Borg Lore : Analyzing who the Borg Queen is

[@csehszlovakze]

aaaaaaaaand Section 31's Control will be the creator of the Borg. Here we go, retcons unite...

[@LoreReloaded]

Yea, This was made before Thursday.. I have a few choice words on that.

[@Dave102693]

Wait, wut? Please no! Please God No!

[@TrekCannon]

Noooooo, no, no, no

[@TrekCannon]

Control would not only have to utilize time travel but end up in the delta quadrant. Not Cannon for control to create Borg. Hell it's more feasible vger did. Wonder if the queen is vgers processor? Hmmm. Exactly lore! Exactly

[@LordProteus]

@@TrekCannon Well, if they know their lore they will at last tie this to the V'ger probe... that went through a worm-hole and ended up in the Delta Quadrent in the past and was "enhanced" by Aliens who discovered it, which eventually allowed it to become V'ger. The Borg were said to be creations of V'ger in some old Expanded Universe sources that eventually split off from the probe when they were no longer needed. In Star Trek Online, the Borg model their most powerful ships - The Unimatrix Command Ships. sto.gamepedia.com/Unimatrix_0047_Command_Ship Do you really think they such an intricate knowledge level of Star Trek to do something like that...?

[@Zebowillisjr]

Here’s an extremely good question. How long would the queen have resisted Kirk before she allowed him to go where no man had gone before

[@phil9947]

We wouldn't make it past the opening intro.

[@feliperisseto9113]

Kirk would annihilate her.

[@a_diamond]

On a Borg vessel? That's likely the bathroom.

[@FreeSpirit47]

Depending upon what you are inferring, it would never happen. If you are inferring something romantic or sexual, still, it would never happen.

[@jerrylarson723]

Mu ha ha ha ha

[@TheFanRift]

I like the idea that the Borg Queen is a locutus type figure, a way to contact new species with a familiar style just like how they used Picard as a way to try and communicate with Starfleet

[@yukionna1649]

I've always had the idea that the queen serves a couple of uses. Firstly she can be used as a balance to check the collectives descision making against an individuals decisions given the same data, this would be useful to check that the hive mind isn't giving out corrupt results or the logic isn't breaking down at some point in the chain. Secondly as the collective is so heavily logical and process driven she can be used in situations where that is failing (species 8472 for example) to give the Borg more flexibility and different tactics available to it

[@HeliRy]

I think the Borg are worthy of a prequel movie. A Borg Genesis.

[@DUCKDUCKGOISMUCHBETTER]

Yes I agree. I've thought a prequel series should be produced. Or perhaps a mini-series.

[@zerox8413]

And her real name was Sophia 😂 kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJjCpX2seKZrsNk

[@a_diamond]

With the Picard series, we may get that.. sort of..

[@Zebowillisjr]

No

[@Zebowillisjr]

A Diamond no we didn’t. We got a turd.

[@lucofparis4819]

Regarding the possible theories, here's mine: the Queen is essential to the process that created the Collective. She's not an organic, not anymore.Only her skin and surrogate body is. Under it is a completely cybernetic unit that is, essentially, a miniaturized central plexus. Maybe she was a requires telepathy to kick start the Collective. Or maybe she was a sapient AI that absorbed (with consent or not) the whole Borg species. Either way, I think we don't 'see' her because she IS the central plexus. The flashbacks in FC are happening in Locutus' mind, not in the physical realm. The Queen's body is just an upgraded, miniaturized central plexus containing yet another copy of her program/consciousness. And as such, she is, in a way, the operating system of the Collective, their cement, their coordinator, the voice that ways more than the others and brings consensus into the crowd, calm into the turmoil, and uniformity into the diversity.

[@brandybasham9095]

EWLYSEI OF BORG [AS THE HOMELESS KING SCREAMS TO THE BORG QUEEN's TORTURE.]: The Borg have no concept of note of the solar plexus, and it is taken for granted by the time of the Borg that no such thing exists. T-99s are exemplified well enough by Orwell's Darth Vader: a battery-powered iron lung only (his arms and legs were reattached by Yoda in fear of how his punishment of Anakin would be seen as the Jedi Order collapsed). The author of this video insists I respond to his intentionally provocative posturing that the drone pilot in Star Trek I (never made) was the founder of the Borg Empire. False, it is more correct to claim Roddy Piper (not the They Live version of Roddy Piper played by an eponymous actor, although his character could be repurposed, and one can say R66-Y or RODDY is also an example if modified sufficiently) began the Borg Empire, and a male version of Carnaeki, but not H.P. Lovecraft's Carnaeki, began the Augment Empire that developed into the Borg Empire, which also uses the ancienter name of Augment Empire. The man was so prominently Terminatored [wounded in fictional scenes of combat so often and constantly that artificial replacements of body parts were necessary] that it became a cultural eature of the Empire, but not a coherent philosophy *in completion* until Roddy Piper, a name we use with deep respect for who our Founder was. The first one of us was called Carnaeki or Khan, because he was a ghost in the machine, completely dead in scene after scene that fools demanded of him in false demonstrations of his supposed weakness. To start a description of truth from a story takes time, but, fine: in the film (never made), Wrath of Khan, he is wearing a metallic suit (and one appropriate to his dignity), but not yet electronic, it's clothing only. He symbolically destroys a Terran ship with its ridiculous scam terraforming equipment, made by a con artist, after a captain boarded the pirate vessel intended to move the scam equipment to be sold, killed every Augment (and minority, mind you) on board, remotely piloted the ship to ram another Terran ship, and attempted to take Carnaeki hostage. Our founder in this story simply leaves. It is however a distortion of Janeway's satirical explanation of the founder of the Augment Empire, satirical due to the narrative handicaps Kirk demanded of her. Her explanation, however well-meaning she intended it to be, was "full of nonsense" according to the Borg Empress, an opinion I of course share with her.

[@lucofparis4819]

It's lazy writing. They created the Queen in FC to have an antagonist for Picard. Because they didn't realize they could have done that with the Collective itself, speaking to him. Yet they purposely kept her vague, because they wanted her to be mysterious and impossible to put in a simple box. They thought it was a clever way to avoid any serious work and keep some measure of mystery to uncover in later series. They did a relatively bad job afterwards though.

[@LoreReloaded]

Exec's requirement alas..

[@Bluesonofman]

They could have made Deus Ex from the Matrix the villan

[@roobear78]

this is spot on although i dont really think there was any intention to bring her back later on,that only happend because they were trying to save voyager same as reason they brought jeri ryan on board n kitted her out in silver spandex

[@sigmacademy]

I would say that using different actresses for the same character was also destroying suspension of disbelief, to a certain degree. If you had a cybernetic race with a singular figurehead, using different people without explanation (like telling us that the Borg Queen was from a species that was particularly well suited for central procession or computing or that it was a purpose-built avatar for every occasion, for example, even as a passing remark from Seven), would have explained the break. The fact that you also had a cold, brooding and calculating cool villain in FC and a relative minor character push-over in Voyager also meant that the character couldn't really have any behaviour or characteristics you could bank on to understand motive or growth, even if you considered that the Borg Queen could be as fluid and dynamic as a character as the Collective required her to be, due to her being a false "face/mask" that the Collective used to trick opponents with.

