Brazil's First Domestic Armored Vehicle, the Cutia | Cursed by Design

[@ConeOfArc]

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[@Prussia_MC]

first

[@Nave4x4]

If, in the future, you need help pronouncing Portuguese names and titles let me know. 😉 You butchered some of them really bad this time man...

[@lelanderickson1045]

I did indeed, and as one fan of the FCM 36 to another, I'm wondering if you ever plan to do a video on the weird and wonderful/downright insane interwar proposals for French armored fighting vehicles that probably thankfully never got any further than the scale model or mock up stage.

[@Blockhaj]

Yo, this is far from the first Brazilian AFV. Look up Minas Geraes, Parahyba and Rio Grande do Sul and be amazed.

[@Slakrrrrrr]

Only Brazil's engineers would see the scary things in the Amazon rainforest and think "yeah, we could do better".

[@furinick]

"Nah, I'd win"

[@banananoodles]

​@@furinick Always bet on the Brazilian

[@Account_abandoned-q7m]

FORÇA BRASIL 🇧🇷🔥

[@ulacylon-timetrio9664]

@@Account_abandoned-q7mStill dealing with cartels 😂 El Salvador is better

[@jacaredosvudu1638]

​@@ulacylon-timetrio9664easy to just arrest everybody

[@MrPPCLI]

We just have to look at it as it was meant to be: a learning tool, as this would have been virtually useless in combat. You can't start off by building an Abrams tank without any experience- what Brazil failed to do at the time was to take the lessons learned and create something better, and then something even better after that...

[@naamadossantossilva4736]

We did the create something better part.Our failure was way after that.

[@toucan2227]

​@@naamadossantossilva4736 Engesa bit more than it could chew. The Osório was not feasible, unfortunately. The Tamoyo was a lot better. But we brazillians always need to reivent the wheel, to make a better product in every way so we can prove we're just as good.. even if the project isn't really reliable or cost effective. Unless we change our minds about these things, we will never get there. At least Embraer has the right mindset. Built a plane that was actually needed and feasible, that could be sold internationally because the competition is not as strong or has too many issues - and they did so two times, with the C-390 and the EMB-314(A-29). Engesa failed because it tried to compete directly with proven tank manufacturers that posessed advanced native systems(and the capability of producing them locally) along with great logistical support.

[@operator1763]

As a Brazilian I can confirm the fail of the Brazil armored vehicles is fault of non interest of the govern

[@gabrielneves6602]

F Osório, vamos sempre nos lembrar dele

[@operator1763]

@@gabrielneves6602 sim mano nem me fala.......

[@potatouno]

País abandonado por Deus e amaldiçoado por seus burocratas.

[@Marcos-ms1ij]

​@@gabrielneves6602 n esquecer o Tamoyo

[@nhienleminhhue6605]

Brazil is a largely pieceful country with some other none lethal threat, so I can understand your government's apathetical, but still South Easslt Asian Nations are gonna like those tanks if it comes with lisense for domestic production

[@jessicaluchesi]

ROFL!! "Gambiarra Fueled Design" made me laugh so hard I almost spilled what I was drinking ^^ Yes, it is the most Gambiarra style design possible.

[@Ob1sdarkside]

It's like a modern version of the universal carrier. Could have been useful with a bit of tweaking

[@kanrakucheese]

Yeah, I'm surprised the Bren/Universal Carrier wasn't mentioned in the video. It seems the natural comparison

[@guaposneeze]

Call me crazy, but I have always been a fan of light "tankette" designs. The recent Bradley vs Russian tank duel was a good demonstration that "the vehicle you have" is often more useful than putting all your eggs in a few superheavy baskets. Those light vehicles are also way easier to actually retool an auto industry to manufacture.

[@Ranyick]

You are crazy

[@ВерныйСоюзник]

I remember, in one game I like super small drone tankettes with absurdly thick armor. Like if you sacrifice speed and mobility and left only volume-effective weapon, you still can have thick armor and be reasonably lightweight.

