BREAKING. NOT Canceled. Good Omens Season 3 NEWS

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[@aAureliusSsSS]

I've been stressing all day "good omens is so much more than Neil" is a very powerful line and one we all need to follow to move on. Difficult time to be a good omens fan

[@Sendarya]

🫂

[@SillyiswhereXanagoes]

@@Sendarya WAIT WHAT WHAT DID HE DO I LOVE GO AND CORALINE NOOOO

[@erykaton170]

@@SillyiswhereXanagoes He has been accused of SA by 4 or 5 women.

[@SillyiswhereXanagoes]

@@erykaton170 oh god that’s horrible

[@erykaton170]

@@SillyiswhereXanagoes I know. The NZ police are investigating at least one of the accusations, and he denies everything.

[@clarestubbs9303]

I am praying for season 3 right now. I understand why but I NEED it. ❤

[@Hollowwsstory]

I literally just discovered the show and binged it out over this last weekend. Now im hearing S3 is up in the air? After just being left on that cliffhanger? Brutal!

[@Sendarya]

very!

[@romancandles7346]

me too 😭😭 like i watched all the episodes in like 3 days and now im reading the book. this is so upsetting to hear

[@lisa_wistfulone7957]

Don’t give up hope! It’s encouraging that new people are still discovering the show and loving it. That may help motivate Amazon to see the show as still popular (ie marketable) and work out a way to continue it.

[@Nick__0000-0]

​@@romancandles7346 I get it, when I discovered Good Omens last year, it automatically became my favorite series, and it made me a little happier the rest of the year. I will be very sad if they cancel the last season after such a sad ending.

[@tanks7774]

My heart is heavy, but I have hope. And despite it all, I'm grateful for the victims for speaking out

[@maizie9454]

i dont care if they dump gaiman. as long as they keep good omens. and you can have both.

[@Sendarya]

Yup, this is pretty much where I am at.

[@vampirelove75]

Reports are coming out that he’s offered to step away. So hopefully they can move on without him.

[@DarlaTri]

Sending a hug to everyone! I truly don't know what I would do without this fandom.

[@Sendarya]

🫂🫂🫂 Hugs all around

[@lulu480]

I didn’t really know whether or not Neil “owned” the scripts. But it sounds like Amazon actually buys them from him I don’t think I’ve ever been so afraid GO wouldn’t happen when these allegations surfaced. I’ve been disappointed when series have been canceled but never this. It has created quite an existential crisis.

[@Sendarya]

It really is the most invested I've been in the future of a TV series, so I get it! ❤️

[@flippetskater]

When other shows are canceled, it's generally because there just wasn't enough audience for them. But if this does, it will be out of fear/a sense of 'punishment'. Only, the people actually getting punished would be the fans, and everyone else working on the show. The 'target' of the punishment would barely feel a thing. It would feel terribly unfair, because it would be.

[@ericamacs3875]

@@flippetskater exactly this! I've seen people mention OFMD, and it's not comparable. It might be with Dead Boy Detectives but I doubt it, those viewing figures are bad. (And I loved DBD, it's a shame)

[@Lex-cp5eg]

@@flippetskaterOr it’ll be out of concern for the safety and wellbeing of the other people working on the show. As well as concern for the reputation of the production companies and other creatives involved. If they are telling the truth about pausing, then they are trying to work something out that will be fairer to everyone. If Gaiman gets in the way of that, that’s on him.

[@victoriar4637]

It's been paused, not cancelled.

[@Sendarya]

Exactly!

[@LisaBeta-42]

Doctor Who got paused from 1989 until 1996 but didn_t take off until another wait until 2005... So - let's WAIT and see

[@Temptation666]

@@LisaBeta-42 tager det så lang tid håber jeg Neil skriver en bog for ellers kommer jeg nok ikke til at opleve serie 3 (Sorry i was talking with my son in the phone and accidentally wrote in Danish too. Dohh) Translation: If it takes that long then i hope Neil will write the book because otherwise i might never see the ending

[@catfancier270]

If there’s a pause like some of the pauses Doctor Who has had, I could be dead before it airs. Some of us aren’t as young as other fans.

[@fala.sylwianna]

For a fews seconds I thought it was cancelled and my heart broke. Then I noticed NOT. I'm still worried, though.

[@Sendarya]

🫂

[@Beetle678]

I'm mad and upset. My heart goes out to all the victims and I wish Neil never did what he did. Good Omens means so much to me and this has teared a rift right through it. I don't care if they sack Neil-in fact they should- I just need Good omens to continue aswell as justice being brought to the victims

[@sahrawakehouse8959]

Very well said. We as a collective fandom need to also remember that "Good Omens" isn't just Neil Gaiman's story, it is also Late Sir Terry Pratchett's story too. So if someone else, say, Rob Wilkins, has to step in to complete the story, I'll be fine with that. I fully understand why "Good Omens" season 3 is being postponed for the time being. I have faith that "Good Omens" season 3 will be made and eventually put on Amazon Prime. The reason is that Season 3 will be/is the final season of "Good Omens". This means that Amazon can make the third and final season of "Good Omens" and move on to something new. Also to quote our favorite angel, "nothing lasts forever". This is important to keep in mind with everything that's going on right now. This whole Neil Gaiman issue/situation won't last forever. Someday we'll move on from/come to terms with this moment in our own ways. Until then, please remember that "Good Omens" is the brainchild of both Sir Terry Pratchett AND Neil Gaiman. If some of you can't watch/read "Good Omens" because of the allegations against Neil Gaiman, then watch/read "Good Omens" for Sir Terry Pratchett instead. Especially since Terry wrote at least 75% of the book and/or the book's ending (I can't remember if Terry said that he wrote 75% of the book or 75% of the book's ending). Either way, the book has two authors and it would be unfair to forsake "Good Omens" completely because of the possiblely true (I don't know for sure) illegal misconduct of one of the authors in question.

