Out of the box, the Echelon is superior. Not a knock on Glock, but the Echelon has what every manufacturer should be putting on their pistols. Direct universal optic mounting system, texture all around, fantastic slide serrations, decent trigger, tritium sights and thumb rests. I understand that Glock is king when it comes to aftermarket support, but the Echelon doesn't really need a lot. Sure, more trigger upgrades would be nice, but it's not necessary.
@jdontcare852024 күн бұрын
@Chickenloven , you're clearly biased. It's okay if you don't like Springfield, but HS Produkt makes reliable and durable firearms. Also, just because it's made in America doesn't mean it's great. I guess you think Hi Point, Jiminez and SCCY are better than HK, CZ and Walther 😅
@cluckbent646621 күн бұрын
springfield sucks
@jdontcare852021 күн бұрын
@@cluckbent6466 , another hater 🤣
@Rubeless21 күн бұрын
Or someone that has dealt with Springfields customer service after purchasing one of their products.
@jdontcare852021 күн бұрын
@@Rubeless , could be, but I doubt it. I'm not going to defend Springfield, but I've owned 4 different pistols from HS Produkt and they have been very reliable, especially the Echelon.
@JeffG-x2q17 күн бұрын
The Echelon is a masterpiece. Best pistol Springfield/HS has ever put out. I like glocks too and have several, but the Echelon is something else entirely.
@gregbutler685126 күн бұрын
Better comparison would be the G17 gen5 mos but in every way the Echelon is better. As a matter of fact I’ve upgraded my SHTF from the G17 to the Echelon.
@Perkeletricksterservantofrher25 күн бұрын
thats just dumb. more parts for the glick
@Rubeless21 күн бұрын
Another shtf believer.
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@Deevel792 күн бұрын
I have purchased a fair amount of both Glocks and Springfields. While both were always reliable, I just felt that the Springfield build quality is superior to Glock. I have since sold my G19/43/43x. I kept my Springfield XDS mod 2/XD-3/Hellcat. I have zero regrets with my decision.
@barrydraper20 күн бұрын
The Echelon is clearly the better, vastly superior weapon, in every way. Love my G19, 5th gen MOS, but I don't drink the Kool Aid. I've shot the Echelon quite a bit, although I don't own one (yet). I do however, own other Croatian made Springfields. Glock is a very solid choice, but it's not necessarily the best. I'd keep both of these. No need to choose.
@Mk47Ultra22 күн бұрын
It’s really all psychological, for the last 30 years all other polymer guns under 600$ sucked except for the Glock, the USP was superior but it was a grand and nobody wanted to pay a grand for a plastic gun, and since all other polymer pistols sucked Glock gained this reputation but the reality was the XD was just as reliable since the early 2000s but since 100s of other polymer guns had sucked nobody would have believed the xd was equal, now the echelon is the most superior but unfortunately so many people have been conditioned to think Glock is the best and since sig who made the best metal frame gun the 226 came out with a very subpar p320 most people would find it hard to believe a Random Croatian gun would be any better, so in a way all this crap from more brand name manufacturers has caused people to not believe Hs product is capable of such quality, it’s simply not true, the echelon is not only a Glock killer but any 9mm pistol killer so far in 2024 it is the best in every way possible. And nobody will believe it until it’s too late and discontinued years down the road, with the economy the dumb younger generation gun designers taking over I can confidently say the echelon will prolly be humanities best attempt at a polymer gun. Even hs product will have a impossible task outdoing the echelon. If this was made from a brand name manufacturer it would have been priced $1500+ .as expected most people will just complain I talked too much and come up with their own excuses and that’s the human heard mentality so who cares buy whatever you want makes no difference on me
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@waywardwest24 күн бұрын
Yeah, I'd take the Echelon every single time.
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@robbyharris682725 күн бұрын
Shot the new Echelon Comp before released, and it worked fine but not going to replace my Glock. Because not worth changing my Glock gear etc. and not worth necessary training to adopt different platform. Summary, nothing wrong with Echelon if one is starting out or coming from previous versions.
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@jamiedees822320 күн бұрын
The only thing I changed on my Echelon was the ambi mag release. When carrying it the mag release kept getting hit when sitting down in my car because the mag release would hit my seat belt latch on my seat and release the magazine without me knowing it. Later I’d find my gun without a mag. That could cost me my life. So I bought the Apex reversible mag release and no more issues. I wish they come out with a compact version of Echelon because I don’t like carrying full size pistols. Compacts are great, but full size is usually a bit long in the grip for my preference for carry.
@RichMRamos7 күн бұрын
I love the Glocks and completely agree that they're extremely reliable. With that said, ever since I purchased the Echelon, it has become my favorite. Love how it feels in my hand and the ergonomics are a vast improvement over the Glock, imho. They recently came out with the Echelon 4.0C, a compact model. If I didn't already have the Hellcat Pro, I'd definitely get the new 4.0C mainly for the ergonomics over the Hellcat Pro. Springfield is really upping their game!
