Bret Hart SHOOTS On Who Stole The Sharpshooter!

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@InsideTheRopes
@InsideTheRopes Жыл бұрын
Is the Sharpshooter the greatest finisher of all time? Let us know in the comments below!
@Yippa391
@Yippa391 Жыл бұрын
Best that takes some extra talent. Perfect plex, figure four, I've Chokeslamed and powerbombed the odd tweeker... I'm no fighter... They just easy and stops a fight pretty quick
@LarryStranger
@LarryStranger Жыл бұрын
I’d say Steiner screwdriver
@LazcoBawskee
@LazcoBawskee Жыл бұрын
Greatest submission
@norm32548
@norm32548 Жыл бұрын
better than the leg drop
@JohnnyRhett
@JohnnyRhett Жыл бұрын
I say the figure four….. bc it actually hurts like hell to one man when laying on your back, and literally hurts like hell to the other man when rolled over
@StealthMarmot_
@StealthMarmot_ Жыл бұрын
Good of Bret to be honest about where he got the hold from. He saw Sting use it, and asked around and Konan showed him. So Sting had it first. You can argue over who did it best but Sting had it first. One of Bret's signature traits is his integrity. He's no liar. He might be wrong or inaccurate, but not intentionally.
@joes4194
@joes4194 Жыл бұрын
It was never a question of who did it first. There's plenty of video footage existing that establishes who did it first. Anybody who would argue that Bret did it first doesn't know their history at all. Now Bret did do it best.
@ZBR_ProXP
@ZBR_ProXP Жыл бұрын
In his book he said he asked “who knows how to do Riki Choshu’s finish?”
@SiriusV21
@SiriusV21 Жыл бұрын
Sting did it before Bret, but he didn’t do it first. It was invented in Japan
@bomtru.20
@bomtru.20 Жыл бұрын
Japanese did it first... Sting is not that famous as Bret Hart... Bret Hart make it famous the Sharpshooter
@snowvalkyrie
@snowvalkyrie Жыл бұрын
Noooo, Sting did not have it first! It was invented by the legendary Korean-Japanese wrestler Riki_Choshu. The vast majority of moves that are amazing in Western wrestling were stolen from Japanese wrestlers who were and still are light years ahead of Western wrestlers.
@KeqingMain8
@KeqingMain8 Жыл бұрын
I like that Bret is honest and gives credit where credit is due. I had no idea Konnan taught him the sharpshooter.
@juniegyllenhaal3937
@juniegyllenhaal3937 Жыл бұрын
Agree
@cozybones4644
@cozybones4644 Жыл бұрын
If I was the one who taught Bret Hart the sharpshooter I would never shut the fuck about it lmao
@clarity2115
@clarity2115 Жыл бұрын
@@cozybones4644 hell yeah! Lol, "you see the move right there? I taught him that"
@omerta316
@omerta316 11 ай бұрын
Same here
@shawngillespie3532
@shawngillespie3532 11 ай бұрын
@@cozybones4644Exactly 😂😂😂😂😂
@niksingh6995
@niksingh6995 Жыл бұрын
Fair play to konnan… I’ve never heard him bragging that he taught Bret the sharpshooter… humble guy… & fair play to Bret for telling it as it is…
@mordicaizerkahn-politics6148
@mordicaizerkahn-politics6148 11 ай бұрын
In the showers
@sleazyfellow
@sleazyfellow 11 ай бұрын
Konnan really helped alot behind the scenes. For Bret and of course the luchadores
@pounderfoo
@pounderfoo 11 ай бұрын
@@sleazyfellownot early in his Mexican career he wanted to be the top star (like everyone else) try to find out about his rivalry with vampiro in Mexico.
@Antitheist_23
@Antitheist_23 10 ай бұрын
I always liked konan as a wrestler and loved seeing him come out to the ring on nitro as a kid and im sure he would have remained humble but he had no reason not to be humble. Brett rightfully was about where the move came from. Great job on both their parts. Hearing this story made me smile. Great job Brett!
@bricepaul80
@bricepaul80 8 ай бұрын
Konnan was like the Hulk Hogan in Mexico back then...look it up
@46.56.A.
@46.56.A. Жыл бұрын
Konan taught Bret Hart the Sharpshooter? He might not have been a big star but he has had great influence on the business.
@jonathangoldsmith7832
@jonathangoldsmith7832 Жыл бұрын
2 minutes with another man in the shower can change your life
@calestelken4645
@calestelken4645 Жыл бұрын
😂@@jonathangoldsmith7832
@knightshousegames
@knightshousegames Жыл бұрын
To be fair, there are a lot of guys who aren't big stars, but are super smart about the business. Shane Helms is a guy like that.
@wainie1333
@wainie1333 Жыл бұрын
@@jonathangoldsmith7832 well played! 🤣 best comment of 2024 so far!
@aayzajm
@aayzajm Жыл бұрын
I see what you’re saying mate but also depends what means ‘big star.’ He was ok in the US but in Mexico he was massive!
@dannycruz5446
@dannycruz5446 Жыл бұрын
Invented by Karl Gotch, used by Riki Choshu in Japan. In the US, used by Adrian Adonis, Ronnie Garvin & Sting before Bret had started his singles career.
@mrdfk9410
@mrdfk9410 Жыл бұрын
Yep I remember watching Garvin vs Ric Flair a while back and shocked to see Garvin use it, as I had no idea who he was.
@zlinedavid
@zlinedavid Жыл бұрын
Popularized by Riki Choshu, but Gotch taught that hold to a lot of his trainees. There are photos of Samson Kutsuwada using the hold 2-3 years before Choshu made his debut.
