Ram 2500 NEW 7.2L Cummins Diesel Engine?? *Diesel Mechanic Review*

[@rockie307]

Modern diesels have crazy power but are way to complicated and high maintenance. Quit the power race and make something reliable and simple.

[@GettysGarage]

Big power numbers sells trucks. Reliability not so much it seems

[@ALMX5DP]

@@GettysGarage would love to hear about any potential differences in reliability and longevity between civilian pickups and those commercial trucks that are detuned a bit in terms of power and torque.

[@herculesinwyoming]

I have a 2016 with the 800 ft pounds of torque before I deleted it. I have never felt the need for more power, and especially I don't feel the need to spend 100 grand plus for the same model in 2025

[@greggreen6636]

Complication caused by epa.

[@tonydiesel3444]

The GOOD ONES are 20 years old

[@Korruptionen]

Anyone else feel like the EPA has gone too far? It's just costing all of us more.

[@davidjernigan8161]

Yes. Between EGR, DPF, and SCR and all the issues along with the poor fuel economy a gas engine might be more sensible. Let's hope the manufacturers sue the EPA after the supreme Court threw out Chevron deference

[@greathey1234]

That's the point, to force you EV route like it or not

[@Zzus321]

There's a new sheriff in town things are changing

[@joeblow5037]

@@Zzus321 Damn straight!!!

[@ALMX5DP]

I'm not necessarily upset by it. Yes it'll cost the owner/operators more but that should be passed along to the consumer and as a consumer I am okay with that. For those purchasing for personal use and leisure, I am okay with those aspects being more expensive in order to have that.

[@reedjensen4355]

Bring back the Manual Transmission option!

[@DavidGolden-b7p]

Yes please do that sorry but every vehicle being automatic is ridiculous n manual transmission prevents theft from younger generations stealing it

[@Bigboss_cutNpray]

Mpg is phasing them out. Sad but true

[@user-fz3sz2dj4r]

nobody will buy them lol

[@donnieleeman8817]

No

[@Michael-Youtube98]

For 1000 people country wide to buy one? I understand the nostalgia sentiment but the manuals are a thing of the past....manufacturers know this, dealers know this, I know this and you know this. The manual is phasing out in Tractor Trailers for a reason too..... they're getting better than manuals(application specific of course). Heavy Haul trucks are even shifting to auto...

[@Null_Null_Null]

Abolish the EPA.

[@DITLASMR]

You should look up the London smog.

[@Null_Null_Null]

@DITLASMR nah, I could care less about london 🤷‍♂️

[@alanmay7929]

@@Null_Null_Null youre too funny! good luck with the EPA! its going to make your life a hell trust me!

[@garymatusavige402]

Truly wich is worse a third world country polution and no money or lots of money and being a slave to pay for it having pay for the inflation because every truck is more and everything else we pay for that is related to trucking I can't think of anything that isn't moved by one sonthe add costs crippling economy

[@DEzellMedia]

@@DITLASMRnot real

[@herculesinwyoming]

My 2016 has never left me wishing for more power, also i dont want to spend 100 grand plus for the same model in 2025

[@jeffreygoss8109]

Exactly. My truck isn’t a race car or a limo. I just need a reliable diesel with 400-500 ft/lbs

[@slocavky]

I'd love to see Trump strip the EPA of all this power they have. It's unreal to me how out of control they have became.

[@brokenwrench404]

Same with the ATF

[@blackcoffee730]

​@brokenwrench404 absolutely!

[@duckwacker8720]

They have non. They are not being controlled

[@stover77]

What have they done that's out of control? I appreciate that we don't have smog and soot filled cities anymore compared to 25 years ago. Im not trying to argue, just trying to see where you're coming from.

[@nahbro3240]

Tbh having no def with all them semis on the road? You wont be able to breath

[@idaho_7407]

They could simply increase the stroke and not the bore, therefore fitting into the current body style. Also this would provide more to torque at lower rpm and cooler operating temperature.