[@BirgitPa]

Thank you for this neutral and speculation-free look at the sparse news, which sets the record straight! ❤

[@ajasverepova5028]

I am still reeling from everything that is happening. I am really scared that they could cancel Season 3. I have never been invested in a show this much and it makes me slightly mad. I can only keep hoping.

[@Nikki-oe7gr]

Thank you for your uplifting approach to this news. I dearly hope they find a way to move forward with Good Omens that honors the original intent of the story. GO is one of the best shows I've watched in my more than a half century of life, so it would be crushing to have it end with season 2's devastating ending. We need our dear Crowley and Aziraphale back together.

[@Sendarya]

Agreed, it would be devastating.

[@tracybartels7535]

I've known 24 hours and I have hope. There was no way things were going to go stress-free, but I think we could have the best possible option (IMO), someone close taking over from NG and it proceeding. This is what I've wanted for months. Everything is most definitely crossed for all of us (not just the fans, the whole community). Nice report, and thanks for the rumour warnings

[@susanne5803]

The problem with replacing Neil Gaiman is that his writing is the link to Terry Pratchett. I really hope they can use Gaiman's ideas to finish Good Omens in the spirit Terry Pratchett would have wanted. Otherwise: Let justice be served. Still waiting for more and especially more reliable information on that though ... Thank you!

[@Sendarya]

Well, the scripts are still written by Gaiman, so that shouldn't be a problem. Assuming he is replaced, it would be as show runner and producer, I would think. They won't be paying anyone else to rewrite what they already paid Gaiman to write.

[@Lex-cp5eg]

I don’t know what more reliable information you want than the victims’ own words. Plus the recorded phone calls/voice notes from Gaiman. Plus the email exchanges. And the NDAs he had them sign. And the money he both paid them directly to mitigate the impact of his actions and offered to (but didn’t) pay as a form of restitution to sexual violence organizations.

[@01.n0t-u]

I found the news on tiktok.. The way my smile faded 😭

[@Sendarya]

🫂

[@TheArchiver.]

A fellow good omens and baldurs gate enjoyer

[@anneb799]

From what i last read Neil already has offered to step back from GO3. So fingers crossed that it´ll be enough to get production rolling.

[@catfancier270]

Hard to wrap my head around the idea that Gaiman could be horrible in his personal life but create things that touch so many people in a positive way. Supposedly Picasso was terrible, but we still celebrate his art. Hope we get to see Season 3 of Good Omens sometime in the next three years.

[@barbarabenoit3667]

How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of her who brings... ...bad news in a way that is so comforting and uplifting. Thank you Sendarya. I am so glad you and your channel exist. In a way I also am also glad that the allegations that came to light are not glossed over. I am glad the victims spoke out about Neil Gaimans invasive behaviour and that they are heard and believed - and that there are consequences for a person who coerced and hurt other humans, who were in a position of dependence. I hope the women that were hurt heal. I hope so very much that there will be a way that all the others who are part of good omens and worked so hard to give us this wonderful work of art will be able to continue without Neil Gaiman. Good Omens is so much more. And even if it may be paused for a long time. This fandom is not a fandom of Neil Gaiman. - Yes, I admit, I am glad, that Neil honored the wish of Terry Pratchet and worked to bring the story to life. Both can be true: I hate what he did to the women who spoke out and I am glad that he did start the Good Omens project. - That said I am not a fan of Neil Gaiman I am a fan of the wonderful characters of good omens and the actors that brought them to life and the whimsical details in the set and the costumes. I love the music of Good Omens. I am a fan of the questions other fans ask, the deeper meaning they find in the story, the knowledge they share. I am a fan of fanfiction that spins tales about the love Aziraphale and Crowley represent. I am a fan of the openness, creativity, vulnerability and humanity that fans in this fandom show each other. No one can take that away from me.

[@Sendarya]

Well said!!! 👏 And thank you ❤️

[@PatriseHenkel]

Thank you. “Good Omens is so much more than Neil.”

[@sheebeebug]

Thank you so much for these updates and reassurances that you give! Im so grateful for your videos and activities you and everyone behind your channel and discord do! You help me feel connected to the fandom ❤❤❤

[@theforgetfulalchemist]

I SCREAMED when I heard this!

[@Sendarya]

🫂

[@Snoopydoop]

Good Omens isn't just Neil Gaiman. For goodness sake remember the late great Sir Terry Pratchett

[@Sendarya]

Yes, exactly!

[@Lex-cp5eg]

The late great Sir Terry Pratchett may not want a serial rapist to continue his legacy. He may not want an exploiter of vulnerable people to use his (Terry’s) work and reputation to further prop up his own ego and platform. I can’t say for certain what he would want, but we owe it to him to at least consider that he wouldn’t want his work to be part of a former collaborator’s attempts to steamroll credible allegations, sending a message of indifference to SA victims. When I think of Sir Terry Pratchett’s values and life’s work, I have to think that he would take very seriously the possibility that some vulnerable persons would end up subjected to the treatment that many fans of Gaiman’s work have related to us over the past few months. And that he would want to stop that from happening.