@BengaliMemes115
@BengaliMemes115 Жыл бұрын
I remember Ronnie Garvin using the hold in a match against Greg Valentine
@yoreverend
@yoreverend Жыл бұрын
Terry Taylor (as the Red Rooster) briefly too.
@showstopper247
@showstopper247 11 ай бұрын
Bret hart’s version looked the best
@DrugzMunny
@DrugzMunny Жыл бұрын
This makes perfect sense because I honestly have always felt that Konnan was an absolute expert of submissions. Dude uses so many submission holds in the course of his matches, it's nuts.
@floyd2386
@floyd2386 Жыл бұрын
He wrestled all around the world and against all of the different wrestling styles, so yeah, it makes sense he'd be the one to know the move.
@natebaxter9551
@natebaxter9551 Жыл бұрын
He's been friends with Norman Smiley forever. That's a great source if you want to learn subs.
@chrismiller9568
@chrismiller9568 Жыл бұрын
I remember the tequila sunrise that konnan did that would be my submission if I was wrestling
@2mycup
@2mycup Жыл бұрын
He learned all of that in Mexico. From el dandy, la fiera, el negro casas, el negro Navarro, Apolo Dantes, etc....
@dude8273
@dude8273 Жыл бұрын
i remember konnan's two submission moves that were never seen. one was breaking rey's knee (his nwo gimmick), that was sick.
@derekwinkler7414
@derekwinkler7414 Жыл бұрын
The only difference between the way Sting does it compared to Bret. Is Sting starts the move with his right leg and, Bret starts it with his left. Both made huge impacts on the business. I’m a fan of both Sting and Bret. 🙏🏻
@Covisi0n
@Covisi0n Жыл бұрын
Sting's also looked lazy as he's just holding on while sitting.. while Bret sold it better by taking his time executing it.
@cuckertarlson3037
@cuckertarlson3037 Жыл бұрын
​@Covisi0n Bret actually sits on your back, leans way back and applies real pressure. Brets move looks as legite as it possibly can. Sting always takes a seated position but leans way forward, making sure to not put any pressure on his opponent. Stings move looks like crap honestly. Even Owen's looked better than stings.
@SiriusV21
@SiriusV21 Жыл бұрын
@@Covisi0n Yeah Bret looked like he cranked it back more.
@Iamone1111
@Iamone1111 Жыл бұрын
@@Covisi0n well they didn't call him the excellence of execution for nothing lol
@neiss616
@neiss616 Жыл бұрын
Why wouldn't Bret Wrestle Curt?
@MilMaska
@MilMaska Жыл бұрын
"Bret was always like. It's real. It's real. When he put you in the Sharpshooter you thought it was real" - Kevin Nash
@tinocontreras5105
@tinocontreras5105 Жыл бұрын
Nash has always been really complimentary and straight up about Brett. He even said he would never let smaller guys do to him the moves Brett did. Said it was cause Brett made it look so good.
@AD-ur1fk
@AD-ur1fk Жыл бұрын
⁠@@tinocontreras5105except the cage match
@AceFondu
@AceFondu Жыл бұрын
Not really, Nash and his friends piled on Bret for years for not taking more money as champion, thus not lifting all tides as it were to make them more money. So, Nash had a big beef with Bret over that.
@tinocontreras5105
@tinocontreras5105 Жыл бұрын
@@AceFondu yeah but he did respect Brett's in ring ability and character as a person
@natebaxter9551
@natebaxter9551 Жыл бұрын
​@@AceFonduit wasn't really beef. They even worked together in WCW.
@carpenter155
@carpenter155 Жыл бұрын
People honestly forget before the Sharpshooter, the Hitman’s finish was the Piledriver
@9577frasier
@9577frasier 11 ай бұрын
His finish move was the jumping clothesline
@jeremybrown1742
@jeremybrown1742 11 ай бұрын
@@9577frasier His tag team finisher was a jumping clothesline, called the Hart Attack. Whenever he wrestled singles matches, his finisher was the pile driver, but almost everyone was using that as a transitional move at the time.
@cartierkidd8063
@cartierkidd8063 7 ай бұрын
It was on some video games too
@All5Horizons
@All5Horizons 5 ай бұрын
Legit, the piledriver is was more damaging than most of the other finishers people use.
@hitek9too255
@hitek9too255 5 ай бұрын
I thought it was the heart attack(running neck breaker).
@BStudd1182
@BStudd1182 Жыл бұрын
As long time Bret fan, this is really surprising and informative. Hitman showing a lot of integrity here. Even though he wasn’t the inventor of the move, Bret really made it unique to him. He was the only one I ever saw that would step through with his left foot opposed to his right such as Sting,Owen , Benoit and even Rock(He had the ugliest version lol). Hats off to Bret though.
@SiriusV21
@SiriusV21 Жыл бұрын
Nah Shawn Michaels had the ugliest version 😂
@aoisora1445
@aoisora1445 Жыл бұрын
CM Punk made an even worse one, though it was an attempt at Bret Hart's variation he did not get his leg in right I think it was against Dom, yeah he messed it up and Dom as well@@SiriusV21
@jc3drums916
@jc3drums916 Жыл бұрын
@@SiriusV21 Nick Jackson's is pretty terrible as well.
@jc3drums916
@jc3drums916 Жыл бұрын
@@aoisora1445 There really isn't a variation, it's just a nice way of saying someone is doing it wrong. Whether you step over with your left foot or right foot doesn't make a difference, as they should just result in mirror images of each other. If done correctly, the victim has one leg trapped between your thigh and his other leg, so you're only holding onto one ankle. The Rock grabs both ankles with the same arm, which is very unstable and ugly. Shawn Spears does it a little bit cleaner, but he still crosses the victim's legs in the wrong order, so he winds up holding onto the near leg, not the far leg as he's supposed to, which is still less stable than when it's done correctly.
