The Horrifying & Outrageous Case of Louisa Collins | The Borgia of Botany

[@moviemakerwannabe]

This is very interesting because during the Victorian period arsenic was used in several things including wall paper and clothing. It allowed them to make prettier colors more rich or brighter colors. People who wore the clothing or lived in the homes with the wallpaper often got sick but it was not until later that they realized it was the surroundings and garments that were slowly poisoning them. Even the Queen of England had some of the wallpaper in guest rooms. Some guests got sick very quickly because of the arsenic in the wallpaper. So I wonder, could she have been innocent?

[@qwerkyqwerty5241]

True, but it doesn't seem her or her children suffered with the poison? At least not mentioned in this video.

[@memeju1ce]

i thought so! also isn’t it true that some people are more resistant to arsenic than others? such an interesting case, it’s upsetting that she was killed :(

[@shawnward7659]

Thx4data👍,✌️

[@ladalekoehler2176]

That’s a great piece of information. I never heard of it so thank you for it. These bits of history are great for us history fans.

[@annette2877]

I think she was innocent. And he even said in the video she was out and about all the time and he stayed at home a lot, so he could’ve been subjected to more arsenic than she would’ve. Plus to be tried four times that’s ridiculous! Those prosecutors were just too proud to back off.

[@Ichthus61]

Though the deaths of 2 husbands and a baby in such a short time looks very fishy, having four trials was ridiculous. After the first hung jury, the death penalty should have been off the table. Maybe if the second jury had known Louisa wouldn’t be executed, they would have convicted her but with a long jail sentence. If she were completely innocent (although with 1st husband it seems unlikely), at least she would be alive to perhaps be exonerated by new evidence. I wonder who finished raising those poor children! 😢

[@julzmgrforll7278]

Every thing you touched in the Victorian times had aresenic in it from the clothes to the wallpaper. I think at least a small percentage of people convicted of poisoning someone where innocent

[@renee1961]

Excellent point! Scary thought!🌞🌞🌞

[@kerriganm]

Too true! I’d never thought of it that way before... Brrrr. It also makes me wonder why anyone bothered buying traceable poison, though. Just make a tea from the wallpaper or your socks! Or the paint, or the children’s toys, or...

[@katemajestic9164]

I know there are cases, even in modern times, where the amount found in the body is so small it's hard to call it murder. But honestly, if they find any, BAM! murder. And it's always been that way. The modern case was a woman who's marine husband had died and the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology (AFIP) found arsenic in his body, but different levels in each organ. She was put on trial, but eventually released from suspicion at all because 1 AFIP is not equipped to do forensic testing and 2 arsenic levels do not vary by organ. They just don't. Still, she got convicted and then had to fight to get it overturned (but it eventually was, thank God). There's a snapped episode that covers her case.

[@rabbit0664]

You do have a point. It's a shame they didn't realize it back then.

[@julzmgrforll7278]

@Romanticide yes lead also. They even made children's toys from lead.

[@chariesbrightman9983]

That judge had it out for her from day one. He would keep bringing her back until he got a guilty verdict. They should have disbarred him.

[@christorpher84]

I KNOW IT WAS RACISM

[@thegreatselkie6009]

@@christorpher84 you sound like a woman hater.

[@tasgardener7923]

They were determined to get her one way or the other weren't they? By the fourth trial it sounds as if all that mattered to the prosecution was a conviction with true guilt or innocence becoming irrelevant and they'd get it any way they could. She probably was guilty by the sounds of it but that being said if three separate juries couldn't see enough evidence to convict her one has to wonder. I guess we'll never know for sure. The only person who does is Lousia who took the truth of the matter to her grave. Given it was a such a grey case as to innocence or guilt hanging her was rough.

[@barrymichlowitz1071]

I'm surprised the prosecution didn't show at the first trial that Michael Collins was not exposed to arsenic where he works. That was the source of reasonable doubt. Louisa Collins would surely have been convicted.

