New Ram 1500 Hurricane vs. Ford F-150 EcoBoost: The Results Are WAY Closer Than You Might Think!

( www.allTFL.com ) Check out our new spot to find ALL our TFLstudios content, from news to videos and our podcasts! In this Denver 100 fuel economy test, Andre and Kase pitch the new 2025 Ram 1500's 3.0-liter 'Hurricane' twin-turbocharged inline-six against Ford's long-running and explosively popular 3.5-liter twin-turbo EcoBoost V6. Here's which truck is most efficient on this 100-mile loop!
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0:00 Hurricane vs Ecoboost Intro
1:46 Start the Denver 100
4:17 Highway Driving
8:10 0-60 MPH Comparison
10:54 Finish the Denver 100
13:45 The Verdict
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[@user-fq3uh7bt1t]

The real test here is which one goes 0-60 recalls first

[@Steve-yr5vi]

recalls are part of the government corruption system, nothing more.

[@ubeuonly]

FORD WINS EVERY TIME. TWICE AS MANY IN2023

[@fireant1272]

We all know ford will have the most recalls 😂

[@lordcommander3224]

Stellantis simply will refuse to announce any recalls. ;-)

[@sgillen12]

@@lordcommander3224this is what people don’t wanna say out loud

[@VortexArcade]

I think the Hurricane is going to be a great engine, but I wouldn't touch it for 3 years!

[@benwea76]

Lucky for you, it's already been out for 3 years in the wagoneer.

[@843MudMafia.]

That true​@@benwea76

[@shettlock]

If Toyota needs 4 years to get turbo shit right, how long do you think Stellantis needs? 😂😂

[@Bryce7O3]

@@benwea76is it similar tho cause the rams are supposed to have higher output versions?

[@VortexArcade]

@@benwea76 Didn't they sell like 40 of those? 🥴 There was a similar issue with the Pentastar in the Wrangler. The 2012 and early 2013 Wranglers had bad cylinder heads despite the engine being in Grand Cherokee for a couple years.

[@DanielJaegerFilms]

420 / 469 🤔 tell me that wasn’t intentional 🤣

[@Cloud30000]

RAM knows their customers, at least the ones that are alright dropping the V8

[@brentmacklem1872]

Good catch. 😂

[@ianberry5562]

Those are God’s power numbers right there

[@BloodAlwaysFindsItsLevel]

Give the ford tears something to cope with😹

[@Captain-Awesome]

@@ianberry5562God has no power numbers, that would imply a limit to God’s powers.

[@shockracer]

No oil dipstick on an engine is bothersome. We'll see how it holds up over the next couple of years.

[@darkdodger137]

How often is the average driver lifting their hood and reaching for a dipstick? Yes there are a few people that would do it, but those few are the exception.

[@shay1116]

@@darkdodger137 I'd venture to guess truck owners are much more likely than the average driver.

[@0HOON0]

Dipsticks are outdated but they should always be present as a backup.

[@Javelinjoe73]

Yeah, just wait till the oil level sensors go bad. $$

[@PantyDropper69]

​@0HOON0 that's an absolutely insane take.

[@johnhufnagel]

As you noted, the Ford had an extremely short top off (0.057gal based on the video), whereas the Ram had a 0.369gal (based on the visible data.) If you take the pre-top off values, the Ford comes in at 24.04 vs the Ram at 24.89, so the deviation is 1.89mpg between the extremes. I think given the inherent inaccuracies involved both trucks are nearly identical, within measurement tolerances.

[@adaycj]

I agree. TFL could do 1000 hours of MPG testing on each truck with 3 million in equipment and someone would still cry foul. It's close enough, and in this case it's a wash.

[@cheftomsd]

I love the smoothness of an inline 6. Last one I had was in the 80's with the Ford 300.

[@joshuaenyart5570]

Andre's foot brake skills were not as beneficial to giving the engine enough time to build boost

[@someguywithaford]

It doesn’t matter. I have a 3.5, and the 2017+ EcoBoost actually has electronic wastegates. So it will not build boost when stopped. I’ve tried, and I noticed the boost gauge just stays at 0. It seems to me like a nice controlled launch in RWD with a little weight in the bed would be the best way to get a 0-60 from the EcoBoost, it feels a little sluggish after 3rd in 4wd

[@ecu4awhile]

with a Tune on these 150s, with brake boost i am pretty sure you were spinning the earth as opposed to moving forward. you absolutely benefit from brake boosting these trucks.

[@enigma9789]

@@someguywithaford Fords dont like brake torquing. Mine always runs faster if i just mash the gas.

[@HAPPYFUNTIMEx2]

The Raptors fastest 0-60 is with a pedal mash. I dont see why the regular 3.5 would be different. He should have just mashed the pedal.