[@BirgitPa]

By the way: Nice thumbnail, especially the angry Crowley. Let’s show everyone our teeth who wants to steel us S3! 😬

[@Sendarya]

Glad you liked it 😊

[@BirgitPa]

Everyone will have to make sacrifices to make season three possible. Although I have to admit that I personally still find it difficult to send Neil into the desert. “We” use his scripts (which are very likely finished by now), but don't let him be part of it. I very much hope that Amazon will find a fair solution for all involved and both camps of fans.

[@Sendarya]

A fair solution would be ideal! His ego may get in the way. What's best for the show and what's best for Neil May no longer be the same thing, and that's understandably probably hard to reconcile.

[@BirgitPa]

@@Sendarya That is very true! But as a writer and creator myself, I know how hard it is to give away your heart and soul without getting the credit for it - and without completing the whole story on your own that started 35 years ago. That is a lifework! Believe me that has nothing to do with the ego. But please don't misunderstand, this is not meant to be a criticism. It is probably the only possible way to save S3. My objection was merely intended to raise general awareness with regard to intellectual property.

[@mothturtle7897]

Call me cruel but I think he deserves it. The insult of using his scripts and IP but cutting him out of the series and fandom completely is absolutely nothing compared to the pain he's cause to multiple women (and likely many, many more than the 5 that have come forward). I hope it's something that Amazon and BBC studios can reasonably do. In an ideal world, Neil would realise the error of his ways, step down willingly and donate any money he's already made to RAINN but I think the likelihood of that is pretty much zero.

[@BirgitPa]

@@mothturtle7897 I understand you, but I see it from a different point of view. But the discussion of whether someone is guilty or innocent is not something we should be having under Sendarya's video.

[@mothturtle7897]

​@@BirgitPaI mean, I don't think there's much discussion to be had on that topic, so I guess we can agree on that at least.

[@Sallyfaceoff]

I hope they'll find a good way to make season 3 happen. Nobody needed this drama but all the people involved and the fandom need the new season. It would be a waste to let everything collapse right now. Sending love to all in the fandom ❤️

[@antonellamR2D2]

Sending love to all of the fandom

[@nancyrogan8985]

Thank you, Sendarya, for bringing evidentiary and salient points to support optimism rather than despair. It's so easy, when one is so attached to the outcome, to worry; we all want to see what happens to our ineffable duo, according to the creatives who carry the burden of such high expectations from us all. Your calm voice of reason, Sendarya, really helps to settle the nerves. Please keep us apprised of any developments and if there's anything we, as ardent fans, can do to encourage the Amazon powers that be to honour their commitment to this brilliant project. 😇😎💜

[@Ghost_461]

Still holding out hope! This fandom is, as you said, so much more than Neil.

[@theonlylunchbox]

Thank you for mostly positive message. While I'm dealing with what I feel like is the worst news. I just want this all to go away and go back to how it was before. It sucks to look at someone you've admired for so long and think how is this possible? And why is the bar so low that we just want people to not be accused of this.

[@arthurhidden9546]

I'll just imagine Crowley messing with us. Little nuisances to call Aziraphale down to earth.

[@Temptation666]

I hate this. Really really hate this

[@Temptation666]

I'm going to bed 😭😭

[@Sendarya]

It is very frustrating, I understand. 🫂

[@Temptation666]

@@Sendarya 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 *cry's on your shoulder*

[@Rubybonez]

I want season 3, but in all honesty, I hope Neil gets replaced. Michael and David are good enough at acting and everyone else is good at production that I think we don't really need Neil to be there.

[@isabelpineiroalfaro7915]

I'm sooo sad, I understand why but I'm soo sad 😭😭😭

[@Temptation666]

I don't. Innocent until proven guilty

[@sirybmits4541]

"It's different, when it's someone you know, eh?" as Crowley said

[@isabelpineiroalfaro7915]

It's not for Neal that I'm sad. Is for pause 😥

[@isabelpineiroalfaro7915]

He is responsible for his actions

[@sirybmits4541]

@isabelpineiroalfaro7915 yeah, I mean it's the show that is dear for you, not Neil

[@victoriar4637]

This is a great video, thank you Sendarya and friends!! 💛💚🌟⭐🧡💖💖

[@Elkendrien]

I’m hoping so so hard that S3 gets made. There is so much love in that show by so many different people. I’d be devastated if the story wouldn’t get resolved. I like that the comment section here seems so positive and hopeful. I’ve seen a lot of talk over on tumblr, shaming people for still hoping for S3, which is ridiculous. Loving the show has nothing to do with condoning Neil’s actions. Like you said, the show is so much more than just Gaiman.

[@ericamacs3875]

That's what worries me. A vocal section of fans, I've seen them on instagram, shaming other fans. If they lobby and threaten Amazon, they could easily screw it all up. No company wants the threat of a massive social media backlash if they go ahead. Also those kind of fans would go to tabloid journalists etc.

[@Nick__0000-0]

I agree, this has become my favorite series, it's really important to me, I'll feel bad whenever I rewatch season 1 and 2 if the last season gets cancelled.

[@esteriistiel331]

This was incredibly reassuring, thank you. Sending to one of my good omens friends

[@Sendarya]

I'm glad. ❤️

[@notasleepmymindisalive]

lets manifest and be hopeful yall 😩🙏🙏

[@roedoktober]

I can give my promise to Amazon that I will personally watch season 3 over and over to make up for the people who won't watch it for either reason. Really hope we get season 3 though!

[@AziraleyLove]

lol same

[@dandelion_16]

Thank you for keeping an eye out and collecting news and spreading it so calmly.