[@OGitGirlJess]

Much like how the prosecution works in many cases in the US today; especially those involving the poor (who can not afford adequate lawyers), and those who are not white. Even many in the legal system will tell you; this is sadly the case still in 2020. I was watching Dateline the other day regarding a case about a man who had been wrongly convicted and later exonerated. An expert witness for the defense said something that really stuck with me; “it is extremely said that in this country it more and more seems to be the case that if evidence refuting the guilt of a convicted person is found after the fact (after the government has already convicted them) the thing to do is to just let what is already in place be, save the government an embarrassment, and let the truth fall where it may. 😞😞😒😒😑😑

[@Zentasy72]

I think you would chance your position if Michael Collins was your son.

[@changeintheair9648]

A grave injustice. Yes, justice system back then had to keep face. Perhaps her first husband, but i doubt her 2nd husband and although they tried - her baby died of natural causes. Even then, how do we know her 1st died by killing? I am not convinced and usually in these videos I am convinced.

[@changeintheair9648]

@@OGitGirlJess It's anyone. If the elite want someone to go to prison, it happens. The only ones that do not go to prison are the rich and elite - get slap on the wrist or said innocent. Or some sick wacko who is serial killer. I am being somewhat factious but the law is NOT blind - but very partial and there is 2 tiered justice.

[@jgrimes5353]

Hopefully australia has improved their justice system since. Trying a person 4 times for the same crime is a travesty

[@cruisepaige]

Billy Ray Valentine In many places there is no prohibition on double jeopardy.

Errrr....Hold on....I'll check.....Yes, that point of law has been corrected...however the detection rate is still the worst in the world.....

[@verminted5243]

... since the 19th century? Yeah, I have a feeling the justice system has changed since then. 🥴

[@verminted5243]

@Billy Ray Valentine I'm Australian. My last comment wasn't directed to you, otherwise I'd have tagged you and clearly it was sarcasm, the justice system has been updated since 1800's. Why don't *you* use *your* thinky brain to comprehend language, or are you just that out of touch?

[@taniaearle4457]

@Billy Ray Valentine I live here, it's backwards, no Human Rights, no free press, defamation laws. Same crappy system since criminal colony. Except now Police don't need warrants, citizens lost guns but Police are Militarized. Oh and had one day of sitting Parliament since March. Some States are under Marshall law. Useless people. Oh, and they've watered down their double jeopardy laws, in some States. it's because their Police are useless, worst detectives in existence. Thus the need for retrial. Ought to come here, it's like that Film Idiocacy.

[@annedavis3340]

Why bother having a trial at all if you're going to hang the victim whatever the outcome

[@johneshaholly5410]

Exactly

[@KathyHussey063]

they don't hang you if you're found innocent, so that's the reason for the trial...

[@annedavis3340]

@@KathyHussey063 had you finished the video yet when you commented? I don't want to spoil the ending

[@KathyHussey063]

@@annedavis3340 I listened to whole thing a few weeks ago and was relistening to it over again and scanning the comments, but I'll go listen to end again ( a friend came in while it was ending and then I never heard it this 2nd time all the way to the end). I listen to so many of these I forget who did what lol....so let me go give the ending another go...

[@annedavis3340]

If at first you don't succeed, try, try, try again.

[@Areyousayingidontknowmyname]

This kind of interests me. I have watched enough doco's that mention how prevalent Arsenic was. Especially as around this era it was very fashionable to have the swanky green colour that poisoned a lot of people. They never seemed to mention the police questioning those occasions.

[@mustangnawt1]

1st one where I’ve felt unsure of. Who want to handle all those kids alone...and no life insurance

[@indiciaobscure]

I think she would eventually have finished them off. It seems like a power thing to me, more than money.

[@tomorrowhowever7488]

Some of her children were adults by the time of the trials. Where were they?

[@gailhandschuh1138]

Considering Arsonic was in so many things at the time, it is a huge jump to consider she gave anyone the poison.

