British Couple Reacts to Basically A War Crime - America's Future Weapon The XM-29

[@HistoryNerd808]

You definitely should do more of TFE. Guy is hilarious and very much worth the binge-watching.

[@usmcmech96]

I actually got to test fire this when it was in development in the late 90s. It was very cool but VERY heavy.

[@gregdiamond6023]

I love the Fat Electrician. He’s so entertaining and educational at the same time. You should do his spy with the artificial leg. Really interesting.

[@peterthompson8014]

The chip's act has brought our microchip production back home.

[@Demonslayer20111]

Wouldn't be so sure about that. TSMC is building fabs in Phoenix, but they are bitching the entire time about how Americans don't want to literally work themselves into an early grave like the Taiwanese do back home

[@Doubie.]

Not the high end ones we developed just the last gen military ones

[@peterthompson8014]

@Doubie. yes. The high-end ones. All types of micro chips. Low-end, high-end, all of them. It's also bringing back research and development. That's not only how it should be. It's how it has to be. American tech companies are pulling out of China.

[@George-ux6zz]

When I was in the US Army I had the M16 A1 rifle with the M 203 grenade launcher. I liked it, the M16 A1 was very accurate, it never jammed, and I could make a headset at 400M easy. The M 203 grenade launcher was a 40 mm × about 4" round. I could fire that and have the grenade land on an enemy combatant. All you hear when you fire it was a little thump. You could watch the round going down field. The M4 is also a good and accurate weapon, my son has one.

[@wittsullivan8130]

The M-4 with the new M855A2 rounds is Very Good. The M-4 with the Special Force and Marine issued 77 grain rounds is incredible. Headshots at 200-300 yards.

[@Raver_S_Thompson]

Batteries are the reason my ar platform doesn’t have anything but iron sights. Work at 500 yards, works at 10 yards. Never have to recharge.

[@Cody38Super]

I love y'all reacting to TFE, it makes me laugh because I feel your uncomfortability...of what is he gonna say next.

[@wittsullivan8130]

Batteries. Right now, the average soldier has to carry at least 3 or 4 different batteries, plus chargers for their personal devices (tablets, phones, or laptops) so they can entertain themselves during their personal time. Their personal flashlight, weapon light, night vision goggles (aka NODS or Night Observation Devices), their laser sight, their communications unit, their electronic headphones which act as sound amplification, hearing protection, and a speaker for their comms (radio) mostly use a different kind of battery and most of them are quickly depleted within hours or less. A version of the electronic sight in this video has been tweaked for the new rifle and machinegun the Army is about to adopt, the XM-7 and the XM-250. The new sight combines a lot of devices into one: it's a scope that can be used close up or adjusted for distance, a laser rangefinder, a UV laser sight to work with the soldier's NOD's, a night vision scope if they don't have NOD's, a camera for stills and video, it's got GPS, it communicates with other soldiers and the chain of command, it's a ballistic calculator, a weather station, and a power supply for other electronics like a weapon light. The new scope is heavy, but it's lighter than all the individual devices it replaces, plus there's only one kind of battery to control everything, which will eliminate pounds of extra batteries and chargers they would carry around. Plus, you can use it to designate and save up to ten targets at different locations and ranges on the battle field and share the data with other soldiers so they can assign targets amongst themselves or their commanders can assign the targets around. It won't aim for you, but it adjusts the reticle and gives you a signal when the barrel is pointed at the right spot to increase your chances of a hit instead of guessing where to aim.

[@jasonnelson6624]

It is big, and meaty! Oh yeah nice. 😂

[@johnlarue2248]

Sooooo..your gonna have a Marine armed with a C-130 Hercules rifle?? The M16A2 was just fine thank you. LOL....This one is pretty accurate.....HEY! I was a "Grunt" Corpsman with the Marines! We like being called "grunts" LOL....

[@InimitaPaul]

KE in the lab = Kenetic Energy KE in the field = Kill Enemy HE in the lab = High Explosives HE in the field = Really Kill Enemy

[@BillO964]

There is no such thing as a "fair" fight. My dad taught me that. No hand wring over this one.

[@nullakjg767]

Yeah the brits were using mass starvation as a tactic not even a century ago.

[@NigelTanabe-x3c]

As an army infantryman aka “a grunt” we’re not offended by being called that. In fact we’re proud of it.

[@CarbineMonoxide]

Former 11B/infantryman/grunt. Came here to say exactly this. It might be surprising to some non-military, but there’s actually a phrase used by some grunts to make fun of non-combat service members: “POG” (person other than grunt) which is often considered derogatory.