@oliverl.5834
@oliverl.5834 Жыл бұрын
He told this before on the DVD around 2006, though.
@van76
@van76 Жыл бұрын
Sting first used the Scorpion Deathlock in 1987 and Bret Hart would first use it in 1991 when he pursued a solo career. When Sting applies the Scorpion Deathlock, he applies it quick. Bret would apply the Sharpshooter methodically and tight.
@ThomasDailey
@ThomasDailey 9 ай бұрын
Pretty sure they did alternate sides too. Bret would use his left leg to step over. Sting used the right.
@K-TownJuggalo
@K-TownJuggalo Жыл бұрын
Konnan is underappreciated.
@zlinedavid
@zlinedavid Жыл бұрын
He's a good blend of lucha, power and technical styles, which fit him perfectly. He's bigger than most luchadors, but not the massive bodybuilder type either. Very underappreciated.
@RkoStunna
@RkoStunna Жыл бұрын
Konnan was always one of my favorites in WCW.
@zlinedavid
@zlinedavid Жыл бұрын
@@filmsceneinvestigation Sting didn’t invent the move. It was invented by Karl Gotch in the early 1970s in Japan. Sting wasn’t even the first to use it in North America. Adrian Adonis and Ronnie Garvin both used it before Sting did.
@tnbn55
@tnbn55 11 ай бұрын
@@zlinedavid His rolling clothesline✨
@Cheeb_91-th6ro
@Cheeb_91-th6ro 4 ай бұрын
They’re both jabrons
@mattcasdorph
@mattcasdorph Жыл бұрын
I love how the crowd burst out laughing about going in the shower and he joked at it too 😂🤣
@Trancymind
@Trancymind 11 ай бұрын
I wondered who dropped the soap first.
@kousikrakshit1295
@kousikrakshit1295 11 ай бұрын
​@@Trancymindit wasn't K-dawg for sure
@GHOSTHOUSEJD
@GHOSTHOUSEJD Жыл бұрын
He needs a podcast, when he tells stories I know it’s the truth 💯
@MorAodhan
@MorAodhan Жыл бұрын
Bret is a good guy. I feel the business misses a man of his integrity and passion. My first big introduction to him was his WWE run in 2010 (ikr?), but having grown up and studied the history of the sport, Bret is one of my all-time favourites. Class personified.
@brookswilliams5239
@brookswilliams5239 Жыл бұрын
Aww man dude you missed PRIME BRET HART in the early 90s
@GrumpyWolfTech
@GrumpyWolfTech Жыл бұрын
dude is a grumpy old man that hates everyone, lol.
@bomtru.20
@bomtru.20 Жыл бұрын
As a kid in the 90s like me.. You see Hitman Bret Hart is like a Action figure.. Bret Hart is every kid's Hero
@Foko851
@Foko851 11 ай бұрын
And his stories were so real, even the rumours, years later would not stop that even the screwjob was a story! But now most of us know the truth!.
@mikeprezzato333
@mikeprezzato333 Жыл бұрын
The complete antithesis of Hogan who would have told ya “Brother, I learned the leg drop from Burgess Meredith on the set of Rocky 5 while I was playing bass in Van Halen, Brother”
@Dr.Yakub22
@Dr.Yakub22 Жыл бұрын
"I got taught to reverse the sharpshooter into the leg drop by John F. Kennedy, when I was fighting the Viet Cong, Brother"
@thejokerstyle100
@thejokerstyle100 Жыл бұрын
The Burgess Meredith comment got me lmfao
@davidstacey685
@davidstacey685 Жыл бұрын
While been asked to join metallica
@Zombies8MyPizza
@Zombies8MyPizza Жыл бұрын
"I taught Bret Hart how to put on the Sharpshooter, brother! I was in Japan, I was due to work an event that night, I was flying back to the US to rehearse with Metallica and then I'd fly back to Japan, I got a call on the plane from Bret saying, you gotta help me brother, I need a new submission move - so I taught him the same move that I taught Sting which became known as the Scorpion Deathlock, which he got from Japan because I taught the Japanese wrestlers the move!"
@kellymcquay2626
@kellymcquay2626 Жыл бұрын
You are so disrespectful, what is your problem?? Grow TF up.
@RugoGaming
@RugoGaming Жыл бұрын
"IN THE SHOWER, boys." Hahaha
@SuperIsolated
@SuperIsolated Жыл бұрын
The best there is of this human being is not his skill in the ring but his humble and down to earth character as an individual.
@yujirohanma5199
@yujirohanma5199 Жыл бұрын
Bret Hart is a class act and True JAM UP guy
@ShadowAngel18606
@ShadowAngel18606 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Yeah, what a class act, especially when he cheated hundreds of times on his wife
@camschuster5947
@camschuster5947 Жыл бұрын
“He’s an Animal!! “An Animal!! An Animal!!”
@DdotAdot
@DdotAdot Жыл бұрын
@@camschuster5947......."shut up"
@jb888888888
@jb888888888 Жыл бұрын
Who are you to doubt El Ciervo?
@yujirohanma5199
@yujirohanma5199 10 ай бұрын
@camschuster5947 "I wanna say Hi to my one little fan out there.. "Hello Smokey.. my CAT"
@michaelriga6431
@michaelriga6431 Жыл бұрын
Its well known, not just from this interview that Bret got the idea of the Sharpshooter from Sting. What is surprising, is the Konnan part, as back in those days, Konnan was not a big name in the wrestling industry, as he was still working on his craft, and did a bunch of things in Mexico and some in Japan but was a WCW guy as soon it could happen.
@keltrepes2534
@keltrepes2534 Жыл бұрын
I always thought that the Scorpion Deathlock was a much more badass name.