[@Margarita70_75]

Sounds like a case of the prosecution determined to succeed no matter what the cost How awful.

[@walterjack7136]

Sound reasoning from margarita mom .

[@resourcedragon]

There were a lot of women who were found guilty of poisoning people with arsenic in the Victorian era. While cases of poisoning still occur, I have difficulty believing that the practice was quite so wide-spread. As the defence noted in this case, there was arsenic in most houses. Apart from rat poison, it was also used to colour paint (lead wasn't the only toxin in paint in the Victorian era) and it occurs naturally. . So even if her first husband's work didn't involve arsenic, it is very likely that he would have been exposed to it. . Many of the guilty verdicts in poisoning cases trouble me and this one definitely has some troubling aspects, not least that this wasn't just double jeopardy, it was quadruple jeopardy and the N.S.W. government kept at it until they got the result that they wanted.

[@barbarat5729]

This was not double jeopaardy.

[@markschwartz1565]

@resourcedragon It was in even used to dye clothes (Scheele's Green) and, remarkably, in cosmetics applied directly to the skin because it can be used to make a dense but luminous white. Accidental arsenic poisoning was pretty common. It was in wall paper and food preservatives too. I wont plug another channel here but if you search "Hidden Killers In The Victorian Home" you can find a pretty good documentary that covers it (by BBC, I think). Even today people consume arsenic in some parts of the world because it gives a superfine complexion. The practice was common in the 18th and 19th centuries, and "Arsenic Complexion Wafers" could be ordered from the 1902 Sear's Catalog. There's lot's of information about it available for anyone who cares to look. It's OK to know things. Really. It's OK.

[@pimpozza]

@@markschwartz1565 Thankyou for that tip, Mark 👍 Just spent an afternoon watching some of their fascinating episodes. Really interesting how the Victorians were living in such "poisonous" homes!!

[@markschwartz1565]

@@pimpozza You're very welcome!

[@sylverscale]

@@pimpozza Right? And not only poisons were a danger, also electricity, gas and other fire hazards, several dangerous appliances that could maim and kill... on top of all of the lead, arsenic, asbestos etc. Amazing that we all came into existence. 😅

[@jetpetty1613]

did they continue to try her until they got the verdict they wanted?

[@TheDavephillips]

Oh yes. They certainly did. A miscarriage if ever I heard of one.

[@LynnCochran71]

I was just scrolling looking for this very comment.. They weren't going to stop until they got the right people in the jury to all say she was guilty.

[@ddaman7854]

How do you find an impartial jury after after 3 previous trials?

[@katemajestic9164]

No. You MUST have a verdict. A hung jury IS NO VERDICT. You cannot close the case until there's a verdict. Yes, repeating trials increases conviction, which is why repeated trials should be relocated to a place that hasn't already formed an opinion, but that they don't do. See Betty Broderick.

[@tomorrowhowever7488]

@@katemajestic9164 Double jeopardy?

[@shannanhallan488]

"If it weren't for bad luck, she'd had no luck at all..."

[@lisahinton9682]

Ummm, she'd HAVE no luck at all. "She'd had no luck at all" does not even make sense. How can so many people upvote this crap??

[@shannanhallan488]

@@lisahinton9682 unenlightened one, it's a quote from a popular blues song from the 1960s. Here is the verbiage from the song, "If it wasn’t for bad luck, I wouldn’t have no luck at all." I changed the pronoun and past tense verbs to fit the story. Now you know.

[@tommymorgan4677]

@@shannanhallan488 I got it.