[@matthewlaird5235]

Former Navy Aircrew / AW. My brother was 101st Airborne Scouts, with two tours in Iraq. The first time I ever heard the term POG was in a story he told about waiting in the chow line after losing most of his team clearing out a school, and the soldiers in front of him were complaining about their living conditions. He referred to them as effing POGs (he of course said the bad word).

[@greghamann2099]

Thank you for bringing this to my attention. Good work.

[@ThatShyGuyMatt]

It was a big weapon of the future years ago. But many sort of figured it wouldn't end up being the weapon of the future.

[@ScottyM1959]

Well the M203 grenade launcher shoots a 40mm grenade as compared to a 25mm that is lighter and can be considered a rifle round, granted a BIG rifle round.

[@Demonslayer20111]

I just don't get how this is illegal but 20mm flak rounds arent

[@steeljawX]

@@Demonslayer20111 I'm not an expert on the politics and socio-ethics of the whole thing, but I believe it's all about the main purpose/intent behind the rounds. The 25mm and 20mm grenades launched from that are intended for soft targets, aka humans. 20mm flak as its intended purpose is to damage aircraft or armored vehicles with soft targets being collateral. I'm mainly speculating this because you can technically rain down 105mm artillery on to people with no issue. But if you level that gun and fire an APERS round (Anti-Personnel), it's suddenly frowned upon because an APERS round is basically artillery flechette. The round is fired, it bursts and then a shotgunning of little metal darts flies in the direction the round was fired. That apparently is against the Geneva Convention. Firing a 105mm thermobaric high explosive round is apparently all good to the convention. Again, it's the "intent" of the round. It could be argued that the high explosive round designates anti material, so it's legal just as flak is "anti material vs air vehicles". Doesn't mean anything when it's used outside its intended purpose.

[@wittsullivan8130]

They did develop 12 gauge grenades that worked similar to these. 12 gauge shotgun shells are 20mm, which are too small to be "legal" explosive shells. 25mm explosive shells are "okay" though. This determination comes from the 1860's from a document written by Abraham Lincoln as instructions for the Union army to act during the Civil War.

[@grogvaughan5649]

You should check out the video about the origin of the Quackbang.

[@shadowhunter343]

The underslung grenade-launcher is a single (bigger) grenade meant to give range to infantry’s grenades. The xm29/25 is a semiautomatic launcher meant solely to introduce shrapnel into soft targets.

[@hendyallen5993]

The Grenade launcher under barrel is called the M203.

[@warrendavis9262]

James and Millie, the issue is not the lethality, it's the size, which can have it be confused with a bullet...

[@ZacharyH20]

In case anyone was wondering, the 25mm grenades weighed approximately 9.5 oz (270 grams) accoring to wikipedia, so they were indeed under the 400 gram definition and it wasnt even close. But the standard 40mm grenades that are still used today are also under 400 grams in weight. 🤔 🤔 🤔

[@flightmaster529]

Explodes in air directly over a wall? Sweet, we can now overpressure infantry instead of tanks.... that sounds fun actually.

[@derrickevans8491]

That's why we can't have nice things, cause someone always ruins it.

[@ginny5764]

I think the movie clip was from Terminator 2: Judgement Day because the cyborg that was blown up was played by Robert Patrick (he wasn’t in the first movie).

[@CaptainFrost32]

Edit it in post-production if needed, but stay to the last second for his bloopers, final comments, and teasers.

[@randalmayeux8880]

Hi guys! If I'm not mistaken, you can't even use hollow point or soft nosed bullets in a military weapon.

[@warrendavis9262]

You ain't mistaken, sir...

[@taylorcronin955]

Definition of "War Crime" is decided by who's best at it.😊

[@tutwilson6590]

I think another good “Fat Electrician “ reaction video is where he talks about the company LIQUID DEATH. Hilarious!

[@jamesclark4388]

Through this entire video I was thinking, what about the M-203? It does the same thing and can be mounted under a M-16. Only it handles larger rounds. I believe you can configure them to explode at a specific distance. And they are LEGAL. As far as war is concerned.

[@jamesclark4388]

Oh, the M-203 has been around since at least the 70's. Maybe that is why. Can't be having a weapon that's that old. Sort of like the 1911.

[@Archerfish1977]

the M-203 launches a 40mm grenade, which weighs enough to be considered ordinance, not an exploding bullet.

