Stay on Windows 10 AFTER Support Ends

[@tech.curiosity]

What a joke when Microsoft says they care about "Green Planet" but push people to throw their PCs to trash.

[@Sonario648]

Even though they could donate their pcs to Africa.

[@_Digitalguy]

because some people are dumb enough to throw a PC that works instead of paying 30 bucks or even just using it with some common sense past end of life

[@clarkspiemuncher]

Or just install linux mint

[@robertgosz4281]

It's never about the planet. It's always a lie.

[@tech.curiosity]

@@robertgosz4281 True

[@Mr.SharkTooth-zc8rm]

Microsoft can take Windows 11 and go to where the Sun don't shine.

[@mimimmimmimim]

Sun is set tough. Ask Oracle if you don't believe me ;)

[@Mr.SharkTooth-zc8rm]

@@mimimmimmimim Nice... 👌

[@koioo2]

that is the way sometimes about Microsoft but Microsoft is a huge business they have latest and greatest computers .linux build by you and me

[@supersaiyaman11589]

i would just stay on windows 10 as long as the stuff you do works. their is no reason to get windows 11 for most people.

[@ibizenco]

@@supersaiyaman11589 Keep Windows 10 and just be CAREFUL what you do online... In all the years that I have internet, I got something "bad" only twice: once a virus that some kid sent me in an email, and once ransomware which was 200% my own fault. Windows 10 after October 2025? You'll be fine... if you are careful.

[@JeffBishopVE6EFR]

When Microsoft announced the end of life of Windows 10 I decided to dual boot windows and Linux. This gave me the option of trying Linux while keeping a safety net with the ability to boot into Windows if needed. The more I used Linux, I found that I rarely booted into Windows. After a year of not using Windows I decided to blow windows 10 off of my drive and dedicate the entire machine to Linux. For me, this was the right choice.

[@raven4k998]

easy fix linux plain and simple and the steam emulation allows windows software to run on linux through steam app itself using proton💀💀

[@robcarley7506]

Sweet, didnt even know i could test linux distros in a browser till this video, thanks Brian, gonna have a little play.

[@Britec09]

You're welcome

[@bashfullJ88]

Most people would be fine installing windows 11 if Microsoft would just get rid of the TPM 2.0 requirement, but Microsoft refuses to do so.

[@Robert-TomCat74]

My brand-new PC last February was Windows 11 23H2, but after 4 Months of horizontal file and photo folders and a schizophrenic performance with my external hard drives, I finally "UPGRADED" it to Windows 10 22H2 and it has been smooth operating ever since.

[@Jon717]

Removing the requirement is quite easy and IoT Enterprise LTSC 2024 doesn't even have that requirement. I think the main reason people still don't like it is because many parts of its U.I frankly suck. The whole Recall situation doesn't help either.

[@thisoldminer]

Not on a 2 core.

[@ddodogames]

@@Jon717 non-LTSC of loT Enterprise doesn't have that requirement either (at least for 24h2), so it is technically possible to install normal windows 11 on unsupported devices without having to do some stuff to skip requirements.

[@_Digitalguy]

TPM is not the main ssue, the main isse is the CPU generation

[@CoolDudeClem]

They just want more money, theyr'e practically turning Windows into a subscription base service. I can't use Linux, I tried but certain software that I rely on is just not available.

[@Britec09]

$30 for an extra year is not bad for people who want to hang on to there old pc and don't want to use Linux

[@BOB12349307]

exactly

[@KeithWooster-p1u]

I have used Linux for years I used mint I have just got play Linux Ubuntu 😮

[@ibizenco]

@@Britec09 So, basically... making the effort to get Linux will cost you only 30 USD, AND you'll have more peace of mind (and you'll live longer, due to less stress, which is bad for the heart - don't get me started). The BEST 30 USD not spent. 😄

[@CraigRodmellMusic]

I have three PCs currently running Windows 10. None of them "qualifies" for Windows 11 (not that I actually wanted it). Was I going to throw away and replace three perfectly good computers, just because Almighty Microsoft said so?!?!? Not a snowball's chance in Hell!!! One of them, which I use for music and video production, will stay on Windows 10. It already spends 99% of its time offline at present; going 100% offline won't be a big issue on that machine. The other two, which I use for more day to day purposes, are going to be Linux machines. I'm already testing out Linux distros for these.

[@BarfingGerbil]

It's not just the Windows 10, but the hardware drivers also -- We have Windows 10, 7, Vista, XP, and even 98SE over here that live on because of hardware compatibility and drivers. We've already configured some Linux systems (usually those are in the infrastructure and servers) for user-facing desktop work that are now functionally equivalent to Windows. Our next upgrades are leaning away from Microsoft and toward Linux distros now because of their attitude toward Windows 11's replace-the-machine requirements, which we simply can't budget.

[@ibizenco]

@@BarfingGerbil RE hardware and drivers: I have an ANCIENT HP computer (the BIOS is from 2005) with a Pentium 4 "630", 2 x 2 GB DDR2 RAM (is it DDR2?) and "onboard video" (the PCIe motherboard slot was removed - dang you, HP). It runs Linux Mint, fully upgraded, just fine - perhaps a tiny bit slow, with such old hardware, but Linux works great; I can surf the Web, watch KZbin videos without any problems, do office work (I worked at home with it during COVID19 instead of with my Dell laptop). If you read this: don't throw away your "non-Windows 11" computer: keep it and learn Linux... (Linux MInt or Ubuntu are good distros for beginners.)

