Breaking News: Insider REVEALS ALL 2025 Ram HD Specs Before You’re Supposed To Know Them!

[@DavidBrown-jt7yi]

Just skip to the 5-minute mark if you don't want to hear people talk in circles and say nothing. 1. CP4-x 2. Still a 6.7 3. 8 speed ZF Transmission 4. HP/Torque- 430HP 1075PFT 5. Only 1 engine choice now. Basically, the HO version of the current Cummins. 6. Same hydraulic lifters, no change. 7. New Block- Going away from CGI and going back to the older design So basically, not too much of an update which might be a good thing. People want more reliable trucks, and we want to get rid of the DPF crap. Innovation should win the day, but it seems like most manufactures struggle with upgraded EPA related components.

[@bryandepiazzy8679]

Not all hero’s wear capes

[@NorWis744]

I own a 3.0 liter diesel Suburban. It has been reliable and efficient. It tows my travel trailer and boat well. I like the DPF system. I like clean air. Multiple members of my family have asthma. I will never own a diesel without modern pollution controls. Time to retire the old diesels particularly two stroke diesels.

[@Math-zl8kq]

They really needed to make a 20 minutes video for such little informations!

[@scottythebody0811]

@@NorWis744 Yeah, campfires too. We can camp with a solar powered , AI generated “fire”.

[@livewire2k4]

@@NorWis744 well after the epa is gone and we don't have to deal with dp filters anymore, you can still ask for one for your truck and destroy it by 200k miles. enjoy.

[@Nobody_important_at_all]

Should talk about good news of the CDJR CEO stepping down. Guy couldn't sell water in a desert.

[@FlameBlue9016]

@@Nobody_important_at_all Your not wrong Carlos Tarves couldn’t sell Water in Hell.

[@dillonh321]

@@FlameBlue9016 he couldn’t sell tickets to heaven in hell.

[@robertfootball1]

He will be replaced by another fool

[@josephmiguel1048]

Hopefully he’ll be replaced by an old school American that knows about American culture and economy, plus that most Americans don’t want electric vehicles IMO.

[@williamsmith9621]

But he got a 56% raise in 2023- to 39.5 million dollars! Then in 2024 the company loses nearly 40% of its value.

[@Link-we8so]

How much power does a pick-up need? Id rather see them focus on other things like reliability fuel economy and quality. The current Cummins is already strong

[@Jay-me7gw]

430hp is only really needed if you are towing 20,000+ lbs up 7% grades. Torque is always nice though. It makes towing more relaxing.

[@ck1abe515]

Exactly! Reliability is a big concern across all vehicle manufacturers, if Ram focused more on that and better quality parts manufacturing, Ram could bring in lots of new customers and repeat customers for years to come, but it remains to be seen whether ram Chrysler stellantis will step up to the challenge

[@karlw426]

I am a truck driver both semi and long distance pickup truck delivering Campers. Is it just me or is there a secret agenda as to why a 2500-3500 pickups need to have more power then semi trucks had in the 1950's that hauled bigger loads then what any pickup will ever haul or pull i might add ?? Here is a secret revealed: more power = fuel wasted and wear/tare for the truck owner but more more money for fuel companies, tow truck drivers, garages, etc. Now what would you rather have? All a pickup needs is 250 hp Cummins with about 600 ft lbs torque. Remember the 1st Legend in the pickup industry that rocked the world: the 1989 Ram 250 5.9 Cummins with 160 hp and 400 ft lbs torque and that was a great puller already pleanty capable. If someone wants crazy pickup power then build a race truck with the executioner race engine with 3200 hp on a single turbo based on a 6 cylinder Ram Cummins engine and go have fun on the weekends!! My 2007.5 Ram 3500 has 976,000 miles on original injectors and cp fuel pump and engine never opened up... Can somebody please tell me why they are fussing about changing to a different cp fuel pump? Like whats the problem? To reliable and not selling enough replacement pumps or what? VEHICLES ARE TO BE BUILT TO LAST THE LONGEST POSSIBLE FOR THE CONSUMER AND TO NEED AS FEW REPAIRS AS POSSIBLE DURING ITS LIFE OR THE OWNERS LIFETIME AND TO CONSTANTLY GET BETTER ON FUEL YEAR BY YEAR... IF MANUFACTURERS FAIL TO OPERATE BY THAT STANDARD THEN THEY ARE HEADED FOR A COLLAPSE IN THE LONG RUN. have a great day everyone 🙏

[@johnhahn8464]

​@@Jay-me7gwtowing is all about torque.

[@johnhahn8464]

​​​​​​@@karlw426there's obviously legitimate and accurate things to your comment. Yet who has ever complained about having too much power? With advanced technology with turbos direct injection electronics transmission etc it's so much easier to make big power. Loads have gotten bigger and many jobs can be done without a semi. An entire industry has been created with hot shot haulers because of all the advancements. I tow in the mountains and use turn outs as much as possible but if i had more power i could keep my momentum and speed not have to use every turnout. It's always better to have extra payload power and brakes then be overloaded and kill innocent people who have no idea someone is dangerous and way over capacity. Even if your only towing 10k-15k what wrong with having 25k capacity and not even know the load is back there being totally stressed out?

[@alexandersheppard1997]

NOBODY CAN AFFORD THESE TRUCKS ANYMORE!

[@krane15]

So don't even bother making video?