[@huslethal]

??? Did you not see the entire video??? The Bradley knocked out the optics of the Russian tank and continued to pummel the view slots of the commander effectively making the tank blind. The commander could not see where the Bradley was because of all the sparks and smoke and the Bradley was still moving around. A drone operator saw the duel and dropped an explosive above the Russian tank, effectively knocking it out. To me, that video is more of showing the Ukrainian crew's tactical smarts, knowing it was outmatched in armour and firepower, they decide to make it blind and use their maneuverability advantage to not give the Russian tank a chance.

[@guaposneeze]

@@huslethal Yeah, sounds like we are talking about the same video. "Distributed lethality" worked well for Ukraine in that case. I've seen some argue that the small gun mission-killing the tank instead of hard killing it with penetration was somehow cheating, and it isn't. If you can have cheap 30mm guns somewhere a tank will attack, combined with better sensors, mobility, fire control, and tactics, mission killing the tank and letting a drone to cleanup is a perfectly practical antitank doctrine. It's a lot more practical than trying to have heavy MBT's everywhere that an enemy tank might attack because those are expensive so you'll have more gaps in your lines, and you'll be offering fewer and juicier targets to the enemy drones.

[@timbrwolf1121]

I've been suggesting a "Miscellaneous Nations" tree for nearly a decade now

[@neutr4l1zer]

Too generic and wouldnt made sense in rb

[@cosmosyn2514]

@@neutr4l1zerwe DEMAND bob semple

[@luckyl3v1]

what??@@neutr4l1zer

[@pyroparagon8945]

​@@neutr4l1zerrb doesn't make sense anyway as BR smashes together different time periods.

[@Theoneandonlyfridgedj]

@@neutr4l1zerrb doesn’t even make sense to begin with. Why can you see a leopard in a Sherman

[@McRocket]

It has (perhaps) the skinniest tracks I have ever seen on a combat vehicle. ☮

[@ulforcemegamon3094]

Yeah , i'm pretty sure that if you Made a bipedal mech of the same size , the ground pressure would still be lower than compared to these thin tracks 😂

[@realhorrorshow8547]

@@ulforcemegamon3094Or even, y'know, wheels

[@coldiceEVO]

they should have used timing belt

[@leonardorodrigues827]

Really very good, I'm Brazilian and I see the Brazilian tank projects like the Osório and the Tamoyo, it's a shame that they didn't do well in the domestic and foreign market. Brazil also made several improvised tanks at the time of the 1932 revolution, both in armored car designs and in tanks and even in armored trains, they are improvised but are very interesting to see how original they were in their simplicity.

[@_____Skywalker_____]

Your pronunciations of brasilian's names are very funny, guess we all do that in foreign languages XD Loved the video BRASIL MENTIONED!!!

[@Panzer_Tracks]

Brazil mentioned

[@NauticalAce]

Finally, Brazil mentioned once again

[@DanielLopes-uo7qo]

wtf is a honest government!!!!

[@KorianHUN]

BOJLER ELADÓ... oh wait, wrong country.

[@40nakedniggasonahugespacecraft]

What the fuck is not being ugly and mixed and having an IQ above room temperature...

[@razen9766]

Sadly :(

[@lelanderickson1045]

A little detail of interest is that in the photo showing an M41 Walker Bulldog and two jeeps, one of the jeeps is armed with a Danish Madsen light machine gun, a weapon of pre-WW1 origins. IIRC there are still a few short barreled Madsens still in use in some Brazillian police departments, a testament to the design's durability and reliability.

[@Simon_Nonymous]

I saw it too, and yes it's still out there in Brasil in police units, usually with no bipod I think.

[@ReHerakhte]

​@Simon_Nonymous and rechambered in 7.62 x 51mm Look up Brazilian military police fighting gangs in the favelas and you can find footage of them in use

[@lelanderickson1045]

@@ReHerakhte I've seen a still shot of Brazilian police officer using a Madsen (short barrel, no bipod) engaged in such operations. Rather impressive that a firearm of such vintage is not simply still in firing order, but still being used in official service.

[@naamadossantossilva4736]

Or our fucked up weapons procurement.

[@lelanderickson1045]

@@naamadossantossilva4736 procuring effective, reliable small arms isn't all that difficult nor is it that relatively expensive AFAIK, including procuring military grade small arms. So is bureaucratic ineptitude why the old Madsens are still in service, or is it more a case of "waste not, want not?"