@jd9119
@jd9119 Жыл бұрын
But it wouldn't fit Bret well. Sharpshooter goes with his "hitman" theme
@exeortegarubio
@exeortegarubio Жыл бұрын
The Rock should've named his version the Scorpion King Lock.
@andyryan4484
@andyryan4484 Жыл бұрын
Looked about as convincing as the scorpion king!
@Wulfman317
@Wulfman317 Жыл бұрын
@@exeortegarubioI always thought he should have used a variation of the Boston Crab and call it the Rock Lobster.
@tonyjofenig6833
@tonyjofenig6833 Жыл бұрын
@@Wulfman317 You win the internet today
@tonyrandall4364
@tonyrandall4364 Жыл бұрын
My favorite wrestler in WCW was Sting and my favorite in WWE was Bret both doing same move 🤣
@GOOSE-1334
@GOOSE-1334 9 ай бұрын
Same here
@GuitarAnthony
@GuitarAnthony Жыл бұрын
Created by Mr Saito and originally used by Riki Choshu in NJPW
@XavierGage
@XavierGage Жыл бұрын
Yep!
@exeortegarubio
@exeortegarubio Жыл бұрын
Blue Demon used it at a major stage before Choshu. It's likely that Demon, Saito, and others learned it from Catch instructors.
@dannycruz5446
@dannycruz5446 Жыл бұрын
Created by Karl Gotch
@zlinedavid
@zlinedavid Жыл бұрын
@@dannycruz5446 Correct. Gotch taught it to a number of his Japanese trainees.
@TheNick08
@TheNick08 Жыл бұрын
Its awesome getting to hear the origins of such an iconic move and even better getting to hear Konan given hus props
@gras1hoppa420
@gras1hoppa420 11 ай бұрын
Props to Brett to give credit to Sting for using the move and how Sting used It first...
@bdr113080
@bdr113080 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, Brett said this in an interview about 20 years ago, it was in the early 2000s. As a WCW fan I always hated when WWF fans who weren’t even paying attention to southern wrestling until the mid 90s would always try to tell me that Sting stole it from Bret when the southern fans knew that Sting have been using that match for a few years before Brett Hart started his solo career. I’m not saying anyone’s deliberately lying I just think so. Many people think everything great came from the WWF and with Brett Hartz fans it’s pretty much whatever happened happened in Canada and the WWF. But yeah, Brett’s been honest about this for 20 years. I was actually surprised because that interview where he first said it is almost 2 decades old now that there have been so many people over the years that didn’t know the truth about it.
@maxfischer469
@maxfischer469 Жыл бұрын
Ronnie Garvin used it in the WWF in 1990 during his feud with Greg Valentine. They called it the reverse figure four
@zlinedavid
@zlinedavid Жыл бұрын
There is an actual reverse figure four that is different than the sharpshooter. Instead of crossing the leg and standing, the wrestler applying the hold steps on his opponents foot and drops down.
@horizontoday7874
@horizontoday7874 9 ай бұрын
The reverse figure four is when turnover and lie on your stomach
@maxfischer469
@maxfischer469 9 ай бұрын
@@horizontoday7874 that’s reversing a figure four yes. But the sharp shooter has also been called the reverse figure four prior to him using it.
@tj-mb3fy
@tj-mb3fy 11 ай бұрын
Konnan is an underrated worker. And he was entertaining on the mic. All around a great wrestler
@neosupreme7971
@neosupreme7971 Жыл бұрын
The Sharpshooter was a fantastic name for a fantastic hold.
@r4x2
@r4x2 11 ай бұрын
Konnan's Tequila Sunrise is an underrated and underutilized submission as well.
@MCitkowicz
@MCitkowicz Жыл бұрын
This is why he is my favorite wrestler of all time! He doesn't lie like so many other wrestlers. You know how many other wrestlers would say yeah, I was the one who made that up 👏🏼 👏🏼 Best there is, best there was & the best there ever will be!!!
@horizontoday7874
@horizontoday7874 10 ай бұрын
Sting used the leg lock first. Bret’s initial finisher as a singles competitor was a Piledriver. Prior to that was “The Hart Attack” clothesline with the assistance of then tag team partner, Jim Neidhart. The first time I saw the scorpion deathlock used in the WWF was by Ronnie Garvin
@tinocontreras5105
@tinocontreras5105 Жыл бұрын
Really decent brett gave konan props for teaching him his signature move. Most guys would say they knew how to do it. Like Michael Hayes saying he showed stone cold the stunner, when really austin said he took the move from Mikey whipwreck in his short time in ECW
@Htown5
@Htown5 Жыл бұрын
Bret is the 🐐 honest and speaks facts fearlessly. The best there is, the best there was, the best there will ever be for the reason. Excellence of Execution 🤘🏼
@timpruitt7270
@timpruitt7270 Жыл бұрын
He isnt the "goat". He was the champion in the worst era of wrestling. And that's just a stupid catchephrase.
@ShadowAngel18606
@ShadowAngel18606 Жыл бұрын
Worst drawing WWF Champion from 1992 until 2001. Still holds the distinction as the WWE Champion to draw the lowest crowds at the MSG, Meadowlands and Saddledome and main eventing the worst selling PPV ever.
@SoleEpiphany
@SoleEpiphany Жыл бұрын
He talks 90 percent bullshit and 10 percent truth like the rest of them
@rommelmahilum
@rommelmahilum Жыл бұрын
a lot of bitter hater here🤣🤣🤣...please dont cry ok..even if you wake up in the morning or much worst,you did not,he is still the best there is,the best there was,and the best that ever will
@ShadowAngel18606
@ShadowAngel18606 Жыл бұрын
@@rommelmahilum Can't handle the truth?