[@johntarlton6691]

As a commercial truck driver, I have plenty of experience knowing that horsepower means very little in diesel engines. It's all about torque. My truck has 300HP but will still haul 80k no problem

[@Jay-me7gw]

depends what you mean by tow. My lawn tractor can "tow" 80000 lbs with enough gearing.

[@cynicaltruth7486]

Yeah idk why people look at HP. Its all about torque

[@Slane583]

My father's fuel trucks are only rated for 230hp and he's able to deliver fuel just fine. Everyone is horse power crazy on all of these new trucks so it's no wonder there's engine problems.

[@truckguy6.7]

@@Slane583 It's amazing how many people buy a truck off of a test drive without hauling anything. Thats the benefit of horsepower.

[@Slane583]

@@truckguy6.7 Indeed. My truck has 4x4 but it's mostly for dealing with bad weather in the winter. If I want to go off-road that's what my dirt bikes are for. It may be my daily driver but it's also used for hauling stuff when we need to do dump runs or to get stuff from the nursery. Heck, I can't even fit people in my back seats because they're occupied with tool boxes. :)

[@GarageGeek]

Updated CP4? Heard that one before... Still have to worry about lifter failure.... My 2019 has had at least 5 recalls and was just in the shop for a MONTH with a bad DPF at only 31k miles. I just swapped that "updated CP4" out under a recall, and now they are putting it back in. It makes me laugh. Do not be naïve like I was in 2019, Cummins engines in these trucks stopped being reliable after 2018. I will never buy a RAM again.

[@oldironguy]

I think the addition of the ZF powerline 8spd is going to be the key to this new 6.7 combination. There will be Huge improvements in power and acceleration even with the small gains in rated power. The ZF 8spd is what these Rams have needed for a long long time.

[@alanorin7167]

The front end looks like the Wagon Queen family Truckster

[@niksemjonovs1711]

Ill stick with my 06 5.9l. Simple design and reliable. I don't need a all that hp just to brag to my neighbors.

[@hellkitty1014]

Maybe with Carlos out of here after butchering CDJR, they can bring back an updated HEMI...and Gen 5 cab for HDs at long last.

[@borisscepanovic1684]

RAM doesn't have much time to get back on the tracks.They have to show up with some kind of 3.0 diesel engine for 1500.GMC/Chevrolet are selling 1500 pretty good thanks to Duramax.They can also experiment with 5.7 HEMI but not right now.

[@nathanm8921]

Only reason I got another 1500 is because they still have the old cabs

[@gorillaplays8926]

@@hellkitty1014 They should make a double cab with an 8 foot bed

[@jdfleetguy28]

@@gorillaplays8926 I agree that would be nice, but seems more and more that configuration is going by the wayside. Ford dropped it in 2024 for the F150 now HD only. Toyota is the only one left in the 1/2 ton segment. Ford and Chevy are the only 2 still in the game for that configuration in the HD class.

[@Ratkill9000]

​@@nathanm8921Ram 1500 classic is out of production now. New body only. Hemi is gone.

[@kcp7042]

Still waiting for Ram to do something about the HD gas engine. Whether they do go to a gas Cummins, or a new Hemi, they need to release some information about it.

[@dillonh321]

I think they are going to stick with the old Hemi.

[@Ratkill9000]

That's under embargo until January 25, 2025. That's when the embargo should be lifted. The Hemi is gone. It's either a gas version of the 6.7 Cummins or something else all together.

[@oldironguy]

What embargo? Tell us more please! ​@Ratkill9000

[@olebloom1641]

I would like to see Cummins engines becoming bullet proof again.

[@MichaelSmith-kr9qw]

Getting rid of the grid heater is a step in the right direction.

[@benlomond8055]

I installed a Banks Ram Air on my 2023' 2500 got a little off paid a little over $800 for it and have peace of mind now with that heater grid gone!!! Heater coil on the Banks is in the elbo which is cool but a surprise benefit of the Banks intake elbow is my milage went up!!! The Banks will easily pay for itself over the next year or so :)

[@bryandepiazzy8679]

@@benlomond8055 I wouldn’t be bragging about spending money on the banks elbow. Only gains is banks wallet.

[@Michael-1337]

@@bryandepiazzy8679 it's a good product but you have to take the engine beyond stock configuration before you see really good returns from it.

[@karlw426]

I am a truck driver both semi and long distance pickup truck delivering Campers. Is it just me or is there a secret agenda as to why a 2500-3500 pickups need to have more power then semi trucks had in the 1950's that hauled bigger loads then what any pickup will ever haul or pull i might add ?? Here is a secret revealed: more power = fuel wasted and wear/tare for the truck owner but more more money for fuel companies, tow truck drivers, garages, etc. Now what would you rather have? All a pickup needs is 250 hp Cummins with about 600 ft lbs torque. Remember the 1st Legend in the pickup industry that rocked the world: the 1989 Ram 250 5.9 Cummins with 160 hp and 400 ft lbs torque and that was a great puller already pleanty capable. If someone wants crazy pickup power then build a race truck with the executioner race engine with 3200 hp on a single turbo based on a 6 cylinder Ram Cummins engine and go have fun on the weekends!! My 2007.5 Ram 3500 has 976,000 miles on original injectors and cp fuel pump and engine never opened up... Can somebody please tell me why they are fussing about changing to a different cp fuel pump? Like whats the problem? To reliable and not selling enough replacement pumps or what? VEHICLES ARE TO BE BUILT TO LAST THE LONGEST POSSIBLE FOR THE CONSUMER AND TO NEED AS FEW REPAIRS AS POSSIBLE DURING ITS LIFE OR THE OWNERS LIFETIME AND TO CONSTANTLY GET BETTER ON FUEL YEAR BY YEAR... IF MANUFACTURERS FAIL TO OPERATE BY THAT STANDARD THEN THEY ARE HEADED FOR A COLLAPSE IN THE LONG RUN. have a great day everyone 🙏