[@paulhaywood7685]

As long as Microsoft requires recall with keylogging and snapshots of my private information, I will not upgrade to 11. If something like this comes to Windows 10 I will totally quit using Windows and fully change over to Linux. Linux is getting better now. I paid for my copy of Windows and it is MINE! If i don't agree with policies of Microsoft and no choice is available allowing control of the OS, Linux will be the new thing.

[@Britec09]

Recall can be disabled and it only works on NPU right now.

[@OlettaLiano]

@@Britec09 Right now? That's the problem.

[@gothjim325]

Bingo.

[@Sirlarrythecat]

Recall all the fuss over nothing you have to have a compatible Co-pilot+ AI CPU for it to run on and there are very few people that own such high end hardware so lots of people are getting their panties in a bunch over absolutely nothing.

[@wallyg4445]

@@Sirlarrythecat it's not absolutely nothing.

[@wallyg4445]

I've been using Linux Mint for at least 15 years now, it's the closest thing to windows you'll find, but yes, for gaming and such there are limitations, but you won't find a more secure OS than Linux. Heck, i'm still using windows 7 on my laptop, AND getting updates.

[@zulkarnaenabraham3252]

How come the windows 7 still getting updayes?

[@marcosousa9513]

For those who would like to try Linux, Zorin would be the best option. Looks like Windows with much better looking. I' using it for more than 1 year and it's really amazing. Thank you for another great video!

[@Britec09]

Thanks for the tip!

[@SolemnePoketto]

Kubuntu is great too, in my opinion

[@MikeBob2023]

Thanks, Brian. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that if that first year of updates from Microsoft is charged at $30, then a _2nd_ year will cost $60. (if they offer it after the first year). I'm using both Windows and Linux (for however long I can stay with 23H2), because they both have their respective advantages, but I'm a fanboy of neither one. Almost every day I read online posts made by people (like me) who are relatively new to Linux, and they're using it, but they're also (again like me) still using Windows at the same time. It's nice knowing about the various options (tools) for updating/upgrading Windows. There's always the possibility that one or more of em will come in handy. Thanks again. 👍🏼

[@Britec09]

All we know right now is its a one year deal of $30 no mention of second year, but things change all the time.

[@bkThund3r]

I was a windows user until 2 years ago. I heard that windows would not work on my laptop at that time. So i prepared myself, dual booted kubuntu. Then i couldn't get nordvpn to work with kubuntu so I installed zorin in its place but i chose the lite version. Was not happy with the theming. I decided to go with Linux mint 20.3. About a few months later, I stopped using windows completely because my windows would be slow as a snail while mint was quick. That was my journey, I switched because i didnt want to deal with not being able to use windows.

[@ibizenco]

Another fellow Linux Mint user. 🥰🙂

[@MrLescol]

now in the final year of support I've downloaded linux mint.. and am getting ready for that big jump. I've set up dual boot and I dis conect the windows from the internet & use linux for connecting to interent, easy peasey...& no more m$ rubbish..

[@bashfullJ88]

If Microsoft wants people to upgrade their OS they should release Windows 12 instead of putting an AI patch on win 11. We've waited long enough for Windows 12.

[@BYou-ws6bu]

Or a Windows 11 starter version that has no TPM 2.0 or CPU strict requirement.

[@mikebaker2927]

Thanks Brian. Another great video.

[@Britec09]

Thanks for the donation Mike 👍

[@mikebaker2927]

@Britec09 you’re welcome.

[@dennisvaughn540]

Great update for old laptop users!

[@Britec09]

Indeed!

[@bapibarman7484]

Microsoft's biggest asset is its Windows 10 users which still has 61% market share almost twice of Windows 11. If microsoft abandon their largest user base and we see some cyber attack happen on windows 10 which is still used by businesses. their stock price will go down very quickly and this should teach them their lesson.

[@koioo2]

am afraid in home user some or business some high level computers be in the like thrift store only can t upgrade to windows 11 ..and I bought old refurbished levono tablet with windows 11 from a store want to reformat to english version of windows 11 and than system tell me I can t cause of system requirements

[@Britec09]

I think they will extend for another 2 years after 2025

[@primekiller5729]

Will Microsoft double the prices after the first year meaning year 2 would be $60 and year 3 would be $120 for a total of $210 for all 3 years!?

[@Mario583a]

People say Windows 10 is 61% whereas the optional* Steam hardware survey says 51.97% *Optional is the people who did not take the survey don't show up to skew as the data is not there and missing.

[@waynewidener6767]

Microsoft only makes a small portion of their revenue from the Windows operating system. If they can convert users over to a subscription basis their profits will soar.

[@US_Joe]

Seems MS had no choice, due to their failure with 11. Thanx Brian 👍👍👍

[@Britec09]

Very welcome

[@margaretjbuckley]

So we're paying for their mistakes?

[@Anthony-l1s2e]

​@margaretjbuckley what do you expect from Microsoft.

[@ibizenco]

No choice but to ask Windows 10 users for money to give them Windows 10 upgrades?😂😐😏

[@bleakyfinder2692]

Thanks for this update news Brian.

[@Britec09]

Any time!

