Bravo Throttle Review

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Hello flight simmers! Today, I'm going to give you my review of the Honeycomb Alpha Flight yoke and the Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant! These systems are fantastic and so reasonably priced! Be sure to check out RGAM's great KZbin videos for configuration and bug fixes!!
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FS Tool and Heading Bug Fix: flightsim.to/file/5694/fs-tool
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#flightsim #honeycomb #bravo #alpha

[@ciri151]

What honeycomb is doing with the price to quality ratio is unheard of today.. It seems like all a company wants today is money. Hats off to them!

[@pastelasoproductions]

I ordered mine in august and I just got mine today and the feeling is mutual. I had all the same bugs but those videos are a must watch right now. Worth ever penny. Now all I can’t wait for is air manager 4.0.

[@georgesiebes]

I love the Alpha and Bravo too!! Couple of little things I did: For GA fixed wheel, I mapped the Parking Brake to the Gear Up/Down handle, just feels right. Also, I colored the ridges on the AP pilot knobs white, really helps to quickly see the current setting while busy flying.

[@rolandgardiner3059]

Thanks for the review. Can't wait to get my hands on the throttle quadrant.

[@weepingeye]

Hey Overkill, great vid thank you. Instant Like. Received my Alpha yoke few days ago and love it! Can't afford the quadrant just yet so persisting with Proflight for the time being. Bu this Bravo from Honeycomb is a definite! Thanks again.

[@captainzeppos]

Nice review. I have already preordered mine, twice as the first order was cancelled by Amazon after a few months. I hope I have it delivered during the lifetime of my grandchildren's children.

[@sascenturion]

Great video ! love your enthusiasm dude well done lol What a fantastically clear 4k inflight segment you did , wish my in-game flights were so was so clear and steady Both items look awesome.. but horrible to get a hold of , I'm still waiting 3 months for my honeycomb yoke , never mind being able to actually find and order a throttle quadrant.

[@SSChambers1]

It appears that we have the same yoke and TPR pedals 👍. Stopped by to check your review on the throttle quadrant as I'm looking to snag one. Based on my yoke, I assumed the throttle would be of similar quality. Your review comfirmed my assumption. Thanks for an excellent review!

[@MrPhantom453]

Wow!! I hadn't even thought about using it in DCS (I use the Warthog HOTAS for that ). I mostly fly the more modern jets or helos, but you are absolutely right about the warbirds applicability. P.S. I only recently found your channel but I'm loving it. Your help on VR configuration - pure gold! Thank you sir.

[@OverkillSimulations]

My pleasure!! Same here. Thought of it as I was making this!

[@greenranger2764]

I just found this video and I'm glad I did! Great review with lots of good information. 💚💚💚

[@ryanp6999]

Really great video. Also, good on you to credit Rmag and his videos. That dude saved the day.

[@4freebird69]

I was finally able to order the throttle quadrant today after weeks of outa stock notices from every retailer. (Wasn't going to pay 2 or 3 times the retail to those scalpers) Thanks for the heads up on the set up. Hopefully some of the bugs will be fixed by now.

[@vonw.3294]

Off topic but always remember in aircraft with controllable pitch prop levers. When reducing power, throttle then RPM. When increasing power, RPM then Throttle. Other than that great video. Trying to buy one of these soon when they come back on the market. I have the yoke now I’m waiting on the throttle.

[@jeffreyreicher5241]

Great review, thank you. Just liked and subscribed. Both are on my Xmas wishlist. Again, thank you for a great review.

[@JenniferinIllinois]

I love my Alpha and when I am finally able to order a Bravo in 2022, I'm sure I'll love it to! LOL!!! Seriously though, I hope to be able to finally order one sometime in the next few months.

[@cormacrohda319]

I preordered off of sportys a few days after christmas and it arrived today, I think I got really lucky considering it originally said late February delivery, but still, try sportys

[@erichusser5743]

Mine are coming some time in February...Looking forward to the setup. Nice review!