[@coff3eSl0th]

6.7 to 7.2 really isn't a big jump. Increasing the stroke by 9mm would get you to 7.2L, but you could also increase the bore by 4mm, or somewhere in the middle - boring 3mm and stroking 2mm. They should fit in the existing block design, or at worst it would be less than an inch longer if they had to increase the bore spacing. When they went from the 5.9 to 6.7 they bored it 5mm and stroked it 4mm, so the 3mm/2mm seems most likely

[@Math-zl8kq]

Insider are talking about a 6.7 430hp/1075ft-lbs steel block with a new head and ZF8 for 2025.

[@GettysGarage]

I think that’s what’s coming in 2025. But so wouldn’t be shocked to see a 7.2 eventually

[@kuhndog-1196]

It's all about NOX emissions. Bigger displacement=same power with lower egts.

[@stevenyoung5329]

@kuhndog-1196 If they actually made the move to speed of air pistons, the NOX would plummet.

[@MrAl2742]

​@@stevenyoung5329For sure, they need all the tech (ducted fuel injection, higher injection pressure, lower compression, speed of air piston) to help them pass these ultra stringent emission regulation

[@wizard_of_poz4413]

​@@stevenyoung5329 not really

[@thefordman3955]

I miss the good ole 12v days back when emissions were essentially irrelevant yet it was insanely simple and reliable.

[@stover77]

That's understandable. 12v is an awesome engine. On the other hand, not having smog and soot filled cities is also nice.

[@thefordman3955]

@ it’s not an emissions issue, it’s a control issue.

[@stover77]

@thefordman3955 Do you mean they're controlling what engine/car manufacturers can make or install in vehicles? Or something else?

[@thefordman3955]

@@stover77 I mean the government has become way to controlling in general

[@jaxsongleghorn7051]

Absolutely love my 94 12 valve can’t go wrong with the 4x4 5 speed !!

[@jakewilson24]

While I agree the epa needs a reality check, it will be cool to see potentially some new motors. I understand the “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it” phrase, but I’m actually a little excited for some bigger displacement diesels in these HD trucks

[@GettysGarage]

I'm all for bigger engines!

[@JD-mq8ej]

I just completely rebuilt an 03 6.0, im sick of all of it. Ill keep this relic alive forever now...

[@GettysGarage]

Ahhh yes, back when engines were made to last. Love me a 6L, not the most powerful things anymore but she'll get ya home every time!

[@ethanyates28]

@@GettysGarage which 6 L are we talking about?

[@LBrawn]

You rebuilt it yourself or had somebody else do it?

[@garymatusavige402]

Unless you live in South or keep it in glass box father time and rust will happen eventually they make the frames so thin lucky is 20 yrs out of truck there always few that survive being parked inside some place

[@JD-mq8ej]

@@garymatusavige402 I live in the south

[@Dazza-u4c]

It is still a 6.7 in the 2025. How do I know this ? Mark Dodge has already released the 2025 spec sheets and the 6.7 HO is the only diesel on offer as well as the 6.4 Hemi. The Diesel is 430 HP 1075 torque

[@josephleblanc5126]

I work next door to mark Dodge

[@dickberry3910]

Dodge brothers told me they are going back to the 5.9 without commie fluid.

[@skyisdlimit6125]

Just gotta wait for EPA get some shake up from the new sheriff

[@GettysGarage]

lol

[@maxstrong1999]

Government has the impulse response of a damn cargo ship. It would be unlikely that any admin can stop the incoming regulations.

[@M_dot202]

​@@maxstrong1999the incoming administration is not your typical uniparty swamp dwellers. Change IS coming.🇺🇲

[@maxstrong1999]

@M_dot202 still doubtful

[@NevetsRael]

Why didn’t the sheriff do it his first time around?

[@realcdcruze3558]

If the engine is coming out in 2026 or 2027 Ram would keep this tight lipped or they would struggle to sell 2025 trucks. Be interesting to see if California starts restricting maximum diesel pick up trucks registered in the state like they do with CDL trucks.