[@erykaton170]

One thing that the GO fandom has an abundance of is hope. It has brought us this far, it will take us through this impasse.

[@BoldAndBright]

Thanks for these news bytes, I'm not on a lot of social media so they're very helpful. (Even though the news itself isnt fabulous)

[@elizabethmcglothlin5406]

This is Pratchett, too.

[@Sendarya]

Precisely

[@marzettik]

There's a lot of great people attached to the production. I have faith that they'll get the job done. Plus, I can't imagine Michael Sheen and David Tennant would deprived themselves of the fans of our 3rd and finale season. ❤

[@Sendarya]

I agree, I think both of them would be devastated if Season 3 was canceled!

[@fanpet3912]

I've really been trying to just think about the victims in this situation and not how the allegations will affect the show. But good omens is so near and dear to my heart and the thought that we will be left with only the devastating season 2 ending is so horrible to me. I desperately hope the show goes on, the allegations are taken seriously, and neil faces real consequences.

[@Sendarya]

We should think of the victims, but I Sunny think it's wrong to consider the thousands of people that a cancelation would also negatively impact. Life is not so black and white, one or the other. We can be concerned about both

[@ericamacs3875]

But this doesn't affect the victims, not really. Gaiman has been paid already. If he's removed as showrunner he won't benefit anymore than he would with cancellation, both situations require a buy out of his contract. The only thing that matters for the victims really is their business, and will no doubt be a legal or police process.

[@MtMomDesigns]

Thanks for posting this, Sendarya. It’s good for us to keep cool right now, until we know more. And keep our eye on “reputable outlets”.

[@ebkalasi]

Thank you for the update! I’m praying we get Season 3! Btw, my comments on your previous video kept disappearing, so I don’t know if you know that I posted my GO fanfiction that references The Princess Bride on AO3. The title is “No One Hurts My Angel” by DaLiza.

[@Sendarya]

Oh no! I have no idea why YT sometimes eats comments. I'll check out you fanfic, I'm excited, ty!!

[@lexyyy311]

Thanks for the insight. I always try to remember that any project (movie, show, play, exc.) is made up of so many people. That fact got me interested in a career in movie production. And Good Omens has really helped that interest as well. Hopefully we can get through these few setbacks :)

[@Sendarya]

Well said!

[@jeanninecalder3652]

🤞🏼😇😎❤️‍🔥 … please please please … the fans really need a happy ending for our guys. 🥰

[@jaywallcreeper]

I have just discovered Good Omens, completely by accident. And it amazed me. I've watched hundreds of movies but it is the first time I saw true feelings, as if extracted from real life. The acting was just out of this world for me :)

[@Sendarya]

Welcome to the fandom! Yes, the acting is heart wrenchingly good.

[@oleksandrbyelyenko435]

Who would cancel it? We all need season 3

[@Sendarya]

It's all down to money, right? If it won't cause to uch controversy, and they think it will make money (including on merch), they will go forward with it.

[@WizMoz]

@@SendaryaI guess I need to buy some more merch then😂

[@sassymusic77]

Thanks for this - tumblr's been absolutely bonkers today. What I'd like to say to everyone is this - this fandom goes far beyond the show or book, far beyond Neil. Sir Terry would love it. Neil might not so much at this point. Point is, if we don't get our final season on screen, there's roughly a bajillion endings over on AO3. A lot of them include the cottage in the South Downs. There's one called Don't Fall Away From Me that could really be the entire plot for Season 3. It's a hell of a read, and very dark, but totally worth it. And there are fluffier versions of the end out there if you don't want the angst. We will be okay. We just need to reach out to each other, and remember to do so with love.

[@ZOEYNL]

I was about to say, lol. My day has been so bad and the show being canceled would of killed me. We are getting a season 3, ofc. (I hope, at least)

[@chelli6555]

I so hope they replace Neil Gaiman quickly, and I also hope Rob Wilkins will have a say on the matter. I mean he has known Terry Pratchett for over 20 years.

[@Sendarya]

Agreed, Rob should have a big say in whatever happens.

[@izabellemelocruz3850]

First,I would like to say that I'm really greatful for this chanel to exist,to be gathering us fans here and talking about the show; And second, Good Omens its just perfect,so I'm trying to be positive about it, believe they won't give up on this amazing work. I will be heartbroken if things don't work out😢😞

[@Sendarya]

Whatever happens, the fandom will get through it together. ❤️

[@zenmothermagick]

Neil may be stepping away. Whatever is needed to complete S3

[@triplea128]

thank you i'm relieved...

[@ninab9969]

Thank you for, as always, talking sense.

[@Sendarya]

I do try!

[@germanyhamburger5552]

At first I thought it was about the actor from Aziraphale, fortunately not. Much strength to the victims.

[@acompleterandom7360]

Oh I'm SO glad to hear this seasons script is written already, I feared that the story would take another route than initially planned (I know Neil Gaiman shouldn't be supported but I just don't like authors being changed in the middle of a story with all kinds of thoughts going into the story which aren't written down yet).

[@acompleterandom7360]

Or i guess not "shouldn't be supported" because I don't know if the allegations have been proven right but you get what I mean

[@UncooperativeCat]

​@@acompleterandom7360The things Gaiman admitted to are pretty damning by themselves.

[@Sendarya]

I understand what you mean. I agree, it's more difficult to change writers mid stride than say, directors.

[@acompleterandom7360]

@@UncooperativeCat Maybe, there have been so many allegations against people, especially youtubers I cared about lately that I don't care to keep up with most of them anymore

[@martas.2095]

I have just learned about it. Omg.