[@shannanhallan488]

@@tommymorgan4677 Thank you😊

[@kellidean8416]

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[@Sierralovescharles]

Fall asleep to history all the time its so relaxing

[@niceroundbrown]

As soon as o hear “stomach pains” i already know where the story is going 😩😩

[@katewilliams9480]

Thank you for covering an Aussie story. Love the old photos 😊

[@irena4545]

It's entirely ridiculous to claim that she had no motive to kill her second husband just because there would be no financial benefit, and I don't think it was the motive in the first murder, or at least not the main one. She had been in a relationship with Michael, her husband found out and forbade her to ever see him again, after the husband's demise she doesn't mourn and marries Michael... that's not financial motive, that's simply getting rid of an obstacle to be with Michael. Only, the romance probably went sour - either because there is a huge difference between a secret affair and everyday married life, or perhaps he knew she had offed the first husband and might have blamed her for their child's death, or perhaps he grew cold towards her... Either way, the arsenic had proved to be an easy way out, so she resorted to it again. The four trials... it was a mistake to run new trials without new evidence, like the one obtained for the fourth trial.

[@theveganvillainess]

Exactly, it's not always about money.

[@pimpozza]

Very well said, Irena.. I totally agree with you 👍

[@hannahh1691]

Yes agreed! She was 39, he was only 23. Could be that he said something offended or emotionally hurt her!

[@thecompendium9607]

Stupid to kill your only source of income...

[@narsreenjohnson4966]

THERE IS NO PROOF OF THAT AND SHAE COULD HAVE DIVORCED HIM ALSO DIVOCE HER SECOND HUSBAND THERE WAS NO PROOF HER FIRST HUSBAND GOT ENOUGH ARSNIC TO DIE SANYWAY.I FEEL SHE DID NOT HAVE A GOD DEFENCE LAWYER CAUSE SHE COULD NOT AFFORD IT AND SHE WAS INNOCENT.THEY ALSO DID NOT FIND ANYTHING WRONG WITH THE BABY COULD HAVE DIED OF SIDS.IF BUB WAS STRANGLED THEY WOULD HAVE KNOWN AND SHE GAINED NOTHIBG FROM IT COULD HAVE HAD MUCHHOUSANDS DE PROXI THOUGH THAT THOUGH CAME TO ME BUT AGAIN NEEDS TO BE PROVED

[@Presca1]

I've never heard of someone being prosecuted so many times...holy!

[@tilagonzales4507]

Yo I have one four month old baby I'm exhausted af. How did this lady even get up after that many pregnancies??

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I bet you'd would

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@@timothygreve7720 you’d would Nice 👍

[@kimsherlock8969]

The Dr was amazingly thorough for this period.

[@unappreciatedtrap_queen7787]

My first job was on Botany Rd. I used to wonder if the sidewalk could talk, how far back could it speak of. Such is my love of history and anything within the absurdly intriguing mindset of our ancestors sociopathic tendencies! Thanks for the upload Brief Case. Much appreciated .

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BC wasn't around in the 70's, otherwise I'm sure Garfield would have had a different perspective on Mondays too🌝

[@renee1961]

That's too funny!

[@lazyhomebody1356]

Don't get mad, but Mondays is just spelled mondays. No need to capitalize it or put an apostrophe

[@barbarat5729]

@@lazyhomebody1356 Monday is a proper noun and should be capitalized. The apostrophe is unnecessary for a plural. It makes Monday a possessive instead of a plural. You are welcome.......from the English teacher.

[@lazyhomebody1356]

@@barbarat5729 I SAID the whole part about the apostrophe, thank you! I must have not gotten enough sleep- I do capitalize the days of the week.

[@giselastrauss8434]

It is clear the law wanted to get her no matter what.Had she been able to pay a good defence this would not have been the case.!!!!! The double morality of victorian times ( also in Australia) judged her behavior,not so much the crime.Guilty or not this is outragious!!!! Thank you for once again a great video

[@Zentasy72]

You'd change your stance if Michael was your son.

[@Delicious_J]

May I remind you that this woman is a murderer? Why is it that when women kill, everyone makes literally any crazy excuse to absolve them?

