Bridging the Gap: Is the 5800X3D Enough for Gaming & Multitasking - Byte Size Tech

[@rangersmith4652]

No way around it; you want t play the latest big titles at high resolution with the pretty turned up and high FPS, you're always going to be chasing the latest upgrade. The PC gaming industry loves you.

[@veilmontTV]

I'm just not satisfied with the current tech.

[@earthling1984]

This is why I still am loving my 1080x60 27" monitor. Had it for like 9 years now. Love it. Looks great to me. And no games struggle with my system (5800x, 3060ti). Everything is smooth, stable, and cool! When I was younger I always had to have the best of the best and play at the highest of the highest settings. Now, 20 years later, I'm cool a couple years behind.

[@Geromino555]

hallelujah brother! same here 👌 gaming at max settings on a 6700XT and R5600X @ 1080p 60hz. I don't see the need to update for another 4-5yrs.

[@rafaeltb]

I just switched from a 5800X3D to a 5950X at Microcenter, mainly because multitasking was a nightmare and day to day tasks were not as fluid even though I got 64GB RAM paired to that build; now with the 5950X I can leave all my software open in the background while I run Apex Legends for a while without the game crashing, unlike with my old 5800X3D.

[@C0d0ps]

Enough cpu cores and ram upgrades is the most noticeable difference you have each and every day. - Gpu upgrades are only noticeable while you game. CPU and ram stuff you notice all the time.

[@dreadtrain2846]

Making a build right now with the 5950x.

[@elfo7]

I am glad I went for the 5950X 3 years ago, I won't probably upgrade in at least another 4 years.

[@C0d0ps]

@@elfo7 Same here, I got my 5900x a few years back. I have no regrets with my 12 cores. Being able to stream at x264 slow with apex legends at 180 fps is pretty good. When I don’t stream I go for 240 hz.

[@eddiea3782]

@@elfo7 Me too. 5950X/RX 6900 XT/ LG 3840x1600 144Hz. I'm good.

[@davidbusque-wg7gy]

The reality check and honesty this channel have his what we need ! thank you guys !

[@GodSEndOMG]

Remember you Can always play on High settings. Ultra settings people rare notice any different.

[@ElladanKenet]

Great video. Yeah, this is why I'm fine staying on 1080p and not moving up to 1440 or 4K. I'm happy with 1080, and not keen on upgrading faster than 4 years if it can be helped. Your use case totally matters.

[@C0d0ps]

I play on 1080p 240hz I have a 3070 and don’t regret it I never run out of vram and my favorite games run like butter in ray tracing.

[@dianaalyssa8726]

I agree. 1080P is way easier to run hardware wise. My friend has 0 complaints with his 5800X build in 1080P, he's still really happy with that (so happy that he called it a 10 core a couple times even though I reminded him it had 8), but it handles all the gaming workloads for what he plays great. I love 1440P and 4K media but it's had me chasing upgrades. There was nothing wrong with the days of gaming at 720P (and earlier)-1080P. There will be eventually be a new release that won't run well at launch, which leads to chasing more upgrades to support 1440P/higher. I only have one friend on 1440P UW, Am a bit happy to not have to push that workload yet, in terms of additional pixels requiring more to run the game well. There's nothing wrong with keeping your use case practical/economical, at the most common resolution today, 1080P. FSR and upscaling are decent enough. It's a slippery upgrade slope over time if you start chasing frames/higher resolutions, from 60 class to 70 class to 7800XT to 7900XTX to 4090, not sure everyone should go above the midrange is a good price performance place to be.