[@kd1inoly693]

Thank you thank you thank you

[@vampirelove75]

Gaiman has already said he will step away from production and honestly that’s the only way this moves forward.

[@ayadrevis5136]

Let's buy all of their merch and write on the review section that WE NEED A SEASON 3

[@yassermelonvelociraptor4839]

Nooooohe wrote the Graveyard book?!

[@Sendarya]

Yep, I know. :( It is one of the few other Gaiman books I've also read and really enjoyed.

[@Randomme-kb1ww]

Aww man I liked dead boy detectives:c

[@redvixen9288]

I wonder what will happen to The Sandman? I was very much looking forward to seeing a second season.

[@Sendarya]

As far as I'm aware, production of season 2 is still ongoing. Since filming began in February of this year, they are likely wrapped or nearly so, perhaps doing some reshoots. This far in to production, I cannot imagine they will cancel one of their tentpole IP's when it's so near completion. What it means for a potential season 3 will likely depend on the season 2 reception.

[@7lovessomeseries]

Lo voy a tomar desde un punto positivo (o tal vez no tanto). Si el show está en Pausa significa que Crowley estará mas tiempo separado de Aziraphale. Ésto parece un plan de Metraton. 🤔😅

[@marywilson1709]

Thank you for this

[@bmas44]

So scared but so torn 😭😭😭

[@netherfield2000]

I've been so upset about this the last few days. It's been all doom and gloom on not so reputable information sites.

[@marishkaspirit]

I don't care who is in production. All i want is an ending to this story, that's all. I want them go to off into the sunset togheter. Nothing else

[@flippetskater]

Hm. I had a response to another post that seems to have been deleted for some reason. Oh well - I'm going to repost something I posted in a different forum, but it was in response to the same thing - that some folks feel that they need to "burn" all of NG's work, "punish him" for his behavior, etc. I responded to part of another post, which said this: "Reducing these issues to simple black and white moral equations kind of ignores the larger fallout that we tend not to think about." (They were speaking about all the cast/crew etc who would be without this job, some of whom are very vocal allies, and mentioned that "cancelling the entire project because of him says "only the behaviour of this one guy matters". It actually puts more importance on NG than I think we really want to give him.) I responded: Exactly. It also ignores the entire concept of separating the art from the artist. Which, if you have studied art or literature at all, you know that you basically HAVE to do. Quite a bit of art in the history of the world has been made by not-so-great people. If you want to destroy anything that's been made by a fallible human being, well - good luck with that. There's also the concept brought up by that meme that was popular a while ago - "The worst person you know just made a really good point". And if you stop to think about what that really means - it means that if we were to categorically eliminate/destroy any good thing just because it was made by a bad person - you'd be destroying a lot of actually good, and even necessary things, to what - prove some kind of point? And in fact, sometimes stoking the fire of outrage is for that precise purpose - to flush the baby with the bathwater, because some folks also don't like the baby. (And I definitely think there's some of that going on here.) My point - Neil should not profit *from his abuse*. But that's not actually the question here. We're dealing with art that is _separate_ from whatever abuse he might have perpetrated. And that needs to be VERY clear. Amazon has already paid for the scripts, I believe. That means that Amazon owns them, not Neil. They can finish making the art, while removing Neil from any further direct influence over, or even perhaps profit from, the finished product. (There's some iffiness to the validity of that as well, given previous arguments, but let's just say. They could do that, to pacify people.) I truly don't believe that everyone else - the people working on the production, and the fans OF THE STORY especially, should be punished, for something that THEY did not do. tl;dr, Separate the art from the artist. The art isn't about the wrongdoing. They are separate, and CAN be dealt with separately. (Edit - I just now saw that NG has stepped down from the production. That's great, and exactly what should happen, at this point.)

[@Sendarya]

No idea why your comments are deleted. YT sometimes just vanishes them. They rarely even show up in "held for review". I'm glad you were able to repost your comment, thought! Well said!

[@flippetskater]

@@Sendarya I think the first time I tried to post, I used a different, more typical word for "not-so-nice/bad" person. Rhymes with pretty. The algorithm probably got offended. The post I was originally responding to also seems to have been edited somewhat - so between those things, something zapped it, I guess.

[@WilkWolny]

Zatrzymanie prac jest, w dłuższej perspektywie, tym samym czym anulowanie. Było miło ale to koniec.

[@terintiaflavius3349]

Why cancel/pause over allegations?

[@Sendarya]

I don't know, we'd have to ask Amazon their thinking. Something to do with money, I suspect.

[@janepol5217]

I really hope the show doesn't get cancelled, we need this happy ending for Crowley and Aziraphale. Before I say anything else I should perhaps add that I'm a woman myself and had faced a mild harassment, so I know how awful that can be and noone should go through that. I'm also a Ukrainian, so I know a thing or two about abandoning the artists you once liked because they chose to be on the wrong side of history. (And guess what - some companies chose to remain in russia yet I don't see an angry mob demanding to cancel them. Do I buy the products of those companies - not if I can help it. Do I want everyone to do the same - no, it's a personal choice) With that being said...and I know this is not a popular opinion but I'm so done with today's cancel culture. I mean, people should be punished for any crimes they committed and being famous doesn't make you immune to that. But that's what court is for. Anyone as an individual can make a choice whether to engage with the accused person. However, I don't think it should be forced on society as a whole. Too many famous artists, writers and scientists of the past weren't perfect and had done some horrible stuff. Do we get to cancel them as well? Do we want to rob ourselves of like 90% of our cultural and scientific background because people who created it were complex, not always decent or simply followed the societal norms of their era (which we now consider outdated, chauvinistic and non-inclusive)? I don't. Even though I avoided certain artists when I was a teen and had more black-and-white thinking which is normal for teens. Would people behave the same way towards their neighbour or a family member who did the same thing? They might choose to cast him out their own social circle but I doubt they'd try to force their opinion on the whole street/district/town or all family members. What I'm trying to say here is perhaps we should not perceive the author and their creation as one inseparable whole. Perhaps we should focus more on ourselves and our own effort to make the world a better place. And I know many would disagree with me on this but cancelling someone doesn't make much difference even in the long run because you can't control behaviour of others. People will still be people, with all their flaws, imperfections and lack of desire to adhere to certain things. Prisons are still full of criminals despite them knowing they can get caught and spend some years locked away. Again, that's just my personal opinion, not a fact. I'm fine with the notion that most people would disagree with me.