[@JonesDieselPerforman]

I have the zf8hp65 in a bmw x5 diesel. It is an absolutely amazing transmission. I could not be happier with it. A heavy duty version of this behind the new Cummins should be a game changer for ram The AS69RC 6 speed Aisin is a very reliable,proven HD transmission but is a slow shifting unit and no one has figured out how to get past the locked out TCM to be able to tune it,unfortunately.

[@scottyellis3442]

I just want to thank the whole team over at TFL in front of & behind the camera for keeping us up to date on new trucks & the manufacturer's. Great job on everything.👍🏻👍🏻

[@goneawol7498]

😂 2500 with more payload….it’s called a 3500….

[@9663mu]

When there are half tons with more payload then your hd truck , then you got issues. And that’s dodge ram 🐏 lamb

[@PrestonGladd]

@@9663mu HD does not exclusively mean high payloads, it means reliability in consistently hard and tough use conditions. Look at the Ram 5500, it doesn't have the HO engine as an option, it just has a beefier frame which gives it a higher payload and allows for harder use (plows, cherry pickers etc), while still using the standard cummins engine for longevity and reliability. The half ton truck might have a higher payload, but look at them both in 20 years, which one is starting to wear out and needs lots of maintenance.

[@kellyheath8547]

3/4 tons used to be 10k gvwr. Ram has stuck to that mostly and the others bumped that up higher to keep payload numbers up as trucks got more features and more capabilities.

[@sledforpeace]

@@kellyheath8547 But they lose the 9900# advantages of the ‘’true’’ 2500

[@marcochavanne]

@@PrestonGladd The 5500 most importantly has the wider and beefier front axles.

[@BryanRichardson-s3v]

We want quality, reliability, affordable, no rust or rot the price you pay these days should last 20 years , if not junk like today , need fuel economy

[@TevisC]

350hp 600-700# of torque is enough for any HD truck. Remember, these are pickups!!! If you need more capability, you're buying the wrong class of truck!! WTF TFL, you are part of the problem of the continuous one up... The 2004 Ram 5.9ctd was enough for grossing all a class D license can tow.

[@dillonh321]

I need moe passin power when I towin meh campin rig at 85 mile er howah on the inta-state.

[@jeffclark4008]

You must not tow more than a 12' u-haul trailer if you think that's all you need. You people are something else. If you don't need 500hp, or the most tq you can get, than get a half ton truck and shut up about it. I would hate to try to pull my toy hauler with crap hp and tq figures like that. It would be a struggle. Maybe stay in your small trailer towing lane there buddy.

[@dillonh321]

@@jeffclark4008 I’m sorry buddy. 20 years ago people were towing 14k lbs 5th wheel campers with 300-350 hp and 550-600 ft lbs of torque without any issues. You don’t need to be rocketing down the freeway in your truck. People speeding and swerving around traffic is why I always see at least one rolled over camper on the interstate every season.

[@jeffclark4008]

@@dillonh321 Those trailers you're talking about, were nothing compared to what is being pulled around today. I have a 47' toy hauler, combined weight is 30,000lbs, you don't want to be pulling that with a 350hp engine, but go ahead and reflect back on the 15k trailers from 20 years ago that have nothing to do with today. And nobody is "rocketing down the freeway", I don't know why old people like you have to go there when that's not the reason for having more power. Having that big take off and passing power is a whole lot better than not having it, but you go ahead and put your 1999 dodge under a serious strain on that 8% grade with that 12,000lb trailer while also being over its payload. You guys complain about these newer trucks having more power, more payload and more capacity while also having a ton of safety and control features all you want, I'm going to use them. Just say you hate the fact that Ram chooses to lose its ass on the highway and in every other performance category instead of hiding behind what used to be the standard 20 years ago.

[@armandolucero4306]

My 2004 5.9 Cummins with a turbo and injector upgrade has towed my 36' travel trailer and usually maxed out payload up every mountain in Colorado without any problem. Even if I left it stock and it struggled up steep inclines, I still prefer the reliability and efficiency of this engine which you won't get with any new truck of any make.

[@mononc420]

TFL, the one real question you need to ask Stellantis is: when are they finally going to update the cab and bed? Why do all of this work to just use a 16 year old cab and bed design? The fact that they still have it is utterly ridiculous, it should have died with the classic trucks, but it really should have died with the redesign of the half tons in 2019.

[@TFLtruck]

Indeed.

[@notme3184]

The 4th gen has been around since 2010 with like 4 mid-cycle refreshes. It's crazy.

[@dillonh321]

I assume there were some financial constraints and so they reused the old cab for HD trucks instead of developing and retooling a new one. Even though Ram trucks were selling well in the late twenty teens the rest of the FCA portfolio was not doing well and so Ram and Jeep was supporting the development of vehicles outside of their division in edition to their own causing budget constraints within Ram and Jeep. Now Stellantis is in even worse shape and I have a feeling it won’t happen anytime soon.