[@rosswarren436]

This is good news. They had been touting $61 for businesses, so $30 for home users isn't bad. I have two PCs and one laptop that will never run Windows 11, so getting another year out of them is not bad, and hopefully gives Microsloth another year to get most of the bugs out of Windows 11 before I have to move on to it, assuming they actually start testing patches before they release them. And maybe when I do have to buy a new machine (I'll only buy one) maybe what I can get for my money will be better too. There's still going to be a lot of PCs being dumped into landfills. Not good.

[@Nik-8it5p]

There may even be a hack available like they did with windows 7 to get it supported free for 5 years after official support ended. But better news is ltsc does not end for another 10 years. There may be hope!

[@lecam5952]

@@Nik-8it5p To stay on W10, the best solution is Win10 Iot Enterprise LTSC 21H2 with a end of live on 01/13/2032, a life licence for only 7.5 $. It's on my 4 pc's and everything is ok. 👍😉

[@YoStu242]

Of course MS is going to continue support for W10 for money vs people moving to W11 for free

[@steveh2544]

Thankyou, Brian. 👍

[@Britec09]

Very welcome

[@rancid216]

I held off upgrading to Windows 11 because of all the bad things I heard people say about it. I installed it on my two older computers with the idea of playing around with it. With a couple tweaks I had it looking like Windows 7 as I had Windows 10. So I went ahead and installed it on my two computers that met the requirements. All four computers for me are running fine. I would say bite the bullet an install Windows 11. They other thing I would say is that since it's running fine on my two older computers the Windows 11 system requirements are BS.

[@playnochat]

I don't want Microsoft to take snapshot of my doings with seconds interval and use AI to analyze it. You can turn it off, but you would have to check every month that Microsoft hasn't "accidentally" turned it on, like they have done with their other features.

[@BarfingGerbil]

@@playnochat Microsoft Recall is too creepy and insecure for us. Who else is seeing the screenshots and getting reports about them? We're not doing anything illegal, but we do have business competitors and confidentiality requirements. And we can't imagine that kind of thing bogging down our internet connections with gigabytes of screenshots that assume we all somehow can't make decisions or have Alzheimers.

[@Nik-8it5p]

I have uninstalled it entirely.

[@BOB12349307]

it always gets worse windows has always sucked!!!!!!!!!

[@dobias28]

Jesus, here's an idea. Side load Linux, learn to live with it and only use windows 10 for software that is not available on linux, but stay OFFLINE only on windows. Thats my plan

[@1982booboo]

Yeah but mostly ppl using win for software that needs internet as well. (I'm referring to multi player games) Editing softwares should be fine.

[@jedipadawan7023]

It's not a stupid plan.

[@leewalton7403]

even a yr after end of support win10 will be fine on the intermediate, chances of getting hacked are bah

[@johnpedersen8387]

As always Brian thanks for a honest an informative video. I'm on Windows 10 IOT LTSC 21H2. I thougt that I would get security updates free until 2032. But you said in the video that from 2027 and until 2032 that the sevice of updates should be paid for. Where can I find information about that. On my secondary pc I would go the Linux way. Have a nice weekend.

[@Britec09]

Hi John, Yes updates will be free. Not thinking straight right now sorry, just lost my brother. www.msembedded.biz/fileadmin/user_upload/msembedded/docs/avs-ms-embedded-biz-product-support-availability.pdf

[@josemedeiros007]

Great information and video, what is the URL to try Linux in your web browser, can you add the link to your video description. I've been using Linux since 1997 and Windows since 1994, when I bought a Linux book that had Slackware install CD in it at Computer Literacy bookstore in San Jose, Cal before it became Fatbrain, and then Barnes & Noble bought them, we use to have Linux install fests there, and parts of it were filmed for the Linux documentary Revolution OS that I am in one scene demoing my Intel dual Pentium Pro computer I built running Caldera Linux.

[@calholli]

I'm still on windows 7 and it works great.. People are just going to keep using it anyway.

[@Nik-8it5p]

I was on W7 until last year, I bit the bullet as programs I regularly use were dropping support for it. I would still be using W7now otherwise!

[@calholli]

@@Nik-8it5p yeah.. I went ahead and jumped to linux.. (Nobara). It has been pretty seamless for a few weeks now. For what I do, everything still works the same. So I'm pretty happy to be on linux

[@leewalton7403]

exactly this. even if MS do dump win10 it's not going to stop working, the only thing that will make me upgrade to 11 is when my programs stop working on 10 & at the min alot of them do work on 11!!

[@Jean-de-lune]

No mention of this from the Zero emissions crew! Imagine the effect of chucikng away perfectly good PCs or laptops and having to replace them with brand new stuff that runs Windows 11!

[@lawrencecavens5760]

Brian in this video you mentioned about Linux being an option - You need to add what computer manufactures support Linux 100 % and tell the public so that they'll be more at ease. I found out that Lenovo is one of the High contenders that Linux supports And Acer has failed after 2018 on newer machines . But if people don't know -How are they going to switch... so please get that info out there ...

[@RAZORREVOLUTION1]

How are Microsoft offering this extra year of support to Windows 10 users? I keep getting notifications about the end of support date (i.e., October 2025), yet no mention of a way to extend support for another year for home users.

[@oceanbreeze369]

Running Win11 on older pcs 12 to 16yrs old with no issues. Very fast as long as upgrade to core i7 chips, max memory, and using ssd's.

[@Sterling_Silver04]

My oldest is 13 currently, still running like clockwork

[@1982booboo]

It is not the cpu u are having is is more the motherboard that it matters.