[@someguywithaford]

@@HAPPYFUNTIMEx2 that’s interesting. I wonder if the ECU is programmed not to let the engine do much work when brake torque to protect the drive components. This would make sense to me because my truck is less likely to spin the wheels if I just floor it instead of going about 3/4 throttle. I think Ford programmed stuff into these EcoBoosts to try to prevent excessive wheel spin or to prevent damage

[@brucegeib263]

Awesome comparison. Please do the same trucks towing 5,000 lbs ish. Thank you so much TFL

[@fscottgray9784]

Beware of the 30 second top off procedure. After a few thousand miles of doing this on both my Ram and GM pickups the carbon canister becomes contaminated and triggers a check engine light. You will end up needing to replace it so the light does not come on. Owners manual says not to top off your fuel tank. TFL won't see the consequence because they never keep their trucks long enough to trigger this.

[@danmurray07]

I've been told that as well. Surprised they do it.

[@skipgumphrey9579]

I do it in my Toyota truck. I’ve always done it. It’s got just under 300,000 miles on it and I’ve NEVER had a CEL for anything, let alone an evap/canister issue. Just saying…

[@thatfordguy2268]

100% correct, over filling or " topping off" is not recomended. This is the main culprit of the majority of "check engine" lights we see at my shop. The vent canister and purge valve are not able to function properly also😎👍

[@melvinhunt6976]

The canister only has a problem when you overfill and it overflows! MAN!’

[@fscottgray9784]

@@skipgumphrey9579 older vehicles are not as sensitive to this, less monitoring systems.

[@dearbulls]

Cannot wait for the Ramcharger vs. Hybrid F150.

[@tomahawk7259]

If they get the ramcharger right I think it will blow the F150 Hybrid out of the water.

[@dearbulls]

yea, but it's a huge IF. Both Stelantis and Leap Motors (the Chinese manufacturer who provided them the range extending technology) are famous for cheap price not high quality. So I'll take that hope with a grain of salt. I do have a preorder on it BTW

[@ebenezerwheezer2957]

Plug in Ramcharger for the win Stellantis I hope. 🙏 2025 RamCharger 1500 Plug-in hybrid maybe a game changer. 141 mi on pure electric power. 690 miles combined Gas & Elec. impressive combined output of 663 horsepower and 615 pound-feet of torque 14,500 towing Target price $60,000. Best of all you NEVER HAVE TO PLUG IT IN IF YOU DON'T WANT TO.

[@dearbulls]

@@ebenezerwheezer2957 it can be plugged in but it's not a PHEV

[@ebenezerwheezer2957]

​@@dearbulls Please explain why Stellantis 2025 RamCharger 1500 Plug-in hybrid maybe a game changer. 141 mi on pure electric power. 690 miles combined Gas & Elec. impressive combined output of 663 horsepower and 615 pound-feet of torque 14,500 towing Target price $60,000. Best of all you NEVER HAVE TO PLUG IT IN IF YOU DON'T WANT TO. This isn't a phev?

[@lesgoff]

Great trucks... I would buy either one.... Some good news pertaining to my 2022 RAM 5.7 with 3.92 tow gears (2wd). I drove 2,472.6 miles from Charlotte, NC to Tulsa OK (I-40 mostly) and returned through upper Arkansas mountains back to Nashville before returning to Charlotte and averaged 23.7 mpg (gas pump receipts returned 23.1 mpg). Still in shock the truck did that well.

[@DUDEWithDODGES]

I think Ram shoulda kept the 5.7 as an option.

[@r.holdaway5839]

I have some friends deep in the auto industry who believe that Ram “shelved” the 5.7, but didn’t erase it. I hope they bring it back. We have some 5.7 trucks in the fleet and they are well over 350,000 with no issues.

[@brentmacklem1872]

@@r.holdaway5839that ain’t a bad thing. Friends say this as well. Maintain them people.

[@pbaker7160]

EPA wouldn't allow it. Blame our idiot government.

[@Psuhockey-cr9if]

@@pbaker7160then why is ford able to keep the coyote?

[@ZayneMcDonald]

@@Psuhockey-cr9ifdisplacement

[@mrshopjulius5840]

That is the race everyone wanted to see. Good job explaining this to me.

[@randyphillips559]

Andre really screwed up the launch on the Ford, I think they would be virtually identical accelerating trucks.

[@grizz474]

I have a 2019 3.5 ecoboost max tow. I get 19 around town and 21/22ish driving from Mn to Florida every year. I'm pretty happy with those numbers. It has the 36 gallon tank and the truck says I have 700 mile range on a fill up when road tripping, that's what what the truck says anyway. 😎

[@Steve-yr5vi]

I have an F150 with the same setup, even a 209, I've got to say while I love a lot about that truck, what I find I love most is the 700+ miles range. I plan on keeping this a a long time, however if I get anything else it's gonna be able to better 600 miles on a tank or it's a non-starter.

[@ycleveland7084]

I too have 2019 3.5 ecoboost, but no max tow. Regularly get 22mpg hwy w/o using eco mode. Drive Cle. OH to Augusta GA every year.

[@KIDRR]

The truck calculates it on 32 gallons so you actually have another 4 gallons after it shows zero mile range

[@josephina24]

'21 5.0 V8 in my F150, 36 gal tank get 650-700 miles on a full tank depending on the season lol

[@xr7coug]

Same here but a 22. I know my tow mirrors reduce MPG because I've tested with them folded. Happy with the mileage and the power is awesome.