[@mcwilliamsda]

@@mononc420 like maybe a mega cab with a 6ft bed!?

[@strykerentllc]

@@mcwilliamsda close, that cab with an 8 foot bed is the deal. No need to leave the tailgate down after loading up with 4X8 sheets of drywall, full sheets of plywood and stud length 2X4's. Plenty of room for the crew, tools, and materials. These 6 foot beds are pretty much useless for remodelers that earn a living with pickups.

[@mitchstein288]

Thanks guys, love the Andre's Garage segments. I know you and everyone else were hoping for class leading power numbers, but it's important to consider what Cummins is known for, which is Ag and heavy industry. In those fields, "class leading power" takes a back seat to reliability and efficiency. I'll give up a little horsepower (15 years ago these power numbers would've been crazy) for good old Cummins reliability. Keep the Andre's Garage segments coming, they're literally my favorite videos on all TFL channels.

[@wickertwm]

The consumer also has to be able to afford a new truck. Truck prices are insane and they can't sell them now, if they go up in price by another 10 or 15 percent then the number of people willing to dish out this kind of money will also decrease and they will be able to sell even fewer trucks thus having to increase price once again because the sales are so low. This becomes a spiral that we have to get out of. You can buy them for your show and write it off, but the average American can no longer afford trucks like this. We have to get back to basics once more. Presently the "average" American income is approximately $58,500.00 per year. Buying a truck for more than $100,000.00 makes no sense. You still have to pay a mortgage for a home, clothing, kids, food, health care ect... Putting down almost 2 yrs of income for a truck that depreciates as soon as it is off the lot is insane.

[@krane15]

How much should they cost?

[@sleeeper88]

My 2008 duramax with twin turbos will out tow anything new. Built the trans and upgraded fuel system. 650 hp 1300 torque. Been rock solid, 1050 degree exhaust temp towing 14k. Truck is a beast

[@gnd111]

Same with Fords, Same with Cummins...

[@markdubois4882]

So will a friend of mine's 75 Pete 359 Long Nose with a twin turboed 12V71 2-stroke Detroit. 930 HP, 2450 lb.ft, and screams to 3000 rpm only 14 psi boost.

[@carymcreynolds]

Who cares the horsepower. It is a 12v71, they turn diesel into music far better than any other engine.

[@markdubois4882]

@@carymcreynolds Damn right! Has the two sticks too.

[@carymcreynolds]

@ Those take talent to drive.

[@jensalan]

People are always asking for more. That's why our mid sized trucks of today feel just as big as the full sized trucks from 25 years ago.

[@gittyupalice96]

yeah its hilarious actually, the new 1/2 ton trucks are the size of the 90's 1 ton trucks, and the 1 ton trucks, are the size the 5 ton trucks used to be.. Its called (power creep) Personally what a stock 7.3 powerstroke had for power with 2000 was more than enough for me, anything beyond that is just for fun not work.

[@tyler87kelley]

Go buy a mavrick if you want something smaller.

[@ALMX5DP]

My prior 99 F-150 still feels wider and longer than a modern midsize. Maybe not as tall or high off the ground (bigger tires and more emphasis on offroading has caused that), but it still is bigger in some key areas.

[@Ratkill9000]

Because they are the same size as the full size half tons from 25 years ago. CAFE standards are the problem.

[@jensalan]

@@Ratkill9000 When they originally announced the 4th gen Tacoma, Toyota talked about how the dimensions remained the same from the 3rd gen. But what did change was the wheelbase. They had to lengthen the wheelbase to meet CAFE requirements which is obsurd.

[@Mike-mi3yw]

I don’t think anyone really cares if they have fallen behind if they are reliable. Reliability is really a hot button right now

[@lesalbro8880]

The problem is that reliability can only be proven over time. Greater power output is something that can be a selling point immediately.

[@Mike-mi3yw]

@@lesalbro8880this is true. I wish more manufacturers had the old Toyota mindset. Leave it alone for a decade and then redesign maaaaybe. The last gen 4runner went forever it was so good.

[@marksullivan8200]

I imagine the peak torque is achieved earlier at lower rpm range it won't make sense otherwise peak torque vs torque curve can be dramatically different

[@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix]

Facts. The powerstroke is a perfect example. It has a narrow power and compared to the Ram and Duramax. That's why it doesn't outperform the duramax by as big of a margin as the numbers would suggest.

[@jimmyaber5920]

Glow plugs reduce raw fuel emissions on low temp starts. The 6.7 may have been at great risk of exceeding a standard. The testing is from start through.warm up and then a drive cycle plus a shutdown. If you have reduced in one area it allows you to be a wee bit dirtier in another area where torque or HP is boosted.

[@cynicaltruth7486]

I just bought a 2025 Rebel X. Received nearly $18k off sticker.

[@gnd111]

you aint in FL then....lol

[@cynicaltruth7486]

@ I’m not. Hope much is it in Florida

[@strykerentllc]

Congratulations on that I-6 basket case.

[@cynicaltruth7486]

@@strykerentllc yeah I’m enjoying it. Much smoother and nicer than the old hemi

[@strykerentllc]

@@cynicaltruth7486 Old as in what year?

[@JeffBreyer]

Doesnt need more power. Just keep it reliable.

[@lawdog516]

Nice job guys more Andre and Kase please !!