@PPD191127 күн бұрын
The Glock was the cats meow for a long time, but there’s a number of choices coming out with triggers better than glocks aftermarket. Love the echelons grip ergonomics better,
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@DaveJackalope27 күн бұрын
Tend to stick with Glocks no matter what. If I were fixing to blow some money out of boredom I’d try the echelon. Looks like they put a lot of thought into it.
@ThomasSimmons-j9l20 күн бұрын
It's junk I brought one. Hate it.
@TechNHC20 күн бұрын
@@ThomasSimmons-j9l why do you hate it and why you say it’s junk? Tell me 3 pistols better than the echelon at the same price point.
@ThomasSimmons-j9l20 күн бұрын
@TechNHC PDP GLOCK MP
@TechNHC20 күн бұрын
@@ThomasSimmons-j9l pdp damn that’s a good one, love mines and that trigger is different. Can’t agree with the Glock being a better pistol. I haven’t shot the Smith MP yet, But we have our opinions.
@DaveJackalope20 күн бұрын
@@TechNHC can’t agree with Glock being a better pistol than what?
@RBMD2A27 күн бұрын
I have both. I am not a Glock fan, but I own 3. The Echelon is the first HS Product that I have liked. I had open their VIS would become widespread
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@cland918926 күн бұрын
@RBMD2A yes you are and it’s ok.
@sdot126124 күн бұрын
4 bros has a nice iwb holster for the Echelon, changed my frame to a small, waiting for companies to come out with different site options
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@Now_or_Never_77710 күн бұрын
A new shiny toy vs a proven tool.
@bobyjones39056 күн бұрын
Never had a problem with the magazines on my echelon
@billtaylor165627 күн бұрын
I have both don't mind either
@BoomStickTactical27 күн бұрын
They're both great guns
@jamiedees822320 күн бұрын
The only magazine issue with the Echelon that Ive heard was the extended baseplate design causing the baseplate to fly off suddenly. Springfield had remedied that issue from what I’ve heard. I’ve never heard of an actual issue with the magazine itself though, but I’ve saw the extended baseplates fail multiple times on different magazines causing them to come off and launch all the bullets and mag spring due to the design.
@bobyjones39056 күн бұрын
Not the design the magazine was assembled incorrectly in some cases
@bpowa2 күн бұрын
Both my echelon and g45 shoots great. Echelon is a smoother gun out the box. Trigger is a bit mushy and sometimes I don't feel a reset its very faint. I hate the u notch sight and may just black it out. If I had to carry either. I would pick the glock after shooting back to back a couple hundred rounds each. Neigher had a single malfunction so far. .
@johnnyc806523 күн бұрын
Echelon all day, everyday
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@johndeere1951a23 күн бұрын
My favorite ? In this category? Glock 17 L
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@DarkPhoenixTSi22 күн бұрын
The Echelon uses Sig P series sight cuts, so anything for a P320 or P22X series will work.
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@ShenryRNBSN11 күн бұрын
Even Glock guys like the Echelon. I carry a 19 but the Echelon might make the range stable
@IFBBPRO626 күн бұрын
Springfield didn’t get them worked out people installed them wrong
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@timothybryant28989 күн бұрын
No they absolutely had a problem with the early extended baseplates as I found myself in possession of two of them. After contacting Springfield they sent me the updated design and I've had no problems since.
@mauricehardy501212 күн бұрын
Glock was a good base model times change and the echelon is what the Glock should have been
@kentoncarter110323 күн бұрын
If you’re buying a polymer frame gun you really want a Glock. Don’t cheat yourself treat yourself.
@BoomStickTactical23 күн бұрын
If you're going to spend the money, yes you should get what you want
@Oneproblemme10126 күн бұрын
That thing is a unit compared to the 19
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@Brett23513 күн бұрын
To me it's about what the gun costs and what I'm getting for my money. The echelon comes with more useful features right out of the box than Glock for the same money. If it is as reliable why would I buy the Glock? It's like the canik brand. Canik is as reliable as Glock, has a better trigger, more features and comes with more in the box than Glock for about $100 less in most cases. I'm very frugal and practical so the echelon makes better financial sense.
@NinerspiritGoBlue20 күн бұрын
I thought all gen 5 had the serrations on each end of the gun. Yours does not have them. It looks like I was wrong.
@BoomStickTactical20 күн бұрын
The early models of gen 5 didn't have them
@rodneyobrien462422 күн бұрын
Shouldn’t this video be the Echlon vs the Glock 17??
@BoomStickTactical21 күн бұрын
I've compared it to a few different guns. This is just one more.
@oleboy761525 күн бұрын
The shocking truth? 😂 So the Glock 19 is the best combat pistol ever made. The Echelon is a nice pistol, and it will do well for anyone who wants it, but it does not trump the Glock 19. The more relevant comparison is the Glock 17.
