Brignole DIFFERNCE BETWEEN FATS AND CARBS

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Doug and Ric discuss the difference between eating fats and carbs for muscle growth and fat loss in bodybuilding, fitness and every day life

[@maikoosterhuis6638]

The human body doesn't need much carbs, only to refill your glycogen when needed. Using fats as energysource and the protein will build the muscle.

[@talamantezfamily3123]

My body was so used to having high carbs for strength. But felt a little bloated with a little tummy🙃. It was hard to listen to Rics Diet but i thought to my self i want to look like they did in past not present so did it(high protein with healthy fats low carbs) im telling u my body took a few weeks to get use to it but now my body has adjusted to depending on fats instead of carbs now my stomach is flat😀 Thanks Ric!!(eat more eggs bacon and cottage cheese) fats will give u so much energy and u will feel great give it a try.

[@LeeDaHitman]

R.I.P to both of these gentlemen 🙏🏾

[@SquatFull]

Thanks for the compliments on my conditioning which I attribute to my ketogenic diet. The low carbs has not been detrimental to my muscle mass except looking flat due to the low levels of muscle glycogen and the water associated with holding glycogen.

[@RapidCycling07]

Its amazing how different people's beliefs can be. In this case, being the HCLF vs LCHF topic. Personally, I think LCHF makes the most sense because low insulin is crucial for fat loss and to heal (or prevent) so many health conditions that largely stem from insulin resistance. High Cholesterol and High Saturated Fat/Monounsaturated Fat while eating very low carb (except for maybe low carb vegetables) are helpful in building up your Testosterone levels, which should then help with building more muscle/losing more fat (which then should lead to more of the same). Obviously, if you have good genetics (no insulin resistance/naturally high testosterone levels) you won't really need this extra boost and can probably get away with more carbs/lower fats, but can you imagine the possibilities if you ate in a way to increase your testosterone naturally even further?! Obese people who follow advice that says to eat carbs, multiple meals and to cut calories, might lose weight temporarily but there metabolism is likely to get slaughtered. Obese people need to be in Ketosis = Fat Burning Mode. Of course intermittent fasting should be incorporated. Calorie cutting IMO should only be done when in Ketosis, otherwise your metabolism may slow down to compensate for the lower caloric consumption. When in ketosis your body is likely to take what it needs from your excess body fat, therefore not needing to slow down your metabolism. Otherwise everyone who does extended fasting would gain a lot of fat when done fasting, which I don't think really happens as long as your diet is controlled and ketogenic. PEACE! lol jk!

[@tommyharris5817]

"their"

[@JudgeCraven]

Doug seems to operate on the assumption that what works anecdotally for him is scientific fact. Different thing work for different people, and many people bloat eating as much carbs as he claims to eat.

[@rhok9007]

"All I can say is that it doesnt work for everybody" --- well said Doug , a voice of reason

[@ajazahmed3694]

Great advice again about carbs ,I’m cutting carbs out .

[@stephenmarklay]

Doug is Awesome. However, I am not sure EVERYONE does best on carbohydrates all the time. I kind of like the 70’s meat and veggies diet. Dr. Mauro Di Pasquale set a lot of powerlifting records on such diet and really showed that not only is if possible but better (in some ways).

[@uptownhoya9262]

Doug Brignole's book needs to be out on shelves already so people can be educated on the biomechanics of lifting weights! It's shocking on how many KZbin fitness gurus have no knowledge of this! They're completely unaware of the useful knowledge that is presented in your videos with Doug. They also should be watching your videos with Jerry Brainum, who is an absolute genius in regards to the bodybuilding diet and the supplements involved in it.

[@Zads001]

A couple of things. If you are trying to become a body builder you are going to need a certain level of good carbs, however if you are in a different sport, not trying to gain muscle mass, or a general member of the public trying to lose weight then you don't need the carbs everyday (btw there isnt anything wrong with carbs), however allot depends on hormones, body type, metabolism, levels of insulin , etc. Also reducing the sugar intake (especially when eating a junk meal like pizza) is paramount.

[@james197091]

After a workout you do not need carbs and glucose if you are fat adapted and keto, you burn fat which is more efficient than glucose

[@simplesimon9349]

Thanks guys. Awesome content. You make so much sense.

[@krijnnl]

Clarence Bass. I remember he wrote a booklet in the eighties named ripped or so. Funny story about that. A guy asked Bertil Fox what he thought about Clarence. The answer was; " he make me laugh" Basically the only thing, with all respect, the man had were abs….People get so confused these days and everybody wants a piece of the cake. Money. Chicken and rice. How simple can it be. bertil fox in his early days was a tram car driver at the time eating 30 eggs a day…...I tried it also, but gave up . Eating should , like training be fun. After 42 years in this game I have yet to discover one secret. When it comes down to "knowledge" (to know how) nobody really "knows" I always notice when the experts find it hard to give an answer to a somewhat difficult question it is:"everybody is different or he/she has the genetics", but you are doing a great job Ric with this channel. It brings back so many memories.