[@bradleyscarreviews]

5.6 0-60 1mile above sea level for just the SO output is impressive

[@27Zangle]

Very! I would still wait another year or two before getting one those engines. I have a feeling it is going to be very reliable though.

[@ryanb8736]

Straight 6 turbo is the best design. I’ve said it for 3 decades. About time a company does it.

[@butchphillips873]

@@ryanb8736 In Australia we had inline 6 turbo in Falcon utes. Very good power and reliability.

[@ecu4awhile]

If Andre knew how to drive, you can hit 5.4-5.5 in the F150. Both trucks are impressive

[@bradleyscarreviews]

@@ecu4awhile I was wondering also.

[@rsdaarud]

That 23+ is pretty impressive for those half ton pickups!

[@Steve-yr5vi]

yep, my last V8 F150 was lucky to better 15, and you know that was actually good for the era, years ago 4x4 trucks were lucky to top 10.

[@pbaker7160]

I have a 2016 F150 with the 2.7 Ecoboost. I get 24 on the highway as long as I keep it under 70. Combined is 19. With a 36 gallon tank, I only fill up about one per month.

[@waterloo123100]

Not really I had a Silverado that got 23 in the city and 26 on the highway. It was 2004 with the 5.3

[@rsdaarud]

Prime Chevy years for sure!

[@danger7dan]

I agree. My 2008 Dodge Ram SLT 2WD single cab with the 4.7 liter V8 had an EPA rating of 18 mpg on the highway.

[@jbdoublewide8757]

i work for ford. running 87 is a 11 percent reduction in power at peak, its even more at low rpm and high boost situations. its a drastic difference from 93

[@terb5804]

At sea level?

[@woodrmp1]

Huh. I’ve run premium a few times in my gen 2 3.5 eco and didn’t notice any difference. What do you do at Ford?

[@trackpackgt877]

yes i knew they really needed 93 because there turbo charged! cant run as much boost or timing with lower octane. Appreciate that info

[@anthonys7534]

@@woodrmp1judging by his user name, he must be pretty high up the ladder at Ford😂

[@givnofuchs5742]

Good luck finding 93 in the southwest

[@Spoolingturbski]

Ram wasn’t just going to throw anything under the hood after dropping the legendary hemi. These over built straight 6 turbos are the real deal and make tons of power and have already proven more reliable then the Toyota offering. Before you come to a conclusion go drive one first. Yes it doesn’t rumble, but the power is insane.

[@engineer_alv]

I've seen a couple videos from aftermarket exhausts and it can get quite a nice rumble. It will never sound like a V8 but unlike most V6s it will at least sound tastefully.

[@waterloo123100]

I would have no problems with this engine if CAFE standards would allow a v8 still. Something needs to change

[@ryanb8736]

They took the best design and remade it.

[@AntilleanConfederation]

Over built? Lol not even a dipstick but okay buddy.

[@marcharris4176]

It's a Dodge. It will have many issues

[@Franz-vg6hy]

Wrong Gas Station-there is no Dinosaur, I want my Dinocare 😂

[@AlicesWondereland]

Andre. You've been one of my favorite hosts, not only on TFL, but of almost any channel. But, you sir have hurt my heart. Calling a Ram, inferior to anything was not a nice thing to say. lol

[@user-ts8ss9cj1p]

From a guy who used to watch Donut (not anymore much lol) TFL has quickly become my favorite collection of channels. Keep up the great work

[@Hybris51129]

But TFL has been where Dount is now for years only with less yelling and over the top antics.

[@mediocreman2]

Donut blows.

[@user-ts8ss9cj1p]

@@mediocreman2 they do now for the most part I agree

[@canamxmr4760]

For those wondering, the sport mode on the ram also defaults to 4 auto. it adjust the steering feel as well as the transmission shift points.

[@carholic-sz3qv]

its basically apples to orange. they have totally different gearing and many other different setups.

[@canamxmr4760]

@@carholic-sz3qv my comment is for information of the ram sport mode. No comparison made in the comment.

[@lp6wo]

Nice to see analog gauges in the Ram. I might be the minority but I’m sick of everything being a screen.

[@stgibson2810]

I’m with you 100%. I just bought a new motorcycle with a digital tach. I love the bike but man do I miss my old bike’s analog tach. Nothing like watching it bang the rev limiter then seeing the shift light.

[@evictioncarpentry2628]

You're not alone. Can't stand screens and buttons on screens. I want real buttons to push.

[@hynsum]

110 % agreed 👍👍

[@M4sterT3ch]

Yup, one of the many reasons I'll keep on driving my GMT800 Silverado and Suburban.

[@ottovonbismarck7094]

They’re really not analogue, its all electronic with a little stepper motor. I do think the stepper motor is better than a full screen tho

[@DH-mf2lv]

Great job guys!

[@marksullivan8200]

Topping off blocks the vent in the gas tank its not recommended by factory over time it may affect fuel pump

[@truckguy6.7]

Add in the cost of replacing the charcoal canister and it doesn't make much sense to force a few extra ounces into the tank. People should know, it's not a smart thing to do.