[@DFVaun]

@@Archerfish1977 Actually its just over half the minimum per the St. Petersburg Declaration. Minimum is 400 grams, the M441 HE round is 264 grams. There is no reason one should be allowed and the other taken out of service, particularly as the US is not signatory to the ban, nor does the ban cover war against anyone not signatory to it.

[@terryminten4695]

My favorite part of all his videos is the keyboard warrior so accurate

[@steeljawX]

"Huh!! How dare you try to minimize my life's career! I'm no keyboard warrior, you degenerate! I'm a QWERTY Champion! Buh!"🤣🤣🤣🤣 But that gets me every time as well. Namely the "Huh!" and "Buh!" he does. It just makes me grin every time.

[@RyanGunn-yb6mu]

Because it less powerful than a 40mm and doesn’t kill but causes suffering. That’s why we still have the m203.

[@GorillaWithACellphone]

“The US Committed a war crime!?” Oh boy i wonder which of our war crimes they’ll talk about in this one

[@ChuckHuffmaster]

The United States pales in comparison to our nice neighbors to the north, our Canadian brothers are friendly until you piss them off and I'm glad we're allies

[@Cody38Super]

It's never a war crime the first time.

[@abelaldrete1535]

It's not a war crime the first time

[@GorillaWithACellphone]

@@Cody38Super doesnt apply to 90% of us war crimes

[@Cody38Super]

P.S. - 80% of the Geneva Convention is because of Canada!

[@Rebelrocker69]

But.. but.. but I wants a Baloney Mist Maker 2000.

[@callen6893]

You need to watch the USS Texas episode.

[@bulletproofpepper2]

Just make it bigger. Thanks for sharing.

[@jlastre]

I remember reading about this when the project started. Wondered what happened to it.

[@georgedykes5533]

The grenade launcher attached under the M 16/M4 fires a 40 mm grenade one at a time.

[@FrogmanAnime]

Oh, the fat electrician used to be an army medical officer a.k.a. the doc, This is why he’s so well versed in the lingo.

[@johnokland1652]

The distinction was made to be that using anything would be considered anti material against an infantry target is illegal so penetrating explosive rounds are considered overkill on infantry basically to give the peace of mind that someones son could possibly get fixed up by doc or at the very least get a respectful open casket service for serving their country but then what about land mines or frag grenades artillery but you can't shoot a single human being with a 50 cal but a plane can do a fly by with 30 mm auto canons and wipe a whole platoon fine it makes no sense

[@beezysbeatz4924]

Possibly, and the UK can have an opinion right after they return 90% of every piece of art it "liberated" in it's museums.

[@jamesmilton6529]

Its only a war crime if you lose

[@Billmaster115]

War crimes rhyms with good times

[@NickolasNuber]

Just the first two "Terminator" movies are worth watching.

[@Pewpew1789]

I am so happy you guys have Archie you both seem very happy

[@deloughi1887]

I guess this guy doesn't count the under barrel grenade launcher as a grenade launcher, which has been used for decades..

[@Crusty_Comrad]

traditional "grenade launchers" have significantly shorter range than "exploding bullets"

[@williambranch4283]

Weapons that are slightly better makes a difference ;-)

[@anthonyramirez9003]

What is funny about him.. Even when he is pushing a app or what not. Its still entertaining. He is just a natural story teller. Also a 5.56 round is a known as a NATO round. Which is what is standard for most NATO countries ammo. Opposite of that is the 7.62 round that AK 47 and its variations use.

[@tonygumbrell22]

There is a 7.62 NATO round. The 5.56 round replaced it for many uses but the 7.62 is still around. By-the-way the civilian version of the 7.62 NATO round is .308 Winchester. Also, the 7.62 NATO round is NOT interchangeable with the AK-47 round which is a Soviet round dating to late World War II.

[@marklar7551]

I think....a Terminator 2 reaction is called for 🗿👽🗿

[@ghstdnsr]

M-16 is my weapon of choice, Own 3 variations of it for myself.

[@joetheulen728]

No you have 3 AR15s lol no way in hell you have an actual m16 much less 3 😂😂😂 3 round burst is a no no

[@ghstdnsr]

@@joetheulen728 No shit, that is what variations means, said nothing about burst rounds. BTW I am allowed to own a M-16. and have.

[@joetheulen728]

@ghstdnsr no m16 has multiple variations like m16 A2. AR15 is complete different.

[@joetheulen728]

@@ghstdnsr then you must have the proper licensing

[@leetsausage]

@@joetheulen728 Plenty of people own M16s, they're legal in the US so long as they were made before 1986. The only issue is the cost, a quick search shows them currently selling for anywhere between $30k and $60k.