[@Woolsocks]

The first gen Cummins wasn’t famous how fast it was stock, it was famous for going a million miles.

[@Dankcatvacs]

it was quick for the time motorweek raved 0-60 in 7 seconds not bad.

[@samuelhatch8470]

Maybe you guys can check out unrivaled diesel. Or fire punk. Cummins are tops for making power.

[@amalfi460]

I don’t need enough power to tow an aircraft carrier, I want a reliable and AFFORDABLE truck

[@marksullivan8200]

Maybe improvements in the fuel filtering system which is key for diesel engines as well

[@sddyck]

I love these sit down visits

[@2ndAmendment-Jeffrey]

We will have to see what's going to happen. There is currently a leadership shake up. I'm hoping that they will make some smart course corrections with the Ram. The first thing they need to do is drop the pricing so some product can get moving. I'm excited about possible very positive changes coming.

[@Highaltitude45]

Start making trucks again that can be 100% worked on by guys that are mechanically inclined

[@wannabeangler]

Cummins that is compliant with an EPA BS rule? Get rid of the EPA and start making reliable trucks again!

[@cpdrumming]

This

[@fivestarexteriors]

My 24 Duramax has plenty of power. I’m not towing super heavy but moving from a 2011 6.7 ram that is mostly stock barely tuned up but breathes freely then jumping to my new truck I was blown away at the new trucks power. I can’t imagine that one of these trucks SO power numbers aren’t more than enough for 90% of us with diesels

[@DD-kx8ed]

Using hydraulic roller lifters and a CP4 high pressure pump already prone to failures is a hard NO for me. The Cummins has enough reliability problems due to the emission systems. They need to make every move towards increasing reliability. Sad.

[@SteveTerry-y2f]

Best analysis!!

[@ralfpassing]

The race in horse power and torq is senseless. Modern trucks have enough power - RAM needs to increase payload. That's it.

[@jeffclark4008]

Think about what you're saying. In order to have higher payload and towing figures, you have to have higher hp and torque ratings. The new towing standards require it. There is performance testing. If the truck can't do certain things with more weight in the bed, or on the trailer, it won't be certified to haul or tow those weights.

[@jayamoroso5870]

It comes down to suspension. The Ram 2500 coil spring system is terrible for more payload. Put leaf springs in without changing anything else and payload goes up. It's the reason I replaced my 2500 with a 3500 towing the same trailer.

[@jeffclark4008]

@jayamoroso5870 yeah, no, it comes down to the gvwr of the truck minus the weight of the truck minus the weight of a 150lb driver. Auto manufacturers can make those spring rates whatever they want.

[@jayamoroso5870]

@@jeffclark4008 no argument. You are 100 percent correct. Aside from registration and insurance penalties, if they put leafs in the rear, the payload goes up but sacrifices ride quality. They can most certainly put heavier coil spring rates to do it but it's also the lateral movement that's an issue. Especially when getting passed on the interstate pulling a 40 ft fifth wheel. Take a look at the 3500 with and without air bags. I might be wrong on this (I haven't looked since I got my 3500) but I think the air bag truck has a higher payload even though doesn't have a helper spring. I have a hard time believing the difference in capacity is the difference of the weight of the helper springs. I'd like to have a civil discussion and learn so let's keep everything cool.

[@jeffclark4008]

@jayamoroso5870 most 3/4 ton trucks will have a 10,000lb, or 10,800 lb GVWR, if the truck weighs 8,000 lbs with a 150lb driver in it, your payload is going to be 2000lbs on the 10k gvwr. Your springs aren't going to really matter there, they aren't the limiting factor and side to side shouldn't be an issue either as there should be a sway bar and/or a panhard bar to prevent side flex Now, 1 ton srw trucks can get towing packages and payload packages that bring the gvwr to almost 13k. In that case, the leaf spring rates are increased, the GAWR is increased and the tires are spec'd out to support that rating. So you get a higher payload, because the truck is maybe 200lbs heavier, but with the increased gvwr, you can get upwards of 4000lbs for payload capacity. In the dually market, this is where the 14,000lb government mandated max GVWR plays a role. An F350 dually has more payload than an F450, because they both have to abide by the 14k limit, but the F450 is much heavier, because the axles are bigger, the front frame section is beefier and the rims are much heavier. If gvwr wasn't the ceiling, the F450 would have a much higher payload.

[@woody4u247]

I predict a large demand for aftermarket grille replacements... that new grille is way too busy & just Fugly... I'd like to hear their plans for the HD trucks with Gas engines... there's a growing demand for the Heavier chassis using Gas engines... The prices of New diesels & the fact that they're so problematic because of the Emissions issues & Emission part failures.... Many companies are buying the Big Hemi & having great results... Even the 5500 with 6.4 Hemi has proven to be a capable driveline for most applications. High elevations or mountainous terrain still benefits from the turbo... but for most.. the Gas is cheaper, reliable & no Emissions issues to fight with. Maybe Ram should add a Turbo to their 6.4 Hemi?

[@robertaston7256]

I feel like, especially GM, used to talk about how the raw power/torque numbers of an engine are only part of a bigger picture. Think about all that exists between the output shaft on an engine and the rubber that hits the road. Depending on what gear you are in, your axle ratio, tire size, powertrain losses you could have one truck putting more torque to the ground than another with 100 more ft-lbs of it at the engine. Just adding a few extra gears without really uping the numbers in the engine may actually dramatically change the way these things pull trailers. An electrically heated DPF would be awesome.