[@emokid732]

@@Delicious_J bro this bitch was for the streets, his mistake was trying to changer her, forcing her into a role in life she didn't want...his only crime was loving a person who wasn't real...men do this shit all the time..just becuse a bitch pretty dosent make her personality pretty.....he should have just settled for an ugly bitch with a good heart, but no..he saw a pretty face and nice ass then played make believe with the rest..he's 30% responsible for what happened next..the old saying goes..when someone shows you who they are..belive them...man saw some tits and ass and lost all reason

[@KuriaSecunda]

@Billy Ray Valentine You have no idea how the justice system works, do you? Even today such circumstantial evidence, without clear motive or direct link to the poison, wouldn't have held up in court, especially when 3 separate trials within such a short amount of time found it inadequate for a conviction. Certainly it would not have warranted the death penalty. "Beyond reasonable doubt" exists for a reason. To use you whingers' own tactic: if the genders were reversed in this case, you lot would be crying about how it's oh so unfair for men and people kept trying the defendant just because they wanted him found guilty smh

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Thanks Brief Case, had to wait all day to listen to this one as my husband wants to listen as well.

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Brief Case oh dear, my bad, of course I know the difference.....so sorry but I have wait for him for both channels. I found CR from this channel.....please forgive me....pretty please...no insult intended

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@@dawnmarie9110 I forgive you Dawn, lol lol its TCR here

[@CrazyLady-NoCats]

The jury overheard her say “I’d rather die than sit through a 5th trial”

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[@jennifermcdonald5432]

There were no regulations for chemists back then, and MANY shops sold pills, tablets, suppositories ect with arsenic in, as they believed in was good for you in tiny doses. It was claimed it would fix just about anything, from back pain to depression.

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[@swedishpiggi]

Oh my! They were stubborn to get her judge guilty right? This was very unfair... Hugs from Sweden

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Hugs from Washington state USA !

[@swedishpiggi]

@@walterjack7136 Thank You Sir :)

[@walterjack7136]

Piggi Nelson, A long time ago I was stationed in Germany for the army and I always wanted to visit Sweden , but never got to go there. The Swedish people are very special. Stay safe.

[@swedishpiggi]

@@walterjack7136 Are Swedish people very special? Is that in a good way or a bad way lol. I thank you anyway, and I hope you one day visit Sweden You stay safe too.

[@walterjack7136]

In a good way, of course !

[@Niac022]

Well if the papers reported enough of the evidence enough times, and you try someone enough times you will eventually get the result you want.

[@Lisa-hc3uq]

Wow, this is the first of all your videos I have watched, that in my opinion, the accused may be innocent. So many unanswered questions. Back then, divorce was probably not on the table so murdering your spouse was the only way out. If she was desperate enough to get rid of her first husband for love, insurance payoff wouldn't matter to her. There was no clear cut evidence against her for a guilty verdict 3 times. (It was obvious by how many trials there were) Prosecutors wouldn't let this one go..perhaps they knew more about the cases at the time than we do and did everything possible to seek justice. As for the death of her baby, that very well could've been from natural causes as the death rate for babies was pretty high at the time of the childs death. Once again, a great thought provoking story Briefcase! Per usual, well done! Thank you 🙂

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Good Morning, Brief Case! From Long Island, NY.

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[@Elke-j8m]

Great presentation BCase. Always love the picture images on your videos. Thank you for this disturbing story.

[@Elke-j8m]

As you know, i was working. Did enjoy listen to you. You had 12 ads. Will relisten as always, day off tomorrow! Have good evening.

[@katemajestic9164]

Just to note: Yes , this case was about arsenic, but that is not the only poison that causes those gastro-intestinal horrors. Thallium does too. In fact, in Australia thallium was used as a rat killer most successfully in the 1960s (or thereabouts). Caroline Grills killed so many ppl with it, she became known in prison as "Aunt Thally" (brief case, if you haven't covered that one, it's a goody). It was not as prevalent as arsenic, but the only difference in the effect is that thallium makes you lose your hair.