[@MarcusAllen624]

Doug Brignole has changed the entire why I train! I can listen to him all day long!! Keep adding vids with him in it!!

[@victoriafisher9862]

Love this Ric!!! Thank you for inspiring me when I'm tired and the guests are very intelligent. Thanks Guys!!!

[@jomon723]

That is such BS, Ric even said that in the old days it was all low carb, Hi Protein and Fat"

[@jjjuhg]

No BS , the ketogenic diet makes you lose muscles. 70% of calories from fat...Both agreed is not working, but its good for a while, 1 or 2 months, you will lose fat because of low insulin that comes from zero carb diet. But : ketogenic is a diet that needs changing- back to carbs for a week, or keto 5 days, then 3 days back to moderate carb...it doesn t matter how many days...But keto will make majority of people lose muscle sooner or later. Moderate carb is not keto anymore, no matter how much fat you eat.

[@mageguy3]

creative media what about that kid that plays soccer he does keto year round. Maintains low bf while muscular.

[@skullcrackers187]

Carbs or fat. Pick one not both 🤷‍♂️

[@jon8481]

Ric is a lot more knowledgeable then the other guy. The other guys thoughts is all over the place

[@FreedoomRock]

Always informative to hear both you guys

[@shanollie2864]

I wanna hear the guy on the right talk without being interrupted

[@akhil1753]

The reason the golden era still built a reasonable muscle mass compared even though being in a low carb diet is because they were in a surplus. Even if it was high fat high protein.

[@bluejones9088]

Great show as always...love when he's on your show

[@MDC885]

If we're doing low carb and high fat, then should we or should we not consume carbs after lifting? And if we should, how much?

[@alancameron6937]

M C yes, 40-100gms high glycemic carbs, dextrose, post workout, uptake peaks within 2 hours post workout,

[@JoeCiliberto]

never discussed slow carbs in vegetables versus fast carbs in rice, potatoes, flour, etc. No talk on Gly Load either. Did not discuss ketosis. Thirst comes long after your body needs hydration. Did not discuss glycation or gluconeogenesis. I appreciated the discussion but it seemed to prescribe that a balanced meal, based on the food pyramid was ideal for folks who work out (mix of resistance and cardio exercise) and for deal health. I've not found that to be true at all.

[@_Only_Zuul]

say if your optimum protein intake was about 150g per day and you were over consuming protein by about 100g, how much would convert to glucose? would that be dependent on activity level and how much protein your body needs on a given day?

[@warrenrae32]

I have a manual job active all day. If I cut calories and carbs I start to put on weight if I eat high carb 3 solid meals a day I start to lose weight. Maybe this is due low carb and low calorie diets I’ve done in the past causing my metabolism to react that way.

[@kbderek610]

I like dieting on fats. I'm more full and getting stronger and losing weignt

[@greenmile66]

If you do cardio after your weighttraining, do you take in quick carbs after the cardio?

[@1213141516171897]

Hey ric Great videi as allways, what kind of diet do you recommend for an 18 year old who wants to make lean gains, not getting fat in the process? still low carb?

[@neroma]

Ric is right! High-fat low-carb works!

[@antb3334]

neroma so does high carb moderate fat moderate protein ;)

[@amazingme1408]

so does fat carb protein 33 33 33

[@JaronPope]

I prefer high fat high carb, zero protein

[@patrickemmerechts6054]

Not for every one.

[@richardsannasardo4026]

@Scotland1908 I have never juiced,and I thrive on low carb. My body simply can not go to the next level when eating carbs. I have a small waist and a fairly wide V shape back. I also have developed calves and forearms and a full 6 pack with obliques. That is not happening on 150 grams of carbs a day.

[@ajazahmed3694]

I eat them after training carbs

[@marksolstafir]

Hi Ric, could you do a video on the methods of whey extractions and how the affect the quality of protein and the content of vital micro-fractions? It would be great if you or one of your guest could explain this in detail. Thanks!

[@TruthTraining1130]

This was the worst information I've heard from this other guy.. CARBS to lose weight? 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@neil0071000]

Great video guys , I think it's time you two guys take a camera to golds gym and film a video series and I guarantee you will get millions of views

[@steveadamski7846]

Neal why

[@pablo9364]

Look at Kyle hunt for real expert nutrition advice.