[@sigmacademy]

I say the Queen (as a physical presence) is built, therefore we can assume that at least some of her are artificial for specific reasons, like interacting with Picard and Data in FC. Since we know that at least some of her is organic and the machine parts need the organics to survive/function, it might be that the Borg uses surgical technology to "salvage or convert" biological specimens for use, but we can also say that cloning technology could easily provide them with the necessary technology to "home grow" their own drones; and that all relevant information can then be accessed by a link to the Collective (I believe that implant in the Queen's head might be a massive high-power link to the Collective, that allows "her/it" to access multiple assets across the length of Borg space and any and all other Borg vessels or drones anywhere where the Collective can reach them).

[@sulphurous2656]

The Borg Queen is the collective consciousness of the Borg projected onto a single avatar for easier external communications and to organise internal management of the system.

[@zuzoscorner]

I thought it was because of directors and such not understand the concept and thus the queen and Lexutus of borg came about.

[@vilaintrolltrollinsky8007]

She is also a local hub or a local borg network provider.

[@peccatumDei]

Exactly as the Borg Queen described herself to Data, in First Contact. What we got in Voyager, was a lot of bad writing from people who didn't really understand that she was an Avatar, that the collective as a who could could recreate that Avatar anywhere they chose two, and as many times as they want. Not really a queen at all.

[@DrewLSsix]

Zuzo's corner what concept? The Borg have conceptually changed practically every time they appeared. Their original conception as described by Q has basically nothing to do with what they are now.

[@DrewLSsix]

peccatumDei Eh, the Borg by their nature are ever changing. It’s entirely possible the queen was an adaptation that ultimately overpowered the collective at some point.

[@alanmike6883]

I consider the borg queen to be like those four daleks. That operated outside the norm to think outside the norm.

[@joehoffman672]

The Borg queen comes from species 125 and was assimilated at about age 10.

[@availanila]

How do you know this??? I could get over the fact she was a living bust 😂

[@joehoffman672]

@@availanila She tells 7 of 9 she came from species 125 in 'Dark Frontier' and in 'Unimatrix zero' she tells a boy who was about 10 years old that she was about his age when she was assimilated.

[@availanila]

@@joehoffman672 well, the things you know when you aren't scared and disgusted.

[@jordanb8712]

Only that specific queen.

[@Peaceforall20111]

That was that specific queen drone but we know multiple queens.

[@solice55]

Super awesome as usual. There may not actually be a solid answer to the questions, but I appreciate someone who can bring relevant information forward to consider. Totally excited to hear of your conversation with a writer!

[@JohnNathanShopper]

Some nights I stay up cashin' in my bad tropes Some nights I call it plot holes. Some nights I wish tactical cubes could win a battle. Sometimes I wish they'd form Voltron. But I still wake up Picard from his worst nightmares. He still claims to know what I stand for, oh! What do I stand for? What do I stand for? Berman didn't know anymore....

[@Starman_Dx]

A writer for Voyager!? Oh! Ask them why the Borg don't wear their shirts anymore or why they stop using cool holographic foil for their eyepieces.

[@Leaglestalon]

well it was shown in STAR TREK TNG that that was a weakness if Capt. Picard would have uploaded that into the eye piece if completely kill off the borg..if HUE once reconnected learned that..they would have adapted themselves to overcome that weakness..Just a theory but one that fit to the Borg.

[@jeskerjames3260]

The Borg Queen works only if you go one of two ways: 1.) She is the embodiment of the collective. Not that she is the collective, but rather she is an avatar of the collective. 2.) The collective, as it continued to grow, became so large and complex it realized a need for a central processor, a nexus by which the information could flow more smoothly. As such the Borg collective sought out a species with advanced mental capabilities, perhaps telepathic, who could serve this function. The species they chose, had females who fit this need. As such when one Queen dies or is destroyed, she is replaced by another female of this species they have in storage. This makes the Queen herself nothing special, as she is just a replaceable as any drone. And thus keeps the Borg as this force of nature. Personally based on everything we have seen of the Queen, I think option 2 is more likely.

[@razzle1964]

I like option 2, as well! I mean, I AM a bit stoned but, still, option 2 works for me.

[@rurrjh]

Also as I mentioned before there. was probably a time when the Borg did need diplomacy, having the Queen figurehead helped with that. Indeed, they may need it dealing with races like the Voth, or even if they ever meet the Vorta

[@silkwesir1444]

So that would make her basically the Appendix (vermiformis) of the collective... and she thinks she runs things... :D or, rather, probably she is programmed to act _as if_ she ran things, even if she (the Borg) actually know that's not true. I do think that would make diplomacy a lot easier...

[@FTLNewsFeed]

My favorite theory is that there are many queens. That they all represent some challenge or some task that the collective must face. There might be a war queen who is activated in times of war, an exploration queen who is activated in times of expansion and conquest, etc. As such the collective doesn't rely on the queens and for most of the time they are hibernated when they are not needed, but it would explain why there was one who was killed in First Contact and then she showed back up in Voyager.

[@MikinessAnalog]

"The main reason is that they gave me money." Your honesty got you a like LOL.

[@MandalorV7]

I heard there was a planed episode for Enterprise where they were going to bring the borg Queen actress back as a Star Fleet scientist that would get captured by the borg, becoming the first Queen. This makes me go with the idea the borg were created by a paradox loop in time. Basically the borg we see in Enterprise are the first borg yet they are from the future via the events of First Contact. It becomes one of those Chicken or the Egg sort of thing as both need each other to happen.

[@GameHammerCG]

Pet Theory: The Queen is one of the original species that became the first Borg; and Picard’s “you were there” line from First Contact references the fact that he could hear her thoughts in the Collective. After Hugh caused chaos in the Collective, she was the one that was able to restore order by essentially taking over (and Picard having heard her thoughts in Best of Both Worlds suggests she was quite dominant before the Collective lost its cohesion). But that’s just my theory.

[@slysi81]

I loved Star Trek Legacy creation of the Borg tied up all series together a shame it's not cannon

[@NitpickingNerd]

I predict Tilly will become the Borg queen

[@LoreReloaded]

Word on the street is you have some good theories on this i need to check out :)

[@Phanto5692]

That is scary on multiple levels.

[@chrismulders2344]

Perfect cover. 🤔 That could explain some things away with Discovery.