[@stevemueller3705]

Andre is awesome!

[@snoopyfix2]

Awesome test guys! Im sure in speak for everyone when I say we appreciate the real-world teats you guys do!

love these mpg test videos!!

[@dochollywood1921]

FINALLY someone brought up the dog water capless systems not venting properly. What the hell was wrong with a capped system that just worked?

[@mitchstein288]

My guess? Too many check engine lights (which have a significant impact on costumer satisfaction) for such a silly thing as leaving the gas cap off. It's a trip to the dealer that hurts the overall customer satisfaction.

[@robertoestebandiaz3610]

Hola muy buen comparativo la RAM parece la mejor opción saludos desde Córdoba Argentina

[@salchristiano6606]

One of the better mpg vids you’ve made.

[@baltazarkosa29]

Guys, you are the best! good job!

[@darrendaine4914]

You should test the loop in the economy mode and then test it normal and see if the economy mode actually does anything

[@xr7coug]

Doesnt affect HWY mileage on my 22 F150

[@darrendaine4914]

@@xr7coug My 23 Bronco is off and I'm not talking about a Broncos sport and I have 35s. I guess doing something or not doing something doesn't say much for the economy mode

[@AntilleanConfederation]

I found out that on most cars with normal, sport and eco. Sport mode actually saves the most. Lmaoooo

[@michaelcurren1821]

More Case, no Roman, great video.

[@ottovonbismarck7094]

As a general rule for all makes, never buy the first year of a refresh, redesign, or new engine option

[@joeparker7508]

Great test

[@itgoesfast2722]

So with almost identical engines the truck with the taller rear end has a longer 0-60 but better fuel economy…. Who would have ever thought that would be the case. LOL.

[@51AB]

10 speed transmission vs. 8

[@ryanb8736]

Not identical engines at all. One is a V6 and other is an inline 6. Massive difference. Inline will always last longer. Reason why the straight 6 were always legendary engines.

[@itgoesfast2722]

@@ryanb8736 I was talking horse power 400 F150 and 420 Ram. In my book that is almost identical….I know one is a v6 and the other a straight 6. Wow both are six cylinders with twin turbos making almost the same horse power. So glad you felt you had to call me out..

[@joshgts9675]

"Nearly identical engine" is the same thing as identical horsepower to you? English is your second language I'm assuming? You need to be specific if you don't want people calling you out.

[@itgoesfast2722]

@@joshgts9675 get a life

[@user-tl2gx5wk3j]

Everyone should base their truck purchase on 0-60 times!

[@ryanb8736]

Dodge will win.

[@rrnonya5472]

That is TFL, good for clicks and views, but I was wondering the same thing, WTF does 0-60 have to do with anything in a truck unless you are dropping 100k for something you will never, ever, ever do "truck things" with it ... then yes, to some, it does matter...

[@HowManyLegsItHas]

Good review, thank you.

[@h2o100c]

This was a good review. 👍

[@Julian-do7bv]

Ram was quick and got basically the same mpg thats awesome

[@MalphMaisy]

Andre needed to brake torque like his kid, and bring up the RPM before launching

[@Julian-do7bv]

@@MalphMaisy he said he did to like 2500rpm

[@ryanb8736]

@@MalphMaisythat’s how you do it properly. Wait till the HO. Will be in 4’s.

[@Mike-Capz83]

you guys should also include the 2.7 ecoboost!

[@ryanb8736]

It’s slower.

[@trackpackgt877]

​​@@ryanb8736surprisingly the 2.7 is not much slower than the 3.5 it spoils the turbos faster and will actually walk away from a 3.5 in the first few hundred feet than the 3.5 will reel in the 2.7 and slowly pass it but it's not as big of Gap as you would think

[@Bobbybobby1]

Always be listening to Pretty Lights while driving through Morrison.

[@Kias1dad]

The mileage test is too short. A few ounces of gas one way or the other during top off can have a big impact.

[@jarrodwidiger5472]

Yes, what is the consistency error on a fuel pump shutoff? They really need to do at least 300+ miles in my opinion.

[@enigma9789]

@@jarrodwidiger5472 You guys can team up and go drive hundreds of vehicles 300 miles each, we will wait for the videos.

[@PeterDoesFarming]

Have the Hurricane in a wagoner L for the past two years. No issues. Plenty of power and unique sound.

[@hellkitty1014]

Insurance agent has a GW w/ H.O. and he loves it.

[@PeterDoesFarming]

@@kiplambel4052 we may be talking about two different things. The 2023 Waggoner L has the straight 6 twin turbo hurricane. I believe the 4 cyclinder you are talking about is in the grand Cherokee, Cherokee, and possibly the wrangler?

[@kiplambel4052]

Yep. ​@PeterDoesFarming somehow I read "wrangler"

[@johnwiegers3502]

​@@kiplambel4052wagoneer L is basically a Chevy Suburban! You are thinking of the small Wagoneer S that they are coming out with!