[@edj8008]

They should good give the series to a young comedian that has read a lot of discworld.

[@FrostedCanid]

Ok but imagine Taika Waititi running S3 👀

[@adeledeveaux8238]

OH MY FUCKING GODDDD I NEED THIS INJECTED INTO MY VEINS

[@Sendarya]

That could work.....

[@adeledeveaux8238]

sendarya, i love you to the moon and back. you always know just what to say. you have no clue how much you mean to this fandom. i just hope they fire gaiman and move on. good omens has got me through too much. i'm not giving up on it now.

[@Sendarya]

Thank you, and 🫂

[@Nick__0000-0]

Well, ever since I heard about the accusations against Neil Gaiman, I knew something like this could happen with Good Omens 3, and that's really sad for me, not only because I thought Neil Gaiman was a really good person and trusted him, but also because Good Omens had become my comfort series in 2023. In 2023 was when I discovered Good omens, and I was feeling a bit down last year, Good omens made me a little happier the rest of the year and that was important to me, but now this happened, and well... I'm disappointed with Neil Gaiman and very sad about Good Omens. *(sorry if there are some spelling mistakes, I used Google translate)*

[@klairikrali7025]

Paused until when? 2030?I am an old woman, I will be dead by then!I need season 3 soon and those two together for eternity (azi and crowley)

[@Sendarya]

Hopefully not too long! Whatever negotiations are going on, we are all crossing fingers that they figure it out and get production going again, ASAP!

[@klairikrali7025]

@@Sendarya I hope so

[@ElwoodPDowd1970]

I can't think of one show that has been "paused" by any streamer and then later "unpaused." If there's even a remote possibility of it getting renewed they say nothing. Seems to me this is corporate-speak for cancelled, just that they want to kick the can further down the road so more people forget about it before the inevitable cancellation.

[@Sendarya]

During covid, there were quite a few. If it was cancelled, why leak the ongoing negotiations? They would simply say cancelled. Not to say that won't still happen, it might, but it makes no sense to jerk fans around like that. It would not build the good will of viewers.

[@Ixarus6713]

Oh my lord. Oh wait- sorry. 🤫 Oh my... my.. wow. .. Has anyone released a statement on this yet? Tennant? Sheen? I hope not until the whole deal is out. I REALLY hope this isn't true. Because the show is one of the best I've ever seen, and we all know Tennant and Sheen wouldn't be there if Neil remained after this. (If he's found guilty at least) Innocent until proven guilty. Come on Neil, please don't have let us down. ⬇️🤚➡️👋

[@Sendarya]

Nope, nothing official at all. It's possible Michael and David and other staff are contractually obligated to say nothing while the series remains in production.

[@sadewolfkitten]

Oh, I missed the news about the 'middle episode'. Anybody got more info on that?

[@Sendarya]

the middle episode?

[@flusel4949]

It’s weird, but I actually have pretty high hopes! I’m not that worried the show may be cancelled, like you said, Amazon invested way too much money into this to cancel it completely at this point. If they stop now they WILL make a big loss. I think they now just try to figure out which path will guarantee them more money: keeping Neil and (mostly) staying on the track they planned, thus loosing potential viewers to piracy or to drop the show completely (both equally devastating for them, if those numbers are too high). Or letting Neil go as a showrunner and either letting Rob Wilkinson take over completely or getting someone else to take his place. And the scripts are (mostly) finished. Neil has talked to people (certainly Rob) about what he and Terry envisioned for the finale. So the vision is probably mostly known, at least to the people that matter in that regard. And if the third season is still great without Neil (which isn’t that unlikely knowing which actors we have to work with the scripts and since the rest of the crew mostly stays the same) then there is a good chance that many of the fans who originally said they don’t want to watch Good Omens without Neil as showrunner would reconsider watching it. Also Neil has also said - if I remember correctly- that for season 2 he hasn’t been on set for that much anyway and that he misses being just an author. So yeah, I think it’s quite possible that Neil would be replaced and that the show will still be great after that.

[@Sendarya]

Neil did indeed say he misses being just an author, and that Good Omens would be his last venture into show-running. Agreed :)

[@Aceofspades2006]

No wtf dead boy detective whyyyy

[@blackletter2591]

I don't like the idea of the show being run by some 'Gabriel' type from Hollywood.

[@ravenclaw1848]

Honestly people need to get over it.. more than half of Hollywood is into some seriously messed up stuff, and we already went through this BS with Johnny Depp and then everyone was looking pretty stupid after

[@Sendarya]

Although it's clear to me (and the jury) that Heard was the abuser in that relationship, we can't dismiss every claim that ever happens afterwards because of it. Each needs to be evaluated on their own merits. Where you land on this one is, of course, up to you.