[@svkAssasin]

I came across TechFamily about 4 years ago and honestly, it is one of the few channels, that makes sense to me. Now, I do not know much about PCs, and 4 years ago I knew even less. However, the advice then (and now) seemed waaaay off, but I did not knew any better (Piece of advice from one other chanel: "Here is Super-Mega-Ultra- Premium-4K PC build... with R5 7600 (non-X) and RX 7800XT.... with 750W PSU and 1TB el-Cheapou SSD. May be a decent build, not a premium one). PapaTech, Rogue and Junior have sound advice that are based on an argument. Thanks TechFamily, Two gold stars :)

[@ByteSizeTech]

Thanks for the kind words , :)

[@Martin23Kings_]

I have a 5800x3d with a ultra wide and a second 1080p monitor. I've had 0 issues with my cpu

[@dragonbike471]

Yeah same I'm using three monitors one 1440p and 2 1080p. There are a lot of apps in the background that I use and sometimes I run two games for the fun of it and it's still fine. 32gb of ram and Rx 7900xt kinda great build. Baldurs gate 3 and cyberpunk on high settings. Making me feel like I need to upgrade soon which I was thinking about but ehh after my ultrawide 240hz OLED comes in but the steam deck made me a minimum 80hz OLED gamer type of dude so my build can still work with me.

[@dragonbike471]

240hz will only be needed on valorant and overwatch which is still fine with comp games are easy

[@forog1]

Thats because that's the only CPU you know. There could be things happening that only someone with a higher core count would notice that you wouldn't.

[@Martin23Kings_]

@@forog1 it's not my first or only cpu. All I do is multi task and game and does both of those flawlessly. I even connect to my 55 4k tv with no issues. High frames, no slowdowns. All while playing games and having apps open in the background.

[@Loki_Trickster]

@@forog1 You know how much CPU a dual or triple monitor set up takes up ? Roughly 1% cpu and 1.5% gpu per monitor after the first completely Negligible Even on 10year old CPUS.

[@Bleaky1]

Havent watched vids in a couple years nice to see your still making videos, great opinions and advice thanks guys

[@DeSuaveOG]

I used to run 2 ultrawide.. now i have 2 27 inch monitors. 1 1080p 240hz and 1 1440p 240hz. 7800x3d 4080 super.

[@imo098765]

If he cant wait a 4090 is the best option, I would personally wait till the end of the year and get the 5090 or whatever amd calls their next flagship 8950XTXTXT I wanted a 3440x1440 monitor end of last year for work and sim racing, no space for triples, black friday had some good deals I added one to the cart and before I clicked buy I went to look at some benchmarks for AAA games, I would need something more than a 4080 to get into the 120ish fps and its not 4K where DLSS Quality setting looks good enough to pass for 4K I removed it from cart

[@elvertmack5039]

I have a g9 super ultra wide 49 inches 1440p 240hz. That monitor came out when 3090s were hot. I have mine on a 12900k/7900xtx and it plays beautiful even cod warzone and that's a 5k resolution. I run high detail on fsr quality settings and can run any title.

[@nostrum6410]

amd is not having in high end video cards next gen

[@racekar80]

5800x3D, 32 mb fast ram, 6800xt, with triple 32” monitors, Iracing struggles with frame rate when there are lots of cars or night races.

[@SIW808]

I have a Ryzen 7 5700X paired with a 4070 Super and can tell you that my CPU can't keep up at all in most recent games. Most of us play at 1440p with DLSS set to quality which has a base render resolution of 1707x960 and at that res you need a really good CPU to keep up.

[@TheManXL]

Yeah same but with 7900xt, it was painful with that CPU. FPS drops, barely using 80% of the 7900xt

[@tyonorshapzc7tjfvb7-caz]

time for a 5900X cuz that one screams (Buy ME! 🥺Swi) at you 😉 its like under 300 now like 270$ or so, no brainer since its just arround double the 5700x price and like 80% ore nice that that cpu, realy no brainer 😘 or the 5950X for the wonderfull luxury of only just 50$ more AM4 is truly a gift 😌

[@dIggl3r]

I upgraded from AMD 5600X + AMD 6900XT, to a AMD 7800X3D + nVidia 4090: on a 3440x1440@165hz monitor, playing that ONE game I play (Path of Exile), I was getting around an average of 85fps with high details on the old system, but now averaging 140fps with a tad higher details. I am not getting a forever 165fps "yee I win the game!" but its very good indeed. In the many charts I looked everywhere before buying the 7800X3D, it was showing a doubling of performance from the 5600X, I guess this is about right. As for the 6900XT vs 4090 I haven't really checked, I just bought the biggest baddest card on the block and didn't care, really. I am super happy I bought the 7800X3D, would I have gotten better performance with another cpu... I don't know.