[@montysandhu7789]

A engineer for Cummins said the new trans comes in 25 but the 7.2 comes in 2-3 years. He also said the lifters would be way better than the garbage they have now. Stellantis ruined these trucks leaving the tried and true flat tappets I personally think they should recall them like they did the cp4s but I doubt that’ll happen.

[@GSKYYT]

Flat tappers are dog shhh tough, anyone with a grade 3 level of knowledge knows this which is why the 6.9 idi had rollers in 1983 (as well as the 73 ps)… the 12v Cummins had flat tappers but oil back then had more zinc in it and the engine was massively overbuilt.

[@jnk26]

Stelantis has zero control over Cummins. It's not like the 6.7 in the pickup is unique to the pickup. It's in all of the Cummins 6.7s of this generation.

[@montysandhu7789]

@BrandonLeech yeah that’s correct this guy has no clue what he’s saying this KZbin channel covered how the commercial 6.7 engines in busses still have flat tappet lifters

[@jnk26]

@BrandonLeech I can't find any procedure for a 2020-2024 B6.7 valve lash(flat tappet cams) nothing from Cummins or any other sight says otherwise. I'm sure they all have the rollers after 2019. You can still order previous generation engines from Cummins. I drove a 2012 MCI J4500 that had a Brand new Cummins ISX12(2010 Emissions) installed back in March. Shipped right from Indiana.

[@jnk26]

@@montysandhu7789 I didn't say they couldn't order a different spec did I? I said they have ZERO CONTROL. I pull back the part of the comment about all engines, but I bet you can order the Cummins 6.7 with rollers in certain applications. I really am not a fan of Cummins and every one I have every driven has let me down on the side of the road many times, even a brand new ISX12 with less than 11000km. Clearly the Cummins people weren't acting in best faith for the customer, especially because the 2025 is still running the same shit lifters.

[@tyler3372]

Well, these hd trucks are already over 100 grand in Canada, im thinking these new trucks will get us up to 115 grand lol

[@Whiskeybende]

Pretty soon the EPA will want the exhaust to be cleaner than the air the engine is pulling in! Ridiculous!

[@27dmarshall]

One big thing wrong with the new Cummins Turbo Diesel..... It will be installed in a Stellantis product.

[@GettysGarage]

With a 2010 designed cab

[@ALMX5DP]

@@GettysGarage I see that as a positive in some respects.

[@yourfavoritewelder3162]

Make it as reliable as a 4th gen and I’ll be happy

[@kd5zwf]

I'm still rolling on the 1st 6.7l 3rd gen

[@22mpb]

Yup. Never getting rid of mine

[@RoccoReviews]

It is a 4th gen still, just has a newer interior and front fascia

[@aam.2900]

That’d be illegal haha

[@wizard_of_poz4413]

​@@aam.2900why

[@sniper60605]

Let’s just hope when uncle Dan gets an office in January that he sorts out a lot of this overly aggressive emission standards that the EPA is putting out.

[@andrewslagle1974]

He already started bro!!!!!!!

[@NevetsRael]

@@andrewslagle1974 y’all conveniently forget that he’s already had his chance his first time around and he didn’t do anything so yeah.

[@christopherjb274]

They also forget the half yhe US car buying population lives in Carb states where federal emmissions are worrhless because state emissions are way more stringent and more states are planning to adopt CARB regulations

[@wizard_of_poz4413]

Blunpf is probably gonna ban regular vehicles to help his buddy elon

[@2010drive]

@@wizard_of_poz4413 More like removing the EV tax credit. Don't let TDS get to you

[@michaellabit6229]

We were using these engines back in 80s in the offshore oilfield services. After years of trial and error the in-line engines out performed and out lasted everything else. Also all engines had a pre-lube pump. I think it would be mistake to go back to V anything. They seem more concerned about pleasing EPA then adding simple items that will increase engine life.Add prelude system before anything else

[@joeblow5037]

Hang tight citizens....The EPA is getting ready to have a come to Jesus meeting.