[@flippetskater]

Yeah, the scripts are done, so - boot Neil at this point, what do I care? I'm here for the story he wrote, not for him, so I really don't care if he's "showrunner" at this point. It'll do just fine without him. Keep Rob, and all will be well, I'm sure. You listening, Amazon? (That said, I wanted to pop it on again tonight, and - ok, I have a new TV I'm not totally familiar with, but that shouldn't matter....I searched for GO, and only S2 came up. I REALLY hope that's some weird kind of user error, because....if they've pulled S1, that's not a *good* sign. Hopefully someone else will tell me that it's there and I'm blind....)

[@Sendarya]

Season 1 is still showing up for me. Amazon just had the strangest search functions! But I agree, we didn't need him as show runner, once he's delivered the scripts.

[@ericamacs3875]

I think it's a shame S2 wasn't shown on the BBC as that would have extended the reach. I have friends who loved S1 on the BBC, but still haven't seen S2. No idea what went wrong there. I just hope Gaiman himself isn't being difficult? He could be threatening over the contract etc. But hopefully Amazon have something about not bringing them into disrepute so they have a lever to break his contract. I've said since the news that they need to bring in John Finnemore. He's a great and well respected comedy writer and IMO made S2 better. (BTW it's pronounced John Finn E More. ) He had his own comedy series on BBC Radio 4. I do feel upset and hope that it's resolved soon. I'm also annoyed that I'm seeing some fandom voices saying it should be cancelled. Really stop spoiling other people's lives. You're not the morality police, and you don't know these people. There are many of us who see is as one of the things in our lives to keep us going. And there are hundreds of cast and crew needing the work.

[@-sinuna-6710]

[@juliapatricia6223]

Some articles say “ paused” and some say “ suspended”. Neil owns the story. Corporations like Amazon will not want scandal associated to a project. Hard to move forward with Neil owning the rights. Beloved actors are employees and not producers or directors. It is very hard to believe Neil would transfer or give up his rights. Amazon would not want to have every article to end with a quote about the scandal or actors asked frank questions in every interview attempting to promote it. I think Neil is more than show runner. David and Michael are actors. They will likely accept other projects and not leave schedules unbooked, understandably. They want to work so if the pause is too long, they will move on to other opportunities. Time will tell. There is a strong fanbase but also strong opposition and many who will not view Series 3. Amazon knows this. Itis really very sad. There are legal contracts involved. Historically networks have been known to cancel series despite actor contracts. They usually have clause’s reserving the right to cancel at will. It would be great to have a true ending to Good Omens and not an unfinished one. Time will tell.

[@Sendarya]

Deadline is the original source. Any other wording is just people trying to rephrase from the original article. As far as I'm aware, no other official news source has any further information. Like me, they are simply reporting what Deadline said. I didn't know how strong the opposition is, as I stay away from most social media. As you say, time will tell.

[@sassymusic77]

Thing is, while there's a very, um, *vocal* minority out there, my experience with the fandom has led me to believe that more people want to see this last season made than don't. Problem is, a lot of them have trouble voicing their opinions in the face of anon hate on spaces like tumblr. So they go quiet, and that's sad. I'm all for this show finishing up, preferably with Neil fired from any on set responsibilities.

[@JosephSmith-ex7du]

It's great "Good Omens" is going forward, I hope the same occurs for "Sandman". Mr. Gaiman is being vilified for being a heterosexual male with a strong libido who is somewhat a libertine with a kink. It seems clear that some fans of his work want to believe Mr. Gaiman is a eunuch who lives like a monk. Well he's not. Turns out he's a skirt chaser (that's not a crime). Furthermore, the two women who made the initial accusations could have left his company at anytime (one even pursued him). The women were not drugged like Roman Polanski did to Samantha Geimer, or restrained and prevented from leaving like what was done to Michelle Knight, Amanda Berry, and Gina DeJesus by Ariel Castro in Cleveland, so there's no crime. Again, the women could have said "No, not doing that." But they didn't, and to now say he held some power over them is to say that those women are weak-minded fools who don't have any agency over their own lives (which I don't believe).

[@Sendarya]

If only people understood the word "coercion". So, men and women who stay in abusive relationships are weak? That seems like some pretty serious victim blaming. The charges are alleged, and will remain so, and people will have to make up their own minds about them. Hopefully with some nuance and depth of understanding, fueled by research and keeping an open mind that their pre-existing idea may indeed be incorrect.

[@JosephSmith-ex7du]

@@Sendarya wrote: "Hopefully with some nuance and depth of understanding, fueled by research and keeping an open mind that their pre-existing idea may indeed be incorrect." You forgot one very important aspect that will impact any "nuance and depth of understanding," that is THE FACTS, and the facts as they stand indicate Mr. Gaiman did not force those women to participate. I'm going to repeat because you're ignoring the facts, both of those women were not drugged or held against their will. In addition, their levels of trauma forced them to run right out and wait several years before making a police report (which the authorities found doesn't have merit). Sandarya also wrote: "So, men and women who stay in abusive relationships are weak? That seems like some pretty serious victim blaming." Yes, they are. There are plenty of organizations (both government and non-government) where a sexual abuse victim can go for help. None of the women involved seemed to be stupid, so for NOT TAKING AGENCY over their lives, they prove themselves to be weak-minded fools. Sendarya also wrote: "f only people understood the word 'coercion'". That would include you, for the definition of coercion is "the practice of persuading someone to do something by using force or threats.". The women weren't forced to engage in sex with Mr. Gaiman, and no allegations of threats have been leveled, so "coercion" doesn't apply.