[@Nik-8it5p]

I have a 12 year old i5 and that runs great.

[@davinp]

$30 is not bad. This is the first time Microsoft has offered extended support for home users. Windows 11 has allot smaller user base then Windows 10. The strict Windows 11 system requirements creates a huge waste problem. Microsoft wants users to thrown out their old PC and buy a new Windows 11 PC., but some PCs 4-5 years old may still work well and so peuple don't want to buy a new PC

[@Britec09]

I think $30 is fair for people who want to continue to use Windows 10

[@asagiai4965]

30$ is fair. It is not bad. Until 1.) You realize it is not only the people in the US will be affected. 2.) You found out you are not really getting the features and support you need. 3.) You found out they can change pricing to higher pricing.

[@davinp]

@@asagiai4965 also remember that it is just for one year. We don't know if Microsoft will extended it pass a year or if they could raise price for additional year

[@asagiai4965]

@davinp yes that's the point we don't know. But knowing it is a business idea, most likely they will capitalize on it. The problem with subscription is once a business or a consumer have it. It is hard to unsubscribe without much hassle.

[@jasonhawkins4528]

Nice video Brian opatch is good it's also common sense helps. To be honest I am still using windows 7 with a Kernal, obviously not banking on it, I use my phone and I've had no trouble I don't think hackers are too botherd about hacking old systems but i'm also careful on what I do. I've also replaced my CD/DVD drive to a hdd for backup so all id good

[@Britec09]

Its going to come down to weather people want to pay for updates

[@jasonhawkins4528]

@@Britec09 Yes I agree I didn't want to pay for it plus I'm still in love with win 7 GUI aero and dreamscene because Win 11 24H2 stopped stardock deskscapes working and I asked them if they will update it and they are not sure themselves plus my older software for dts coding etc doesn't work on 11 24H2

[@mikebaker2927]

Yeah this is good news especially for my father who just doesn’t want to upgrade to Windows 11.

[@Britec09]

Maybe this can help him

[@mikebaker2927]

@@Britec09 I’m sure if he doesn’t change his mind between now and the EOL, we will certainly pay the $30.

[@MrMeddyman]

I stayed on Windows 7 until like 2022 when it just became unrealistic and I'll be staying on Windows 10 as long as possible as well...

[@darrenvail8726]

Everything will be subscription based. Everything!

[@Britec09]

Very possible, we will need to wait and see.

[@jasonhawkins4528]

@@darrenvail8726 I must admit it’s getting that way

[@Everette997]

Linus mention rumors that they might do win 12 but subscription

[@daveadams6421]

Windows 365 is already available - subscription based cloud solution

[@Everette997]

@daveadams6421 yeah I'm wait for microsoft to make it where it's cloud base only os and make it impossible for other people that don't have internet can't use windows lol

[@clevelog]

Thanks!

[@Britec09]

Thanks for the donation 👍🍺

[@UnKnown-v9m2o]

Don't want to use a workaround, buy a new license, use Linux, or buy a new PC, or buy another key. I prefer to keep using Windows 10 after end of life, but the possibility of exploits does bother me. But, what if I used a VM at all times when online? Would that and careful what I download be enough to take care of exploits?

[@anshumanmishraw]

I ask operating system : dear Windows 10 do you love me? if yes then don't leave me.

[@jasonhawkins4528]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jasonhawkins4528]

@@anshumanmishraw windows 10. Of course I won’t leave you as long as you disconnect me from Microsoft 😂👍

[@Mario583a]

Windows 10: I would never leave you babe.

[@Pillock25]

I need to replace my motherboard and CPU for win 11. Will my win 10 install still work, and can I just upgrade to win 11 and be activated for free? Like I did from 7 to 10.

[@OldFossil-z5p]

If possible upgrade to window 11, it's worth it and free. An easier system to navigate around with new fast software. I get warnings about carbon emissions when I put everything on full power. I don't care because I know our ozone layer disperses them.

[@petethewrist]

My old xp pc still runs great i keepmit on line for its floppy drive i have never had any trouble with viruses or scammers. I now have window 10 and no doubt it will to will still be working ten years from now.

[@louf7178]

How risky will it be to just use Win10 without updates and minimal internet use?

[@Britec09]

Over time it would be very risky

[@robertbiron]

My brother-in-law still uses Windows 8.0 and does not seem to have a problem with that one.

[@louf7178]

@@robertbiron What about firewall and anti-virus? My computer has MS Defender.

[@omarothman12184]

honestly I thought it was gonna be much worse but that's relatively fine

[@Mario583a]

This is fine🔥

[@journeyman6752]

I've got two laptops running 10 Pro 22H2. I'm going to wait and see what's after W11. Thanks for the info about the paid update!

[@clevelog]

Thank you for the great update. : )

[@33lex55]

I'm on a dual-boot PC: I use Win10 Home for more serious stuff (which involves a lot of file handling), and Win11 Pro for gaming. Win11 is OK for gaming, but working with files is a nightmare. So, for me, that MS solution would be fine - until they make Win11 a bit easier to work with files. (my PC meets the Win11 requirements).

[@John-ev3rm]

You should be talking about the windows users who do have the supporting hardware but for very good reason do not want the Win11 upgrade! Anyone without supporting hardware needs to get a new computer anyway.