[@GettysGarage]

Something is gonna happen

[@ALMX5DP]

Nothing significant happened the last time, not sure there is any credence to anything different happening this time around.

[@NM-235]

@@ALMX5DPchevron being thrown out will make a bigger difference and 47 isn’t going to rely on the establishment this time.

[@ALMX5DP]

@@NM-235 I dont think it will really. Things could be locked up in court for years if there is a difference of interpretation. That or the creation or amending of statutes will be similarly stymied by legal processes before they'll ever have a chance to be practically applied.

[@technom3598]

Chevron isn't applicable to EPA issues. These aren't EPA regulations. These are codified laws brought in by the clean air act. so they aren't regulations... They are in fact laws. I hate it too but Chevron has nothing to do with it. These were laws not rules being enforced as laws. ​@@NM-235

[@michaellabit6229]

We were using these engines back in 80s in the offshore oilfield services. After years of trial and error the in-line engines out performed and out lasted everything else. Also all engines had a pre-lube pump. I think it would be mistake to go back to V anything.

[@jordanh4127]

My neighbor has his 2000 ford f350 with the 7.3 diesel for sale. Only has 110k miles. Worth it?

[@jerryavlon4780]

Great video! The future may not be all doom and gloom after all. 👍🙏❤️

[@blakedismuke3656]

Semi trucks check egt temperatures after the turbo charger as light trucks check the temp before the turbo. This is why people in semi trucks say don’t let you get get over 900

[@anthonymacneil2279]

Ram is also rumored to be bringing back the V8 as the Hurricane has alot of issues. Really glad to hear this. Cheers

[@zelenizub2036]

V8 hemi has issues too😢.

[@dillonh321]

@@zelenizub2036 But it’s a lot better than the Hurricanes. Hemis almost never failed before 100k miles. These Hurricane trucks all over my local dealerships service department. Almost all with 5k miles or less. Tech there said it’s the worst engine he has ever seen reliability wise.

[@BoughieBouge]

I got 400,000km on mine. Run a 5w30 oil and actually drive the things they're a performance grade V8. Made to be ran hard. ​@@zelenizub2036

[@cpftank09]

I’m wondering if manufactures are waiting for the next administration to make major changes. If what we hear about Trump’s next term and changes to stricter emissions, things could change in a positive way for us enthusiasts as well as vehicle manufacture.

[@maxstrong1999]

Doubt it. Government is too slow. Combined with CARB and all the states who follow CARB the federal government may be fairly unable to do anything.

[@rhod8201]

The new sheriff gonna get their mind right

[@wizard_of_poz4413]

No he's not

[@leethomas556]

It would be nice but I won't be holding my breath

[@wizard_of_poz4413]

@leethomas556 vote with your feet. Move to a polluted 3rd world cesspool

[@kuhndog-1196]

Hold on. When did it become Gettys garage?? Did I miss something, lol. I like it though. You are about to toe the line of a tfl and a build channel. I see bright things in your future.

[@tome6551]

I hope something comes! Even if they tweaked the 6.7, it will be more reliable. Bring the flat tappet and redesign the grid heater bolt. A 6.7 paired with the ZF will be great. Maybe redesign the after treatment too.

[@adambatchelder4121]

Sorry I'm not even a little excited about modern smog motors in overly complicated and expensive trucks . I'm much more excited about finding clean pre emissions cars and trucks .

[@Pandorum12345]

Sounds like they will opt out for better cooling and a larger diameter exhaust with a dpf the size of a 55 gal barrel to get those temps down until a larger engine can be developed

[@ggxl]

Bring back the G56 transmission, was a favorite of mine.

[@Sackmatters]

I’ll just keep my 04 dodge. Cummins with a nv5600, 4 door, dually, aluminum flatbed and 500 hp is all I need. Pulls great and I don’t have to worry about transmission issues.