[@goriaxe9177]

Not a word about the hydraulic lifters.....seems like that needs to be addressed.....gotta fix it all....

[@kevinpaulson2659]

That was an interesting update. Thanks.

[@Cloud30000]

If this is the “multi-fuel” design that they teased a while back, then the change to glow plugs could be to support being able to use the head for all diesel components and making the block very basic to support any fuel type.

[@plutonium9]

What a wired timeline when 850 lb-ft is considered low on output.

[@christopherwoodyatt38]

Ram is still going to make trucks? I thought they were going out of business for sure

[@inchaoswearereborn9586]

Maybe they can incorporate dual rate springs in the rear to accommodate for increased payload while still retaining the coil springs

[@charliehayes6667]

Can you find out if RAM is finally going to upgrade the 6.4 HEMI from the current 410 hp to a respectable 470 hp like the 6.4 installed in jeep wranglers, grand wagoneers etc.? I have a 2014 with the 6.4 and it's been the same for 10 years!

[@Ratkill9000]

Hemi is gone for good. We won't know what gas engine is replacing it until January 25th 2025, that's when the embargo is lifted.

[@Ram-re5em]

Getting rid of grid heater would make me want the new 2025 Ram

[@crazyhass84]

It's a cp8 pump. Don't ask me how I know.

[@Ratkill9000]

Probably the same way I know and it's kind of nice knowing more than the general public at times.

[@spetsru2906]

Been through all makes, Ram and Cummins wins everytime.. It may not be as spacious in the cabin as others, or as soft of seats. But they are leagues more beautiful to sit in and enjoy and at the end of the day, still tow exactly the same with more reliability.

[@tammyspencer9786]

we want RELIABILTY!

[@darrenwilkins8702]

I am a fan of more gears, however I have a 23 Ram 2500 Mega Cab 6 speed. I put it up against my Father-in-law 24 Ford 3500 Tremor high output and my Daughters 23 Chev 3500 Duramax. Point being even though they have 10 speed trans they do not get better mileage, they are not more efficient. So the argument that they will be more efficient with more gears is not true.

[@ALMX5DP]

I'd think there are too many variables to say that for certain, but on top of efficiency is also other considerations like drive ability, shift logic/performance etc which can be differentiators.

[@jeffclark4008]

Yeah, that's a lie. Every legit road test proves otherwise Cocheese. But nice try. Just take your exhaust brake trophy and be happy, because that's the only thing the cummins has over the others right now.

[@darrenwilkins8702]

Every family trip we go on pulling similar weight my Ram gets better mileage every time that’s my personal experience. HP wars only increase prices not reliability or efficiency, if Ram kept their current truck and dropped the price 20 K they would probably sell like hot cakes.

[@jeffclark4008]

@@darrenwilkins8702 LOL, so you want Ram to just drop their prices $20K and lose money? Yeah, hold your breath for that. Hilarious. Almost as hilarious as you telling everyone you're personal record keeping is more accurate than what everyone else is doing. But hey, if you're mind tells you the Ram is getting better fuel mileage, that's all that matters aye?

[@mcwilliamsda]

are we comparing diesel to diesel or gas to gas?

[@aidenhardcore1]

Everything nowadays is about more horsepower more torque more miles per gallon. And if you’re building a new truck, but you’re not on the top of horsepower and torque, people don’t want it. People want the best of the best numbers and if you’re lacking in the information on Numbers, people are not gonna want it.Does having a heavy duty truck with 500 hp and 1400 pounds of torque really needed, probably not. But in today’s culture, people want more and more and more and when you’re not delivering that, people won’t buy it sadly.

[@ronwinn879]

Glad on the mechanical updates. Disappointed if the cab isn’t updated on this generation.

[@jean-francoispiche2395]

Yesss !!!! Please buy one!!!

[@BigBadJohnDiesel]

Remember guy's, this "new" truck, as it were, is using a cab that came out in 2010! Rediculous! Additionally, how much power, does an average consumer need? You will get more for your money, with a Ford and GM product.

[@Redmonsterracing]

They are always talking about “the cab”. What has really changed in truck cabs since the Crew Cab took over the market. Ram has the MegaCab, that is truly a useful upgrade. Otherwise, Ive had multiple Rams, Titans, and Fords and there has not been anything significant changed in the cabs in decades. Slight changes in tech and trim, but nothing earth shattering. For me the biggest change moving from a 20 Ram to a 24 F250 is the horizontal vs vertical touchscreen, but that is a personal preference. The vertical tends to just be two stacked apps. The Ford is more useful. Ram blew it with the 14 because it eliminates a lot of buttons. The Ford is not as pretty but has better ergonomics.

[@JacobMoy-ij5om]

As a Ram diesel guy I'm totally disappointed at that is the numbers but that 8-speed better be something special if they're not going to boost the power up

[@rjterry21]

Externally, the HPFP looks like a CP4. I've been told CP8 (which looks different) and also redesigned CP4x.

[@calypojr]

Bring me a reliable truck... please... under 50k... that's all we are asking for

[@Stuka87]

Anytime an updated engine comes out, its initial output is way lower than what it will be years down the road. They want to give reasons for people to get an new truck down the road, and to match the competition.

[@chuckasarus]

The grill looks like someone could not make their mind up.

[@jonathanteeter9572]

Is that a CIA coin at the base of the monitor? Sounds like a story...