[@BarfingGerbil]

As Microsoft loudly indicates, our machines are incompatible with Windows 11 and we're not going to be replacing the machines. We simply don't have the budget to replace our computers -- the economics just don't work right now and we're pinching every penny as it is. Also, we have a sensibility concern with throwing away well-maintained, perfectly functional machines (even when Microsoft gives platitudes about their sensitivity to environmental issues, yet tells us we have to dispose of perfectly good equipment to replace them with more expensive versions that essentially do the identical tasks!). So, Windows 11 isn't going to happen over here. At all. Period. We also can't budget paid support plans. So when Microsoft drops support for Windows 10 on October 25, 2025, our systems running Windows 10 will join the Windows 7, Windows Vista, Windows XP, even three 25 year-old Windows 98SE systems here in an unsupported-but-fully active status. (No Windows 8 systems though, we had to run Windows 8 with Classic Shell (now Open-Shell) to make it usable at all -- the Windows 8 UI was a nearly useless crippled smartphone interface on a PC). However, we have years and years of experience in self-supporting our Microsoft-unsupported Windows systems. We also have Linux systems everywhere, and have some desktop systems with Linux, LibreOffice, Opera, and Firefox which are in functional use and functionally equivalent to Windows. We're not leaving Microsoft and Windows, they're leaving us.

[@ronaldlee3537]

I used Win XP for 5 years after MSFT dropped support, as long as you don't go to nefarious websites and open .JPEGs in your email things should be fine, MSFT is just using scare tactics to make you upgrade. The worst experience of running Win XP after MSFT-dropped support was that I downloaded a free version of a virus scanning software hoping to better avoid viruses, was it disabled an app that I was using claiming that it was big virus. My son ran this same exact version on his laptop running Win 7 was using it just fine. And later many websites started checking the Win version because XP does not have the modern tracking features and it would not run if you were using XP.

[@Mario583a]

Title: Captain America: No, no I don't think I will.

[@michaeltovey02607]

Not only would I need to replace a windows 10 computer but two perfectlygood printers and a scanner would be junked because there are no Windows 11 drivers. For modest home office functions windows 10 is just fine and I have bought a Windows 11 laptop to connect to the internet, do email etc. Thanks Microsoft - I remember the promise that Windows 10 was the final windows os.

[@Nik-8it5p]

....and supported for the life of the system!!!

[@colmortimer1066]

What happens exactly if I do nothing? Will they make me upgrade to window 11? Will I just be risking my PC for security issues that most my other software protects me from usually better than windows does? I am certain my PC will run windows 11, but windows 10 works just fine and I know it and am used to it, I won't pay to keep it, nor would I pay to upgrade.

[@Britec09]

No, you can continue to use Windows 10 without security updates and not pay anything, but its a risk.

[@Douglas_Blake_579]

Nothing happens ... your computer will continue to work just like it does today.

[@Nik-8it5p]

My old W7 laptop ran like crap with W10, so I bought a new W11 machine. I needed a new os to run the software for my DAW, interfaces and mixer as support had been pulled from W7. So I tried the unofficial route to upgrading the old W7 laptop. To my surprise the gen 2 i5 runs really well on it, considering w10 would boot loop a blue screen after every update. I use scripts to lighten the os even more and open shell runs great. The artificial blockade MS has put in place sucks.

[@virtual-adam]

I was at the same point with Windows 7 as I will be soon on Windows 10. I always do a System Image every week, if you get a virus or any other issue just restore to the image. The tool for creating a System Image is built into Windows: Control Panel > Backup and Restore > Create a System Image (top left). If you get any major issues (even if you are fully patched with new updates) you will still want to restore the system. Used Win 7 for years with no issues, always had an image to fall back on.

[@gcn9]

A big question is: will Steam allow patched Windows 10 machines access to Steam games or only access by Windows 11 machines?

[@ton146]

I am still on winXP with no trouble. All my newer machines are Linux based

[@BarfingGerbil]

We've got a mix of systems here, some are WinXP and are running just fine. (But we keep them behind a firewall and proxy servers on an otherwise internal-only network - they never touch the raw Internet.)

[@Windows_Guy]

Windows 10's support will ACTUALLY end when apps stop supporting it. I have tested using Windows 11 22000.1 with the updates PAUSED, and guess what? NO Viruses or any security problems were there.

[@Mario583a]

You deserve this 🏆 as others might not be so fortunate.

[@Windows_Guy]

@Mario583a wdym? Are you on drugs or smth?

[@D.von.N]

Defo going Linux, half way there. The vast majority of Windows users don't need those special pieces of software that isn't on Linux. Adobe has been found to be used by less than 2% of Windows users. Even me as a Windows user I used Gimp if I needed to edit some graphics or create a logo or a banner. Now there is a new upgrade of Gimp in the pipelines, more user friendly. Teams... a lot is doable in the browser, so even Linux users can have Teams meetings. And there is a virtual machine that can run Windows within Linux and I am going to explore that option, aside from what I already have: Win11Pro on a Gen2 usb to boot from, like a computer of its own. Once I was happy with the configurations and settings, I created a clone on another such usb, in case the first one got rogue. Not paying any extra dime to Microsoft. I strongly recommend people to explore Linux, for the sake of their wallets and also online security as less malware is made for Linux still. That might change in the future, but for now any sensible online behaviour should keep the vast majority of Linux users safe, and that without additional bloatware like paid antivirus software is.