[@user-bb5mb8qp3n]

People needs to remember there is a separation between author's private life and their works. Scholars only consider biography and belief if those are relevant in works. That's a mindset that internet forgot. And after all, we don't know every single author of every single work of art we love, that would be impossible and ridiculous. And in the end, it's the work that remain

[@UncooperativeCat]

Yes, but in this case we're talking about a living person who would be financially benefitting from this, a person who is believed to have been able to target his victims precisely because of his works and platform. We can't look the other way and continue supporting his work without possibly exposing more people to damage.

[@user-bb5mb8qp3n]

@@UncooperativeCat I was talking specifically about the separation art - artist. I can like an artist's work and despise the author (that happens quite a lot tbh). The important is awareness of the bad deed of a celebrity, reputation suffers even more than a paycheck. If one's uncomfortable paying for an artist's work, however internet offer us... Alternatives unofficial ways of consume a work of art . I've never gave my money to Amazon either way. However, an author's work doesn't sustain only themselves (one can rarely live only as an author. Gaiman can, but I'm talking in general). Think also about all the people who can't have the luxury to quit an everyday job which is linked to an author's works (cameramen, editors, tailors, PR and so on). Actors can often quit a job, "normal" people seldom. That's very unjust that they would be punished for something that they have not control about and lose their income of living, while doing nothing wrong themselves. That's quite complicated, sadly

[@UncooperativeCat]

@@user-bb5mb8qp3n The fact remains that we have to demand as a condition going forward that he won't have a platform on the project. It's not ideal, but it's the only ethical thing to do if we want to support the work (including the working people involved) without enabling abuse or silencing victims.

[@Sendarya]

It's a discussion society is still having, trying to find the right balance. The pendulum always swings.

[@user-bb5mb8qp3n]

@@Sendarya I really think the key word is balance. Thank you!

[@tatianabreves3894]

So, you all condemning Neil already? Good Omens is more than Neil Gaiman? Nope. He is the reason it exists and is so perfect so nope. If he's out I'm out as well and if they find him REALLY guilty of the allegations and not just people pulling a Johnny Depp on him I will burn all my books and forget he exists.

[@Sendarya]

I get what you're saying, but this isn't 5 Amber Herds. I am not condemning or condoning, just reporting the facts. Regardless of what any of us believe, Amazon will do what they think is in their best financial interest.

[@UncooperativeCat]

Johnny Depp IS an abuser, though. I'm afraid you have been a victim of a carefully orchestrated campaign of misinformation. I recommend watching Medusone's break down series of the allegations here on youtube.

[@mothturtle7897]

It's unlikely he'll ever be tried in a criminal court. Civil cases are maybe a possibility. But we're talking about allegations from 5 separate women, two of which have given their names, spanning over 3 decades. There's text messages, voice notes from Neil, NDAs and pay outs. There was also corroboration from two other women who chose to stay off the record and remain anonymous. There's almost certainly more allegations coming given there's been rumours about him on the Whisper Network for decades. Quite a few people in the publishing industry have also come forward to speak against him and share what they've heard and seen over the years regarding Gaiman. Interestingly, Neil has hired the same PR/crisis management team as Depp, although it doesn't seem to working out so well for him, fortunately... Also, whilst Neil came up with the intial idea, the book never would have existed without Terry Pratchett.

[@subzerocoquette]

s3 is going to be so shit if they take neil off the production oh my god

[@cryalot378]

To be honest, I already considered s2 to suck too. Had high hopes for s3, for them to turn things around. But now it all feels grim.

[@Sendarya]

Why? He still wrote the scripts. Numerous other people have been heavily involved in the writing, directing, and show-running. He isn't an American God. Things could go very well, we shouldn't doom spiral.

[@ineffablemars]

I have to say, I don’t believe everything that has come out about Gaiman. I believe some of it but not all of it. Also, regret doesn’t mean one was r*ped.

[@9Allien9]

Paused = Canceled. 1) Amazon can't just steal the script from Gaiman and he would be a fool to let go a finished script in favor of someone throwing him overboard. 2) I doubt anyone will start writing an entirely new script. Too long term, too risky. I don't understand why Amazon listens to the minority of people who say they wouldn't watch the show because of Gaiman. Most of them would watch it anyway because of David, Michael, Terry, LGBT agenda and the characters. Oh and by the way, WHAT HAPPENED TO INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY?!? 🤔

[@flippetskater]

Amazon's already paid for the scripts, it seems - which would mean they now belong to Amazon, not Neil. No one's "stealing" anything, nor are they writing new scripts.

[@Sendarya]

He's already contracted, essentially sold the scripts to them. I'm not sure this contract says what, but he likely can't just not give them something they already bought without breaking some contract. But who knows, it's almost all speculation. We didn't know they're a minority or a majority. Amazon listens to money.

[@elimgarak7090]

I am not familiar with such contracts but I suspect there may be a scandal clause that could break it. If there isn't, then I feel that would be weird considering all that goes on in that industry. This is just my opinion of course, but in my mind, Amazon might be doing damage control to try and avoid cancel culture and being boycotted. It's kind of weird because cancelling and boycotting businesses over scandals and drama or even rumours is something I learned about in chinese culture, and now it seems to be happening in the usa a lot more. I understand why, tho, just an observation.

[@Pen4uall]

It is definitly Neils story, Neils world and Neils universe. And I love it. I don't expect anybody to be perfect. Maybe Neil is not a saint. Me neither.