[@dianaalyssa8726]

I can't speak for AM5 but my cpu is bored most of the time gaming since upgrading. I'm not sure how noticeable the jump from 7900XTX to 4090 will be in my main rig. With instability going 13th/14th on I've kept on 12900KF for now but were I to build all over might go 7950X3D or the next gen equivalent. I have actually pushed that 7900XTX to max before gaming and multitasking. There is something in not having to care and just getting the best each gen, assuming it comes in stock at/below MSRP etc. It's a luxury certainly. Also running 1440P one monitor (do have an old 720P ready monitor spare around if I want to run more than one for multiboxing, but I don't much do that anymore). I've seen a properly tuned 7950X3D do a bit better than a 7800X3D but for 1440P one monitor am not sure it's worth the cost (though perhaps the total cost of ownership is lower in not having to upgrade for longer).

[@forog1]

Point is if you're spending that much on a GPU why not also get the "Biggest and Baddest CPU on the Block"(7950x3d) as you say. 🤔

[@dianaalyssa8726]

@@forog1 Perfect pairing. 4090 is a great experience.

[@Hypershell]

This was an excellent video. I do think that TechTubers get a little too wrapped up in the "How do I max out the monitor?" mindset when that isn't actually what the viewer asked. Just using myself as an example, my monitor is 1440p, 16x9, 165hz. But I don't need 165FPS, I'm perfectly happy if I get 110 instead (and a lot of my games are engine-capped at 120 anyway). On the other hand, I'm pretty sure nobody buys 2 ultrawides because it's "all you need." That's not a setup you accidentally fall into just because the price tag looked nice. That is a beast of a display, you need a beast of a computer to put it to use.

[@ByteSizeTech]

Indeed, that was my thinking… you don’t end up with those monitors by accident and then say, “I’m just a casual gamer”. So in that case, go big and be done with it.

[@forog1]

@@ByteSizeTech It actually annoyed me when I watch HWUnboxed hearing them say all the time "All you need for games is a high cache/6 core chip or both to game". Yeah, sure all you need is 6 cores to play. But at what sore of experience. Thier chart won't tell you frame times which are important. You try to play an unoptimized game like Dragons Dogma 2 on a 6 or 8 core X3d chip I can swear to you my 5950x is far smoother in it then the x3d chips of this platform despite a slightly lower max FPS and I'm sure the 7950x/7950x3d will tell the same story vs the 7800x3d. When it comes to unoptimized games which there WILL BE those games, you will want the extra cores over the now standard 8 as consoles run those and games are really only super optimized to run on them. The amount extra your PC cores has to do to run the game is more taxing on PCs then consoles due to background tasks and compatibility codes it has to do to run the games program is a lot on the CPU. But no one gets this. Those cores that are busy needs help offloading the OS background tasks or the system will stutter. It's not the game it's the System stuttering that messes up frame times lol.

[@nasyaramadhana6788]

I have ryzen 7 5700x, ram 64gb, rx 6700xt with 1440p 165hz ultrawide monitor, i play horizon forbiden west with custom settings (high medium settings) get 40 - 60 and i'm happy with it

[@curtismariani6303]

I remember you said about always needing to upgrade when using an ultrawide sometime ago. It is so true, the 3090 was barely passable when using ray tracing so I jumped to the 4090 as soon as I could which made a huge difference. At the time I chose to stick with the 5800x3d as I only run 1 monitor and keep background tasks to a minimum so in most games it is keeping up well enough to max out my 175hz refresh rate in competitive titles. I’m basically loosing 7-9% fps when running games uncapped. However when it comes to cpu demanding ray traced games it is more noticeable. I get a reasonably playable experience in Alan Wake 2 (with out frame gen) but I know, I would get better if I jumped to the 7800x3d. The only reason I didn’t jump at the time was AM5 was over priced and it didn’t seem worth it for 7-9% and with the fps counter and cpu/ gpu utilisation off, gaming is enjoyable. Now prices have come down I’m in a dilemma, I know the 5090 is out in Q4 but I don’t think the 9800x3d is out until the April of next year (at the earliest). Now chances are stock of the 5090 will be limited until then anyway, but that is a costly upgrade to do in one go. Given prices have come down significantly, I am temped to jump to AM5 in the next few months, I just hate buying anything so late in the cycle. However since the motherboard and RAM will likely last maybe it’s not such an issue as 7800x3d’s are down to £350 in the uk. So would be able to sell easily later and recoup at least 50% of the cost. Think I’ve just convinced myself 😂.

