine it would perform fairly well behind as well as in front compared to the Patch..A bit like a Dipole but directional maybe..?....Anyway, at $16 delivered I ordered one last night and within the hour it was posted..!!!!...LOL... $10 Delivery charge to UK. I want to make my 1280 relay Module a bit smaller if I can, Im already using the compact Lawmate VRX..Do you still have the 400mw vtx on the Talon..?....Like you to fly the Yagi on its own if possible....Thanks...:)
@twinturbostang
@twinturbostang 8 жыл бұрын
I think you have the space to test the beam width. You could do some East-West flights with both antennas pointing due South, and then compare them.
@theinnocent714
@theinnocent714 5 жыл бұрын
Wish eagle tree would make an antenna tracker like the aarbird...
@youpattube1
@youpattube1 6 жыл бұрын
Do you not have a patreon deal set up ?
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 6 жыл бұрын
I do in fact... lol I had set one up a little while back but never did anything with it since I didn't feel right "asking for money" without having much to offer in return. By that I mean something to offer exclusively to paterons. That said, I did just add the link to the end of my videos' descriptions. Thanks for the interest! www.patreon.com/bonafidepirate
@nivasylstrongman4352
@nivasylstrongman4352 5 жыл бұрын
where are you? state?
@chrisf5475
@chrisf5475 7 жыл бұрын
i really want that yagi but cant find one one for shipping to the uk : (
@KB5RYE
@KB5RYE 7 жыл бұрын
You can get the yagi in this video from Kent Electronics, wa5vjb.com. They do ship to the UK for $13.
@poppopscarvinshop
@poppopscarvinshop 5 жыл бұрын
Very, Very Impressive!! Thanks Much!
@rotormasher
@rotormasher 8 жыл бұрын
Amazing, thanks for sharing. Great flying!
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Without people enjoying my videos I wouldn't be making them! lol
@lachezarkrastev7123
@lachezarkrastev7123 7 жыл бұрын
What is your CG of the mini talon?
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 7 жыл бұрын
Right on the main spar
@lachezarkrastev7123
@lachezarkrastev7123 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@rcnoob573
@rcnoob573 8 жыл бұрын
Wich of the specs is is your osd ?
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
The OSD is an Eagle Tree Vector, it's an excellent OSD and flight controller! I like it a lot.
@ThailandAmazing
@ThailandAmazing 7 жыл бұрын
That's kinda beyond me. To designate a building for that. Real cool
@SzymekCRX
@SzymekCRX 5 жыл бұрын
perfect!
@wdlong01
@wdlong01 8 жыл бұрын
great video
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@alexandrpetrov1110
@alexandrpetrov1110 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@evertonms2024
@evertonms2024 8 жыл бұрын
@bonafidepirate : You know some diference in VECTOR mini X normal VECTOR?
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
I know there is a few little things missing in the small one, like the audio features. There was some others too, but I forget what they are.
@sweetieinsf
@sweetieinsf 8 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@StigBSivertsen
@StigBSivertsen 8 жыл бұрын
awesome
@soapbubblesx
@soapbubblesx 8 жыл бұрын
Savage! :D
@ThailandAmazing
@ThailandAmazing 7 жыл бұрын
Wow
@justinx1480
@justinx1480 4 жыл бұрын
My whole medium range mini talon setup cost me under 400 so it's quite weird for me to watch this with easily 3k worth of equipment
@reindalehill7713
@reindalehill7713 8 жыл бұрын
Niiice
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@mdcbert
@mdcbert 5 жыл бұрын
also, why dont you people take off from a runway, like for realism, as if tiny people were on board?
@bonafidepirate
@bonafidepirate 5 жыл бұрын
Scale realism was nowhere on the agenda for this build... ;)
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