[@zeboy475]

As a Brazilian I feel obligated to tell you there's so much more to make videos about. From the EE-4 Ogum to the various models of EE-9 to both EE-17/18 prototypes and of course the EE-11 Urutu, without forgetting the X1A and X1A1 pioneiro and the X1A2 Carcara

[@Dutch_machu]

WE MUST GET LATINO TECH TREE

[@THEbf110man]

The gepard in the premium tree would be the only 2nd premium SPAA in the game

[@notazombie...notatall8577]

Watching Coneofark speak português is amazing 😂 i loved this video i love all your videos, keep it up!

[@victorgutemberg2786]

love to see Brazil getting some atention on this topic, thanks for the video :D

[@gearandalthefirst7027]

When you showed that first photo of the Cutia I started wheeze-laughing so hard I cried

[@henryrodgers7386]

With big wide tracks, this would be great for South America. A sort of tracked Jeep. Bonus, if you could build an amphibious version. I love little multipurpose vehicles, they tend to wind up with fascinating, varied models. The closest thing I can think of is the Argo family of multiwheeled utility vehicles, which are fairly common in the central US. They take a small group of people basically anywhere. Sad this little thing never took off, but I'm glad you covered it!

[@joaovitornbredias2673]

Brazil is good at strategies and innovations since we invented something for the business that we call gambiarra here, and we were the first to have electric cars but it didn't go ahead because anyone from Brazil already knows that the guy's death was suspicious. (I´m am brazilian)

[@anonbefallen4807]

I'd love to see videos covering more of the vehicles on this hypothetical tree.

[@neves5083]

Didn't knew we made that, thanks

[@superdupergrover9857]

To be honest though, this is much better than average for a first attempt.

[@marcelocosta2612]

Uau, sou inscrito deste canal já faz algum tempo e foi uma total surpresa esse vídeo falando sobre um blindado brasileiro! Absolutamente incrível!

[@RaeSyngKane]

From the first picture of it the track width stood out. It looks thinner than a CV 33’s tracks.

[@gabrielamaral-ob4wx]

Obrigado Cone por falar sobre o Brasil, sucesso para o canal e prosperidade ❤❤🇧🇷

[@kauangarcia9236]

4:26 I imagine this guy in WT

[@santiagogarcia236]

Could you do video about the many brazilian stuart modifications like xlf40 that is stuart hull with three big rockets

[@GuilhermeM-B-v4i]

2:24 OPALA MENTIONED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF IS FUEL ECONOMY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@operator1763]

Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

[@razor1uk610]

As a first attempt which basically started off as as a Military Engineering College's after hours class project, onto becoming a technical industrial starting point.. ...albeit with Brazil's prior years of some minor military parts & growing systems productions to work from, as well as operating foreign armour , ...it is mot bad at al compared to many nations own individual 1st attempts. While far from service capable, it wasn't so far from being potentially developable into something akin to alike the JSDF'sType 73cAPC, but in a smaller package. As it was, it was trimmed down alot like a well shaven bush, and needed development time to grow thicker and stronger before being shaved where approximately bedded.

[@robert-trading-as-Bob69]

Basically a roomier version of the British Carden Lloyd Universal Carrier (Bren Carrier) as used by the Allies during WWII.

[@darkninjacorporation]

The fact that you can still get cheap but good quality firearms in America that’ve been imported from Brazil speaks volumes.

[@lukabrdar6732]

Wich one

[@fitzachella]

RAHHH (Talk about the Leyland armoured car or landsvark L60)

[@guilhermewehner578]

Gambiarra fueled design got me laughing pretty hard 😂

[@futuconitro]

I love how you pronounce words in Portuguese

[@manofflorida1138]

An unironic and fitting name for such a cute vehicle

[@DavidSterkenburg-gg4ec]

With the Open topped vehicle it looks a bit like cabriolet to me

[@Keelo.]