[@Bodyknowledge77]

I've been using honey recently myself post workout(with some whey).It's more health promoting then Gatorade etc. Perhaps not perfect for all for body composition but for a good overall balance of aesthetics, wellness, and performance is the nutritional breakdown of 60% carbs 25% protein 15%

[@aestheticswilliams6858]

I am working on my diet right now (as I am not lifting I am post surgery two weeks) so I am going too have too use a more normal diet while I heal.

[@Dalleo19]

great video guys

[@bodybuilder718]

Guys stop this...this keto shit or this pure fruit shit or just smoothie diets....guys...guys...we NEED IT ALL. Have a balance or greens, fruits and meats. That is all. Ric even said that on sundays he would eat like a pig bc not having carbs would deprive him. A balance diet is what is needed. Good carbs, proteins and some greens. Just cut completey or barely have processed sugar, sodas...candies and processed chocolate. Besides that, weight train, some good cardio for good heart health and you will be fine. Stop making this shit like rocket science.

[@jancelconroy4720]

it's been a while since doug has talked about writing his book on biomechanics. is almost done with that by the way

[@mikeotren6741]

Rick any view on the tanning Peptides? They have come along way

[@Kane6676]

Doug is a genetically small guy. He can eat carbs and get away with it. If you are a genetically fat endomorph, carbs will simply make you fat. I wish I could eat carbs but cannot. Even in small portions they just feed gut fat

[@princekiki33]

What if you have problems with your digestion system wouldnt low carbs make that worse

[@TheRogueMonk]

after i was 22 then i and the world started to understand the difference between foods... before that i thought this would make strong or that owuld not make me strong ... we didnt have much knowledge about what the macro nutrients were ... so we ate like very bad and we trained 3 hours everyday lol so we over trained and under eated no wonder we got fat or not mascular.

[@coachpaul-vedicfitness]

great talk, doug's always great

[@Mecanotech]

in my culture is normal to eat white rice at least 2 times a day

[@rmsolympic1]

Question: can you or can you not build strength using fats for fuel, or are carbs absolutely essential for building strength?

[@Gianluca33672]

+rmsolympic1 unless you are not on steroid carbs are essential to build size and strength, on high fat you will maintain muscle but not build

[@ricdrasin]

+gianluca bonetti I don't know where you get your info but Doug and I have lived this life and trained with the best over 50 years so I think we know what we're talking about

[@Gianluca33672]

+ric drasin hey Ric sorry for the misunderstood reply of mine, your channel is my favorite and I follow very much people like Doug or Jerry Brainum that thank you I got to know though it. Carbs are essential for growth like Doug I believe was saying in the video, my info really comes by following Doug Brignole and Jerry reading plus also the education I m receiving through a well known fitness school, based on medical research, says carbs are essential especially for bodybuilders and endurance athletes......Jerry Brainum in his news letter talks about it as well

[@ricdrasin]

+gianluca bonetti Yes they are essential but if you want to drop bodyfat, that's the best way and increase fats for energy...That's what we did inthe golden era

[@Gianluca33672]

+ric drasin I'm 100% with u Ric

[@TheRogueMonk]

can you talk about what you use ric? what hardware do you use for drawing on photo shop? and share a little bit about your artistic background ?

[@ricdrasin]

+Shadow Heart I use Final cut for editing, photoshop for graphics... I have a background in art, cartooning, air brush, silk screen, tattooing and it goes on from there

[@TheRogueMonk]

ric drasin wow tattoing also? i draw a little but it was broken because of my life situation and all... i have gained so much by being an artist .

[@TheRogueMonk]

EdmundMatthewsTVOW ric has been such a great guy! i would love to LIVE lol not lie with ric and recieve life experiene ... and i dont mean sex lol

[@ajazahmed3694]

I’m eating vegetables cutting carbs out

[@bradfordmcdermott2063]

I think it depends...if your maintaining or bulking then yeah you need carbs. but if your cutting ketosis is the way to go like you guys did in 70s high protien and high fats low carb with high carb day every 4 to 5 days. its been working for me losing fat. but im also using tren enanthate from my doctor at wellness fitness nutrition which helped me alot. I recommend them to everyone who asks me to lean out or bulk. wfn is a great company

[@ajazahmed3694]

To much carbs bring sugars up

[@tomtraynor5384]

Lost me at: "Your going to lose ALL your muscle, your are going ya get hypoglycemia, you are....." Lost me! Patent bullshit. Isn't there enough media bullshit right now? 20-30 carbs a day here. Never been so shredded. At age 61. Doing this stuff since 1975. Fitness coach since 1994. Been Low-carb without any fat burners at all for a change--was a revelation. Suit yourselves, though. But his absolute fallacies are turning me OFF Rick's site.