[@PersonalBestOutdoors]

It makes sense for a company like cummins to release a new engine a couple years before new EPA standards. Many companies release new products before having to ensure compliance. This gives real world feedback and usage to continue improving on their products. As we get closer to new requirements, every small thing that is changed can have major implications on performance, reliability and driveability. This is why I buy up the old ones and keep them running. 2002 Ford F350 with a ZF6 ECLB 4x4. 234k. Still running strong 2003 ram 2500 laramie QCLBwith a 5.9. 4x4. 252k and still runs like new. 2007.5 Dodge Ram 3500 DRW g56 megacab 4x4. 151k. Give me a strong pre 2008 diesel on a 6spd manual any day.

[@GettysGarage]

It does make some sense for sure! And I agree an old good running diesel is something to keep around. Bought a 95 7.3 power stroke and it’s just a simple truck to keep running

[@evoemperor3776]

Problem is they don't tow much more than an f150 with ecoboost.

[@PersonalBestOutdoors]

@evoemperor3776 what? Put the bottle down. The eco boost is capable of 13,500. Ram 3500 is 15,540. Let's not forget that while the f150 may have an impressive towing capacity for it's size, it is still a 1/2ton truck. My father in law has one of them. His 6800lb travel trailer (bumper pull) Has that thing squatting like a dog passing peach pits even with a distribution hitch. I'm sorry, but just cuz it can, doesn't mean it should, nor is it wise.

[@DolphinDivingChamp]

My in law is a test engineer for the emissions systems at cummins, he said they ran out of time and could not get the emissions to work correctly and itll all get recalled

[@williamwarner3982]

Bigger displacement doesn't require a larger block. .5L is easily achieved by a longer stroke and possible bore size.

[@Randomshxt]

Fast lane truck put out a video and although it hasn't been officially confirmed, a Ram insider said there will be a 7.2. They are talking about an 8 speed trans. The body and interior is probably going to remain basically the same with some minor changes. They did put out some specs but it sounds like there will be an HO in the 2500 with specs just about meeting the competition. Imo its nice and all but behind on the remodeling compared to competitors.

[@ericbrunius7173]

In light of the Chevron Doctrine being struck down by the Supreme Court, the EPA no longer has unfettered power to just create rules out of thin air. My guess is that manufacturers are letting things sort their way out in that regard. In another 10 years the EPA would have standards that are not achievable which is of the California school of thought

[@savedbygracethroughfaith7932]

Didn’t the whole diesel regulations start with congress passing it or was it all created by the EPA?

[@ericbrunius7173]

Congress creates vague laws and these agencies have gradually gone completely out of control with their own agenda. Chevron struck down their (not just the EPA either) unfettered regulations.

[@mrvwbug4423]

EPA operates under congressional mandate regarding vehicle emissions, Chevron does not apply.

[@davidlefranc6240]

They should beef it up to 7.7 to 8 liters IMO if they lower the power abit keeping it at 400hp but with a 7.7-8 liters would produce an easy 1300 ft of torque !There is no substitute for cubic inches especialy in the comercial industry!

[@jnk26]

The L9 has a 450hp 1250lbft rating for RVs and fire trucks. You can get it with 350hp/1150lbft for buses. Motor is still way too heavy for a pickup. The 6k front axle is a huge limiting factor as to what can be put in the engine bay. The L9 is 1700lbs. That 650 more than the 6.7. Even the 8.3C was 1650lbs dry.

[@davidlefranc6240]

@@jnk26 They could use a 7.7 Detroit its a V8 if i remember correctly 350 hp and 1400 tq its probably lighter than this L9!

[@jnk26]

@@davidlefranc6240 dd8 is around 1400lbs. Still less torque than the L9. At 1050lbft. And it's HP is way up at 2200rpm(like the L9) still better than the 6.6/6.7 Cummins at 2800rpm and the Ford 6.7 at 2600rpm(SO/HO)

[@aaronkelley8909]

Ram 2500 is a soccer mom truck. The pay load is only 1800 pounds

[@GettysGarage]

lol soccer mom truck I like that. and yes the payloads are pretty low

[@SergeyPupkoMusic]

The EPA needs to be turned into a museum lf bureaucratic overfrach and a cautionary tale.