[@The_Old_Turtle]

Thank you for this video! I recently made the switch to Linux Mint and i do not regret it. However, I noticed that you didn't mention Chrome OS and Fyde OS. It would be interesting to discuss those!

[@CaptainYourself2]

I’d trust Windows 11 before ChromeOS.

[@The_Old_Turtle]

@CaptainYourself2 Google already knows everything about you

[@JS-wl3gi]

I plan on using the Winsdows 10 has a platform for Virtual Machines that are upgradable like linux and others.

[@theyjustwantyourmoney4539]

What a slap in the face from Microsoft, I’m glad I left it 10 yrs ago 😬

[@Acme633]

Unless you had continued to use Windows 10 with a new computer when Windows 11 was already around, it is extremely unlikely that the computer you bought at the time would have the necessary configuration to shift to Windows 11.

[@MostlyInteresting]

Hell I stayed on Windows 7 until well into Windows 10. There was no real pain to doing so

[@JayJenkins-ps4jg]

I'm still on XP

[@koioo2]

@@JayJenkins-ps4jg how do you do with updates and security patch

[@JayJenkins-ps4jg]

@@koioo2 Takes a bit of tinkering but i managed to get xp on my 2024 computer

[@jasonhawkins4528]

Yes I'm still on it with Kernal vex and like your experience I have no trouble

[@jasonhawkins4528]

@@JayJenkins-ps4jg Yes it can be done

[@adishadzo9896]

I have moved to Linux when Windows 10 was released. I still use Windows but only rarely, when play PC games or need to use some app that works on Windows only. Linux is free and have free software, as mentioned in the video, it is also an open source. Been using Ubuntu before, now on Mint. I have been part of Linux Mint community for a long time, made about 17 donations and never felt any toxicity towards new Linux users. Some members might be toxic but that's internet. Most of the Linux community members are ready to help if you need one. I hate the direction in which Windows is going. It cares more about profit than user experience. For me, the last true Windows was Windows 7. Btw, you can install Linux alongside Windows, dual boot or, as in my case, have two drives for each OS. Also, I have no idea where people get this idea that Linux is hard to use. If you know how to use Windows properly, than Linux wont be a problem. I actually find Linux interface, at least Mint, very simple. Some features that Linux had Windows introduced in Windows 10, as if developers on Microsoft copied from Linux.

[@yogibarista2818]

Windows 11 works fine on older hardware, and the likelihood of MS blocking installation on unsupported hardware, while struggling to get people to install Windows 11... not much.

[@rickh8380]

I wonder how many millions of folks will just continue to use Windows 10 after it's end of life date? I turned TPM off on my PC in the BIOS so I wouldn't get Windows 11.

[@fightforjustice3744]

I'm not the techo like a lot of others. I have windows 10 and my computer meets all the requirements for 11. What is TPM?

[@gailjoe7217]

Ugh, my telework from home situation is going to force me to stay on Windows for a couple of software reasons. I really don't like windows 11 changes it made to UI; I'm thinking 0patch and staying on 10 as I can't upgrade. I want some more reviews on 0patch to be more sure of it though.

[@bradgolding6847]

YES!!! Windows 11 is crap! I lost so much stuff when I upgraded. And, the latest Word will not open 20 year old files! I am waiting for China's Harmony OS to switch!

[@Oliver-kv2mm]

I still run Windows 7 on my old computer, I'm learning Linux so I can ditch Windows 10.

[@stephenpeat3885]

What date you can purchase the extension to windows 10 because I have two pc with a intel i9 7 generation with 4gb graphics

[@laylasmart]

Linux Zorin OS is the best equivalent OS to Windows. It looks pretty and function much the same and will fit Windows users much more then Linux Mint. It also has support for Windows third party Software. Using Lutris as a container will help to do that. Question, How to downgrade a laptop that comes with Windows 11 with intel IrisXe graphic card to Windows 10 when the NVME is not recognizable? I managed to install Windows 10 but I god the blue screen of death.

[@Porkypies6m]

can all links and files be transferred to Linux from w10?

[@laylasmart]

@@Porkypies6m There's a guy named Matt from Mattscreative. He will give you a much better answer.

[@Britec09]

Zorin is nice, but Linux is no equivalent OS to Windows. They are both completely different

[@laylasmart]

@@Britec09 Off course they are both completely different, and still, there are ways to run Windows third party software using Lutris as a container, and Zorin will give to Windows users a feel like they are at a very familiar place. So it is a no brainer to recommend to Windows users to use Zorin OS.

[@FBAV]

I've payed for Windows 98, XP and Vista on CD-ROM already and bought one laptop with Windows 10 preinstalled, allthough I wanted to install Windows 7 or Linux on it, but it both wouldn't let me. Which means I payed for Windows 10 as well. Had two Windows 11 laptops; I found no option to install Linux or any other OS and I really was disguised by Windows 11, so I sent them back to the seller and claimed my money back. I'm not interested in Windows 11 and I'm also not interested in paying more to Microsoft. So by October next year I wanna quit. Probably change back to offline banking as much as possible and getting rid of doing online stuff as much as possible.