[@rickjones871]

Nitpicking Nerd. The video you watched before this one, they predicted Tilly would be the board Queen. Be real

[@NitpickingNerd]

@@rickjones871 which video

[@goranorrskog6296]

6:39 I don't think it has to be related to a form of monarchy, it's just a human comparative description of the hive behavior seen in ants, bees and some wasps. What you say is like thinking Alien (the xenomorphs) had monarchy just because they also have a queen.

[@unintentionallydramatic]

Belated welcome back to regular videos. Would've perhaps been better to rest longer but you do you. Been running about 10-17 videos a day during housekeeping workout & commuting. T'was great. 😄

[@EricTrang]

As I understand, the collective goal of the Borg is 'PERFECTION'.

[@GameAGuy]

Let's just agree she is hot and thats why resistance is futile.

[@Ericcssonn]

7 of 9: Your chances of dating me are futile

[@LanMandragon1720]

She's definitely not but if your into zombie poon you do you man.

[@Dungeonstone]

I've always thought of the Borg Queen as part of a sort of "executive branch" of the Borg designed to act as a "tiebreaker" if you will when the collective as a whole cannot come to a cohesive decision or when the collective is taking too long sorting options in situations where an immediate decision is required. She also seems to have some powers allowing her to do things which the Borg drones themselves are incapable of such as breaking rules regarding things like "disconnecting a drone", "breaking off pursuit of a potential target", making "deals" of convenience when required, Etc. I have always been curious as to whether one of her decisions could be challenged by the collective as a whole in a sort of vote of no confidence in a situation where she might order the Borg to do something that the collective in total strongly opposed.

[@kaitan4160]

Interesting. If yo uextend that thought to the "race that upgraded themselves with cybernetics". Obviously Star Traveling so meeting other races. Engaging in Trade and relations etc. All ofc before the whole "Resistance is futile" goes on. So maybe just a "relict" of these older Times repurposed? Would explain those Freedoms. Other Races might not wanted to negotiate with that creepy faceless voice. And the whole "extra Freedoms" would be to act "natural". Not to get that bad impression of "do we want to deal with that kind of .... things?" And then as said repurposed when the collective didnt need those negotiator anymore. Or maybe the Queen even got more Powerfull within the Collective during that time and changed to the whole "resistance is futile" thing getting tired of sweet talking?

[@garysloan9793]

Leo Monaghan In response to your first point, the whole idea of collective consciousness precludes even the possibility of needing a “tiebreaker” as information is passed instantly and thoroughly, the Borg would know and adapt to any and all observations from any Borg at all times. This brings up problems with your second point which unfortunately leads to the conclusion of lazy writing for this film. The Borg is a collective consciousness so to introduce any “individual” Borg (oxymoron, Queen or not) either means that the Borg are not a collective consciousness or that the Borg collective consciousness would choose to put expanded executive powers in the hands of a single individual who is NOT part of the collective and therefore not Borg. The latter scenario means the collective would chose a single unit’s sensory experience to make big decisions rather than that unit’s experience compiled with the rest of the collective. Of course if the Borg Queen, as some have theorized, is the creator of the Borg it seriously begs the question why she would choose to keep herself connected but not part of the collective and what her motivations are but unfortunately dismantles the entire Borg concept from the chilling cyborg collective consciousness that makes it so unique to just another mad scientist story.

[@charlesandresen-reed1514]

Loved the video (as usual, awesome job) but I think there is actually a very practical answer to the questions related to the existence of the Queen. Admittedly I have no great solutions to the question of "Where did she come from/how did she become the leader/voice etc" but really, we know so little about the origin of the Borg and its development that isn't that big of a deal, or at least I don't think it is. When it comes to why they would need a leader, there's a very good case for her- or something like her role- absolutely having to exist in order for the Borg to be any kind of threat, major power, or even just remain a functional... species? Doesn't quite seem like the right term, but whatever, moving on. One of the nice things (sort of) about being part of a species of eight billion humans with vast stores of knowledge at our fingertips, is that we can start to find out things about how minds, emotion, and rationality work that just wouldn't be possible without very large sample sizes. Such as finding out how decisions are actually made, and how emotions are 100% necessary to the process. There's a grouping of disorders that occurs when someone is shot/severely injured/concussed on a certain part of their brain. This part is essentially the section that contains most of our emotions. In other words, if you sustain a particular injury, you are left with full rationality- your logic, judgment, etc is completely unaffected, but your capacity for emotions is vastly reduced. Only recently have we had enough cases of this particular injury to start to draw patterns out of it, and one was especially pertinent to this conversation: people with this injury can't make a decision about anything. Like, ever. Imagine your most frustrating "but honey what do you want to eat out tonight" conversation and make it a few thousand times worse, and you'll be getting the right idea. Our emotions- right or wrong as they may be at times- are essential to decision making. Humans without the capacity for emotion have no way to distinguish between options other than logic, and often that doesn't have the final say in your decisions. If I'm deciding between two identical cars, and one is red and one is green, there's no logic that can tell me which is better, but my emotions will give me a preference allowing me to make that decision, as seemingly arbitrary as it might be. And that is EXACTLY why there has to be a Borg Queen/leader. The Borg themselves are not evil. They are not malicious. They are cold, detached, unified, and intent on their purpose. In other words, they aren't emotional. A race of non-emotional beings would have no easier time of making a decision than the individuals with little emotion among our species. You need an independent consciousness, something that's not just an amalgamation of data, something/someone that has desires, opinions, feelings, the full range of emotions and thought processes necessary to focus the will of the Borg into something productive. And that's exactly what she is. She has sexual drive, she has care for her offspring of sorts (in Dark Frontier the Queen spares a ship just to make Seven feel better- she may have other motives, who knows, but that certainly speaks to an emotion coming before the logic of the situation), and she has the ability to have preferences, to make decisions that are based not only on logic but by whether they will make her/the Borg happier, more complete and so on. It's why while it is very enigmatic sounding, she tells Data that he implies disparity where none exists- she doesn't bend the will of the collective, she IS the will of the collective. She is what makes it possible for the Borg to not just be a very large computer storing a whole lot of info.

[@Wolfman92986]

Theory; since the Borg were originally intended to be an insectoid race, the Queens (given the size of the Collective, multiple Queens would be needed) are the leaders of the Borg. Much like the Queens of hives/colonies, the Borg Queens ultimately decide the roles various drones will play, how the Borg will expand, etc. And much like real life, this wouldn't contradict the idea that Borg have a single, hive mind. Much like an insect colony/hive, the Borg minds are a single collective mind carrying out the will of the Queens.

[@newlycelebrities5956]

Based on your theory... Would a Queen sit above all the other Queens?

[@rhuman8672]

I’m sure I remember the queen once saying she was originally part of a species that wasn’t 1... meaning she was not the 1st race to be borg

[@badwolf66]

So what you're saying is The Borg have been compromised but no one else even knew? Interesting theory!