[@davidmacfarlane4761]

Tech, I love your channel. You offer tons of insightful advice that other channels on KZbin don't consider addressing. I 100% agree that if maxing out the 165Hz refresh is a priority for the person who asked this question, then yes a full system upgrade is the only correct answer here. But if not, other options are available. Question here: if this user wanted the best multitasking while gaming experience on his current system, and he was willing to accept playing the games at 120 fps or even 90 fps, would selling the 5800X3D and buying a 5950x be a viable option for this user? I understand that this would not max his 165 Hz refresh rate. I do think you might come across as overzealously push maxing out the monitor's refresh rate in most your videos though, as if it's some nearly non-negotiable compromise. If I understand your perspective correctly, your view is that whenever someone who asks a question posts their particular monitor's refresh rate, that you view this number as necessarily the target framerate for (nearly) every game. Many casual players of AAA games are willing to consider playing below their monitor's refresh rate if the upgraded visual quality justifies the loss in fps by offering a better overall experience. It is indeed subjective how much framerate someone is willing to sacrifice for what level of quality enhancement or vice versa. I personally have played some games work my refresh rate maxed and other games with considerably less than my refresh rate and still had amazing experiences either way. Obviously, getting the max refresh rate is ideal, but the difference has never drastically affected my overall experience or enjoyment with a game.

[@ByteSizeTech]

Thanks for the feedback. You re correct in your comments on refresh, if willing to accept a compromise in AAA games, you can get away with less hardware for sure. My only counter is that if you can afford it, you do grow into premium stuff over time, even if you don’t need it today. But that’s IF if you can afford it of course.

[@dianaalyssa8726]

7950X3D for OP. Can upgrade it later when it's eventually not enough. I have a 7900XTX and a 4090 am driving way less monitors, no UW. My friend on 10900K 3090 1440P UW plays CoD & new games, has been saying for years about wanting to upgrade. It's so hard to go back to 60hz after you've tasted high refresh in a game that supports it, just feels weird, something feels off. I'd rather go down resolution than refresh if I had to choose one.

[@maxkrug2000]

I play 1440p ultrawide 144 Hz with 2070Super + 3900x but that setup is struggling now :D waiting for new generations of CPU and GPU to build a new PC at launch.

[@user-jk5um1om8l]

Currently on a 32” LG ergo 4k 60fps display. Was thinking of going dual monitor and adding one of those new fancy 4k OLEDs and now you have me thinking my system can’t handle it (4080 super, 5600g - I was one of those who bought an integrated graphics cpu during the gpu crisis 😭).

[@albanmarku6743]

I'm on a 5800x3d, 3070 at 1440p ultrawide and like to play new games at 120 fps high. The cpu is great for the most part but struggles when you start to do open world stuff like Elden ring (can drop to 60) and the gpu gives me around 90 frames if the cpu isn't limited. I wonder what I should upgrade to in the future to really achieve my target.

[@C0d0ps]

1440p ultra wide is 5k resolution. You need a better gpu. I use 3070 for 1080p ray tracing. 1080p and 5k pixels are not the same.

[@dianaalyssa8726]

1440P UW is a hard beast to run at high refresh. Am certain my friend caps 100FPS most games with his 3090 and 10900K (which was 4K when he bought it). He used to raid WoW at 100FPS and for him that was enough (healer monk). 1440P UW is harder to run though, it's tough maybe save for a new build. That or accept the maximum it can put out. I've used FSR and adjusted settings, open world are just very cpu demanding to run. I've never gotten to playing Elden Ring but have clocked time in WoW and FF14. My friend raided in 14 also, Am thinking maybe the GPU but it's a hard one. I've generally upgraded the CPU first then bought a new GPU after. I don't feel 90 is bad for 1440P UW, it's a beast to push.