ConeOfArc have you ever thought of the idea of using the game "Sprocket" to create the blueprint or historical tanks that footage may not be available for and use them as footage or maybe even do a story on the tanks and yeah use the game to represent it? just a thought

[@alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723]

In Romanian that means box that pretty much sums its up were our word of it came from,

[@johninnh4880]

Reminds me of the "Bren Gun Carrier". Well sorta.

[@DarkestVampire92]

The entire concept from start to finish is over 30 years behind the times, but its better than nothing.

[@guilhermealvesnunes1876]

"Brazillian Gambiarra fueled design" really caught me off guard! I'm cracking!! Lol

[@davidjernigan8161]

It's better than the WWII Italian tankettes especially as a first attempt to build something.

[@JGCR59]

That technical college building is an amazingly modern building for the 30s

[@Astorath_the_Grim]

The track is so thin.

[@anonymous-ts5ih]

I saw that thumbnail and was thinking: a armoured convertible from brazil? Yeah looks reasonable

[@mateimarian1937]

The names funny to me cause "Cutia" means "The box" in my language.

[@cjthebeesknees]

Brad Pitt: What’s in the box!? 😭

[@luizgabrieloliveirafurlan3542]

ConeOfArc , i expect you known what you did. You summoned the brazilians , the comment section is ours now.

[@imjustthere9343]

The Warthunder DLC looks pretty sick

[@Gurtanic_1912]

We need a Analyse of you about the tecktree to the Sturmtiger of Wot. Its in the Console Version but i dont know if its in the normal Version too

[@thunderousavenger2382]

Its not. Only on console.

[@Just-My-Clips]

Hey Cone, can you make a video on Polish tanks?

[@dallor714]

these tanks kinda crazy ngl (i havent watched the video)

[@rapipocudo8690]

2:46 I know our language is hard, but i cant help myself but laugh as you try to say "Exército" - Army in english You say it like: Ezército, not exer cito.. if that makes sense..

[@rapipocudo8690]

Also, at 5:44 The correct pronunciation is "Enje nha aria" (you need to make the R sound. Like in Ariana), not enguen raria

[@armjack420]

​@@rapipocudo8690tu sabe que os americanos nao sabem como se pronuncia o h em "nha",

[@eisernenfuchs123]

Cone, bro... Think you're in my War Thunder match currently

[@eisernenfuchs123]

I'm very sorry for juking you out when you dove on me and tried to shoot me down on Abandoned Factory

[@canalqualquer4368]

As a Brazilian, i did not know this vehicle existed

[@pedromaurutto]

BRAZIL MENTIONED!!!! BRASIL NUMERO 1!!!!!!!

[@arthurbrax6561]

5:34 the jeep in the middle has a Madsen machinegun

[@Brobobobobobobo]

Lol the m3 stuart with the 90 mm always gets me its so goofy 🤣

[@btbd2785]

Thr Osorio did better than any other tankin competition. Sad that they couldnt find buyers!

[@VelhaHH]

brasil made a bmp before the bmp

[@FurryPlayz]

i think of all the cursed Brazilian tanks out there, nothing can top the X1A. Its literally a M3 Stuart hull, with a modified M41 Bulldog turret, with a short barreled 90mm gun.

[@swappy89]

Now I'm thinking Is there any tank with steers control but definitely not the wheeled one, but the fully tracked one 🤔

[@blasekiller9733]

Yes, both the Brazilian Osorio and Tamoyo vehicles had a steering wheel for example

[@swappy89]

@@blasekiller9733 Cheers, thanks for telling me

[@ConeOfArc]

Quite a few vehicles use a sort of steering wheel compared to tillers including some German tanks from WW2 if I recall correctly

[@marinaknez7562]

Could you do Yugoslavian M95 Degman?

[@jamesocker5235]

If it was Alpha based it must have broken a lot. a boxer motor would point to air cooled VW motor as Brasília built lots of VWs

[@jamesocker5235]

The in-line Alfa motor shown was no boxer motor, the vow motor would also have the advantage of being air cooled vs water cooled

[@gabrielkiev4290]

The VW wouldn't even be able to move it from it's place. I think by the time the Alfa engine was the best option

[@vectorprime3719]

hold on cover up the seats with a layer of metal, put a turret ring on it, put a tiger turret and it looks like a tiger with the hullshape

[@JayFochs1337]

With those spaghetti thin tracks I'd be terrified to take it off track lol

[@hereticpariah6_66]

Don't see videos going into an ad That quickly very often...😂😂

[@tomcat2395]

It reminds me alot if a panzer 1 that’s been converted for training

[@lucasmoreno2154]

I'm brazilian and i didn't even know about this vehicle, lol.