[@docjohnson1]

War crime=political pressure or you lost. War is hell

[@-JA-]

🥺 Never! Uncle Sam's a teddy bear!

[@warrendavis9262]

I want one for Christmas!!!!

[@1995JediMaster]

Wait I remember this weapon didn't Zorg produce this weapon in the 5th Element?

[@zackfool8931]

Military spending explained. Military: we need brand new thing, thats better than thing we have now, with all the latest and greatest tech, as cheap as possible, your budget is all the money the Fed can print.

[@brandoncarlson2862]

The Army spent around 4 billion to develop camo that nobody wanted, and people pretty universally agree that it's a terrible camo pattern. Cause we just let people do whatever the fuck they want I guess.

[@hendyallen5993]

Aliens invade earth and we are bringing it back.

[@GallopingGrace77]

A grunt is a nickname for a marine

[@smartorstrong]

the reason its a problem is due to the separation of point target accuracy and area target accuracy.

[@sigsauer8660]

More of this channel

[@mrkoda3992]

It's the size and trajectory, the one on the m16 is a 40mm, limited range, this was a 25mm , essentially a giant exploding bullet, illegal

[@DFVaun]

Incorrect. Both the 40mm grenades of the M203/M320 and the XM29's 20mm/XM25's 25mm rounds are below the 400 grams specified in the only legislation actually describing exploding bullets. A treaty that only bans their use against other signatories, of which, the US is NOT one. So theres nothing stopping the US from developing and fielding them legally.

[@JerelleBowens]

The m16 shoots 40mm grenades compared to the 25mm grenades

[@colinjames7569]

Lasers. We need laser guns.

[@taylorcronin955]

Weve been snuggling baby turtle( plural) for years. Please pray for me.

[@militaryman815yt5]

In fact, that jet did crash

[@ScottLeeper-mm4is]

Hi again Beesley's ❤

[@manisahota6437]

Did the guy just admit to not seeing Terminator 2?

[@JG-PyroTX]

Honestly I don't care, our enemies have never cared if they commit a war crime before. Why should we get rid of a superior weapon because of international law.

[@corryburton9834]

Its never a war crime the first time....😅

[@Pouncealot2023]

Love your channel...I’d like to recommend a journey to the end of the universe by cool worlds channel

[@pandanemi-0239]

Sees thumbnail "The US committed a war crime!?" American history fan: well its not a rare thing for the US, just usually not talked about

[@aaronwieman8368]

It’s never a war crime the first time

[@joetheulen728]

If you win its never a war crime 😂😂😂

[@aaronwieman8368]

@@user-wc8fp4cx6c using civilians as weapons is already a war crime.

[@edwardmclaughlin719]

James takes his clothes off for the first time. Millie: Quite meaty.

[@TheGelatinousSnake]

I mean.. yes we have the capability to commit war crimes. I see the need to research and develop counter measures or counter tactics. We knowhow to make poison gas but we don’t deploy that stuff, we use it to test gas masks. Laser guns? Gotta test safety visors right? Hollow points are a war crime… we give it to police though 😂😢

[@Koyotito20]

Check out his Video on The Last War Chief please

[@Troysbuildsnlife]

thats a tiny grenade...

[@patrioticz2858]

I would of kept it anyway or at least made a bigger one that met the weight requirement for the ammo

[@DFVaun]

It met all the requirements per any and all restrictions the US is signatory to regarding exploding bullets (the US is not signatory to any). It was purely a cost issue and they wanted to cut it.

[@patrioticz2858]

@DFVaun well a big factor was the chip issue but the fix to that is just have more chip manufacturers in America

[@417jumps3]

The US still uses cluster munitions. According to NATO cluster munitions have been outlawed. Guess what - the US still uses them. Last time I checked when you go to war isn’t the goal to win….

[@sherryford667]

It's a war crime to have the best weapons and win the war. Who agreed to that? International bureaucrats?

[@sherryford667]

And, of course, the Chinese, the Iranians, the North Koreans, the Russians, Hamas, etc. All play by those rules too. Please don't tell me they signed some document the UN put in front of them. The Chinese are probably already using this weapon that the stupid Americans spent almost a billion dollars developing.

[@LeAbstracted]

I'M WITHIN THE HOUR!

[@THEBEASTRV]

Under barrel grenade launchers, not having programmable ordinance is the difference. They usually have one shot and are used to disable vehicles or breach doors. The idea of Smart grenades turns them into an anti personnel weapon that's the problem.