[@ImranPangilinan]

the game is just horribly unoptimized!

[@SDAnime]

I have a 5800x3d with a 6750xt. Works good for me. But I just have 2 1080p monitors.

[@lm_dccxl4078]

i made a "mistake" buying a cheap 1440p 144hz gigabyte monitor for $200, i was so happy cuz "future proof", but then i realized that my i7 4770 and 1660ti combo cant handle that, even more I have to spend like 3 times the price of the monitor to have a "smooth" experience, when my previously 1080p and 100hz monitor was a nice experience. well... you learn from mistakes.

[@dvxAznxvb]

We need to reevaluate FPS and in game resolution fidelity Those two are independent of each other but they get lumped into the same cause it is important to overbuy on some regards to the monitor; call of duty isn’t a graphically intensive game but people care about frames; but in the single player games we care about graphical fidelity which targets at least 60fps at whatever resolution at NATIVE To keep it easier on the end user just figure out if you want resolution OR hz as the prioritizing for the GAME, not your idea of how you want to play the game An analogy is when people buy a car and mod it they make it into a car that they know they wouldn’t ever afford or have, but that idea that it is close is suitable but there reaches a point that it isn’t either the original idea let alone the idea of how it gets marketed by OEMs or manufacturers

[@yuyuy193]

i woul;d not buy a intel 13th/14th gen cpu atm because of game crashes for the last year and they apparently acknowledged it for the first time on april 9th so maybne it will be fixed in a few weeks

[@ausfoodgarden]

2 ultra wides is like running 4 regular 1440p monitors. That's a lot of processing! I tend to multitask too, but I use a good 1440p standard width and another 1080p monitor. Even with that setup I expect to have to update everything every 2 or 3 years, just not at the "premium" level, maybe a 5080 instead of 5090.

[@mr.electronx9036]

that's why i use ONE HUGE 4k monitor with 244Hz instead of 2 4k monitors. One big ultrawide panel is all what you need.

[@mikfhan]

I'm gonna run picture-by-picture so the left 5-by-9 part via iGPU hdmi is for browsing, right 16-by-9 for DisplayPort gaming. Then for games that run fine ultrawide I just disable the PBP to avoid rendering desktop while gaming. Upgrading platform/board whenever DDR gen increases (long live AM5 i hope).

[@wolfshanze5980]

I'm currently running an i7-10700F (8c/16t) with a RTX 3070Ti and 32GB DDR4... all this on a 1080p 144hz monitor. Overall, i'm pretty happy with my setup as I'm NOT into twitch FPS games like Fortnite or CoD. Mostly, what I play are WoW and AoW4, both of which are more notorious for being CPU intensive than GPU intensive... I do get occasional hiccups (especially in WoW in long views or crowded cities) and was wondering if a minor CPU upgrade would be noticeable/worth it, or if I should just stick with what I got until it's time for a complete upgrade. I'm wondering if upgrading the i7-10700F (8c/16t) to say a used i9-10900F (10c/20t) would be worth the trouble/cost. I've seen used 10900F on E-Bay for around $230... would the extra cores/threads help my CPU intensive games at 1080p, or would I not even notice any change? Sure the old "if you're going to upgrade, UPGRADE" rings in my ear, but I really don't think my entire system needs to be rebuilt for what I play at this time, as I'd have to replace MB, CPU and Memory to do a proper upgrade (since modern MBs need DDR5). Am I just looking for an upgrade as an excuse to tinker, or would a 10th Gen i7 to i9 be worth the trouble/cost for my type of gaming?

[@yankchef4067]

7800x3d with mobo and 32 gb of ddr5 i got for 469 at microcenter 2 months ago

[@hashtaglobotomy2655]

I agree totally with this. I have a 1440p lg ultrawide. its a dang good monitor...my 5800x and 6800xt can't do double this..32gb of ram is not enough for that either. I use an old ibm 8 bit 1280x1024 for my side monitor for extra information and spotify/youtube etc etc. Sadly, an all amd system just can't pull off something as substantial as 2 hiref ultrawides. I do want to upgrade to a 15 inch touch screen 1080p side monitor but if it means reduced performance for what i can afford then i guess i wont.