[@OverkillSimulations]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@Eygor007]

You sound very satisfied with them,just ordered mine hope I enjoy them as much as you.

[@heinzpilot]

The yoke will be here tomorrow. My throttle quadrant is on back order until July 2021. Man, I'm so excited to get these. I'm replacing 20+ year old CH Products flight yoke and throttle quadrant. They had a good run. Bought the honeycomb products from Sporty's.

[@frankjames4573]

i got mine this morning... will def check out those links... not even tried it yet, about to!

[@Yuushiboy]

Thanks for the review! Actually ordered one today so will have it in 3 days ^^

[@OverkillSimulations]

That fast?? You lucky devil!

[@antonyall]

Mr. Overkill! Thanks for your heartfilled review. As you all may know, there are other alternatives out there, some way cheaper and most more expensive. My choices were the two more expensive alternatives but the Honeycomb offers me a $2000 savings at the least.....dont want to mention the name of the other companies as I do not know the legal implications. I am trying to regain my lost flight skills and as such have decided to use the home pc flight simulator route before actual flight retraining begins. You all know how expensive flight training can be even though when I learned to fly it was $22/hr wet for C152 dual. Nowadays about $180/hr. Ty once again to Mr Overkill and please advise me as to whether you can assert that the home pc training will help before I do engage the actual flight training, in terms of cost of course. TY.

[@TheCe1ticZombie]

Thanks for the video. I’ll try and buy one when they are in stock again. Just picked up a CH products HOTAS and pedals setup for a good price on EBAY. Wouldn’t mind seeing a video on how to set this up to use with IL-2 Sturmovik. Liked and Subbed.

[@coffeeguy6673]

I just bought the flight yoke after sending back the awful Logitech saitek yoke, you get what you pay for! I was blown away with the alpha yoke, it just oozes quality and makes flying a pleasure, literally plug n play with MSFS 2020. Looking for this throttle now and the Thrustmaster pendulum pedals....pricey but worth it.

[@Njohns1]

Just ordered mine. Can’t wait!

[@jamesgilbert1179]

Where ?! Can't find it 😢

[@exiletsj2570]

Honeycomb have legitimately made a simpit, within reach of the average guy. I’ll wait for the pedals reviews, then pick them all up, I’m assuming they’ll be just as good.

[@Snowy57]

Thank you for this review. I received mine today and am really impressed. So far I’ve used it in MSFS for which it is tailor made and briefly with the DCS Mosquito. After a bit of set up in DCS I have most of the axis set up and coincidentally today DCS released an update that adds more axis for the Mossie. It is so nice to use.

[@ZenonZolek]

Thanks for you efforts

[@leebest1a470]

Great info. My Bravo on the UPS truck as I type this.

[@OverkillSimulations]

Are you going crazy yet!!?? Lol

[@deondupreez8431]

I have the Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant now for 4 months. As a XP-11 flyer, I enjoy the ability to work the throttle. BUT only 2 months in using the unit, I started to get problems with the thrust reverse switches. I first were thinking it was my poor ability to interact with the XP11 software. But later I realized the problem was not with the software of the switches in the levers, but the fact that the wires running inside to the controller card were breaking. I realized this when I opened the controller and visually inspected the wires. 4 of the routed wire were all broken. My observation was that the wire they were using is too hard, and during bending would suffer fatigue damage. Realizing this, it was not really possible to solve the problem by doing an exchange of the bravo unit, as this problem is a Design fault, and I would just be getting the same failure in the future. Therefore, I replaced all the routed wires with a thinner more flexible gauge wire and adding additional support at the tight corner bends. After my repair to date I had no more problems with the functionality. I do not know if other users have the same problem? Let me know.

[@chrisjung5952]

I’ve been buying flight sim gear for about 40 years now and the Alpha and Bravo are the best value I’ve ever seen. It takes some tweaking to get everything working but that’s only because it is early days for the new sim and Honeycomb have some work to do on the software side. That said they are excellent controls. As you said, it could have been sold at twice the price and would still be a great value. Excellent review, thanks!