@enzothunder2996
@enzothunder2996 11 ай бұрын
For clarification, he first seen the move in japan ! But got inspired by Sting using it and also rarely using and was taught it by konan
@SV1234-o4e
@SV1234-o4e 11 ай бұрын
Bret fan for life ever since saw him the first time on cable Tv in 1992,me and my dad took to his style of wrestling,RIP to my dad who left us in 2019, even in his later years any mention of The Hitman brought the glow back in his eyes❤
@danielszomor5025
@danielszomor5025 Жыл бұрын
And if I am not mistaken, Sting learned it in Japan, where it is called Sasori Gatame..meaning scorpion lock.
@Kitto0
@Kitto0 11 ай бұрын
My favourite through & through. Just for being a perfect role model even to this day. He could’ve lied or twisted stories around but instead gave honest credit where it is due 🙏
@miguelito09
@miguelito09 Жыл бұрын
Brets sense of humour is underrated. Funny guy, as well as the GOAT
@azrielnguyen9586
@azrielnguyen9586 11 ай бұрын
I definitely recall seeing the Scorpion Deathlock first, but Brett is my favorite wrestler of all-time.
@yungmanong7567
@yungmanong7567 Жыл бұрын
So Sting did in fact have the Scorpion Death lock before the Sharpshooter
@rileystokosa2459
@rileystokosa2459 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for staying and being there for the fans at a meet and greet in mn
@joydipchatterjee2761
@joydipchatterjee2761 Жыл бұрын
such honest and grateful 🙂
@lvsselle
@lvsselle 11 ай бұрын
The most important thing to Bret was always the respect of his peers over everything else, you can tell he wants to be remembered as a person like how the business looks at someone like Undertaker.
@arielquelme
@arielquelme 3 ай бұрын
Except to Goldberg
@Halbared
@Halbared Жыл бұрын
I had Tecmo Wrestling, the scorpion deathlock was one of the finishing manoeuvres.
@ValiantWrestling
@ValiantWrestling 11 ай бұрын
Giant Swing was the best move in the game.
@brunohenriqueazevedoborges5490
@brunohenriqueazevedoborges5490 10 ай бұрын
0:44 - "I refused. I'll quit and go home before I wrestle Curt" Ok. THIS confuses me. I thought the two did not have a problem. And they went to have some really great matches down the road.
@StuUngar
@StuUngar Ай бұрын
He was gonna be jobbed out every night. This was just before SS 91
@maketheswitchton6779
@maketheswitchton6779 11 ай бұрын
He said: No I didn't steal it from Sting, I stole it from Sting when he was in Japan.
@PaulSmith-sb7sj
@PaulSmith-sb7sj Жыл бұрын
Gotta love memories. Because I knew 100% that I saw Rugged Ronnie Garvin put this on Greg the Hammer Valentine. A little research (very little) shows that match took place on January 21, 1990. That was 2 years before Konnan made his debut in the WWF.
@dannycruz5446
@dannycruz5446 Жыл бұрын
It was Garvin's move yeah. Adrian Adonis also used it in the WWF in '85.
@PaulSmith-sb7sj
@PaulSmith-sb7sj Жыл бұрын
@@dannycruz5446 -thank you. I didn’t know it predated 1990
@zlinedavid
@zlinedavid Жыл бұрын
@@PaulSmith-sb7sj It actually goes back to the 1970s in Japan. Karl Gotch taught it to a lot of his Japanese trainees. Riki Choshu is the one who became known for it around 1974, but there are photos of other wrestlers using it 2-3 years prior to that.
@FunkoPopBoxing
@FunkoPopBoxing Жыл бұрын
I never even knew Conan had an early wwe run
@KMBExpert
@KMBExpert Жыл бұрын
Yeah Konnan told this story years ago on the Wrestling Observer Radio show, and it was basically the same way Bret told it. It was well over 15 years ago, and at the time Konnan was known for having great interviews with Dave.
@patrickperalta59
@patrickperalta59 Жыл бұрын
so funny how Bret learned how to put on the Sharpshooter in the shower with Konan. and the crowd goes wild with cheers 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂
@BoysGotit
@BoysGotit 3 ай бұрын
2:20 Vince str8 up stole stings move then years later when sting came to wwe Vince pretended not to know who sting was…
@BoysGotit
@BoysGotit 3 ай бұрын
After watching that Netflix doc I can confidently say Vince knew who sting was. He pretends he doesn’t know because he wants to appear better than.
@kol9495
@kol9495 Жыл бұрын
1:58😂😂😂 classic Bret
@blessedjuggernaut
@blessedjuggernaut 11 ай бұрын
Sting is one of the greatest legends of all time and has never gotten the recognition he deserves
@edel4897
@edel4897 Жыл бұрын
Konan was an awesome competitor before he became K-dawg he was in great condition wwf had him under max something or other I think joking the nwo he was not used correctly as far as wrestling goes so he hardly wrestled and it was obvious in his physique but man what a mind and hear for the business definitely deserves more credit for what he’s done just ask Rey Misterio and as you can see in this video Bret Hart I’m sure there are many others.
@zlinedavid
@zlinedavid Жыл бұрын
Max Moon, which was ridiculous. They didn't know how to use him. Even in his nWo Black & White run, he never was all that noticeable. It was during his Wolfpac run when they finally gave him some mic time and realized....oh, this dude can talk. He's also a good blend of the lucha, power and technical styles, which suited him perfectly. He's bigger than most luchadors, but smaller than the jacked up bodybuilder types.