[@roqeyt3566]

I'm currently on a 360hz 1080p monitor If I want to run it full tilt, I'd need a 7950x3d. Instead, Im on a far weaker CPU As tech said, you can compromise. I love that it doesn't get choppy when fps swings between 180 and 240, and that's why I got the 360hz panel. God forbid if I tried to run cyberpunk at 360hz, it just isn't realistic for me to purchase hardware to keep up with that

[@ItsAkile]

I though about upgrading from my 3900x to 5800X3D and it makes sense to me but I'd rather wait and see if the next generation is meaningful but its a drop-in path so I can't go wrong. I'd be curious to see how the core difference operates in my day to day though, I multitask for real

[@Kitten_Stomper]

If you multitask a lot, why not drop a 5900x or 5950x?

[@justanobody4983]

Id say if your cpu is not bottlenecking stay. Want to upgrade to a 4060 ti or lower model get the 5700x or x3d. 4070 and up will have bottleneck issues with any ryzen 5000 series.

[@C0d0ps]

I don’t see the point of going from 12 to 8 cores Always upgrade for more cores.

[@ItsAkile]

@@C0d0psI kinda disagree with that, the 12 cores are not the best with so man dies and they can be binned worse than expected. I got bronze quality with my 3900x. I agree 5950x might be the best choice but I might appreciate the gaming cache more in the now

[@ItsAkile]

⁠@@roythunderplump unless I build a second system for gaming with arrowlake or Zen 4/5, think of a simple upgrade for massive gains. Would need a new board and Ram as well

[@mike1526373849]

First thing I'd like to say is; you have a phenomenal computer. That is a seriously great machine and you don't need to upgrade if you don't expect i9 13900k and rtx 4090 performance. Secondly I'd just like you to check you have an appropriate amount of RAM, 32gb at least. And sufficiently fast SSD and broadband speed those can also effect your in game experience to a surprising degree.

[@EctopicElm00707]

I have a 4090 and an ultrawide monitor, and while I don't have any obvious problems playing demanding games I do wonder if I'd benefit from a CPU/motherboard/RAM upgrade? I currently have a Ryzen 9 5950X. My son is a big gamer and he inherits my previous builds, so he'd benefit, but I wonder if it's better to jump in now or wait? TIA

[@ByteSizeTech]

Wait, we are very close to next Gen launches.

[@tyonorshapzc7tjfvb7-caz]

mhh, prolly maybe if u do 5k on that 4090 u might be lucky not to be cpu bottlenecked on that beast of a card keep the 5950 a lil longer, its not that much slower and still 16 cores i mean, dude thats awesome

[@tsahiv]

Where did you see it for 100$ flat? Samsung 980 pro 2tb is over 180$ on mewegg and amazon.

[@ByteSizeTech]

Prices went up since the live stream.

[@SIW808]

My question too. The lowest that drive has dropped is $119 and that was around last year

[@tsahiv]

@@ByteSizeTech Camel camel camel shows that the last time it was 100$ was in november 2023.

[@pascaldifolco4611]

Wanna go AM5, heard you, will get X670E board and 7950X3D ^^ But which one in the 500EUR range : Aorus Master, Asus Strix E-E, Asus Creator, MSI Carbon ? All are way above anything I need obviously, won't have use for 15 USB devices lol !!

[@tommyrotton9468]

I upgraded a RX 6600 to a 4080 super, 1440p ASUS g sync monitor 165mhz, AMD 5800x I honestly think it was a good if costly upgrade that maxed the monitor fps in the vast majority of games I play. I guess the only question mark would be why Fallout 4 on ultra before the incoming patch upgrade maxes out at 60 fps. Very playble but I thought the fps was low for an old game.

[@mryellow6918]

1:28, i feel called out.

[@itstheweirdguy]

Certain youtubers also explain in pretty much every 1080p benchmark it's done for scaling. He found where the 3d chips are faster and presented the data, what's wrong with that.