[@DaveChip-vx9ln]

This is a real help thanks

[@aaronpederson6840]

Thanks for the review. I’ve been eyeballing these, and I think I’ll get them when they’re in stock again. Which rudder pedals are you using, by the way?

[@YoPuru]

just place my order :) looking out for it next weeeeeek! until then I remain strong.

[@keith_root]

I'm a new owner of this set and it is fucking nice. Pardon the language, but there's just no better word for it. These things are insane for the price.

[@bucketheadTodd]

I cannot wait for my Bravo to show up. Supposed to be here end of this month. #thwottle

[@OverkillSimulations]

Lmao @ #thwottle !!! Dude I say it every darn time!!

[@MrPhantom453]

Me too brother. Originally 27 Nov, then 22 Dec and now 15 Jan .... supposedly. We'll see.

[@schlonzschuppe4516]

thanky you sir, i bought my bundle after your video. 😅

[@kubel83]

Really enjoyed this review. I bought myself a new Xbox Series x. And I will be getting Microsoft flight simulator. I guess I will be ordering this hardware also cause apparently they support Xbox platform, which I am super happy for. Gotta admit this looks awesome. Anyway thanks for the great review. Oh and sorry for the bad grammar. I’m danish 😅

[@theVRpilot]

Bro, I just got my order in it ships feb 6! Cool to see your thoughts. Bravo throttle - I already own the alpha :)

[@OverkillSimulations]

You are going to love it!!!

[@yskrrtdogs2689]

whats the link to where u got it

[@theVRpilot]

@@yskrrtdogs2689 yo about an hour after my post it was sold out. It was the official website for honeycomb.

[@yskrrtdogs2689]

@@theVRpilot oh dang thx tho

[@leerose9436]

Brilliant ! Thanks 👍🙏🏻✈️🇬🇧🇺🇸🍻

[@Fimpiekijke]

You mentioned the stutters, pretty sure that is a MS feature because I noticed this also after last updates.🙁

[@nottsork]

Would like to see if you specify nose gear failure will the lights reflect that

[@jamesleicher]

try a big webber Q cover might go over yoke and throttle,just a thought

[@jetsimmer]

I am playing MSFS 2020 and just started on DCS. I need a Throttle quadrant that can be used for both sims. I have been researching and the I like the Bravo, but I already have the Logitech Multi-Panel which I use for the AP (so that part of the Bravo would not be needed). I also really like the Virpil T-50 CM3 (or maybe the Thrustmaster Warthog Throttle). Between the Bravo and the Virpil which do you believe would be the best choice for both MSFS 2020 & DCS? One other thing I have the Honeycomb Alpha Yoke (for) GA aircraft & the VKB Gladiator MK.II Stick (for) Military Aircraft. So all I need is the Throttle Quadrant and not the complete HOTAS System.

[@jerrydoessims8169]

Thanks for the review, this looks amazing. Can anyone tell me how wide the Quadrant is? I'd like to know how much room I need to make on my desk when I'll finally can lay hands on one.

[@an3k]

It has the same dimensions as the Alpha Yoke but the Bravo Throttle extends more to the front. Approx. dimensions (desk space): 10" x 12" x 5" (depth x width x height)

[@tyrk1589]

which airport are you flying in the vid? looks awesome

[@sypharorigin]

Is there any way to get the autopilot altitude to change in 100's and not 1000's?

[@johnaustin704]

I love your content, Overkill, and congratulations on your Honeycomb acquisitions. Unfortunately, my definition of affordable and yours is quite different. I don't have $500 to spend on flight simulation controls (yoke plus throttle quadrant) on my fixed income. I can barely afford the Thustmaster T.1600M, TCWS, and rudder pedals.