[@libertystuffnthingsreviews829]

Less Case, more Nathan. Also, is there not a specific RPM and transmission gear for these high output diesels? I know the EcoDiesel only put out max horsepower at a specific RPM and in a specific gear.

[@Ogdin3]

Well I guess you don't have to worry about the grid heater bolt dropping if it's gone.

[@Cloud30000]

It still baffles me to see that RAM haven’t put the much improved 2018 1500 cab in the 2025 HD trucks.

[@strictlyoutdoorschannel8716]

When Cummins/ram partners with banks , I’ll buy one

[@Jetboat2000]

Well, they're already partnered with banks....

[@phillipbartowsky2979]

My 25 F350 dually is being built next week. Ram is behind in every category.

[@ml9867]

Mmmmm juicy Cummins news. GIGGITY

[@redman2805]

It would be with having the 8spd opposed to the 6spd it is more of being able to lay down the torque and power and be more consistent thru power band

[@greggc8088]

That 8 speed ZF and Chrysler's copy is a rock solid and decent shifting one. Only 8 speed plus I've driven that doesn't hunt gears like a crack addict in my neighbor's medicine chest. For that reason, the demand is so low, they are super cheap in the salvage yards.

[@Justthemow]

2:59 the problem wasn’t with the pump it was cavitation as the pump returns fuel to the fuel tank it caused micro bubbles toget returned to the pump and it caused failure due to lack of lubricity

[@qdog494]

I’d love to see how many CP4 failures are user error (def in the tank, gas in the tank etc.)

[@stgraves260]

The Cummings engine was never the issue. The 5.9 had plenty of power. Then the 6.7 Cummings came out. It was great as well. The issues are the DEF/DPF exhaust system along with the transmission. The 8spd is long overdue in the Cummings. The transmission alone would increase the towing capacity. Stiffer spring would increase payload. Easy fixes, Just do it all ready.

[@Kingcold2002]

My theory on the 25 model for the 6.7 Cummins 3500 max towing will be 39,500 with a 9 speed and with a max payload of 8,900 pounds. I hope the 5500 have a way better gcwr and the 9 speed with the HO Cummins

[@Mopartizan4774]

We will be lucky if they haven’t gone outta business by 2026. When they loose all the “hemi” sales there gonna take a large hit. Unfortunately hemi jeep and Cummins are barely keeping them afloat now. I’ve been a dodge man all my life and drive a Cummins but I’m concerned.

[@Dazza-u4c]

So in the last 15 year you’re been a RAM man all your life then. Oh and it is lose, not loose.

[@Ratkill9000]

Sales are down for everyone.

[@Mopartizan4774]

@@Dazza-u4c Holy shit you aren't in any position to correct grammar. It's years not year, you've and not you're. Also, I'm a grown man not a 15yr old. I think that's what you were implying. Not sure why you even decided to. Also, I refuse to even acknowledge the RAM rebranding ha, it will always be Dodge, even if mine said RAM it would be a Dodge Ram.

[@letsrock9209]

Not the smartest guys @ 8:03 " the transmission is physically bigger than any other 8 speed like the Ram1500 for example". Hope so, it's going into HD trucks!

[@Ratkill9000]

It is. Already confirmed.

[@josiahburdick4893]

All ram had to do was standardize power, get the 8 speed, and give it the Gen 5 cab and bed. But no, we get glow plugs, arguably worse engine block, total redesign of the head, and an absolute god awful grill/headlights, and astronomical pricing for what’s essentially a 16 year old body design. Thank you Stellantis for killing off every MOPAR brand.

[@TAGDIESEL]

Instead of these big 3 always posting the highest peak hp number. How about they just post a dyno sheet so we can see the engine under load and what it does when it backshifts

[@Ratkill9000]

Dynos are unreliable and can greatly inflate the numbers.

[@TAGDIESEL]

@Ratkill9000 it's more about the curve and not so much the individual number

[@jdfleetguy28]

I have a 2023 RAM 2500 and 2023 GMC HD 2500, and the tall hood on the GMC is one of my least favorite features, and really concerned about RAM going down that same path. I purposely went with a 2023 RAM 2500 without that new hood scoop, to try and keep that sight line over the hood as good as I could get it. Looks like RAM might be increasing the hood line on these new 2025 HD similar to how GM and Ford have done.

[@sethniebaum7477]

I need someone to give an engineering explanation for 'switching to glow plugs'. No previous Cummins equipped Dodge or Ram has come with glow plugs.

[@slmjake]

I want a truck that gets 30 mpgs and hauls 2500 pounds and fuel tank of min 36 gallons I bet the chevy 3.0 would be a good start. Wish we had light duty 3/4 tons.

[@Troy-y5g]

Nice to see all the Prius drivers say how good or bad something is before it’s even out

[@shuttlepilot_]

The only thing any Cummins owner fears is downshifting. As long as it will pull 20k to the Eisenhower Tunnels and never need to downshift they will sell.

[@Ratkill9000]

This information is still under embargo, at least for the gas engine. We won't know anything until January 25, 2025 about the official gas engine for the Ram heavy duty. The Cummins is being updated and a bit derated potentially. It's getting an unknown CP8 pump (only a Chinese brand pump comes up, nothing from Bosch).

[@gorillaplays8926]

SO THEY INSTALLING SPLIT HEAD LIGHTS LIKE GM??