@nurseelliott4256
@nurseelliott4256 9 ай бұрын
One of the reason I like Brett he’s a straight shooter. Gave credit where credit is due. Shout out to Konan another cool dude
@powerofme7144
@powerofme7144 Жыл бұрын
Konnan: Ok I’ll show you Bret but you just dropped your towel. Shawn: Bret’s seeing Moony Days!
@DJObiSmalls
@DJObiSmalls 10 ай бұрын
Bruh... I LOVE Bret Hart... Sting is my all time favourite... and their feud in 98 was a dream for me.
@evalangley3985
@evalangley3985 11 ай бұрын
I didn't knew THAT!... KONNAN?!!! Wow, my respect for this guy just skyrocket...
@BC-bf2eq
@BC-bf2eq 11 ай бұрын
K-Dog 😎
@baloneyuno8572
@baloneyuno8572 11 ай бұрын
Bret Hart was already retired way before I started watching WWF , i never knew him, but i always hear that he was betrayed the most by WWF. And looking at him he always looks so polite and humble person.
@RogerSallee-u8d
@RogerSallee-u8d Жыл бұрын
Bret Hart mentioned that he refused to wrestle Curt. I'm curious as to who he's talking about because the only Curt I remember is Curt Hennig and they obviously wrestled each other in that awesome SummerSlam match in 1991 so that couldn't be him.
@123veto
@123veto 11 ай бұрын
Bret Hart is a real one foretelling the truth about Conan teaching him the Scorpion Deathlock... and also Bret Hart had the best saying... the best there is... the best there was and... the best there ever will be.
@EazyE11
@EazyE11 Жыл бұрын
"And Konan learned it from me brother!" -Hogan probably
@Brownberet197
@Brownberet197 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@zlinedavid
@zlinedavid Жыл бұрын
"And I learned it at Wembley when I was on tour with Metallica brother"
@ValiantWrestling
@ValiantWrestling 11 ай бұрын
@@zlinedavid the night before andre died.
@corycoles891
@corycoles891 10 ай бұрын
At least he solid on who helped him to get to where he is in the history book of wrestling.
@myname1989
@myname1989 11 ай бұрын
Problem is Ronnie Gravin was doing the reverse figure four in 90 against Greg Valentine and Terry Taylor was doing it in 88 as the Red Rooster . Konnan did join wwf until 93 so Brett had definitely seen it from other places than just Japan .
@brozors
@brozors 11 ай бұрын
Yup, I remember Ronnie Garvin when he had his feud against Greg Valentine. I thought that was coolest submission hold ever.
@ilbercgross4736
@ilbercgross4736 11 ай бұрын
Ronnie and Bret were on the same Survivor team.
@GG-mr9iz
@GG-mr9iz 11 ай бұрын
The original scorpion deathlock was created by Korean wrestler who wrestled in Japan.
@MrSpeed-lt8gr
@MrSpeed-lt8gr Жыл бұрын
To be fair, Riki Choshu was the first person to use the move.
@FranzWeberX
@FranzWeberX Жыл бұрын
Yes it was Riki Choshu.
@nashakim
@nashakim Жыл бұрын
I think he used stings scorpion deathlock for the story because most people wouldn’t know who he is. konnan was telling the story and said he forgot that he helped Bret with the move until people asked him about it. But he said Bret approached him and asked if he could help him with the Riki choshu move. They didn’t really bring stings name but I guess it was made so popular by sting so they just said his name.
@ypmm53
@ypmm53 11 ай бұрын
Great story! I love the fact that he kept it 💯!!
@Station_AI
@Station_AI Жыл бұрын
Konan showed him how to apply it but he said he stole it from Sting which is a huge revelation.
@mrchaotiq
@mrchaotiq Жыл бұрын
Sting learned it from Riki Choshu while on an excursion in New Japan and Riki isn't even the innovator so it goes back further than both Bret and Sting.
@blake7871
@blake7871 Жыл бұрын
@@mrchaotiqTrue, but Sting brought it to the States.
@mrchaotiq
@mrchaotiq Жыл бұрын
@@blake7871 Yeah to me it's like Undertaker getting love for the tombstone when Dynamite kid did that move like 8 years before him. Bret has the best execution of the move though
@MxMoondoggie
@MxMoondoggie Жыл бұрын
@@mrchaotiq That move in Europe was just a regular piledriver, that's how it was performed in Europe, that's not specific to Dynamite Kid it's just how he learned the piledriver in England.
@Halbared
@Halbared Жыл бұрын
@@blake7871 Ronnie Garvin and Adrian Adonis were both using it in the states before Sting.
@CarlosLiberated
@CarlosLiberated 11 ай бұрын
...and Sting is still wrestling. It's a shame he missed so much injury time at his peak. He's still in the GOAT conversation, but I feel the Sting = GOAT argument would be a lot stronger if he wrestled more in the mid-late 90s/early 2000s and his WWE run wasn't completely botched. Bret had a long, successful career, but Sting started earlier and has been on top far, far longer. All that said, while I'm the biggest Sting fan, I have to put my bias aside and say that Bret's version of the Sharpshooter/SDL is my favorite of the two. Just something about how Bret locked this opponents legs up that was subtle, but really made it look like there was no escape, whereas sometimes Sting's was so quick the opponent leg positioning could be a bit sloppy. Bret did it the same every time, even against larger opponents.
@arielquelme
@arielquelme 3 ай бұрын
IMO Owen Harts Sharpshooter os better than Bret
@wildwine6400
@wildwine6400 Жыл бұрын
Wasnt it Riki Choshu's move originally?
@ProtomanButCallMeBlues
@ProtomanButCallMeBlues Жыл бұрын
I've heard Saito invented it. But according to Konnan, neither of them actually knew (him and Bret) from WHO they saw the sharpshooter. They had both just seen it in Japan.