[@MrZX1409]

Overkill, I use both Honeycomb yoke & BTQ throttle in MSFS. The issue I'm having is I can't get the AP to work using the AP button on the throttle quadrant or clicking on it in the aircraft itself, any suggestions? And yes I binded the AP button on the quadrant.

[@dabneyoffermein595]

I notice you have the yoke and throttle exactly even from left to right. do you find that the yoke is a bit too close to you? in other words, if you move the yoke a bit more toward the monitor it would leave the two products uneven in alignment and I'm wondering if it would look weird that way. I would like it if I could line them up so that when I put some logitech panels on top of them it would look better and lined up and even...But is the yoke harder to deal with when it's farther in our chest? Any help with mounting ideas would be super (there is only one way to mount the bravo of course since it hangs off the edge of the front of desk so there inlies the issue).

[@PeterNGloor]

what do you do that the trim wheel works for you? I can't get it to work.

[@surfman88]

What pedals do you recommend besides this nice setup?

[@Anonymous99997]

Wouldn’t it be cool if there was a servo to spin the trim wheel when in autopilot?

[@Rushil.Tallakokkula]

yeh

[@CappyBert]

Still waiting on mine arriving from Amazon UK. Ordered on the 15th July at a cost of £240 and still no sign of it showing up. The comment regarding the pricing on eBay is valid, but what do you expect when there is so much pent-up demand for the product and it is virtually impossible to get outside of the US. HA have massively underestimated the demand and their logistics have fallen way short of what is needed to get this product into the hands of consumers. They need to learn from this quickly and not make the same mistakes with the Charlie pedals. Because consumers will not make the same mistake with pre-orders. I'll personally be sticking with my TPRs.

[@garcibmp]

great review! can you please provide the link for the videos to fix the bugs?

[@OverkillSimulations]

In the description already:)

[@JDuBz815]

Thanks for the review. I wouldn't say the Saitek/Logitech yoke/throttle are junk by comparison. Simply an old design that hasn't been updated. They were around $150 before covid/mfs20 came around. The additional throttles were around $40 at the same time. For that money I'd say it's not bad at all. The honeycomb is absolutely a step above but it's also much newer and $500 for the pair. So that's to be expected.

[@taxi615]

If they make these products for xbox do I got for this or wait for turtle beach for their new yoke kit? I'm going to go full in as flight sim is coming to series x next month and really want to give my money to the right gear. I went full out for sim racing and don't regret it so why not spend at the right place here also.

[@UAL012]

Can this setup be used on older Flightsims? I have FS2004 and will eventually upgarde. Also, where in AZ are you? I livve in Surprise

[@b9bot148]

Reality is I could only find the cheapest Alpha and Bravo for $279 each. Everywhere else like you said wanted to charge a lot more.

[@Dennis-xs9cn]

nice review thankyou. What aircraft are you flying please. I cant find it

[@NicholasWilby]

Hey Dennis, The aircraft is the Piper PA44 Seminole and can be found within MSFS's marketplace under aircraft>piston> You should find it in there.

[@Dennis-xs9cn]

@@NicholasWilby excellent. Thankyou for the response

[@loubar8328]

You have the same mouse pad I have!

[@KRich408]

I just got the Bravo had the Alpha for a few months now. The bugs IMHO should never happen on something like this, it's not a Cheap Walmart or Amazon made product, they should iron out these issues before shipping them to the public, QC is what gives a company a good name. Why people expect issues today is baffling? All any company that makes a product for the public needs to do is test the item the issues were not that bad and fairly easy for them to resolve now the customer might not understand the bug and get frustrated sending it back then having that disappointment in the back of their mind possibly never buying from them again. Maybe I'm just old school when I worked for companies that made custom devices made sure it was 150% ready before selling any of them.

[@jibulissan]

Which aircraft is this pls?

[@pilottech9141]

Thanks for the video! I have a question, how many USB ports are in the back of the throttle? Im looking to plug both my joystick, and rudders in the back of the throttle because I am not sure if all the 3 USB ports including the throttle, rudder, and joystick are all going to work with all the USB ports in the back of my PC. This is a big concern for me. Any suggestions?