[@MrNota500]

Nothing, people with more money than an understanding how it will scale in a real world scenario is the problem.

[@itstheweirdguy]

@@MrNota500 I'm not really impressed by the 3d chips, I guess I'm not that heavy in my usage. It would stink for someone to get a 5800x3d and see that it isn't that much better and wish they would have just bought a whole new platform instead...I find it interesting when things scale but that has nothing to do with my own usage! What I WOULD like to see is future chips from Intel that just have more cache, which is coming, and how those scale against a 3d/non 3d amd chip

[@chrisabanil2130]

Well...his monitors gave it away. I have 2 monitors, one 2560x1440 180hz and one 1080 165hz. with a 7800xt. It runs great for daily tasks, streaming and gaming. Will look to upgrade to 7050x3d when there's a good deal.

[@joopgoed9726]

He 'thinks' the CPU is struggling. WADR if you can't install MSI afterburner and check which is bottlenecking then perhaps there are other things we need to look at. - is he thermal throttling? simple overheating? blow out the dust, get it out the cupboard, make sure it can breathe, reapply liquid paste - Fresh windows install - what kind of settings are you running? maxing out everything with RT will bring my 7900xtx to it's knees. If anything, I would say the GPU is the problem. For modern titles the 6950xt is a solid 1440p high settings gamer, but not a 1440p UW.

[@MrNota500]

Exactly. two ultra wides is insane. Does it wrap around him? No one needs that much screen. If he is playing a game on one what is he doing on the other? Turn it off or unplug it from the gpu, problem solved. When he needs wall to wall anime pron plug in the other monitor and fap like a boss.

[@bobbygeiser8478]

If you're gaming and light multitasking, would a 7950x3d be worth it over a 7800x3d?

[@bobbygeiser8478]

Watched the rest of the video, answer is yes lol

[@MrNota500]

What is light multitasking? That's vague and this guy always tells everyone to get more ram and top end cpu's no matter the use case. I mean if you got the money and sitting in front of a PC all day is your life sure why not but most people could use that money for real world things.

[@bobbygeiser8478]

I have multiple monitors, and will have multiple windows open when gaming (discord, firefox/game guides, youtube, etc.) I'm planning on going to school for programming in a year or two so I might just get a 7950x3d in preparation for that

[@bobbygeiser8478]

I also play CPU demanding games (MMOs), so even though I only have a RTX3070 right now I'm still CPU limited at least at times. With my 5600x, games often hitch when something happens on one of the other windows, too.

[@C7TJFVB7CAZ_TyonorShap]

@@bobbygeiser8478 thats what i always said, fully agree, there isnt anything even to disagree ^_^

[@forog1]

Funny thing is in order for 4k gaming is to be worth building towards $300 GPUs need to be able to push them lol. So RTX xx60 or RX x600 class with the performance level of a 4080/7900xtx/4090 is needed. Unless you want to play Skyrim at 4k then a RTX 4060/ RX 7600 can play old games like that at 4k lol.

[@hexacarbide268]

fresh windows install probably wont hurt either. Just saying it can make a big difference

[@StingyGeek]

He should consider waiting for next gen of CPU. Then do the upgrade. Wait 3-4 months after release of the next gen so the early adopter tax goes away a bit. Well, unless peanuts are mining on that cpu....

[@andrewg2536]

Can someone explain, I must be missing something, do the the 7900X 3D and 7950X 3D not park the extra cores when gaming, hence they are only useful for production purposes ?

[@Arejen03]

me on 1080p 24,5inch 144hz, no such struggles for me 🤣

[@cameltoe2573]

finally a question I care about

[@nostrum6410]

multiple monitors have little affect on performance, also lunar lake is not really 16th gen

[@superscuba73]

He needs whatever the top X3D desktop part is with whatever the current top GPU is from now to eternity..

[@yami2828]

😅😅 meanwhile im running 2x 24" 240hz monitor with a rx5600xt and ryzen 5500 😂. Only use one for gaming most times and other to watch YT in the background ao for me its fine

[@justinhogue9861]

Update: 7800x3d is 319$ at microcenter with free ram.