[@JudeNance]

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[@Survivor58]

My goodness. From November 1888 to January 1889, 4 trials then the death sentence was carried out. Wow! While money is saved the innocent have no chance to prove their case. Thank you BC. I honestly cannot say whether she guilty or not. ☹️

[@christorpher84]

WAY TO GO THEY DIDN'T BELIEVE IN TAKING CARE OF THIS LOW LIFE BIMBO FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS

[@rachelcaullay172]

Really enjoy your channel Brief Case. Look forward to many more,also remembering the poor everyday souls that are otherwise forgotten.

[@katietrongogo]

Where do you get most of your research and case ideas? As a prior history major I’d be really interested to know your sources!!

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Hello, I do list the sources - Thanks :)

[@johnnyallenshaneprater4870]

I always look at the sources! They have a little more info in them. Like they called the executioner that hung her "Nosey bob the hangman" cause his face was disfigured from. Being kicked by a horse. His nose was like gone...

[@meemurthelemur4811]

@@johnnyallenshaneprater4870 that pic was pretty gruesome. So was the description of Louisa's hanging.

[@sandic3892]

I just love this channel and these older cases! Thank you for your work!

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Hey briefcase hope your ok another great video to watch im from Birmingham UK haha oh god x

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Thankyou so much :)

[@lolol35149]

Maybe the kids did it... anyone ever think of that 🤔.. poor Louisa.

[@nicolevarnam2290]

Thank U So Much BC! Awesome Video as Usual❤🤘💙😉

[@brendaholliday6866]

This is a very interesting and fascinating story about how the criminal justice system works in regards to a murder case of which there's "doubt" as to whether or not it was murder. Louisa Andrews Collins, probably had motive for the murder of her first husband but it's questionable about motive for her second husband, to me. Four trials is beyond what was necessary to either convict or acquit, period! Great investigation of this story.

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I really love your work. Every episode amazes me. It's always been a crazy world. I'm reminded every time I watch.

[@dianeclarke3763]

Did she or didn’t she? I don’t think she did... plenty of reasonable doubt. Great as always brief case 👍🏼👍🏼

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I’ve been going to bed while listening to this channel for so long that now when I start one I can’t ever finish it because I’m instantly relaxed by his voice. It’s been wonderful until recently and now I dream about murder every night 😩 and I have super vivid dreams that I always remember. But I’m still choosing murder dreams over insomnia with no Brief Case at the moment.

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Sorry, definitely better to dream of something else

[@The_Custos]

Not the first time juries have been told they have the wrong verdict in Australia. Even cases where juries have refused to find a defendant guilty, there are ways and means.

[@louisegross3886]

Many men want to court her lawd in todays world woof woof

[@kcbh24]

A horrifying AND outrageous case?! AND she's the Borgia of Botany? This one must be good! Thanks for the quality and consistency, Brief Case.

[@moviemeows4466]

So, the first husband died just two months after she got pregnant with her lover? Sounds way too convenient to me. I think she feared the consequences of him finding out and killed him before he could. That was the motive, not insurance money. I am not so sure about the death of the second husband though. He too expected the same thing of her after the wedding as her first husband and she wanted to be free?

[@theburrowrises8549]

She probably married Michael because being a widow is better than being an unwed mother at that time. She could off him any time after they married.

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[@littlereddstar5264]

7 am Monday: Brief Case and medicine. After BC video ends : Back to bed to ponder how these “old cases” are still so relevant... Because people are committing the same crimes decades/100 years later. Cause you know there’s “Louisa’s” all over the world doing the same thing now...

[@kimberlypatton9634]

People seem to sometimes basically continue to wear the "same old socks" no matter what space in time it is....like my mother used to say, " Leopards don't change their spots!"

[@moonlightfalcon7038]

I invite you to read up on the Vallow-Daybell Case! Those two needs a short drop and a sudden stop!

[@lazyhomebody1356]

On the upside, humans are much kinder to animals today

[@katemajestic9164]

Murder doesn't change. Jealousy, greed, revenge. There really are no other motives.