[@coff3eSl0th]

Wait, why are they limiting manuals? What does the transmission have to do with the environment?

[@RMs-q6f]

I have a family member that works for Cummins as an engineer And is involved in this project We talked about it over Thanksgiving He is working on a 7.2 L That is planned for use in ram pickup This engine has not been designed to fit the existing cab dimensions. Supposedly Ram is working on a complete redesigning for 2027MY We will not see this Engine earlier then 2027MY and there is a good possibility not released until 2028MY

[@PremiumFuelOnly]

At some point, Cummins will have to offer Stellantis a Propane or Hybrid Powertrain to keep down warranty costs.

[@markbroad119]

They already make an 8.3 inline 6 that gets out into combines. I love my '95 7.3. ZERO epa bs

[@johnregal5098]

Ram will be luck if they don't go bankrupt before the end of 2025. Any new diesel engine will won't be worth it period. They will be just maintenance nightmares. A 7.2 L or a 8.3L would require the pickup and Chasis Cab front ends to be extended by quite a bit. Would require a front tilt front end. Maybe Trump can slap down the EPA and get rid of these regs (back to pre '98).

[@GettysGarage]

Agreed, lots of folks questioning if Ram will make it and I mean I have two local dealerships in town and some of the trucks I filmed in the summer are still sitting on the lots. nobody wants (or can afford) a 100k truck.

[@theworldaccordingtochris4370]

Bigger cylinders, more dissipation of heat to lower emissions. I don't think they'll do too much more power.

[@joet1669]

I started buying used personal and fleet vehicles due to prices and lack of quality across the board. In my opinion, anyone paying for any new vehicle nowadays is incredibly not smart! Keep paying for them, and they will continue to increase prices and not give a crap about quantity!

[@Datsun280zeeee]

I work for Cummins and had experience working on the new engine. All I will say is that the emission regulations really have a massive impact on this engine which can be a good thing or a bad thing thing depending how you look at it

[@dillonh321]

If you don’t mind sharing. How is it a good thing?

[@Datsun280zeeee]

@ it reduces emissions

[@Upliftyourbrothers]

Figure out how Scania can have euro diesels with no after treatment and meet higher emission requirements. Also. Please make reliability and repairability number 1 priority. Nothing matters when a 100,000$ truck becomes a paperweight when it dumps a $20k motor…

[@Datsun280zeeee]

@ Scania still has 2 SCR’s just no DPF and they over flow the egr. I don’t make the big boy decisions around here lol. As the emissions technology is so advanced with computer controls, yes of course it will be expensive. Thats not our decision. We would love to go back to non egr, non vgt turbo, and no emissions but it ain’t 2007 anymore

[@Upliftyourbrothers]

⁠@@Datsun280zeeee are you guys addressing these hydraulic lifters crapping out? The old style seemed pretty reliable…

[@mauricemotors8207]

Also that ISL9 is a conservative tune they can make way more in some special applications like fire trucks I’ve seen them make 450hp and 1,350torque.

[@gregmyers123]

Wait till you find out that the QSC8.3 marine engine runs at 600hp and is essentially the same engine as an L9 with beefier injectors and a different head/turbo.

[@teresad7174]

I just addressed heater grid bolt on my 2018 Cummins proactively with the Banks setup. I won't be buying a new diesel if I ever move on from this one.

[@robgoffroad]

I'm hoping Trump can get the EPA under control. The whole agency needs to be dissolved, or at the very least, made answerable to the people. All these tuner fines need to be refunded (if collected) or canceled if not. It's all BS.

[@GettysGarage]

I'm all for reasonable emission regulations, but the 2027 mandates are one step too far. Like they want 0.005 grams of particulate matter out of the exhaust which would be 3 times less then a gas engines.

[@shawnderrick1952]

My vote is for "dissolved".

[@mrvwbug4423]

Nothing that can be done at the executive branch level. Congress would have to repeal the clean air act, which is not gonna happen.