[@KIDRR]

I always wondered who bought those

[@danieldornes8416]

Great video, as usual! It was good info that the Ford had an "efficiency minded" rear end, while the Ram had one meant more for towing, I wish they would have actually said what the rear end ratios were on these tested trucks.

[@mikehaugen4177]

Im a dodge/ram guy but i don't think you can go wrong with either one of these trucks, my buddy has that 3.5 ecoboost and it seems to do real well. I think the biggest thing here is the 3.5 ecoboost has been out for a while and its pretty much good to go, where as the hurricane is brand new and who knows what kinda weird problems it may or may not have. Cool video either way

[@27dmarshall]

GM 3.0L Duramax: 305 hp / 495 lb-ft. I get 32-36 mpg on my 33 mile commute. Would buy anything else. Absolutely love the smooooth Inline-6 diesel.

[@mitchstein288]

That's a great engine too. The only downside is the serviceable belt on the back of the engine. My gosh what a bad place to put that.

[@carltongray3302]

@@mitchstein288has a 200k mile service interval

[@dansherwood9851]

Why folks keep bring it up as if most folks will never even see that service.

[@carltongray3302]

@@dansherwood9851 idk lol. They won’t even keep that truck to that amount of mileage unless they’re like a rancher

[@glaffoon1]

I do like the idea of a straight 6 engine. However, for a Truck , I would have preferred something in the order of 3.6 to 4.2 Liters. And a little less boost. And I would like it if the trucks were more aerodynamic than a Garage Door. And 1,000 lbs lighter.

[@travishill7873]

Where would the 1000lbs come from?

[@ocln2481]

Also make it 10000 dollars, have a drink dispenser and do my accounting while driving

[@marksullivan8200]

The hurricane engine surprised me, I'd like to see it tested in the h.o. variant as well

[@timgurr1876]

Thanks for the comparison test. One time check on MPG is not enough to verify “exact” mileage comparsion. Both are so close to one another that MPG would not be a major tie breaker. I agree with another comment: with a new engine one should wait a few years to understand quality of the Hurricane engine.

[@daniel0atk]

I would rather the 5.0 Coyote over the EcoBoost or Hurricane.

[@paullane7489]

Me too!!!👍🇺🇸👍🇺🇸👍🇺🇸

[@Johnlu464]

That’s what I got, went from a 2020 2.7. 22-23mpg highway with 5.0. Got 13 pulling a rzr turbo and a grizzly with gear to SD.

[@warlockgonzalez9050]

Cool story!

[@dennisrutherford6973]

I got rid of mine drank oil and very noisy

[@daniel0atk]

@@dennisrutherford6973 I mean that's fair, I just love the sound of V8s and the feel of them, I've always been a 5.7 Hemi guy though.

[@lawnpro44]

The Ford also has a 6.5 foot bed, the Ram seems to have a 5.5. So there will be a distinct weight difference.

[@cmick8577]

From a previous video, the F150 with all of its aluminum, is probably still 500 pounds lighter even with a slightly longer bed.

[@lawnpro44]

@@cmick8577 My brother has 2018 with a 6.5 foot bed. It's really not that much lighter than a steel 2013. The weight savings might be in an XL model not in a Lariat. The new aluminium trucks have so many more options now than the the older steel models did.

[@cmick8577]

@@lawnpro44 The Ram is also well optioned. Look it up. Apples to apples the curb weight on the Ram is about 600-800 pounds heavier. 9” more bed on the Ram from a 5’7” to 6’4” isn’t erasing that.

[@lawnpro44]

There are no websites that publish the curb weight of a 2025 Ram yet. Not even their own. It might be a touch heavier apples to apples but long box to short box could be a different tale. Either way that 3.0 packs some punch. Sure blows the doors off that 2.7 in the GM. That’s the only other inline that’s close in displacement.

[@imkwuzn]

Am I the only one who noticed the entire dash in the F150 shaking while Andre was filming? The Ram looked rock solid.

[@jasonmelton8966]

I agree I've gotten out of my hemi with 26 gal tank 545 to a tank at 75 mph

[@BigInjun05]

Im impressed with that ram engine.

[@ryanb8736]

Not even the HO. That engine is on another level.

[@vyasshivang8660]

3.5 Eco boost is great engine.

[@ryanb8736]

Straight 6 is better though. The HO will be even better. Ford should have kept their straight 6.

[@Ratkill9000]

@@ryanb8736 High Output is only available in the Limited and Tungsten luxury trucks and the Grand Wagoneer. The base model, big horn, laramie, Rebel will never see high output engine.

[@jaredwyaco9369]

Good to see tonneau covers on both trucks!

[@josipdolic6391]

Solid numbers

[@normbittner3762]

Gotta love in-line sixes!

[@stevehunt9703]

Its half an engine. 6 L V12 would be worth talking about.

[@JROC734]

Well not really. I like I6's, but they have their faults. They're long, they're heavy, and they're generally pretty ugly, even though engine covers help a lot.

[@Thedoors432]

I believe this will be a great engine for RAM. Glad Ford is getting competition. Maybe Ford will start doing realistic pricing now.