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Thanks, You too :)

[@TheCat72850]

Although she may have killed her 1st husband, don’t think she killed her second. Sorry for the kids.

[@anonymousbosch9035]

What a mess. A very interesting case, BC. Thanks for the excellent Monday morning coffee break! Hope everyone out there has a great week! 😃😷😁

[@danaott2849]

Hope you have a Great week, also..😊

[@kimberlypatton9634]

Now...a Monday that's perfect ! Wishing my dear Briefcase and all my lovely wonderful BC family continued health , perseverance, patience and the best week ever! It is entirely possible that one of her older children held a resentment or felt the need to vindicate the death (murder ) of their father...possibly having felt obligated to exact revenge upon her for their fathers killing and punish her shameful behavior by "removing" the man and child who were perceived as having brought about the destruction of the family.??

[@PotatoTrain]

Another fabulous video! Amazing, thanks Brief Case.

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[@thejudgmentalcat]

She was framed for being a "loose" woman.

[@johneshaholly5410]

Basically

[@lovelessissimo]

After nine kids, I don't think she had anything that would be described as "tight".

[@XxWolf_Lov4rxX]

@@lovelessissimo 😲

[@kevinpotts123]

Between Brief Case and 2x uploads a week from @TheCrimeReel, my weeks are so much better. I love your's and his channels so much.

[@MariseLoureiro]

And no one, not for a minute, considered the fate of the kids now left with no parents.

[@torachan23]

Louisa didn’t even care about her children, why should others?

[@mordecintherigbys2185]

On a Monday, time to open my brief case love they videos and its right on time. Thank you

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thanks :)

[@jamestnov41945]

I have looked at Australian justice system and I am not impressed by it. This case speaks volumes about the Male dominated system.

[@taniaearle4457]

It's utter crap, no Human Rights etc Police just as misjonsitic as the citizens.

[@karennash9081]

I'm Australian. You re right!! Legal system sucked then and still does.

[@muffassa6739]

I love this series keep up the good work 💓

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thankyou

[@micheleD498]

Hmm I think she was innocent. Yes, she missed the good old days of being single but she had no motive to poison her husband. Great case as always BC!!

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thanks :)

[@tomhirons7475]

its shady, 4 trials

[@kellylewisfischer181]

I think you're right that she wasn't guilty. She had motive to kill the first husband. A couple of them. But let's be honest she was looking back with regrets but she had what 7 or 8 kids? I think she knew she couldn't do that alone. She was already seeing the second guy. And the second guy there was definitely no good motive. I think it became a huge case and the prosecution had to prove a point. Certainly the human rights standards were not the same back then.

[@janinedear-barlow]

Especially with 7 children. She needed her husband to work to support them all.

[@caroliner2029]

@@janinedear-barlow I agree.

[@nancyM1313]

Great presentation Brief Case💼 Hope you have a lovely week ahead. Stay safe/healthy & HAPPY🙂

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thank you, You too :)

[@code-52]

I think her motive for killing her second husband was he was a witness to her killing her first husband.

[@niklasl3880]

Was he, though? He wasn't in the house any more by the time the first one died.

[@annaellem2344]

Perhaps he was upset that his child died and poisoned himself

[@code-52]

@@annaellem2344 It's much more likely that a man would shoot himself than poison himself.

[@sharonmundy9945]

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[@juliespeechly6803]

Thanks Brief Case, another gem. You make my Mondays

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thanks :)

[@Neverending1]

Early. Ready to get my solving on.

[@chab1rd155]

Thanks BC! A great job as usual! 👍😊

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thanks :)

[@stewartmeetball3417]

So many evil/sick people.

[@reneedennis2011]

Yup. I agree!

[@quanbrooklynkid7776]

Including the females who are defending her

[@marcelmoreau2733]

All those lawyers harrasing a woman and blackmailing/threatening her son into changing his testimony.