[@jeffreygoss8109]

Do we need more power or better reliability? I know most issues are the epa caused but the transmission is not nor is the cheap grid heater.

[@Chief305]

I drive a freightliner classic with a 15.2 liter cat 6NZ! Man I wish there was a smaller version that I can slap in a ram😅

[@shawnderrick1952]

7.2 liters is 440 cubic inches.A Dodge truck with a 440,but it's a diesel.Nice.

[@gixxingthecommute3410]

At the 5:09 mark he said 6.2 ;-) Still, a great video and always informative

[@thim8009]

Im thinking im going to find another 05 and put compounds on it. I am curious to see whats coming though

[@GettysGarage]

hold onto your 5.9 tightly, worth it's weight in gold at this point

[@aaronkelley8909]

I did the compound thing for my 5.9….never again

[@mauricemotors8207]

Hopefully the 7.2l probably won’t have to run as hard due to the displacement .

[@ronsoyka2555]

Perhaps Cummins is ahead of the project ot meet 2027 req and can release the larger engine in 2025 MY. Maybe its not all the way 2027 compliant, yet close enough that they want to get the larger displacement engine into the market?

[@GettysGarage]

That is what makes this very interesting because it would make sense to build an engine to be 2027 emission compatible being so close to 2027. But my bet is another 6.7 for now.

[@kenmunozatmmrrailroad6853]

As a commercial driver- we don't need higher hp/tq numbers, give us longevity, better emissions equipment, and bombproof trans.

[@mrvwbug4423]

but the bro truck guys on their giant rims and rubber band tires need 1500lb/ft for their pavement princesses that will never tow anything haha.

[@marcochavanne]

You cant even use all 1,200ft-lbs from the Power Stroke. I dont understand all the number chasing when it doesnt change anything in the real world.

[@kuhndog-1196]

I agree. Plus this battle for power just worsens emissions problems. It's just nuts.

[@Tommypollock]

In the first few gears , all of them have torque management protecting the drive train.

[@TheTripleDubya]

Towing ?

[@anthonyrowland9072]

It's literally just a d*ck measuring contest. Like please don;t gut the EPA so people can have faster even more giant trucks they don't need...

[@anthonyrowland9072]

@@TheTripleDubya You towing a load of Coors back from Texarkana or something?

[@skipdegraff6547]

Ram is going out of business

[@GettysGarage]

I wouldn't be shocked tbh

[@lexustech48]

They would probably just add more stroke to the crank to get the displacement.

[@wayfoxley-connolly935]

Your right on the money about the engine.

[@keithmceuen8775]

Boost and fuel doesn’t work like that with a diesel boost actually improves fuel economy because it leans out the air fuel ratio

[@rogergraves242]

Dose it have Deff.cus if it dose i don't want it.

[@douglasfark169]

Order guides are out. The options are 6.4 hemi gas or 6.7 diesel for 2500 and 3500 trucks.

[@joeym.5273]

My ol’ 24 valve is just gonna have to live forever. I work on aftertreatment professionally, but I would not have it on my personal vehicle.

[@bulkchart3239]

i think i hope trump stops all of this crap!

[@atg1338]

VONSHITZINPANTS knows about crap🤣

[@jts9120]

​@@atg1338Biden?

[@robertburgess6100]

Trump can't fo anything about it. Besides, he's a idiot.

[@wizard_of_poz4413]

He's probably gonna ban regular vehicles

[@montysandhu7789]

@@wizard_of_poz4413 his best buddy is the biggest EV guy trumps a Israel first cuck

[@Project-gr6zy]

Here's a few things to leave here 1. The epa requirements are making things further and further more difficult for myself and others to make and sell vehicles/engines which is part of my goals and dreams Machining equipment to make engines has come so far down in cost but all these new epa mandates just take away that dream or make it much harder, especially for someone such as myself with less than 50k in capital to invest at one time 2. My dealer tech side of things (yes I'm a mechanic for one of the big 3), these emission systems from all of the makes are horrible, they are expensive and time consuming to repair

[@johnmattiazzo3900]

How does a larger displacement diesel engine make less emissions it would use more fuel cause it’s larger but gas engines shrink to make less emissions??