[@onetruecharlatan]

Recently, my Dad's 10 year old Samsung laptop's HDD was going bad, running so terribly slowly that I advised him to get an SSD. No nvme ports so a Samsung 2.5" was purchased to replace it. He seemed more worried than me about the lack of support for Win10 in the very near future and asked about Win 11. I told him that Win 11 had very specific "minimum" hardware requirements in order to install and run and then told him his laptop was not going to meet said requirements. However, I had received several YT recommended videos about Win 11 "hardware work arounds" but never watched any of them, so I looked one up and gave it a shot. I don't know what, if any implications there are going forward, but now Dad has a laptop that runs Win 11 perfectly and is as fast at loading as any new laptop would ever be. No regrets so far and for the £7.67 for a Pro Retail key and the £40 for the SSD. It was a no brainer.

[@Douglas_Blake_579]

You could have put in a SATA SSD that works just like a hard drive only lots faster and reinstalled Windows 10, no problems.

[@onetruecharlatan]

@@Douglas_Blake_579 "He seemed more worried than me about the lack of support for Win10" 😳

[@Douglas_Blake_579]

@@onetruecharlatan Yeah, I saw that. But rather than playing along with his concerns, maybe you shuld have explained that W11 is considerably less secure and private. A lot of people hear the hacker stories and "you gotta update" crap and don't know any better than to play along. Sometimes education is its own best reward.

[@authurstretchygreenthing8464]

What kind of toxic Linux users do you keep running into, anyway? Never thought about it until now.

[@Britec09]

The kind that are nasty and troll in comments on my KZbin channel.

[@Douglas_Blake_579]

One example... I recently decided to take a long look at Mint. Now I'm a total nube on Linux so I had some rather beginerish questions I needed answered... I signed into the Linux forum and posted a message with 4 questions about desktop setup, sound and general operations. The answers I got were amazing... "What, you can't figure that out for yourself?" .... "Do you really not know this?" ... and my favourite ... "Another Windows wanker here to bother us". Trust me... that is NOT how you bring converts into the fold.

[@Mario583a]

The 'just use Linux for everything' kind? Stubbed your toe? Linux would safely avoid this.

[@DevilbyMoonlight]

hmmm I wonder if win11 security updates will work on 10, even if you manually install them, looks like the same or compatible codebase,

[@Robert-TomCat74]

$30 dollars is a reasonable price to avoid Windows 11. My PC "was" a Windows 11 Pro 23H2 bought new on February 21, 2024, as I have mentioned before, but after 4 Months of "Windows 11 Hell" I finally "upgraded" my PC to Windows 10 22H2 and have been happy ever since. So, any offer to stay on Windows except the "Horrid" 11 version is welcome. I would like to see an operating system from a British company, but with Kier Starmer as PM, that's very unlikely in my lifetime.

[@xaero1971]

Canonical, the company who develops Ubuntu, is British.

[@grahamepigney8565]

@@xaero1971 but some people won't let facts get in the way of taking a pop at the the Labour government.

[@MrEricmopar]

I've seen videos of good hackers, and the hackers get around patches in a matter of minutes or hours... So having "current" Windows does not seem to matter.

[@workingwiththelight3119]

I am moving to Linux Mint 22. I won't use Microsoft spyware anymore!

[@Britec09]

Thats you're choice

[@1982booboo]

@@Britec09 Exactly.,and i'm sorry for your experience with toxic ppl. With every community that grows, the A-holes are pouring in as well,

[@H53.]

It's not like you're that important that Microsoft will spy on you specifically. You're only part of non-personally identifying telemetry data. I don't get the "spy" argument.

[@jawnTem]

I just tried to install Win 11 on a build last week that Windows refused, saying it wasn't acceptable. I purchased a win10 key.

[@jn1mrgn]

The 3rd party patching seems like a bonkers idea. Let's say they release a patch. That breaks compatibility with some app. Is the app vendor going to release an update so it works with a Win10 system with some shoddy 3rd party patch?

[@tafsir5780]

I was using windows 7 till the start of 2024, till the hard drive packed in , but than again i was only using for Microsoft office stuff & nothing else

[@Uchiha409]

Just wondering if a reputable antivirus enough to protect windows 10 as it is….

[@a.m.bal.4191]

I have tried Linux, but it does not offer drivers for my scanner. My 3 perfectly working pc’s don’t support Win11, so the extended Win10 subscription will be the only option for now. New computers are quite expensive, so that is not an option for now either. I really hope MS will change Win11 hardware compatibility and make it a smooth update for Win10. If not, I would have to chuck out my HP, Dell and Lenovo workstations.

[@Sharkbite1970]

Great vid you could have stated weather they send windows 10 something my laptop was windows8 and they sent me the upgrade to windows 10 which was very useful ,if they can do that then they can surely send out a offer to windows 10 users,.You are right,there is going to be alot of e-waste at a sensitive time microsoft need to do more,l doubled the ram on my laptop but they still tell me l can't have win 11,with that and win 10 it works fine and there are plenty of dodgy website my PC blocks ,

[@josephvida1439]

This didn't start with Windows 10, it happened when Microsoft threw XP, Vista, and 7 users to the curb...When Bill Gates got greedy and went after Apple customers by COPYING IOS's tiles and apps... The new war is AI and that is why Microsoft killed the 32-bit operating system with the introduction of Windows 11...Windows is now a subscription service, whether that be office or backing up your system to the cloud... No more dedicated programs like Outlook Express, Outlook 2003, Microsoft Office 2003, or Microsoft Office XP...Now you have to download APPS from the Microsoft store...Yea, ripping off Apple's app store... And no, Microsoft doesn't need to lose money by continuing support for legacy operating systems...I mean, I come across many videos of computer geeks installing XP on a modern pc or sites like Legacy Updates to update XP...If your average Joe can do things like this without getting paid millions of dollars, why can't Microsoft keep XP security updates on its servers and add service packs so you can install XP on a modern pc??? That's because if given the choice, most computer users will stick with XP or 7...That's how much Windows 10 and 11 sucks...And if Microsoft cared so much about climate change and keeping people safe ---> They would have kept XP security updates on their servers and add a Windows 11 32-bit operating system...