@Brett23513 күн бұрын
Glock is not the best combat pistol ever made.. SMH Glock is the cheapest pistol that won the contract. They work, that's about it. There's a reason why everyone that buy Glock always changes at least the sights, most likely they'll change the trigger, slide, add grip tape and get slide cuts. Canik makes better guns than Glock, and yes caniks are used in military units and law enforcement just not here in the United States.
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@bionichustla1007 сағат бұрын
Echelon better 🙄
@oleboy76157 сағат бұрын
@ No…it’s not.
@oleboy76157 сағат бұрын
@@Brett235 Spoken like a well uninformed person.
@jimbobborg2226 күн бұрын
I'd think this was a stock versus stock comparison, so why are you showing stock sights on that SA and aftermarket sights for the Glock?
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@28Knuckles25 күн бұрын
Springfield will do everything but release a compact version
@davdcl49925 күн бұрын
They don't wanna step on the Hellcat.
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@ozzyosbourne82625 күн бұрын
Batman lol. Dongle lol!
@ozzyosbourne82625 күн бұрын
Dongle lol
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@SaintTaris19 күн бұрын
There can be only 1. Or 19
@BoomStickTactical18 күн бұрын
Those are amature numbers. You need to bump those numbers up
@regondi26 күн бұрын
Echelon is a far supper pistol to the Glock. That being said I carry a Sig LOL
@DaveJackalope26 күн бұрын
What sig?!?
@ryanranard518725 күн бұрын
Superior? Lol no way
@BoomStickTactical25 күн бұрын
I just wish it was easier to get replacement sights and holsters.
@OceansBane24 күн бұрын
@@BoomStickTactical lols in glonk. 😂
@charles1750826 күн бұрын
Id take glock 19 and if you put what i use for aftermarket things to put on no one would choose a Springfield.
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@kentoncarter110323 күн бұрын
😂😂😂this guy is fud my comped 43x out shoots the Springfield. With the infinite aftermarket Glocks have like the addition of a folding wing, comp, super nice magwell, direct to slide optic, custom Johnny Glock trigger, Glock internals , 40oz weight , aftermarket holster. That big ash echelon doesn’t stand a chance.
@BoomStickTactical23 күн бұрын
That's your preference but if you read through the comments you will see several people who prefer the springfield
@kentoncarter110323 күн бұрын
@ yeah all the other FUDS
@Rubeless21 күн бұрын
People that hate Glocks are the same as those with TDS. It’s a gun, you don’t have to buy or comment on something you don’t “like”.
@TechNHC20 күн бұрын
@@kentoncarter1103 yea with extra $800 maybe more you just put on a 400 dollar Glock yea the echelon still has a chance 😂😂😂😂😂
@kentoncarter110320 күн бұрын
@ the point is they don’t make the upgrades for the echelon even if you didn’t want to upgrade.
@FOB22618 сағат бұрын
Echelon all day every day! Glock is dead to me now!
@BoomStickTactical11 сағат бұрын
Glock will always be around. The Echelon is another great gun
@FOB22610 сағат бұрын
@BoomStickTactical People, including myself have settled for no innovation from Glock! He'll ya have to add an additiona $125 for decent sights. I own 9. If I could sell 7 of them in one shot I certainly would.
@DaveF-m6nСағат бұрын
@@FOB226dissing Glock is just plain ignorant.
@MarleyOlivo3 күн бұрын
I love this tiny guns
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@woodystube100023 күн бұрын
These two pistols aren’t really a good comparison. The Echelon is a large frame pistol with a ton of useful features. The Glock is the ugly, overweight girl in college that you only call because you know she’ll go bang, guaranteed.
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@woodystube10003 күн бұрын
@ The Glock wouldn’t exist if it wasn’t for John Browning’s FN 1910. Firearm technology has been evolving ever since the advent of gun powder. Glock essentially stopped evolving in the 1980’s. I’m not knocking Glock, it just is what it is.
@Uzumakibarage17 күн бұрын
Glock vs other guns is like the AK vs AR debate. The Ak is old reliable but doesn't mean it's the better option
@Dynomitedog226 күн бұрын
This would have been a better comparison to a G17 which is a full size, like the echelon. Just my opinion.
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@Rubeless21 күн бұрын
If the gas pedal was a benefit, everyone would have them. Recoil management is in the grip, not the thumb. Yes, plenty of competitors use them, but again, if it were the ultimate advantage, everyone would use one. The Springfield company went downhill in the early 2000s. They had major issues with the EMP, prodigy and saints.
@Uzumakibarage17 күн бұрын
Saying you can't drop your slide because you lose fine motor function is one of the dumbest things I've heard this year. You do realize you drop your mag with the push of a button, right? You can also drop your slide the same exact way.
@HalfCrazy52021 күн бұрын
So they both have crappy/spongy triggers. Noted.
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@gregbutler685126 күн бұрын
Better comparison would be the G17 gen5 mos but in every way the Echelon is better. As a matter of fact I’ve upgraded my SHTF from the G17 to the Echelon.
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