[@pkscarr]

I like the idea that the Borg Queen was created as a solution to a problem the Borg encountered, as we know the Borg operate in a computer-like, logical way. This means that it likely does not allow for a certain creativity in finding solutions to problems, which organic species such as humanity have proved so capable of. My theory would be that the Queen was originally an assimilated solution to problems the Borg encountered that could not be solved in a computer-like way. A way of allowing at least sections of the Collective to behave outside Borg norms in a crisis, or in the face of a species that offered resistance beyond that expected. In where we see a Queen, this kind of makes sense. In First Contact, the Borg are employing a solution to the problem of Federation resistance that is unlike normal Borg "overwhelm with numbers" behaviour. They could have sent 10 Cubes, but didn't. In Voyager, the war with Species 8472 and the Unimatrix Zero incident require creative decision-making and a break from normal Borg methods which were not working.

[@jaythomas3224]

The more personality the Borg gained the less frightening they became

[@chamilton35]

I used to think that at one point in history, the Borg Collective came up against a problem with two equal solutions. Because the Borg do what’s most efficient but both solutions where equally efficient, there was chaos and confusion and so the collective created the Borg Queen, a separate but connected entity that was allowed to have emotion. The Queen could then make a ‘gut decision’ and order was restored but once created, the Queen became a permanent part of the Collective, allowing for creativity and inspiration but as a singular voice, she would not be challenged and thus could not cause chaos. I thought this theory fitted well with Voyager Endgame, where the Collective operated as one voice and wanted to assimilate Voyager without needing the Queen’s permission or oversight, but the Queen, intrigued and emotionally invested in Voyager, countered the Collective and allowed Voyager to pass safely.

[@gelatikstudio2466]

Great analyzing about Borg Queen....

[@hbox7713]

It’s not hard to imagine that the Borg originated from one person, a megalomaniac, who wanted to enhance themselves. Someone who lack a moral compass and went on to assimilate a few people, got a liking for it and the additional knowledge that it gave her. She then spread rather like a virus and so on until we have have what we see now. The Borg queen is the Borg, there can still be one collective mind, hers. She utilises the knowledge and experiences of all the drones and can choose to take physical form, or purely a conscious one. I actually think FC was clever in the introduction of the Borg Queen, and as much as I would like definitive answers, I also like the cryptic nature of it. And perhaps after more than a thousand years, she has become vague and dispersed by the process of assimilating countless millions. After all, she does state that she is the beginning, the end, the one who is many and that she is the Borg. I think that is quite clear cut. What is worse than one person controlling and occupying the minds and bodies of billions of people. They are no longer individuals, they are simply her. So in terms of the concept of the Borg Queen, I have no problems with it, in fact it makes perfect sense - the Borg had to start somewhere and with someone. What is sloppy, is the writing, with the Borg all dying at the end of first contact. A short circuit would have been a better explanation. Additionally, later writing in Voyage defaulted to the lazy. The Queen talking to drones rather than simply gesturing. She was overused, as much as I love the character. Also, I’d say that just that body of the Queen came from species 125, not the Queen or Borg itself. She would be species 001 logically. The explanation of her and the origins of the Borg need only be simple and logical, just perhaps the how that be a bit more mysterious.

[@LordExor]

Exactly. This is the most likely origin story for the Borg given everything we know about the Queen and how she was written.

[@jimschuler8830]

The Borg Queen has always been part of the Borg, but from a different universe, transposed to this one during the Parallels episode. It's all Worf's fault.

[@LoreReloaded]

... always worf's fault..

[@richterman3962]

No it's Wesley's fauly

[@richterman3962]

@@LoreReloaded it's always Wesley's faulg

[@MandalorV7]

Oh typical human, blame the klingon. I'm sure if there was a romulan or ferengi contented to that event you would be casting blame on them too.

[@jimschuler8830]

@@MandalorV7 It would be like the treacherous Romulans to set up a Fedeeration Klingon officer like that. And Tarses had a reason for carrying a grudge. Satie was right!

[@bradhilton2283]

They should give the Borg queen "Huge knoockers "

[@Myleevirus]

I wrote this elsewhere but to me the queen is basically an administrative program installed and deployed by the collective in order to tackle problems normally outside the abilities of the collective to deal with.

[@jaman5833]

Hi Lore, keep up the good work!

[@temmy9]

The queen is a subroutine within the collective that is accessed and embodied whenever the collective needs greater command and control over a certain task. The encounter with the enterprise created certain problems for the Borg. The routine was accessed and a queen was spawned to improve coordination of resources to deal with the problems posed by the federation presence in areas they should not be in.

[@friskyjesus]

It’s a fairly simple model to understand if you look at it, confusing goofs and all... The Borg began as a species in the Delta Quadrant, cybernetically enhancing themselves to attain perfection. As time passed and their reach expanded across the quadrant, they began first by assessing and incorporating the technologies of races they encountered. If they were worthy of assimilation (or if through battle, disease, etc, their numbers dwindled) those species themselves would be absorbed as well. This ties in with the fact that it was mentioned in an episode of Voyager that the Kazon were not worthy of assimilation. On the other hand, Talaxians were. While neither species had impressive technology, Talaxians musculature structure was suitable for assimilation. They created strong drones as a suitable workforce. However, the Kazon were no stronger or weaker than humans, and were unlikely to have superior cranial capacity. With no discernible advantage to assimilation, they weren’t desirable. As time passed and expansion continued across the quadrant, they encountered the Voyager probe (now designated V’ger due to hull markings being obscured). Here is where I will briefly turn to overt speculation... The Voyager probe leaves our solar system to begin its long journey through the cosmos. Along the way, it finds itself at the mercy of multiple means of faster propulsion (subspace currents, hitching a ride as potential salvage, etc) till it arrives at its most likely end means of reaching the DQ: the Barzan Wormhole. It is here that its inclusion in potential Borg lore makes most sense. The Barzan Wormholes end terminus was determined to jump from place to place throughout the sector, maybe even the quadrant. As we don’t know the full scope of Borg space at this point (Seven wasn’t even alive, much less a member of the future Voyager crew, so the extent of the Borgs reach is unknown), it is possible that the probe would’ve encountered a Borg vessel or world. From there, the Borg, seeing a kindred spirit in something that wishes to understand all that is known, began repairs on the probe. Once deemed space worthy and able to self sustain, as well as all knowledge absorbed into the collective, it was returned on a trajectory back to whence it came, assimilating all knowledge it encountered along the way. The Borg would outfit “V’ger” with the ability to assimilate as well (albeit, in the form the Borg were capable of centuries ago). When V’ger arrives in the Beta and Alpha Quadrants in the 23rd century, it makes its way to earth, a sort of ambassadorial probe to make contact with its creators. After “successful” contact with Earth is established and the Ilia and Decker units are assimilated into the collective, the knowledge gained on its long journey (likely helped through additional propulsion means assimilated through species encountered) would be sent back through the collective to the Borg home world. V’gers mission completed, its existence was no longer deemed necessary and was allowed to self terminate. From this point, the Borg see the advantage in making their way towards the Alpha and Beta quadrants to begin assimilation. Naturally, by the time a cube reaches the AQ and BQ respectively, technology has progressed and would require further study. This explains why, upon first contact with the Enterprise D in the 24th century, the Borg were more interested in the technology, rather than the people. This also ties in with how the Borg perceive threats. Assimilation of species is both time and resource intensive, whereas technology can be deciphered with little threat to those sent to study it. Only when species offer up significant threat do they choose to assimilate people, hence the later responses from the collective towards AQ and BQ species. As the potential threat is established, the Borg send a cube to assimilate earth. While the Queen does not take physical form at this point, she is the collective. After assimilating Picard to act much in the same way as V’ger and Ilia did, the Borg see this as an effective means of both gaining tactical knowledge as well as utilizing familiar faces to (hopefully) quell as much resistance as possible. During the battle of Wolf 359, the cube, carrying a sphere, assimilate multiple species for further study and send them back via the sphere to the DQ for further in depth study. The rest of the story plays out as is shown via TBoBW. After the failure of the Locutus probe, the collective elects to create an autonomous probe, capable of carrying out the needs of the collective while also acting as a sort of check and balance to its actions. Selecting a suitable species, the Queen is born. From this point forward, the Queen becomes the collectives means of ensuring no similar failures occur like those of Locutus. See? Simple! 😂