[@EpicSnotBubble]

Get a muli port USB hub. It'll only take up one port on your PC. I have one that has 4 ports. It has buttons to toggle on/off for which device you want to use.

[@OverkillSimulations]

As Jeremy was stating, get a POWERED USB hub. Powered is the critical piece. As long as it has it's own power supply you can run an almost infinite number of USB hubs. I have two attached to my desk. One under it and one on the desktop which happens to be the one I plug my controls into when I want to fly.

[@pilottech9141]

@@OverkillSimulations Okay, thank you, I am going to purchase that now! Also, how many USB ports are in the back of the throttle, and does it use USB C to plug into the PC?

[@bucketheadTodd]

So, I downloaded FS_Tool thinking it could fix the heading bug with my Alpha, and for the life of me I cannot get this utility to work. When I test the yoke, the app doesn't register any of the button presses. My controller profile in MSFS already has all of the rocker and rotary switches unbound, and I have the profile in FS_Tool set to Alpha only. The app also is super laggy on my gaming rig, seems a bit odd. If anyone has any ideas on how to get this up and running, let me know.

[@intrepidface07]

I have the same problem ! Did you fix yours ?

[@Shadow__133]

I just ran the exe, made sure those two settings were enabled on the tray icon (manual) and inside the game deleted everything on the higher numbered switches. Did you try running with a clean profile (just axis)? If nothing works maybe you are missing simconnect or something?

[@mrhelsinki7683]

Great video Thanks BUT How does one get hold of one lol?

[@martincarstensen8527]

Wow that's the closest anyone can get to a Matt Damon voice without being Matt Damon

[@brent4770]

I got the yoke, but the throttle is out everywhere unless you pay $675 on EBay. : (

[@kalynstalinski8375]

Noticed you’re flying out of ktus, nice!

[@OverkillSimulations]

I live here lol!

[@kalynstalinski8375]

Hope you’re enjoying the snow!

[@OverkillSimulations]

@@kalynstalinski8375 I did!

[@Apollyon_Rev911]

Does it come with the top mounting kit?

[@OverkillSimulations]

Yes sir

[@joemendell9264]

What sensitivity settings have 7sed for the yoke? Can you show them for me?

[@OverkillSimulations]

For the yoke, default

[@joemendell9264]

@@OverkillSimulations what do you mean default?

[@nyrubin]

On Microsoft flight sim it’s plug n play for the main controllers, but on X plane for Mac m1 I have to set everything up it’s so annoying

[@OverkillSimulations]

Oh that's rough

[@jebediahkerman7270]

Hi, did you know is it working on Xbox Series X? Thx 🖖🏻

[@naveeniyengar]

none of the switches(34-47) in throttle quadrant are recognized in msfs 2020 when alpha yoke is connected. did you have the same problem? how did you fix it?

[@OverkillSimulations]

I didn't have that issue no... did you download the drivers from Honeycomb

[@naveeniyengar]

@@OverkillSimulations Yes, I downloaded "Enable LED lights" from flyhoneycomb.com/pages/drivers page. Switches stopped working after I connected Alpha Yoke which I purchased and setup later. Glad it working for you. I'll try to troubleshoot further. Your videos are very informative. Thanks for producing great content :)

[@virtualDon]

@@naveeniyengar The default for the switches on the Bravo are the same as the ones on the Alpha. Look at RMAG's tutorials. One of the first things he talks about is remapping the switches on the Bravo to do something else otherwise they conflict. There are no drivers from Honeycomb, BTW, there is a bridge through SimConnect, created by Aerosoft, that enables the LEDs for the Auto Pilot (another bug addressed by RMAG is getting the IAS light to come on!). But technically, no drivers are required - it works with MSFS out of the box (or should I says boxes). Just be sure to remap those switches to something else - I use Cabin light, Flood light, Panel lights, Pedestal lights, Pitot heat, Prop de-ice and Parking break. And of course, they can be different for each profile you create.