[@jasonkustra5671]

Where can you buy Samsung 9820 2TB for 100 bucks right now??

[@ByteSizeTech]

First, build a Time Machine, next, watch our live streams when they are live!

[@DeadPiixxel]

@@ByteSizeTech third stop being a dick to your subs

[@DeadPiixxel]

@@ByteSizeTech third stop being a but to your subs

[@CirnoBush]

i have no desire for ultra wide, i didn't even want wide, i still play games in 4:3.

[@andrewraven3069]

The 7800x3d is still the fastest gaming cpu for gaming tho in 1440 still is it not tho?

[@TheLordNugget]

I don't entirely agree. Half your recommendations in this are based on assumptions. Is he playing all the "latest and greatest" games or is he just playing Rust and trying to maximize his performance in that one game? He only mentioned Rust. Does he multitask while gaming or does he multitask when not gaming? You made assumptions there. Is he willing to turn down settings to maintain framerate? The assumption that if you have the flagship card that you'll never in your life be willing to play at anything but ultra settings is retarded, yet everybody acts like it's a nationally recognized law. While I do agree that the only way that he's going to see a markedly improved level of performance is a platform upgrade, you lucked into the right answer as depending on what his actual goal was you didn't actually address his issue.

[@kevinfranklin3950]

asud rog 34 ulra wide and asus rog 27 inch with 5800x3d and asus rog 4080 oc and i can play any game i want without issues

[@ironfist7789]

How bout a threadripper ;)

[@JGComments]

How to be happy: set your monitor to 120 Hz. So many fewer frames to render.

[@tminusoftexas3224]

Drop the link on that 980 pro 2tb for 100

[@ByteSizeTech]

Do you have a Time Machine?

[@vanveenmatt]

Is the 5800x3d good enough? My Lord what kind of a consumerist world are we living in now? There's only one generation of CPUs that are newer. That's almost the best chip in the world... Come on people.

[@TheHangarHobbit]

My only complaint would be recommending any i9s considering the massive number of reports of silicon degradation coming to light. I mean when even GPU manufacturers like Nvidia are advising to downclock the i9s to basically i7 levels to get them stable? Something is seriously wrong with those chips. Add to that it's a dead socket while AMD has said AM5 will be supported until at least 2025? Seems like nobody should be buying any i9s until a new socket and the problems are fixed.

[@williamchiawq3747]

BST just keep on telling a lot of ugly truths about PC gaming which at first, very hard to absorb but slowly time will tell. PC gaming is really become crazily expensive. Regardless games are getting "better" or not, but at least so called Triple A titled game graphics will eventually getting better and better. If you are the "I want play the latest games with best settings", your pocket really has to really deep enough to keep up. And don't forget, gamers also chase better display for better image quality From 1080p then slowly 1440p as the new standard and soon 4k will be mainstream. The hardware requirement definitely will raise up like crazy. 3090TI already hard to survive (as top of the line) before 2 gens later going to release, pretty sure 4090 and future 5090 will be even worse. You either stick with old games or just kinda half quit gaming. Or else its pretty much will be a never ending chasing.

[@dianaalyssa8726]

I honestly think I'm sticking with 1440P for gaming but you're correct. There's been upgrade creep for me personally supporting 1440P and playing the latest (which I might be over now tbh) but it's an upgrade slope ending up with a 4090. High resolution and high refresh are addicting truly and the hardware to run them with newer games it's chasing upgrades.

[@williamchiawq3747]

@@dianaalyssa8726 best way always set your own priority, even in games. I never chase latest games, due to too many over and falsely advertised games. So I’m not a big fan on new games. So far the “newer game” I’ve been willing to spend longer time playing only Cyberpunk. So unless there’s a new one of the best in decade, then you build a PC suit for your desire performance in that specific game.

[@AngryChineseWoman]

A 13700k wouldn't be enough ? Or at least a 14700k

[@MrNota500]

It would be a slight improvement depending on the game but those chips are burning up, they are ran right to the limit and degrade fast then you get bsod. Personally I think it's the GPU. The 6950xt is good card but this guy is pushing way too many pixels for it.