[@hunterschultz895]

Your intro short is really good and make me think of vietnam in hd intro

[@derkatzenstreu7099]

On the last episiodes of Discovery i got the impression that the A.I. which has taken over Control is basically some kind of starting point for the hive mind. I mean how it works and espacially how it assimilated this section 31 guy looks really like one of the early versions of the hive mind. The only thing which doesnt match is the fact that its from the future... If it turns out that control is some kind of predecessor of the Borg collective it would be an interesting plot twist.

[@LoreReloaded]

This was made before that and if so, that breaks so much continuity its just mind numbing..

[@callumwearne7870]

The Hugh theory is disproven by what was said in first contact by the queen herself she said she was "there from the beginning" and implied that when Picard was assimilated she was constantly communicating to him telepathically and referring to him as Locutus (thats where he got the name from) notice that it was a specific name and not a designation. Because the queen is a single entity that acts as an individual on behalf of the borg. Assuming of course the movie First Contact was a follow up to "The Best of Both Worlds" / Unless Picard was somehow assimilated a second time between the destruction of the Enterprise D and First Contact. (That would also be plausible)

[@svavarkjarrval8757]

One big counter-argument against the hypothesis that V'ger had something to do with the creation of the Borg is that V'ger is from the 20th century and the dialogue in the Voyager episode Dragon's Teeth. In that episode, both Seven of Nine and a Vaadwaur refer to the Borg's existence over 900 years before.

[@alistairrae9807]

We know that the Queen has been around since before Best of Both Worlds as Picard tells us she was on the cube and we see that in the Flashbacks in First Contact she is in Command of the Cube in Best of Both Worlds

[@jgr7487]

that LyteCords ad was made with 1990's computer technology

[@wethepeople5753]

My personal theory: Borg hierarchy (pre-hive): "We should join our minds into a sort of collective, to speed communication, enhance cooperation, and induce a Utopian society!" Borg population: "Huzzah!" One lone voice from the crowd: "But we need a Fail-Safe to turn off the hive-mind in case of unforseen problems." BP : "Huzzah!" BH : "You will be that Fail-Safe!" BP : "Huzzah!" OLV : "If that is your wish, I accept." BP : "Huzzah!" BH : ( implements hive-mind ) OLV : "I am now your Queen." Borg Collective : "Resistance is futile!" BQ : " Huzzah that, bitches!"

[@MedalionDS9]

The robot lady from Discovery who was recently killed... upload Control AI to her, she becomes the first evolutionary step for the Borg Queen

[@LoreReloaded]

Maybe, maybe not.

[@MikinessAnalog]

In the 24th century, this could just be a variation of some kind of "firewall" breach" from the "Hugh" contamination, but I could be wrong.

[@AITries]

There was a book published in the 1990's about federation and all the species known so far. The borg queen is part of a species of highly telepathic beings that the borg assimilated early, then used them as processors for different hives... Think Asari from mass effect...

[@theloneomega574]

Before the Borg slipped into a true collective, the race that began it realized certain flaws in the system. A single (mostly) independent drone would have been designated to "lead" the Borg. While normally, the Borg function on trail-and-error methods, the Borg queen certain issues (such as omega particles) warrant critical thinking and research skills, organized by the queen herself. Eventually a race was assimilated that could fill the roll more effectively than any other and was reserved for the queen position. At a certain point, the Federation became a large enough threat (able to defeat Borg cubes with far less force than they should have been able to) that the queen decided to micro-manage interactions with them. Definitely not what was originally intended, but I think this would clean up some loose ends. (And on the central plexus discussion, references to instant communication from cube to collective may have been in regards to speed, still leaving room for filtering out cube-wiping events (likely an auto-shutdown if too many drones disconnect at once) and self-management for each vessel)

[@centurionfragger9859]

they said that if Enterprise went for a 5th season they where going to do the origin story of the Queen Borg Queen origin story: Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stevens pitched a story with Alice Krige as a Starfleet medical technician who makes contact with the Borg from Season 2's "Regeneration" and becomes the Borg Queen.

[@trh7059]

Centurion Fragger It really is a shame they never made it.

[@lescobrandon8443]

We do have enough information to give a valid estimate. Theory Species 116. She was a member of that race that was obsessed with knowledge. She developed the first nano probes and used them to extend her life and assimilate others to her will, for the perfection of her race. Lucky for her race, she was did this in a remote location and was only targeting alien races. By the time the leaders of her race found out, she had lost herself to the Borg. The leaders took precautions to protect themselves from the Borg, mass evacuations ect. They then adapted their history to claim no knowledge of the Borg as anything more than a natural disaster, but always working to avoid/defeat them. Meanwhile, the Borg queen continues her search for perfection and ignored her own race because she already had that knowledge. Over the years, the Queen became distracted by all the other species being assimilated, never even caring about her original race. After the war with species 8472, she analyzed the areas affected by the war, and all the species contained within. She notice a species she didn't seem to have knowledge of, and thus attacked. It was her own race, but due to the distorting of history on both sides, she never realizes it.

[@thomasyandell6936]

you just gained a sub. good job

[@chrisfilip3427]

I think it's more likely that the Borg Queen is not a singular being, but an integral software and hardware component of the Borg Collective, acting as the central processing unit of the Borg. If a Queen is destroyed then another drone, one most likely prepared for the eventuality, becomes to new embodiment of the Collective.