[@markeesgill5459]

How many days a week did you have 20-30 carbs

[@tomtraynor5384]

@@markeesgill5459 Most every day.

[@markeesgill5459]

@@tomtraynor5384 ok I’m a skinny guy and wanted to put on muscle. And didn’t know if this will work for me

[@markeesgill5459]

@@tomtraynor5384 should I eat more carbs or so the 20-30 grams of carbs and eat more protein and fats I weigh 154 pounds

[@markeesgill5459]

@@tomtraynor5384 also should I eat carbs before I workout or protein thanks 🙏

[@hippo-potamus]

Doug whats the ETA on your book!?

[@gwl78]

Poor ric can't get a word in edgeways.

[@shanollie2864]

right

[@ronherrera6651]

Clarence Bass 30 years ago had a book called Ripped. It was more of a low calorie diet not a high fat diet. Clarence at that time achieved a 3% body fat index.

[@romanhernz9209]

Eat the right carbs not the junk.....eat the right fats....chia seeds, flax seeds, hemps seeds....animal fats contains lots of cholesterol.....cardio vascular, cancers, blood thinners, Etc

[@adamtrew8106]

You’ve been lied to. Animal fats are good for you. It doesn’t cause cancer.... Humans have been eating animals since day 1 and no cancer... cancer was non existent before 1960... don’t fall for the brainwashing.

[@darkclaw8959]

Animal fats dont contain blood thinners, wtf? I would of died eating chicken, tuna, and burgers while on coumadin and lovenox if that were the case, Roman has no idea what so ever wtf he is talking about

[@hawaiidispenser]

The video thumbnail should be of you two, not some useless pic of a woman eating a salad.

[@trbossdoggy]

+hawaiidispenser its already two of them

[@hawaiidispenser]

+STRATMAN firdaus I don't recall any sweater meat, but it looks like they changed the thumbnail already. They point was that I almost bypassed their video on my subscription feed because on glance it just looked like some generic health BS video and not wisdom from the great Drasin & Brignole.

[@chrisparker6421]

Ugg my comment got deleted, you guys are trying to find optimal nutrition right? Using science based facts to find the best diet, is the best way to do this, is it not? Nutritionfacts channel is a great resource for eating correctly. Please don't delete this, I'm not affiliated with the channel, I just want to pass this information out to body builders.

[@Smradac]

Carbs are`t necessary. I`ve been doing ketogenic diet(

[@p.2daL]

carbs = glucose = energy. fat for hormones regulation protein for LBM each have their own important functions. Just because you follow a keto diet according to your lifestyle choices, doesn't mean its optimal.

[@Smradac]

+P. 2DaL just because you eat carbs it doesn't nean that's the only source of energy. I just pointed out,that there are many different diets. Saying that one is ultimate is,well,silly. People need to choose what fits their goals and more importantly health best. :)

[@p.2daL]

+Lord Belial never said its the only source. but it is the most efficient source of glucose which required for energy. notice how ur lifts go up after a refeed day. thats cuz of increase in carbs, which also regulates leptin. also, it sparks a "woosh effect" which is nothing but emptying of fat cells on receiving signal from the body that it doesnt need to hold on to water weight due to high cortisol levels. also, "diet" fits 20th century ideology. its quite outdated. think nutrition. the most effective and sustainable nutritional stance is which has minimal impact/change when incorporated while dealing with real world norms. examine.com/blog/really-low-fat-vs-somewhat-lower-carb/?Examine.com+Insiders&Lower_cab_vs_low_fat8_17_2015&goal=0_e4d662cb1b-40d5e9d05d-70208569&mc_cid=40d5e9d05d&mc_eid=368fcc0a19 cals in vs cals out. period.

[@Smradac]

+P. 2DaL my personal experience is,that my lifts go up every time i decrease my caloric deficit(up my calories in general). And i never cycle carbs.Even when i up my carbs,it's still under 50g a day. :) Diet is a word,just like any other. For me,it is a lifestyle,a way of eating. There is no time frame attached to it. But yeah,i will play a bit with TKD and ingest most of my daily carbs(in form of simple sugars) prior to my workout,just to see what happens.

[@p.2daL]

+Lord Belial good luck! peace.

[@Delmarfamily]

Hi Ric im trying to cut now i was 89 and i went up to 103kg but im really confused on the diet now im currently doing a diet with only 50g of carbs a day and i added some fats from avocado and nuts also salmon plus a lot of protein but im feeling extremely hungry and weak should i continue or not?