[@naveeniyengar]

@@virtualDon Thanks for the detailed response. I did try to remap those switches by first clearing their original assignments even before I connected the yoke. Once I connected the yoke, I am unable to get the keys to work in msfs even to change assignments for the keys. Searching by controller input in msfs, there is no response to switch toggles anymore. Fixed other bugs after watch @Overkill and RMAG video links. I am not sure whether it was because I setup the throttle quadrant first before setting up the yoke. I'll probably try to clean up all the profiles and retry again.

[@stricklandgarageaviation2864]

I hope I can get the set. What computer works best with these?

[@OverkillSimulations]

What do you mean Bud?

[@stricklandgarageaviation2864]

@@OverkillSimulations Okay, I'm just starting out and have iMacs which don't run well on any sim. My question is what computers can run the Honeycomb system and the Fight sim.

[@OverkillSimulations]

@@stricklandgarageaviation2864 I see. Yeah I would stick to PC

[@EllieODaire]

Proposal to rename it The Thwottle(TM)

[@EllieODaire]

I bat about 50/50 for being able to say "throttle quadrant" or accidentally going "thwottle" myself so I legit just avoid saying those two words together 😭 I'm gonna be doomed when my Bravo eventually arrives.

[@ER9DOC]

A-men

[@MrPhantom453]

Good one 😉👍

[@georgesiebes]

They should replace the T and the Q in the pilot's alphabet and we'll all become good at it. Thwank you.

[@FLT247]

Honeycomb is very impressive. I think calling CH products complete junk is very harsh. I have been using the full suite of their devices for the past 15 years and they stand the test of time. Granted... I would not pay $500 for a CH Pro Yoke and Throttle Quadrant combo.

[@_multiverse_]

That frame rate though

[@egg-iu3fe]

I paid 500 for the bravo throttle by itself. Which is 375 USD

[@jasonallen5641]

I was on line & found a honeycomb alpha yoke for $249. (Than I saw others of the same for I think $ 350.-700!!!) I was like WELl, for $700 you better give me 2 yokes the throttle quad & 2 rudder pedals!!!! So look out for the (SCAMMERS)

[@OverkillSimulations]

Agreed...

[@Teejay82_]

My only gripe with this setup is that the yoke only comes with one mag/starter switch.. i mostly train with 2 engine props, a second switch would have been on par with the bravo. i see no point in having 4, but certainly 2

[@davidhack1974]

Excellent video, but why are you talking so fast?

[@NanaHoshi35]

Well, the Alpha surely can not be the best GA yoke...it lacks hall effect senor, let alone FFB...if more money could be added, the fulcrum sim yoke FULCRUM ONE is a better choice. But at its price range, the Alpha is unbeatable yoke now...

[@OverkillSimulations]

I meant for the price range absolutely

[@shinkicker404]

Thwottle... hehehe.

[@universeunknown1880]

Don’t buy it from eBay ? Well, easier said….out of stock everywhere.

[@DarkKnight-bi7cr]

The levers are too damn small. Like throttles for peanuts

[@airste172]

I fly a Cessna, so this thing doesn't do anything for me.

[@equious8413]

Anyone got $800 bucks a guy can borrow? No? I'm stuck with an Xbox controller? Gotcha.

[@Voltomess]

I wish to ask this CEO why he's so greedy? why they just didn't do the firmware update for the current yoke to make it work with xbox? why they need to release an additional "updated" yoke for PC & XBOX? this is BS an seems like another idea to grab more money. Just a simple firware update will make it work with consoles because they same as PC's but whatever.

[@hajoberlin12103]

Schon wieder in english

[@paulthurston2883]

You can't get to the switches easily as the throttle levers are in the way. Similar situation with the trim wheel and gear lever. Way too close together. A shit design all round.