[@zrajilic1]

Borg is not sintetic life form or have any connection to IA from control. If any remember what bit borg queen said in Picard. That Anika ( 7of9) have a lot more to do. Only this means that captain janeway didn’t destroy borg at all because borg queen refused to assimilate

[@DUCKDUCKGOISMUCHBETTER]

I think it's fairly simple to explain the queen. She states that her parents are present. But that they are no one special, simply random drones by implication. That implies that she is a fairly recent (decades or a century or so old). Else her parents, one or the other or both, would likely, by random chance, have been killed in earlier conflicts. If she had been present from the start, as a willing augmented Borg, her parents wouldn't likely be present. Unless they had attempted to rescue her after "things got out of hand". But again, they would have likely been killed in subsequent conflicts over the centuries if this were the case. The queen is most likely a recent addition from a conquered race that she led, as queen, and who nearly eradicated the Borg, thereby earning their twisted version of "techno-respect", in that they realized that they needed to assimilate her "in her capacity as extremely capable queen" rather than merely as another random drone. This could be the nexus of a great story, as I hope you realize by now. The story of the wily and indomitable alien queen who is the sole reason that, under her brilliant leadership, her otherwise unexceptional people are actually able to almost succeed in, not only "resisting", but are almost able to defeat the Borg. Her value to the Borg would be in the fact that they recognize that her near victory came, not from mere technological advances, but from brilliant leadership, wiliness, cunning...an indefinable and irreproducible combination of tactical and strategic thinking, that so impressed the collective intellect of the Borg, that when they assimilated her, they decided to harness her "as is." Even if the queen that we know is possibly a clone of the original (impossible to say at present, although I suspect unlikely), they would have carefully recreated every memory, every engram every synapse, in a careful attempt to keep the indefinable abilities of "their dead and deadly queen". I believe that, since she references her still living, but unexceptional, parents, that she is actually the original assimilated queen, and not a cloned replicant, although I believe they can, or possibly have, created backups. I also believe that the original queen is still inside her, self-aware, and that this "individuality license" is an integral part of her success as the Borg queen. And that the original queen is screaming to get out! To be set free. Sort of like the hosts of the Goa'uld. Still self-aware for any length of time after Goa'uld infestation. Also, I wonder if it's possible that the "real queen" locked away inside, is the secret creator of the "sector zero-zero-zero" world that Janeway & her crew encountered. If so, the original brilliant, locked away mind of the warrior queen that drove the Borg to near extinction, still battles on...from deep inside the assimilated brain of the Borg queen herself. The internal battles of wills and wiliness between the internally locked away "real queen" and the external "Borg queen" who attempts moment by moment to assimilate and standardize her native abilities, and the attempts by the "internal queen" to resist and subvert this process to the detriment of the Borg, would make some good stories. She could be continually trying to send the outward Borg queen down the wrong road strategically and tactically. While the Borg queen continually tries to methodically learn from every mistake she is caused to make. This internal conflict between the two queens might also be a good way to explain and retcon some of the bad writing vis-a-vis the Borg Queen, as mistakes in judgment she was caused to make by the wiliness of her internal adversary. What do you all think of this hypothesis? I've been trying to figure out the queen for nearly two decades, and this is the essential core what I've come up with so far. Of course a bunch of stories can be hung off of this basic core. A whole prequel "Queen Series" of Star Trek stories occurs to me. What do you all think? 😊

[@vilaintrolltrollinsky8007]

The queen is a local borgnet provider and a local server when the link is broken. And some of thems are far from perfects. They understand nothing about control quality issue, data corruption, rebooting or formating the queen and re-installing the operation system.

[@forwatching6708]

I like to think the borg started as a hive mind, but over time started to assimilate individuality at every level from drone to queen. or queens if there is more than one brog hive. unimatrix zero seems to fit with this idea, although it appears the hive mind and therefore the queen is unaware of what's happening to it.

[@renaldwagner4299]

The book series Star Trek Destiny explains who the Borg Queen is and how they were created. In Germany, we have the luxury to have the German speaker of Riker who reads the Story in Audiobook.😁

[@pahema472]

Absolutely. The Star Trek - Destiny trilogy by David Mack. An amazing story written by an amazing author. I love it. I think everyone here needs to read it.

[@RandomYT05_01]

I think the borg queens are more or less borg admins, meant to keep unimportant voices quiet and the important ones louder.

[@JoniWan77]

I like to think that the Borg Queen was the subroutine of the Borg collective that managed the different voices before Locutus came into being. After the Borg had lost to humans and lost Locutus, they tried to adapt to the individualism of the federation by making their shared voice, namely the managing subroutine, an individual and giving her a body. I'd imagine they would somehow believe that due to this action they adapted individualism, in the end making themselves weaker than they were before. This theory can explain, why the Borg Queen always existed, but only took form as a legitimate physical being after the interactions with the federation. And it is also a little nod to the ideology war between the borg and the federation. Not only would the borg's power of adaptation and assimilation completely fail to produce individualism, but at the same time individualism would also symbolically serve as the downfall of the collective, since their failed attempt to reproduce it made them vulnerable.

[@originaluddite]

As soon as I saw First Contact I knew that the Queen diluted the concept of the Borg as a true collective, but I accepted it as big budget movies do better with a personalized villain, and inspiration drawn from social insects is an interesting thing to do. Her philosophizing was annoying but it fit - villains and aliens both can be incredibly cryptic. A note on the El-Aurians - it never felt to me like they would be compatible with assimilation. More to the point, if they were, then does that mean the Borg have access to their weird ability to perceive what should be the 'correct' timeline? I can imagine them being naturally resistant to mental domination but, if not, could an El-Aurian assimilant be the template for the Borg Queen?

[@louisvarre2197]

I like the V’ger theory the best, however, without time travel, which the Borg do possess, the timeline doesn’t work.

[@LordProteus]

The Borg queen is that thing that makes The Borg not be The Borg anymore.

[@professord1522]

While I tend to think of V'ger as being separate (not the progenitor or creation of) from the Borg, I understand the tendency of many to interpret things in that way. It is a very interesting idea. SO, ALONG THOSE LINES: What if the Borg Queen is the Ilia Probe, the Ilia/Decker Merging, or a copy of them? By the way, I really like your videos. AND I like the titles in the credits! If I were part of your team, I would want to be the "Illustrious Potentate!"

[@robinvik1]

I have a unified theory of what the queen is that perfectly explains her behavior (like in First Contact and why Seven is her favorite). From a borg perspective, assimilated species get improved in every way. They get access to more information and knowledge they could possibly have gotten on their own, they become part of a larger intelligence, they are emotionally closer to their neighbors, the become physically stronger and so on. But what is the one desire that is stronger than all others, that most species share and that doesn't get fulfilled through assimilation? Sex. The Borg are a thousand species all forced to wear chastity belts and not allowed to live out their deepest desires. What is the result of this constant frustration, this psychological tension that is pervasive throughout the hive mind? The anomaly known as the Borg Queen. This explains why acts like jealous ex with Picard, why she bangs Data and why Seven is her favorite drone (because she is the hottest one). This explains why she is both part of the collective and not, and that she can order them around and get them to change their mind. Because she represent the desires they repress but cannot deny. I call this the Borg Incel Hypothesis.