[@robbycheaib1719]

These ram trucks are priced crazy as well

[@Steve-yr5vi]

Are RAM trucks priced any lower, the last time I looked RAM trucks were priced higher than comparable Ford trucks.

[@jtthedon4230]

RAM/JEEP anything Stellantis is the most expensive out of the big 3 GOOFY!!!🤔🤐🤪😂😭

[@melvinhunt6976]

Ford! Have you been to a GM, Ram, Toyota dealer lately? Obviously Not!

[@fredmoucatel2058]

No difference at dodge ! But really it's the dealers that make the difference in pricing . You have to look at the MSRP number first .

[@LionRunner]

Wow I didn't noticed that on Denver 100 loop you are passing my house on E470. If I see you I will go in front of you and put my head out the moonroof to add some comedy to the video 😀😀

[@Tommy-Tucker]

The rearend gearing in the ram, gave it a little bit of an advantage in the 0 to 60.

[@jcshobbiesandrecreation5873]

Nice video. Looks like the Hurricane is going to be a nice replacement for the old Hemi. Looking forward to performance mods and the release of the RHO. I enjoyed the 0-60 runs but would have liked to see a side by side run.

[@itgoesfast2722]

Can’t wait to see what self destruct mechanism is designed into the new hurricane engine like it’s predecessor and it’s defective lifters that usually fail after the warranty has expired.

[@techevar]

Ram has really stepped up their game! Now the question would be which one would be more reliable.

[@tonyc7435]

I work for Stellantis, and own an F-150. Hope that answers your question without having to say it.

[@M4sterT3ch]

Steer well clear of anything Stellantis.

[@Flies2FLL]

I'm glad to see you are still on the channel, since most YT'ers are bailing due to the fact that big YT channels have been bought by media conglomerates. I won't watch Donut anymore....

[@bgehsen]

That was a great match up. I love this channel and look forward to these videos. Andre, this time, i don't think you launched the f150 correctly. 6.7 sec to 60 in a 3.5 ecoboost doesn't sound right. That truck is faster than that even a mile above sea level.

[@jhrubicon1470]

The first time they did this test 0-60 they were less than 1 second apart! The dodge was brake brake torqued a lot harder so boost was already there! 3.73 vs 3.55 gearing as well

[@chiplangowski3298]

The gear ratio difference was likely even greater. The towing ratio in the RAM is 3.92 and the standard, non-towing ratio in the Ford is 3.31.

[@jkim13055]

The ford doesn't let you build any boost from a stop. I have a 21 3.5 and the best launch by far is if the surface is wet, and if it starts to spin while brake boosting in 4a. Then the tq management gives up and it rips and hops . Otherwise it's very weak out of the hole

[@jhrubicon1470]

@@chiplangowski3298 I thought it was 3.55 on the Ford but I'm pretty sure I've been wrong before lol. Either way the Ram had a huge advantage in this one. He braked it hard enough for it to break traction, I could hear it.

[@seandemura128]

@@jhrubicon1470 3.55 standard for 3.5 on the 2024s. 3.31 for 2021-2023.

[@ryanb8736]

Straight 6 is a faster engine. Wait till the HO version is tested.

[@treyhart6861]

Hmmm, there is a video idea... 87 vs 91 octane... Does it REALLY make that big of a difference with a stock NA, vs stock turbo?

[@treyhart6861]

But PLEASE, try to keep the axle ratios the same...... Actually...... There is another video idea!! Completely identical trucks, but one has 3.23, another has 3.55, then 3.73.... and of course, don't forget the 4.56 gearing!! I'd also love to see an interstate loop, AND a city loop. Just because a truck can maintain 23 mpg with the cruise control set at 70 means nothing between stoplights.... And then, the really hard one! The interstate by me is 80... How do these trucks do at 80-85mph?? Speeds completely within the realm of real world driving. I have about a 300 mile stretch I've done several times now, 80mph speed limit 90% of the time.

[@JHuffPhoto]

Although you eliminate as many variables as possible this mpg results are well within the margin of error. The inconsistent top off on the Ecoboost could make the results very different. Both trucks did great. I also get great results from my 22 RAM 5.7 HEMI although not quite that good unless I slow down a bit.

[@neilcarter77]

I’ll stick with the 3.5 ecoboost!!

[@fireant1272]

Mine was garbage after 60k miles so many issues.😢

[@rogeriopimenta6247]

The 2.7 seems to be great, but the 3.5 is problematic. I would rather a inline 6 over a V6 anyways.

[@brandondannys-menary3678]

@@rogeriopimenta6247don’t the 2.7s have a belt driven oil pump which are prone to failure? The engines were awesome aside from that damn belt

[@rogeriopimenta6247]

@@brandondannys-menary3678 Even the coyote has it now.

[@plmn93]

@@brandondannys-menary3678 After over six years on the market and quite literally millions sold I have not seen one single example on the forums of that belt failing. So no, they are not "prone to failure".

[@RGP_WA]

I would never buy any car with a newly designed engine in it's first year. Still love my 2018 3.5 lariat!

[@HEMI345375]

Its not a new engine its been in the jeeps for well over a year now!