@MrSpeed-lt8gr
@MrSpeed-lt8gr Жыл бұрын
I believe it was. At the very least he was the first to popularize it.
@ThunderFist1978
@ThunderFist1978 9 ай бұрын
Bret didn't say who taught him the hold in his WWE DVD set, but he did mention in it that he asked in the locker room one day if anyone knew how to do the scorpion death lock, and he said that fortunately someone did know and taught it to him. I never realized it was Konan.
@liamclarke5275
@liamclarke5275 Жыл бұрын
What's the story behind Bret not wanting to wrestle Curt (Hennig I presume)?
@joshuaa1605
@joshuaa1605 Жыл бұрын
I'm wondering the same thing. I'm guessing he didn't wanna hurt Kurt's push and take his belt? Because they were such good friends.
@masterfulsky
@masterfulsky Жыл бұрын
im guessing he didnt want to break up the hart foundation with jim the anvil just to lose to mr perfect.......then they told him he was winning the ic and its buh bye jim
@RatedRcny
@RatedRcny Жыл бұрын
Gotta be one of those two things cuz he was good friends with Curt Hennig
@paulcarpenter7844
@paulcarpenter7844 Жыл бұрын
Yeah that was very weird I didn't understand that how she went into more about
@GameTime-yj6qv
@GameTime-yj6qv Жыл бұрын
​@@masterfulsky😂
@xjp1998
@xjp1998 Жыл бұрын
To add I have heard when I was much younger that Eddy Gilbert had done a tour in Japan and saw a Japanese wrestler use it. When he came home he was put with Missy Hyatt and Sting and Ric Stiner when they were a heel group in UWF, and Gilbert gave the move to Sting to use, and that is how Sting got the move but it was a Japanese wrestler that originally was using. I don't know how accurate that is but that is what I have heard.
@bipolarminddroppings
@bipolarminddroppings Жыл бұрын
Bret is the anti Hulk Hogan. He could just go along with the narrative, but he tells the truth instead.
@Henry-y8b9q
@Henry-y8b9q Жыл бұрын
Hulk Hogan would not be a nobody if he didn't used backstage politics The Rock,Bret hart,Stone cold,Undertaker,Randy savage,Piper,mankind,Goldberg got over by themselfs unlike HOGAN who used backstage politics all the time whether wwf or wcw to get over he knew he wasn't good enough so he politics his way to the top he would be a nobody
@yaccfonoti
@yaccfonoti 11 ай бұрын
I can't believe this, I always talked down on the scorpion death lock thinking he stole it from Bret 🤦‍♂️ full credit to sting such a legendary move
@JohnnyRhett
@JohnnyRhett Жыл бұрын
It’s nice to hear him credit Sting. The move resembles a scorpion,,, I’d like to know what made them think of sharpshooter. Only thing I can think of is the little green army men toys, the one soldier probed out in a sharpshooter position. His legs were laid out like in the same position they would be in the submission move, but flat on the ground
@floggyWM1
@floggyWM1 Жыл бұрын
"The Hitman" Bret Hard, Hitman = sharpshooter
@ModernDayRenaissanceMan
@ModernDayRenaissanceMan Жыл бұрын
Nice analogy. I never thought of that & yet I had the same army guys in the 80s.
@uglyn6a
@uglyn6a Жыл бұрын
Because he's the hitman, and they snipe people usually, so they're sharpshooters... That name is Mitch cooler and with the character name makes it that much better
@codyjohnson4174
@codyjohnson4174 Жыл бұрын
Resembles? It’s literally the same exact move, like an RKO is the exact same as the diamond cutter. I don’t what part would seem different except sting does it with his right arm and right leg, and Bret with his left, that’s the only difference
@THEiDC
@THEiDC Жыл бұрын
pretty sure he meant that it resembles an actual scorpion, as in the arachnid
@soulserrated
@soulserrated 11 ай бұрын
what was brets issue with wrestling kurt henning? just curious.
@VazzVegas
@VazzVegas Жыл бұрын
It's interesting to hear he adopted it after Sting had made it famous because when ever a random wrestler has used the move since, announcers refer to it as a sharpshooter, never a scorpion death lock.
@rongill1234
@rongill1234 Жыл бұрын
depends where you are normally in wwe they call it that but in other places i hear scorpion death lock and as a kid called it that until bret started doing it
@BlackEffect
@BlackEffect 5 ай бұрын
I love Brett! Thank for for telling the truth fam
@joemendoza2292
@joemendoza2292 Жыл бұрын
Sting had been using it since qt least1988 if not earlier.
@SupermanHopkins
@SupermanHopkins 7 ай бұрын
Imagine being Konnan and getting these flowers after all these decades. I've never once heard Konnan brag about teaching Bret that move, but based on K's response to the Hitman, you can tell that getting his credit meant something to him.
@trapdoorfloyd
@trapdoorfloyd Жыл бұрын
I think Vince hates Sting the most out of any wrestler from his time. To bad even Jesus had critics too.
@ben7932
@ben7932 Жыл бұрын
Vince would have signed Sting in a heartbeat, especially in the 90s
@assassinsknight
@assassinsknight Жыл бұрын
Because Sting was one of those guys that never needed him.
@bomtru.20
@bomtru.20 Жыл бұрын
Bret Hart is more famous.. nobody knows Sting.. I don't even know Sting until Bret Hart transfer in WCW
@Bat-manwholaughs
@Bat-manwholaughs Жыл бұрын
⁠@@bomtru.20nobody knows Sting ? You shouldn’t be so hard on yourself …you’re a somebody . A little stupid but a somebody !!!