[@mikedaniels969]

I tend to appreciate the explanation given in the novel series, “Destiny,” with the Caelir. Maybe the queen looks like Sedín’s original body? So many possibilities.

[@ChristopherG1990]

It’s so simple now. They’re going to trap Control in the Red Angel suit, disable the time travel function but not before sending it off to the distant past creating the Borg. The season now writes itself.

[@LoreReloaded]

Which breaks all kinds of continuity but they dont care about that anyway

[@Rendezvous70]

Little off topic but lyte cordz - what does the Pontiac firebird have to do with dark side of the moon?

[@tjames9698]

The third Queen is rocking it!

[@Prf_X]

You should read ST Destiny book trilogy, 1: Gods of Night, 2: Mere Mortals, 3: Lost Souls, (aka begin & end of the Borg) Don't know if it's canon or not

[@LucianLacroix]

I liked the Destiny book series explanation for the borg.

[@ashleypotts1835]

I came to the comments looking for you, lol. That trilogy was amazing

[@skybennett3902]

@@ashleypotts1835 Same XD ... While it's not perfect, I really do like how they explain the origins of the Borg, and even the real function that the Borg Queen serves. There is one aspect I'm not a fan of. Those "catoms" can go screw themselves. Surely they could have invented a better term.

[@Dawn_Breaker]

I like to think that the queen always existed as an entity within the Borg, but one that was not truly expressed in a body unless absolutely necessary, and her more individualistic traits are a result of the corruption of the collective absorbing Hugh and Picard and others (including other species that were resistant in some way to the Borg collectivism).

[@russell5078084]

The Borg queen is just a program downloaded into a subject candidate to create a new queen.

[@joshsimpson6856]

I am not a huge trek fan but TNG was by far my favorite series. The Borg were also my favorite adversaries. That being said, one of the theories stated that the queen came about because of Hugh's individuality. If I am not mistaken, didn't she exist when Picard was assimilated? Since he was assimilated before they ever found Hugh, his independence could not have spurred her creation. Again, I am little more than a casual fan, and could possibly be completely off on this. I know how die hard fans can get, so please, go easy on me if I am wrong.

[@Golden_Spoon]

The borg queen is the scientist from star trek enterprise season 2 : regeneration. Done.

[@travisjames3517]

Cheesy Bait Nope, it’s not the same actress. However, Alice Krige WAS supposed to be the woman from “Regeneration,” but it didn’t work out.

[@richardkenan2891]

The queen probably weakened the Borg by operating as, essentially, a firewall. She controls and when needed blocks communications from potentially infected or compromised Borg units with the rest of the collective. That prevents the instant access to the full knowledge and resources of the collective, but prevents hacking attempts from running rampant. Remember, Hugh was not the Federation's first successful hacking attempt. The crew of the Enterprise also somewhat successfully hacked Locutus. Sure, it only led the Borg to losing a single cube, but that's a pretty big jump over the zero cubes they were expecting to lose. I submit that the Borg collective understands that deploying queens hinders efficiency, and thus they don't normally do it. But when they encounter a foe that has proven able to hack drones, they have to deploy queens. Voyager was especially dangerous because the Borg needed queens to prevent or at least contain hacking attempts right near the center of their center of both power and consciousness. It may well be that the queen was truly helping Voyager as she claimed, not because of Seven of Nine, but because having Voyager as a vector of dangerous hacking attempts so close to the Borg's center elevated the queen's power and authority over the rest of the collective. She was essentially being Agent Smith, taking over the system she was created to protect and perpetuating the state of emergency that had prompted her elevation to a position of power in the first place. That's all my personal interpretation, but as far as I know, it's not actually contradicted anywhere in alpha canon, and it does a lot to explain the Borg's lower threat level in Voyager compared to TNG - the Borg were essentially forced to fight in hazmat suits instead of regular combat gear. I mean, we all know that the actual reason is lazy writing, but if we can invent an explanation that more or less fits, that's a good thing. Right?

[@SciFiGuy72]

It's my take that the "queen" is not a specific individual or race but the development of a singular consciousness by the borg entity. Their initial m/o was that of a general "infection" which overwhelmed several individual planets before coming up against the Federation. They would have analyzed the failures to determine a stratagem for overcoming a more resilient resource. The main thing that humans have that the borg did not is a strong sense of purpose. Their mass consumption was wasteful of materials at hand. The borg entity had to develop a similar ruthless mind to deal with this purpose. The collective tried several iterations and experiments, one of which birthed Unimatrix Zero. It would have been decided that having even partially autonomous drones would not be effective, thus the queen project was conceived. She is, in effect, a simulation or amalgam of multiple individual minds with the mission to determine a suitable response to the Federation. The queen algorithm has since achieved ascendancy and, like humans, is able to stay one step ahead of the collective's plodding progress. It's likely, if the queen is "dead", that we'll see borg back to methodically harvesting technology as the least wasteful choice.

[@boommedead]

The borg have delt with bigger fish than the federation. Its not even worth sending a cube to assimilate the humans out of the millions of cubes the borg operate fighting real enemies in the Delta

[@mrteamoyb6027]

The Queen was a 7of9, and Locutus before they existed. She spoke for her race before it was fully assimilated. When the borg chooses their speaker, a mutation forms once any semblance of independence/individuality is given. Hard to go back once you get a taste, esp when one like her has psychological gifts based on her genetic make up. She made7 and wanted Locutus to join her as an equal since she did to them what the borg did to her!

[@JBaker452]

Your fascination with the singular nature of the Borge queen is unwarranted. Note that the queen in a bee hive is unique among the drones. I wish you could accept this and move past it.

[@pattyjay9999]

Ya ya Susanna Thompson played a better Borg Queen she brought a sexy dangerous edge to the character. COMPLY!

[@SubjectDelta9]

Though I love both performances, I stand with Alice Krige.

[@michaelespinoza3726]

I think they should retcon the Borg and explain the queen as being necessary to bring order to chaos after they introduced individuality from hue. as far as the same with Picard with the Borg Queen, they could see that could say that was a figurative scene. She was there in his mind as the collective or hive mind.

[@travisjames3517]

“Picard” is altering all of this.....