[@ricdrasin]

Probably just need to eat more food

[@Shirohige33]

Steroid free is extremely difficult to build quality muscle.The thing that is TOTALLY impossible is that without carbohydrates your performance will suck BIG TIME.Cutting a whole macronutrient from your diet and this specific macronutrient happens to be the best energy source that your body is CONSTANTLY every second trying to find in order to function perfectly is a horrible strategy especially for bodybuilders and athletes.Fats yeah they provide energy and the truth is that they are more energy DENSE in matters of ATP production compairing with carbs BUT.Fats get burned MUCH SLOWER than carbs cause they need 7 TIMES MORE OXYGEN in order to get burned.Even MCT from palm and or coconut cannot win the carbs in matters of energy.Carbohydrates are HIGHLY EXPLOSIVE SOURCE of energy.Its like compairing KEROSENE that airplanes use (thats the carbs) with petroleum (thats the fats) when you need energy especially in ANAEROBIC activity you need it NOW not tomorrow.And of course carbs are highly anabolic cause they have the relationship with insulin and also many carbohydrate foods are also extremely health and loaded with protein minerals fiber and other phytochemicals and micronutrients.Of course i'm talking about the quality carbohydrates not doughnuts and french fries.Fat is ok for LOW INTENSITY activities NOT FOR HIGH.Fat has other reasons for the human body (hormone production,some vitamin absorbance,thermoregulation,health of nails and hair and some others).Saturated fats in MINIMUM are ok especially in the form of MCT (palm,coconut) we produce enough saturated fats.Too much can create insulin resistance and other helath problems.

[@bobbobber6726]

Jotun Heim you are wrong. Your body needs fat and protein. Your body does not need carbohydrates. Your brain does not need carbs

[@richardsannasardo4026]

@@bobbobber6726 I agree. Your science is spot on.

[@Advection357]

I always have a drink with simple fast carbs immediately after workout... like tea with 2-3 teaspoons of sugar.. or iced tea / lemonade

[@Gianluca33672]

Doug is numero uno

[@SC-fx4rt]

All this guy says is he’s a body builder but he looks like no such thing

[@michaelz8620]

He’s retired now but google pictures of him. He won Mr. Universe.

[@uniformblack5172]

All the studies on longevity show high protein diets are the worst thing you can have. Sure it's good for muscles, bad if you want to live a long time with little disease.

[@dannycomeau3278]

Low carb only when cutting

[@voochte]

Best

[@eSKAone-]

If you eat less enough you will certainly not gain weight :D you will lose weight. Keep the metabolism up with doing sports, eat less, eat less shit, eat more fruits and veggies, and you WILL lose weight.

[@tlaw53montecarloss]

ps not saying that to be mean

All this talk about carbs vs fats, but not a single reference to calorie intake.

[@forceoneX]

stan broniszewski Calories matter so little after a good while.

[@GREYGANDALF]

Wow this guy is sooo wrong!!!!

[@oscarbereche2647]

dude just speaks too fast Lol

[@chrisparker6421]

Doug and Ric, please watch videos from nutritionfacts.org. The information there will help prevent many of the diseases caused by eating high meat/dairy diets. Telling people to eat this way is not prudent.

[@SquatFull]

+chris parker Just more veggie thumping.

[@bobbobber6726]

chris parker what do you believe people ate to survive pre civilization? Beat it vegan.

[@TheWaqy]

As much as i love dougs training advice, his diet advice isnt the best. Eggs a super food? Eggs are one of the unhealthiest things you can eat. I guess thats what happens when the only information you have comes from the egg industry -.-

[@ricdrasin]

+TheWaqy Eggs is a super food, every one knows that even Jerry Brainum bodybuilding guru emphasises the whole egg. Been known for years

[@TheWaqy]

+ric drasin i was speaking in terms of health not bodybuilding. The saturated fats and bad cholesterol are not healthy which is why it is against the law to state that eggs are healthy or a good source of protein or nutritious when advertising them on tv. Look it up if you don't believe me.

[@pablo9364]

+TheWaqy yeah eggs are a so called superfood. I think the best question to ask is how many eggs eaten on average per day is too many. There is a point at which you can be consuming too much cholesterol from the egg yolks. From the research I have done and training with heavy weights I am happy with 3 whole eggs and as many egg whites as you can eat comfortably Every single day. There are lots of benefits in eating the yolks. I count 3 egg whites as the equivalent amount of protein as 1 whole egg.

[@Atlas_21]

"Look it up if you don't believe me." LOL what is that suppose to prove? The internet is full of BS! Especially nowadays with this vegan propaganda shit against animal products.

[@hippo-potamus]

Doug whats the ETA on your book!?