[@LuixWalkingDead21]

"Gambiarra Fueled Design" yup, you got the brazilian spirit, we'll do anything based on Gambiarra

[@theWarVet]

OKay folks.. this shoulda been obvious BUTT, a convertable "Armored Vehicle" is basically neither and will fail spectacularly at both tasks. You can't "feel the wind in your hair" moving through rough terrain at 10mph but YOU CAN definitely get blown TF up, set on fire, or just pelted with stones having no roof.. deeeerp.

[@georgecristiancripcia4819]

I am not brazilian but in my language(romanian) cutia means box and is written exactly like this C-U-T-I-A

[@soares8802]

In portuguese Cutia is a little rodent.

[@apocako]

Gambiarra! Now we feel understood.

[@johncashwell1024]

Wow, those are all but useless! Ground pressure issues? When there isn't even enough track surface area to actually calculate, there's going to be ground pressure problems. Basically, that poor little vehicle had all its weight supported on the ground by it road wheels alone. Still, not bad for a 1st time attempt.

[@gabrielkiev4290]

Even the whells are Alfa Romeo

[@Chaz_Enjoyer]

Hetzer plushie?

[@markholmphotography]

War Thunder - where people leak military secrets - I’ll pass

[@nekomataayumi1762]

Infelizmente o governo brasileiro não tem tanto interesse no ramo militar ainda mais que o Brasil e conhecido como um Pais neutro então as chances de desenvolvimento militar são quase nulas kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk F Osório

[@alias_aka_alias]

Oh look, a homegrown Bren carrier

[@FreedomFighterEx]

Those narrow tracks made me uncomfortable.

[@Ksescel]

That just looks like something my cousin from the Appalachians would drive to work

[@juancortapan7845]

honestly, the design is not bad at all. just close the roof, add wider tracks and put a recoiless rifle on top and you have a more than decent vehicle

[@thurin84]

tracks remind me of the ford m1918 3 ton tank.

[@user.404.0]

breaking news: sekret documents leaked on war thunder forums again

[@RifleRaptorYT]

Brazil mentioned, video= good

[@Beanzenjoyer76]

Cone of SARC

[@FMKeb]

The TAM is in the German tree tho.

[@sizskie]

no hate, god bless you, but the way you pronounced exército had me rollin

[@christophervanoster]

It’s weird to see countries making their first home grown design. Look at this thing, New Zealand, and Australia. New Zealand made the abomination that is the bob semple, and Brazil made this thing. But then the Australians come out of left field and make the AC1 which by all accounts when it was made was a fairly capable tank especially when compared to contemporary Japanese designs

[@ScoutSniper3124]

Just 50 years too late to be a cutting edge design for WW1

[@joenuts5167]

But football

[@madcatmk213]

does anyone know mexico used to have m2 and m5 tanks?

[@connivingkhajiit]

Yes please to the Latin American tech tree!

[@2BitSkits]

If you no come to brazil BRAZIL COME TO YOU

[@FilipHrkač2Hrkač]

Croatia next!!!

[@maksymzvarych8895]

This cutia reminds me about m22 locust 💀☠️☠️☠️

[@NikolaosKorelis]

Wait ,how you can extract magnesium from water

[@fabreezethefaintinggoat5484]

it also means box in Romanian, or case to be more precise

[@sinisterisrandom8537]

The Cutia is so cute.

[@BarManFesteiro]

when he said brazillian gambiarra i felt that

[@ForceM1782]

That technical military school is build in the most brutalistic 50’s soviet blocky style imaginable… in a beautiful beach location that looks like a tropical paradise. Those student’s must have gotten schizophrenia in no time. Just saying!

[@avnrulz8587]

The Cutie? Lol