[@mauricemotors8207]

Imo they have to work less due to the longer stroke that the bigger class 8 trucks have they don’t have to work as hard vs the smaller ISC and ISB

[@brendanhayes2752]

What about the Cummins opposed piston diesel they have been working on with Achates?

[@JAKE3914]

🤣🤣🤣 Love your tool cart!!!

[@toofastnobrakes]

And still no update to the HD gas option? Sad

[@stevenyoung5329]

Speed of air pistons maybe

[@blackcoffee730]

Stellanis CEO is gone as of today. I wonder if their direction will change.

[@Kingranch688]

if this comes out ford should bring the 7.3 back as a variant of the 6.7 ps

[@Massey461]

By that same logic, could I derate the HP/TQ in my '23 6.7L HO to reduce heat and stress without damaging it? Power is nice, but can definitely live with less in a work truck if it means better longevity.

[@gregmyers123]

Yes that is exactly the reason why the cab chassis engines are derated to 360HP.

[@RickheadWashington]

Don't think there is time for a 7.2 in 2025. It's probably in the works. But we would know by now if they were using the 7.2's on the production line.

[@truckcampertraveler7369]

Bring back the 12 valve 6BT 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@CivilianAF.1483]

Man, I miss the 12 valve. I'm not a big fan of the 6.7 and 68rfe.

[@raymond_sycamore]

All I know is it'll be TOO EXPENSIVE

[@ND-tu7ww]

At this point the HP TQ wars are insane & out of control especially with such aggressive torque management programmed into these trucks. Other than bragging rights what is the point if they don't allow these values unless the conditions are perfect? Oh that's right...marketing! :)

[@garywurz61]

Would not trade my 99 7.3 awesome truck

[@dustinmeek4032]

Imagine a deleted tuned 7.2. Hp and torque number are about to skyrocket.

[@markosborn5713]

It would be great if you could contact the Oil Geek to discuss oil and lifters?

[@lakaja6565]

Something needs to be done about the EPA man.

[@kylezeman2177]

Only reason i got rid of my 01 5.9 with the nv 5600 trans is because the rest of the truck rusted off of a good driveline setup.

[@JonBecker81]

Whatever happened to those rumors that Cummins was going to build an I6 turbo gas engine? That would have been interesting.

[@greggc8088]

I've never known Chrysler to jump out ahead of emission requirements and I kind of like that about them.

[@GettysGarage]

lol this very true

[@6789olds]

The new 6.7 will come out first then in a year or 2 then you will get a 7.2 HO Cummins option.

[@rigon63]

Its still a 6.7, they havent said much of anything about it because the launch got delayed by about 7 months

[@dillonh321]

It’s going to be a revised 6.7l Cummins still. But a 7.2l is under development and maybe we will see it in the all new Ram HD in 2028.

[@stevenvonsancho]

Whats the emissions standards on a predator drone?

[@bobyp10]

Can't they meet emissions compliance and still better fuel mileage. My mind tells me that higher fuel mileage equals lower emissions, or am I off base on this one.

[@stevenpeterson7234]

Its gonna be a CNG engine. Thats what the EPA diesels to go to!!

[@gabrielfelixmunoz739]

I feel like there's a dumpster fire going on inside ram and stellantis rn, at least that's the impression I get from a lot of vids on the YT.

[@GettysGarage]

I think sales on the new Ram 1500 hurricanes are tanking and there are some worried folks I would agree. I also find it just odd that we don't know what is happening under the hood with these 2025 HD trucks either.

[@gabrielfelixmunoz739]

@ exactly and the suspense and the unknown is not healthy lol the PW is my dream truck

[@dillonh321]

@@GettysGarage I feel like we pretty much know what Diesel will be under the hood due to insiders but the wild thing is there isn’t any information of what gas engine will be under the hood.

[@NathanCurrier-pf7bu]

So what there doing is recall everything till it ends