[@prw479]

Need lots of power to haul around that debt load and ego.

[@lucaszak3597]

Do you happen to know if the DEF consumption for 2025,on the light duty diesel trucks, is expected to be significantly increased for emissions purposes?

[@Tedkelvin]

Thought it would grow to 7.2L amd 530hp

[@Dazza-u4c]

The rumour is 2027 for the 7.2 with Gen 5 Cab. We can only hope.

[@dillonh321]

Cummins is developing a 7.2l engine but that doesn’t necessarily mean it will end up in a Ram.

[@adamharriger5193]

If the cab is really unchanged it makes this a non-starter truck for me. Carrying a family of 5 (plus a dog at times) pretty much requires a Ford or Chevy cab. Was always a Ram truck guy, but switched to Ford for the cab. Ram is starting to feel a bit like Nissan, barely trying to keep up but not quite actually doing it… we know how that strategy worked out.

[@Jetboat2000]

It'll either skip ratios or it'll spend a lot of time shifting into high gear in 10 seconds. The only benefit will be when the old truck is heavily loaded.

[@BradfordSparks]

Just another truck that no one can afford to buy.

[@markpontes4457]

Just as Long as it's dependable with a good transmission that's plenty of power when the other 2 brand's are broken on the side of the road, and not being fixed for months a little extra power won't help!

[@cordellroberson532]

HP is torque at an rpm. so high HP advertised means strong torque at the shift point, so pulls hard to shift. 430 REALLY needed to be 530. and 1075 needed to be 1450. i know its crazy, but if no new cab (STILLLL) idk how this can be considered if it costs teh same as teh compentention who has the bigger cabs and more tech at a price.

[@Bigtuna-jh9uq]

RIP Ram. They are so far behind the competition it’s too late for them.

[@leavingarizona3345]

Andre, I think all the reporting is making you a bit jaded for HP and TRQ numbers. 1075 ft lbs and 430 hp is extremely impressive my friend! 😂

[@TFLtruck]

You may be right. I cannot wait to drive this new one.

[@leavingarizona3345]

@@TFLtruck awesome, can’t wait to watch you guys toast it and Ike it

[@jeffclark4008]

Good numbers, but still not close to the other 2 brands and like it or not, it does matter. If you want to increase sales, you better bring better numbers than that. When did we turn into a bunch of girls anyway? You Ram guys keep talking about how hp and tq doesn't matter, which is a losers mentality, but it does matter to anyone that is the least bit competitive. The other 2 brands are more powerful, they tow more, they haul more, they whip Ram's ass in every performance category, they get better fuel mileage and now, they are more reliable. Ram needed to bring a competetive motor to the table this time. They didn't.

[@burkspat3009]

Could we get a new cab?

[@karlw426]

Thankyou for the video guys. I am a truck driver both semi and long distance pickup truck delivering Campers. Is it just me or is there a secret agenda as to why a 2500-3500 pickups need to have more power then semi trucks had in the 1950's that hauled bigger loads then what any pickup will ever haul or pull i might add ?? Here is a secret revealed: more power = fuel wasted and wear/tare for the truck owner but more more money for fuel companies, tow truck drivers, garages, etc. Now what would you rather have? All a pickup needs is 250 hp Cummins with about 600 ft lbs torque. Remember the 1st Legend in the pickup industry that rocked the world: the 1989 Ram 250 5.9 Cummins with 160 hp and 400 ft lbs torque and that was a great puller already pleanty capable. If someone wants crazy pickup power then build a race truck with the executioner race engine with 3200 hp on a single turbo based on a 6 cylinder Ram Cummins engine and go have fun on the weekends!! My 2007.5 Ram 3500 has 976,000 miles on original injectors and cp fuel pump and engine never opened up... Can somebody please tell me why they are fussing about changing to a different cp fuel pump? Like whats the problem? To reliable and not selling enough replacement pumps or what? VEHICLES ARE TO BE BUILT TO LAST THE LONGEST POSSIBLE FOR THE CONSUMER AND TO NEED AS FEW REPAIRS AS POSSIBLE DURING ITS LIFE OR THE OWNERS LIFETIME AND TO CONSTANTLY GET BETTER ON FUEL YEAR BY YEAR... IF MANUFACTURERS FAIL TO OPERATE BY THAT STANDARD THEN THEY ARE HEADED FOR A COLLAPSE IN THE LONG RUN. have a great day everyone 🙏

[@jdfleetguy28]

Great video guys, I 100% agree with you Kase, they need to call it anything but Cp4 ---- does not matter, people in the know won't like that name Cp4 it seems to be dirty word at this point in the diesel truck community. What is wrong with calling it a Cp5 or something else assuming it is really something else. I don't know what was wrong with continuing on with the Cp3 it is proven. Glow plugs seem like a step backwards IMO. Would love to know more about why go back to glow plugs. Hopefully RAM explains that move. The ZF8 seems like a good thing, looking forward to seeing how that new ZF8 performs. I have a 2023 LTD 2500 Cummins as well as I joined Kase's 2nd Gen owners club recently with a very clean low mileage 2001 24 valve Cummins 2500.

[@bradenwuesthoff5639]

glow plugs reduce cold start emissions

[@markpontes4457]

Probable for emissions and there is nothing restricting the air flow, that's probable what gave it 10 more hp! I prefer the glow plugs as long as good quality!

[@nicholassmith7048]

8:12 ZED FTW