[@Wongmc644]

There are still many laptops n PCs running XP, win7, etc. What's the big deal with using win 10 ? It's not going to stop functioning

[@todareistodomyfoot8403]

I'm in a bit of a pickle here as I'm not that good with computers, I'm using an Optiplex 7010, I guess it's a workstation computer that's built for hard use. I don't know if windows 11 can run on it and I don't know how to find out if it does or not. And as for Linic, I don't know how to upload it and if I'd need to offload windows 10 first. I'm in my 50s now, I never took computer classes which I regret now, and now I don't know what to do.

[@sandgroper1970]

Using an old system which is not compatible with Windows 11, doesn’t stop them pestering me with ads for windows 11. But I do remember I had an old laptop which ran XP, after end of life that thing became a brick bit by bit ( slowing down), I did eventually shoehorn windows 8 and then 10 onto it, but it was beyond it’s capabilities and it just ran very hot… So I am now busily saving to upgrade to a Mac.. I thought about Linux, but I need the office program, but a Linux machine won’t run office, and the Linux version is probably wouldn’t open current word and excel files I use .

[@drmarkintexas-400]

🏆⭐🙏🤗 Thank you for sharing this

[@Britec09]

You are so welcome

[@tridens6708]

Microsoft just extended W10 support till 2026 but it's £30😢 good job I switched to Linux 😊😊

[@ibizenco]

Microsoft is being ridiculous. My Ryzen 5 1600 CPU is faster/better than my Athlon 3000G, yet my R5 1600 machine is not allowed to run Windows 11. Do they REALLY think I am going to throw away a perfectly working computer, because they want more money (data)? Oh wait, I forgot - that computer is already running Linux Mint (with Cinnamon). 🙂 Unless you need "special" software, Linux can perfectly replace Windows 10.

[@stephenhall3515]

Microsoft's treachery and greed after publishing that Windows 10 would be the last numbered one then it would be a rolling 'service' (albeit with small fees) has already bitten them. UK education and medical etc departments of state ceased pre-arranged contract continuity 2 years after Windows 11 appeared and was technically scrutinised. W11 has not improved since that survey and consensus is that in many ways it is seriously inferior. Aside from so-called 'security' standards being proved to be bogus and CPU blacklists being chaotic (Intel has big cases in progress in most US states), UK, Commonwealth and several EU states are assembling lists of privacy infringements in W11 and some high-end product makers offer W11 or W10 on direct order machines. Brian's points about Linux are valid but usage share of the whole is growing at an accelerated pace, notably 'distros' which resemble Windows or Mac and the tertiary education sector has been a leader in dumping Microsoft except for some games which only play on Windows. Fine, the games industry will adapt and some companies have released to up to 4 of the Linux types (as opposed to distros, as the latter are based on a handful of kernels), noting customer satisfaction due mainly to freedom from Windows bloat. Brian showed a clip of Libre Office. Over several years those of us in education have LO to be superior to Office because the latter makes too many irrational changes and re-badges stuff dating back to the 1990s. LO has evolved with English as the main language but always set out to offer worldwide use. Its languages packs are first rate and there is nothing in Office 365 -- even the full version -- which LO cannot do. MS Publisher has been cut down but 2 sections of LO surpassed it several years ago. The freedom to customise is very rich with some effort and the results remain on the machine in question. Some MS copyright features might be grasped in the desperate fist of M'soft but contributors and innovators write their own then become mildly commercial. Microsoft, in my quite well informed opinion, has already lost the market and this began some time ago when it was evident that the business model was one of lease and not sale of a complete product. The trajectory of decline could be similar to that of the Windows phone and Zune.

[@Viron-po3bw]

Lawsuit incoming.

[@asagiai4965]

Yes

[@TheTimeProphet]

Strange I am running windows 7 on my home server, and I still get security updates LOL.

[@Mario583a]

The files are on the Microsoft Update Catalog, the only thing that changes is the date of your current country.

[@DaystromDataConcepts]

So, Windows 11 is an upgrade?

[@corey7219]

Windows 10 iot ltsc is an upgrade in itself to regular windows 10

[@george6252]

Once support for Windows 10 ends so does my decades old affair with windows. Older reconditioned Cpu that works well. Going to Linux and or Apple. Windows 11 is spyware from what I've read. Windows RIP.

[@johngoard8272]

Hmm Brian an explanation for those of us who see this Microsoft nonsense going on just why are they do this to the Windows OS is it purely because of security in for my mind this way of getting you to pay for security updates after the end of life for 10 is simply holding out the carrot for more money and hitting you wth a big stick if you don't pay for something they could simply let you have anyway. Again it is down to greed I suspect and well we have had to put up with this for ages now eh?

[@electechyt]

I like the smokers reference! Good analogy.

[@Britec09]

Thanks

[@williamwhitney6473]

Oxymoron example: "Upgrade" to Windows 11.