@Dee-KV3
@Dee-KV3 Жыл бұрын
Props to Brett,i wouldn't except less from him though,always has been a stand up honest person
@MichaelAmen316
@MichaelAmen316 Жыл бұрын
The "sharp shooter in the shower" would be a crazy name for the move. Yikes! Appreciate Brett's honesty. He should have tried it in catering for everyone's sake.
@jw3638
@jw3638 11 ай бұрын
One of my favorite technical wrestlers
@Idiedin1980
@Idiedin1980 Жыл бұрын
When he says he refused to work with Curt, is he talking about Curt Hennig?? I can't think of a single person include Bret in other interviews that said Curt Hennig was easy to work with and an amazing worker.
@via_negativa6183
@via_negativa6183 Жыл бұрын
I think it was for a different reason remember Brett had some amazing matches with mr perfect.
@thejokerstyle100
@thejokerstyle100 Жыл бұрын
I was looking online about this and can't find anything....it's an odd comment from bret if he means mr perfect
@Idiedin1980
@Idiedin1980 Жыл бұрын
@@thejokerstyle100 Same, everything after that comment went in one ear and out the other...I just kept thinking, Curt Hennig??
@adeltoral
@adeltoral Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I don’t know. I’ve never heard a bad thing about Curt Hennig.
@lovelyhurlin6494
@lovelyhurlin6494 Жыл бұрын
I was looking for this comment, I never heard that Brett and Hennig had heat before.
@albertausprey
@albertausprey Жыл бұрын
The original is called the Scorpion Lock. Sting’s name is somewhat of tribute to the innovator from Japan.
@secularbelt
@secularbelt Жыл бұрын
It’s an easy move, but Rock’s had 20 years and still hasn’t figured it out
@michaelpenirelli9003
@michaelpenirelli9003 Жыл бұрын
I hate the Rocks version
@JM1993951
@JM1993951 Жыл бұрын
I’d love to see a submission match between Rock and Cena.
@MxMoondoggie
@MxMoondoggie Жыл бұрын
This all happened at the TV taping for WWF Superstars on 26.03.1991 in Las Vegas, aired on TV 13.04.1991 with Bret wrestling an enhancement match. Konnan was actually there for a dark match try out at that taping, he wrestled a few try out matches in the early 90's and appeared on TV a couple of times as a jobber before getting the Comet Kid gimmick (later renamed Max Moon after he quit the role and was replaced by Paul Diamond). Konnan actually appeared in WCW first teaming with Rey Mysterio in the 1990 international tag tournament and caught the eyes of WWF officials. The stars really aligned for Bret with the only guy who knew how to perform the move correctly being a wrestler there for a dark match that particular night. A chance encounter that led to his most iconic move.
@gregordurchaus2924
@gregordurchaus2924 Жыл бұрын
interesting. do you know which "Curt" he didn't want to wrestle? (@0:40 min.)
@jb888888888
@jb888888888 Жыл бұрын
@@gregordurchaus2924 Hennig I'd expect.
@willydawg99
@willydawg99 Жыл бұрын
so Sting had it first!!!!!!!!
@Mo-gg8ts
@Mo-gg8ts Жыл бұрын
And Bret wanted to call it scorpion !
@Dr.Yakub22
@Dr.Yakub22 Жыл бұрын
Interviewer : Who stole the sharpshooter ? Bret : fu*k Goldberg.
@AntonioTorres-yj1sn
@AntonioTorres-yj1sn Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@Deedric_Kee
@Deedric_Kee 11 ай бұрын
Sting was doing the Scorpion Deathlock before Brett became a huge star. I love them both,but I already knew who did it first.
@AfterwardDeified
@AfterwardDeified Жыл бұрын
What I want to know is why Bret didn't want to work with Curt 🤔
@caseyd3204
@caseyd3204 11 ай бұрын
I assume it's not Curt Hennig because Bret has said on numerous occassions that Curt is his favorite opponent and a guy he had immense respect for.
@Alan_Smith
@Alan_Smith Жыл бұрын
I watched pro wrestling as a kid and figured it out playing around with friends and watching Sting. Bret needed someone to show him, and he had to show Shawn. So, does that make me The Best There Is, The Best There Was, and the Best There Ever Will be at Show Stopping??? Seriously, first time I ever heard that he got the move from Sting and Japan. The rumor has always been he came up with it and Sting stole it. Much props for the honesty.
@OuTSMOKE
@OuTSMOKE Жыл бұрын
The Sharpshooter was so much better than the Scorpion Death Lock. The way Bret would sink down and crank back made it look so much more painful than Sting's "I'm just gonna kinda squat over you" version.
@via_negativa6183
@via_negativa6183 Жыл бұрын
Yeah sting applies it so lame it might as well be considered two different moves.
@OfficialTravvyTrav
@OfficialTravvyTrav 11 ай бұрын
Bret Hart is the Katt Williams of the wrestling business 😂😂
@MSH786
@MSH786 11 ай бұрын
Sting may have been using the Scorpion Death Lock before Bret started using the Sharpshooter, but I always thought that Bret’s Sharpshooter always looked better because it looked like he would lock it in much tighter so it would hurt more than Sting’s Scorpion Death Lock.
@aervaealtonelty9850
@aervaealtonelty9850 6 ай бұрын
I do it better than both of them.
@jking3684
@jking3684 11 ай бұрын
Wow, learn something new everyday . Much Respect Bret
@mikedifalco2715
@mikedifalco2715 Жыл бұрын
I can say that the sharp shooter is definitely Bret’s move. Any time someone else does it Bret immediately comes to mind. 👍🏻
@Mo-gg8ts
@Mo-gg8ts Жыл бұрын
Scorpion for me !!!
@kikiki4592
@kikiki4592 Жыл бұрын
Even though he admits he had to learn the Scorpian from Koonan, and Sting named his the Scorpian.
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