[@woodrmp1]

Yep I have an 18 3.5 platinum and not a single engine issue. Can barely tell it’s running it’s so smooth.

[@tymac3306]

Mythbusters did a show on pickup truck bed cover and tested for fuel economy. It turned out the cover was harder on fuel, and by a decent amount as well. You guys need to test this I'd say. I'd watch it!!

[@ebenezerwheezer2957]

@tymac3306 On Dec.20, 2022 TFL did test Tonneau Cover versus Open Bed. Having a tonneau cover got 1.6 miles per gallon BETTER gas mileage. MythBusters found the exact same thing. MythBusters also found that removing the tailgate was worse.😢 Have a safe 4th of July. Take care

[@Quijoteb]

So you all doing Tx commutes .. cheers ya’ll

[@EnthusiastCarHangar]

That kid could be a car salesman. Talks and talks and knows it all.

[@benoitdufresne337]

How about checking for typos before posting, makes you look bad.🤣

[@derfderfson]

​@@benoitdufresne337oh no

[@notabotiswear]

Your sound old and sad

[@derfderfson]

@@benoitdufresne337 oh no

[@kbarrett1844]

Would you view a comparison between two trucks without commentary?

[@blankrobber]

2.7 Ecoboost would be a better comparo. It is faster 0-60 and gets better mpg. I drove a hurricane recently and loved it. Like any new powerplant I'm sure it will be optimized for durability and efficiency in later gens

[@engineer_alv]

The reason the 2.7 Ecoboost is faster is because it's usually fitted to lighter trucks. Lariats and above don't offer the 2.7 anymore and on top of that the tested truck is a Crew Cab long bed, 4x4, with a tall gear ratio (3.31?), pretty much the heftiest and slowest 3.5 Ecoboost of them all. That Ram looks like a lightly optioned Big Horn. A Laramie with the long bed might still win but it would be much closer than these two

[@blankrobber]

Would love to see a 2.7 v 3.5 in the same otherwise optioned vehicle. I was under the impression that the 2.7 was so quick was due to the torque at earlier rpm

[@dmandman9]

@@blankrobber The 2.7 is actually as quick or slightly quicker than the 3.5 when the truck is empty. The 3.5 significantly outperforms it when loaded or towing. So if I didn’t need the extra towing or hauling capacity, I’d choose the 2.7. It’s a solid engine as well. But gets better fuel economy.

[@andyd5492]

Range matters any time. It even helps miss fuel price spikes becuae you nay not have to fill up during that period.

[@ryanford7836]

Finally, you took my advice. I had to comment on like every video suggesting to put it up against a 3.5 eco-boost and then for the first time, you only did one 0 to 60 test I liked you because you were thorough. I feel like you were running out of time this video.

[@tbone9405]

Impressive fuel mileage, I like the ram for power, the ford for mpg.

[@A2J_Tim]

they were basically the same and the ram had a disadvantage with the lower gear ratio rear end which will make it rev higher on the highway. I bet if both trucks had the identical ratio, the ram would have posted better numbers than the ford. Both are nice trucks and I have driven an ecoboost 3.5 on many long trips, its a very nice truck and very comfortable.

[@plmn93]

@@A2J_Tim The Ford would have been faster to 60 with a different rear end too. All in all they seem to be close to a wash for performance and economy. But remember Ford has dual injection to keep the intake clean, a dipstick, and a much better base engine in the 2.7 compared to Ram's 3.6. I do like that you can get 4A on a midlevel Ram, though.

[@jeffkondra8246]

Ill take the F150, it's been proven to be a good engine already.

[@BuCkYwUcKy123]

1. F150 was long bed 2. Did Andre turn traction control off? 3. Was Andre in 4x4 like the ram?

[@ryanb8736]

A straight six will always win. Thats not even the HO. HO puts trucks into 4’s. Fast. Then you will have tuning too. Dodges best engine choice to date.

[@BuCkYwUcKy123]

@@ryanb8736 Don't disagree, but at least level the playing field.

[@codemang3635]

Soooo glad to see a turbo straight six. It'll be in very high demand for engine swaps. I'd also like to see if there's any more open engine bay space under the hood than the v6.

[@CJColvin]

For me I still choose a V8

[@CJColvin]

I doubt it mate

[@hitempguy]

2.7 ecoboost Ive done 900 miles on 36 gallons at 70mph with 3.73 rear

[@stevehunt9703]

How about towing a load like tricks were designed to do?

[@spacebound1969]

​@@stevehunt9703 The 2.7 is amazing at towing anything below 7k pounds

[@TramaineleDay5655]

Top off smirnoff, lol😂😅

[@devn3813]

Their prices are absolutely insane.

[@xTouragx]

I am very impressed by the highway MPG on both trucks...my "little" 2019 Ranger XL 2WD with a slight lift and 33's gets around 24 mpg on the highway at the same speeds...with that being said I would rather have a V8 in both trucks...nice review and video gents thanks.

[@ryanb8736]

A V8 will have less power and torque with worst mpg. A straight 6 is the best.