[@pimpozza]

Wonderful creepy vid! Great job, as always.. Thankyou, Brief Case 👍😱

[@leeneufeld4140]

Wow, we're gonna keep retrying her till we get what we want. The very definition of malicious prosecution.

[@kenzielister3636]

Thanks for all you do. Great cases, puts you right there in the moment with these people.

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thankyou so much :)

[@cadillacdeville5828]

I'm 6 minutes late but DEFINITELY could not miss this. 🥰🥰🥰🥰

[@katem5889]

Just want to say thank you Brief Case - love your videos and you make my working day so much more interesting. Great work!

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thankyou

[@sheilayoung8007]

Wow!! Seems like such a miscarriage of justice, four trials three hung juries, seems like a prosecutor had something to prove. Most these cases I can usually say, yes they probably did it, however, not so sure on this one. Thanks Brief Case for another great story!

[@joroche2948]

I love true crime , especially the cases before forensics and learning about how they solved the cases . Your channel is great , I am going through all of your videos I love them

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thankyou :)

[@NelsonStJames]

To be fair the young woman was forced into a situation nobody should have had to endure.

[@margaretmcguigan1675]

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[@xoxozozoxoxo559]

Thanks for another great video!

[@jessicafain6630]

Wow! I have to say that an innocent woman might have been hanged. All the evidence was extremely circumstantial. And it was abundantly evident that the prosecution had it out for her. I don't know if she was guilty or not, but I can certainly see why there were three hung juries. Case, you always make Mondays tolerable, and for that I thank you. 💜🖤💜

[@elizabethferrier6429]

Thank you as always BC. Look forward to hearing from you with more interesting cases.

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thankyou :)

[@theveganvillainess]

There shouldn't have been four trials, I'm glad we have laws against that sort of thing these days. I think maybe she did it though considering all the suspicious deaths that surrounded her.

[@angelatheriault8855]

They can retry you as many times as the prosecution wants to in the United States because of a hung jury. They most likely will stop after two or three tries though because of the expense and the the diminishing possibility of a conviction.

[@katemajestic9164]

They have to either retry you or drop the charges. If they think they have enough to take it to trial, they're going to be ruthless in the second trial. They don't like dropping the charges because they believed the defendant was guilty enough to put them on trial in the first place.

[@MrRoverman01]

Good morning. Today's case is very interesting. Not sure what to make of it. Very understandable that people would be split on whether or not she was guilty.

[@YourNeshaness]

Man, if there were some Bailey Sarian fans in here, I know they’d say it was Aqua Tafonaaaa😭😭😭

[@sammyw7301]

Suspish

[@Svvithred]

Another intriguing, yet very dark case! Awesome as always! 👍👍👍

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thanks :)

[@tamaracalderon3184]

Me: ugh, Monday (Sees notification) Happy Me: woohoo! Monday! 😜😜😜😆😆😆☺☺😁😁

[@lazyhomebody1356]

Why is it that happens to me every single Monday? I never remember- it's always a happy surprise

[@GriffithsJacqueline]

They were very intent on finding her guilty. I've never heard of 4 trials. Great work as usual. Thank you.

[@gardenwarrior4219]

Beauty sure was different back then.

[@louniece1650]

😂

[@grapeshot]

Yes the bar seems to have been set pretty low.

[@stasiamia12]

Beauty killed the curious cat

[@PotatoTrain]

She'd had 10 kids at this point. Her shine would've faded, and I can understand why.

[@craigm2484]

I havta agree she kinda looks like a dude in that photo.

[@muffykneidinger5941]

The Borgia of Botany is the greatest subtitle I have seen in MANY moons! Take a bow! 🌛🐾

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thankyou so much :)

[@shelliesmith999]

That is so wrong. 😭

[@vannem2688]

Love your channel. It’s my favorite. I love to hear about older stories!

[@BriefCaseOfficial]

Thankyou so much :)