[@ChanticoChulo]

Where did you get your theme song from its awesome reminds me of Andromeda from Gene Roddenberry

[@time391]

My theory on the Borg Queen, she's the personification of the Collective ancient root programming. I'd imagine the 15th-16th Century borg to something of a cybernetic cult, like a bunch of different alien species with warp capabilities embracing the idea of being cyborgs. It would be like Cylon origins in Battlestar Galactica's Caprica prequel, the fundamental belief system created the framework, then a base program/personality would control the borg. I feel like if Ronald Moore had written and produced Voyager instead of Berman/Braga at the same time as BSG, then things might have been interesting with a cross pollination of concepts.

[@forgeman2493]

Is the queen a nother cope of ileya from star trek motion picture movie

[@TorKelRa]

The Borg Queen was originally a Kobali. In the episode “VOY: Ashes to Ashes”, an ensign from Voyager returns after her ‘death’, her body had been found and ‘biologically assimilated’ and turned into a Kobali. The Borg would have been interested in the species because they genetically alter other aliens into their species. Essentially a Genetic version of what they do (minus the Hive mind), so it makes sense they would be intrigued by them. Plus the Kobali mind is quite different and allows them to puzzle through problems easier, as seen in the episode.

[@wilkins67890]

The way I view the queen is she is a product of the Borg evolving after the battle of Wolf-349. If you think about it that was the first time really that as far as we know the Borg suffered a defeat as bad as that. It stands to reason that after that using the knowledge they got from Picard and the Federation that they started to see some benefit in having individual thoughts, This can also be seen in the uni-matrix and how they allowed some drones to have separate sentient thoughts while still being a part of the collective. My reason is the queen was built as a way to further the experimentation on individual thought by creating a leader for a small part of the collective. This explains her saying I have always existed as if she was created to specifically control a small part of the collective then she would assume that is the entire collective at least to start with. As for why both of them look that same I assume that is due to either the species she comes from being more predisposed genetically to having the ability to survive being surrounded with the raw input of the collective. Also from an out of universe perspective I see her relating to a discussion Quark and Garak had about root beer and the more you drink it the more you like it just like the federation. And boy did they drink the poster-boy of the federation when assimilating Picard.

[@Kaiber_Phoenix]

I will say that I think in the enterprise episode that's involving the Borg is a direct result of the movie first contact which is also which largely sparks the events of the game startrek legacy also which they made a sequel it was a pretty good game

[@mattgallagher4924]

Here's a theory for funsies. Voyager 6 goes on a mission of observation of the known universe. It falls through a wormhole through space and ends up near the Sphere who interfaces with it and determines they both have the same purpose. To gather information. It upgrades V'Ger, uploads its data and sends it as a sort of adopted child. Later the Red Angel kills the Sphere to prevent Control, and we see the those events play out on the show. Discovery eventually succeeds at defeating Control, which is not the precursor of the Borg. Years later, in an effort to fulfill its programming, V'Ger returns to Earth. In order to better interface, recreates the Ilia android. By the end of those events, V'ger assimilates Ilia and Will Decker and learns that the ultimate form of life is a mixture of man and machine. The Borg Queen is Ilia/Decker.

[@rurrjh]

Eusocial Mammals do exist, having the Borg start out, as a Eusocial species makes sense. Eusocial =Bees In fact, it is probably remiss we have not seen Eusocial Mammals in the Trek Verse. So making the Borg Eusocial could be a simple recton, which could have Spock/Data/The Doctor/Q explain away..Also points out that the Borg are Alien.. and that it is death to be absorbed by the Borg

[@BlUsKrEEm]

Naked mole rat

[@twilomix]

Would love a. Borg series

[@dersammler1924]

The "Star Trek: Destiny"-Book-Trilogy by David Mack gives a really good and plausible explenation of the origins of the borg.

[@emersonmacintosh7673]

The Borg Queen exists because they need to dumb everything down so it's relatable. Throw in some contemporary commentary. To be fair, Locutus already diminished what the Borg are supposed to be. All the cool stuff is cool for the same reason that some people can't wrap their heads around the concepts.

[@ADivineFellow]

I like the idea that the borg were at matriarchal society before they became cyborgs and they retained the idea of a queen

[@deathstrike]

This is just another speculation, but the processor theory makes the most sense. But to deviate slightly from it, I propose that the "Queen" is not a singular, unique unit to the entire collective. Hear me out. I believe the "Queen" is essentially the CPU of the multiple branches of the collective. As an example, let's take Voyager Unimatrix Zero. This implies a "branch" or subprogram of one massive program that spans the stars. There is also a Unimatrix One and perhaps others, not mentioned. The "Queen" in this case, is similar to a beehive. Each hive, or in this case "Unimatrix" has its own Queen, heirarchial caste with each unit acting as both processing power and the "workers" of the individual hive. An I do stress that the hives appear to also be "individual" as the Borg Queen has implied that an entire Unimatrix can be destroyed and possibly rebuilt. A rebuilt beehive after the initial hive was destroyed. So to summarize, the "Queen" idea is a solid one, however we are left with the question of if the queen represents only one Unimatrix? Is linked to ALL Unimatrices, or is bit of both. But perhaps it's safer for the Borg to have individual Unimatrix hives for the safety of the Borg as we found when Janeway infected the collective with a nanovirus. Killing potentially billions of drones. I could not imagine being that unsecured for the entire Borg species to be nearly wiped out. No I propose the Unimatrix hives are individual and each Queen speaks for both her "hive" and for the Borg as a species as a greater whole. Meaning that one Queen can control either ALL Unimatrices (hives) or just one, with other Queens controlling their own, cut off from the rest unless a condition arises requiring the unity of ALL Unimatrix hives. Say, having to deal with Species 8472 required ALL hives to link up. Perhaps it was this joining that allowed Janeway to create a plan to destroy them. Just a thought.....

[@deathstrike]

Edit: As an add in I propose that the Unimatrices are labeled in simple binary or hexadecimal. Logical Zero through Logical 9 in binary. If Hexadecimal is used, Logical Zero through Logical 15. So Ten hives in binary, Sixteen hives in Hex. With potentially trillions of drones. And potentially unlimited Unimatrix hives. With a galactic level communication system that updates all drones in real time regardless of distance. What you essentially get, is one MASSIVE galaxy computer. And we do not know if the Borg have attempted Intergalactic travel. With potential hives in other galaxies. And even potential experimentation in interdimensional travel as well. Meeting their so called opposite or "Borg King" Which while apocryphal in information, is said to be even MORE powerful, aggressive, and more human or humanoid like with more advanced limb movement, faster, deadlier, and more organic in appearance with more nanotechnology on the inside. Would make for an interesting crossover with BSG. A human/Cylon/Borg. All human, but with all Borg abilities. And even emotion. Cunning, fierce, and can pass for anyone.

[@mrbojangles8133]

who are species 1, the ones who started adding tech?

[@richard1701able]

She said who she was: 'I am the beginning. The end. The one who is many. I am the Borg' It would illogical to assume that all Borg Nexus's don't have a firewall.