[@Sinkorswim1225]

Who gives a shit, especially when you are fighting against people who have no regard for human life most of the time anyway.

[@DFVaun]

Most 40mm grenades used by underbarrel launchers ARE antipersonnel. They may have other uses but at the end of the day, they're intended for engaging infantry. The whole reason underbarrel launchers were developed was to allow infantry to project fragmentation explosives farther than they could throw grenades by hand. The reality is, the government didn't want to pay for the XM25 anymore, so they tossed a perfectly good program. IIRC the US isn't even signatory to the ban on exploding bullets that *would* cover the XM25, which would also cover the M203 and M320.

[@jamiehill3621]

Good luck on the new job

[@zacharyricords8964]

I think its a bit ridiculous to call it a war crime tbh. They make it extremely difficult to advance basic weapons cause of politricks.

[@jameshunt9208]

Indeed

[@nullakjg767]

Also the one who decides what a war crime is are the ones who win.

[@steeljawX]

That's the insanity/stupid/ridiculous part about that weapon system. Today the norm is you have an assault rifle with an underbarrel attached auxiliary tool like a shotgun or grenade launcher. This reverses that where you have a grenade launcher with an underbarrel assault rifle. You fight with the main and utilize the underbarrel for situations as needed.....Basically this weapon system is implying that assault rifles are auxiliary tools and are not the main combat weapon of the future, programmable grenades are. I don't believe this is going to be standard issue as long as we're not pushed to use it, but it'll probably be something we keep in our pockets just in case. If you doubt me on that just remember this, the US military still has an active stockpile of M28 and M29 Davy Crockett Nuclear Recoilless Rifle systems and there's still 7 M65 Atomic Annie nuclear artillery cannons that can fire. Just because they were dumb ideas then, doesn't mean we won't keep them for that one rainy day.

[@eliduncan4630]

The US has committed many war crimes and crimes against humanity. This grenade launcher would have been one of them ( as it's against the Geneva convention to have a grenade smaller than 20 mm )had it been put into service

[@chrisrayburn]

No the m16 failure in Vietnam was due to wrong powder types that fouled the gun out. Everyone who had a cleaning kit did fine. Buy a lot of our people were unalived bcuz of government taking shortcuts on there own projects

[@jamesgirard1090]

For the life of me, I don’t even know why the US concerns itself with Geneva Convention NATO and United States are the only ones that it here to it

[@andrewchristopher7138]

Hi

[@TheKeithterry]

Never seen T-2??

[@deanlute794]

Brandon Herrera...... new video idea?

[@joebright4607]

You should definitely watch the terminator, and terminator two. They are a scary futuristic version of what seems to be now happening with the advancements in robotics and AI. We have some time before the machines take over, so check it out for survival training, or just because they are really good, entertaining movies. Bear in mind they were made in the eighties and we didn’t even have cell phones yet = foreshadowing.

[@Chordonblue]

Terminator 2 is a fantastic movie and it still holds up today. It features, in addition to many other visual treats, a nuclear explosion that is QUITE realistic. I remember some people CRYING in the theater during that sequence. Should be required viewing every time someone even THINKS that a nuclear war is survivable.

[@runrafarunthebestintheworld]

I'll be back.

[@joebright4607]

And 40 years later, he wasn’t lying was he ?@@runrafarunthebestintheworld

[@joebright4607]

Unfortunately those at ground zero would be the lucky ones. Surviving the initial blast would be really devastating. Then if you were outside enough to avoid radiation sickness, you would still have to contend with an absolute wasteland, because let’s face it, it’s not gonna be just one nuke. @@Chordonblue

[@runrafarunthebestintheworld]

Hasta la vista baby.

[@terrigaines1812]

I'm so confused.

[@rusmoody5198]

Please do SSGT. Reckless

[@devincorns409]

Ummm that never got adopted. Old news

[@Crowbars357]

*laughs in nuclear weapons*

[@Sekowon]

Only 1? LOL They make it an art to be able to get away with committing war crimes lmfao

[@flubber1557]

The specific terminator movie used was terminator 2 by the way. The one that exploded was a t-1000 or a liquid metal terminator. Its a great movie franchise. I highly suggest you watch it sometime. My favorites are the 1st three. After the 3rd things started going iffy for me in the franchise. To each their own opinion tho.

[@bmab67]

For the love of God please get her to stop eating so much

[@joe-gu8ms]

Don't mess with the u. S

[@drysiftwizard3469]

What did you do to your gf omg

[@johngrissom2242]

Meow

[@runrafarunthebestintheworld]

Woof