[@xTouragx]

@@ryanb8736 Not if you want a normally aspirated motor...in the case of a full size truck I would rather have a normal V8...I do acknowledge you get a better torque curve with the Turbos...but in a full size I want the rumble and "experience" of a smooth V8...im actually shopping right now for a "very" used F150 with the 5.0...cheers

[@ryanb8736]

@@xTouragx V8’s will only be better in sound. Everything else is better on an inline 6 turbo. Thats what all trailer trucks are inline 6 with huge turbos diesels. They go millions of miles. Tons of torque and power.

[@CJColvin]

​@@ryanb8736I doubt it mate

[@CJColvin]

​@@ryanb8736Why did they made in full size trucks in the first place?

[@trentslusher317]

The ford is more broken in. The Ram should get a little better mpg’s once it has been driven enough.

[@adamharriger5193]

Good results, but I would still wait a few years for the hurricane to prove it’s reliability. You do really have to credit Ford for their foresight- they’ve been at this boosted V6 aluminum body game for 10+ years.

[@brentmacklem1872]

Mechanics i listen to say that the Coyote was built to last compared to the EB.

[@dmandman9]

@@brentmacklem1872I work at Ford. To be honest. Both engines last a long time. You can’t go wrong with either one. However, if you’re the type to be a bit sloppy with maintenance, I’d go with the 5.0 because turbos don’t like missed oil changes. But otherwise it’s mainly just preference.

[@InLineDiesel6]

I think when MPG comparisons between vehicles starts getting close, like in this test, how refills and exactly how much fuel was used becomes questionable. May be repetitive testing, say three or more times could be run and then take the averages. I just don't trust refill measurements, it is easy to be off a tenth or two making a significant difference in the comparison.

[@plmn93]

Yeah. Like they said, the mirrors and rear end alone could easily account for that difference. I've found Fuelly to be a pretty good measure of what differences to expect. As in I may not average what Fuelly shows as an average, but between two vehicles, I'll experience about the same difference that they show.

[@hongshi8251]

Good show tfl. I’ll bet small money that Ram starts to sell more of these. I’m not saying hugely more but definitely a few more.

[@johnkokkas5052]

Everything is good. When it's brand new, we'll see what happens down the road. Could end up being junk like the new Toyota motor. And the new EcoDiesels were great during testing. And we know how they all turned out. Time will tell!

[@omardevonlittle3817]

Lol the hurricane has been in stellantis cars just as long as Toyotas v6 TT... it's clearly a better engine... CLEARLY. The hurricane has been in the wagoneer for over 2 years now. Zero of the issues Yota is having

[@formerice]

My Ecodiesel has averaged over 30 mpg for almost 180,000 mi and been trouble free. Tuned when new. Don't see any reason to trade.

[@truckguy6.7]

@@omardevonlittle3817 Toyota will work out the details surrounding the V6TT. 15 years from now people will be talking about how legendary that motor is. Went through this when Toyota first introduced there V6's back in the day. This is just a small hiccup for them.

[@virgfresco1403]

I love that straight six tt for power and hope that it will show up soon on the Stellantis mid size trucks. 💪💪💪

[@ivancliff2514]

A mile above sea level is defeated by the turbos. The engine will make the same boost regardless of the elevation. Unless you’re on top of a mountain full boost is achieved.

[@jamesvasser2941]

Pretty even performances. What’s the as tested price for each of those trucks?

[@pcihector]

The HO boost up to 28 psi. Ford learned their lesson and put port inyection alongside the direct inyection. Lets see what happens when you mix 28 psi of boost with some carbon deposits in the intake valves.

[@coachvonyo]

Most of the whining about this engine is BS. This particular concern is something I worry about.

[@MrFordguy73]

Is the Hurricane direct and port injected like the 3.5?

[@Ratkill9000]

@@MrFordguy73 No, just direct injected. However they are in the works with BG to make a injection cleaning setup to have it done every I think 30k miles, per our BG rep.

[@turdferguson2839]

The new hurricane did very well but that grill is horrible, I still wanna see how the new hurricane compares to the old hemi.

[@MarcMonson]

At least for performance the powerboost vs the high output dodge would be interesting

[@terrybottoms3983]

You need to take a trip to Branson, MO to see Yakov Smirnov and video yourself doing top off Smirnovs along the way 🤪

[@davidk6668]

Price, Price, Price! Then add to that Recalls, Longevity, Durability. The Hurricane has a long way to go to prove it is even a comparable engine to the Ecoboost. Put it in the Wrangler and Gladiator and let’s see how well it really works!

[@jhrubicon1470]

@@davidk6668 jeeps were at their best with the 4.0l inline in the tj (especially lj 6spd rubicon)

[@ryanb8736]

Inline 6 will always win.

[@AgonxOC]

@@jhrubicon1470This is NOT that tractor engine and still have to prove itself. I can only hope it’s a good one!

[@dennisrutherford6973]

I would buy a Ram with Hurricane engine before I would buy a Ford with an Ecoturd

[@M4sterT3ch]

Any jeep with the Pentasuck motor in it is straight trash.