Broli the Saddest Blob - Dragon Ball Dissection: Super Warriors Crushed!! I Will Be the One Who Wins

Dragon Ball Dissection looks at the third and final Broli movie of the original run. But something has gone wrong. It's not Broli at all but some kind of bio-culture Broli clone! However, with #18, Goten, and Trunks leading the charge, does this movie have any redeeming elements, or is it just as bad as its reputation? Also, find out which contestant wins a copy of Dragon Ball: A Visual History.
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[@GurrenPrime]

“It’s time for the Broly section of the film, but first-” ad break.

[@GrandArchPriestOfTheAlgorithm]

Love it when that happens. No really, if we have to have ad breaks (and we sadly do) at least let it be funny.

[@karlrudd8914]

Ah man. Should've checked for this comment before I posted it

[@WolfXGamerful]

beautiful timing

[@dtay8913]

I like this movie, if only for goten and trunks solo action without immediately fusing

[@jackthegreek6092]

Yeah, I think fusion ultimately makes the two of them less interesting.

[@VICTORZITOSS]

And this includes them fighting as two kids in a trench code trope

[@StareachValcin]

I enjoy Goten and Trunks action, whether they fuse or not.

[@cjvaye99]

I know right? I hate how they aren't even individual characters anymore. Basically anything that happens they have to fuse. I mean can you imagine if Goku and Vegeta did that all the time?

[@jackthegreek6092]

@@cjvaye99 I wish something happened that made fusion not an option in some way. Maybe Goten just stops growing while Trunks gets taller to a point where they weren't compatible anymore. Anything to get Gotenks out of the picture for a bit.

[@Agumame]

Taking a break from buu for DBDTV would be really good imo. The Buu arc is going to be LONG, so breaking it up with some dbdtv on top of the movies would be good

[@spartanq7781]

He's doing it because this is the point in which it happens.

[@BagOfMagicFood]

And it helps break up the inevitable all-animated pileup of Movie 13, TV Cell Arc, TV Buu Arc, GT...

[@untunedguitar45]

Unless he decides to also cover the Super manga, that is…

[@bageltoo]

Always found it funny how Trunks uses a kamehameha in this movie. Vegeta would be absolutely pissed.

[@TheAzulmagia]

Vegeta doesn't get to complain when he and Goku have been the same person multiple times.

[@vandad13]

I think some people’s problems with this film could have been elevated if clone broil had gradually turned into the blob monster thoughout the fight creepy memorable imagery would have gone a long way

[@karlrudd8914]

Now there's a interesting idea

[@evangedeon2194]

You might be onto something there

[@Zacman1123]

Considering there's official Japanese artwork of Bio-Broly melting: that might've been the original idea.

[@austinraymond9136]

*alleviated

[@sumeracarnatia6997]

From what I’ve pieced together, Broly decomposing into his goopy appearance wasn’t because of the fluid, but because his body wasn’t fully developed. The bio-fluid was inside his tank, used to develop him, but when he broke his container and the fluid was put into open air, it became the corrosive expanding threat it is in the movie. However, this information seems to be exclusively found in Daizenshuu 6 so I wouldn’t blame anyone for not piecing that together.

[@DarthMeteos]

"Bio-Broli is very different from almost all of the other Dragon Ball Z movies." "This is the most glowing recommendation I am capable of giving."

[@FettManTAG]

I feel like this film's reception is less a product of the plot and more so how it treats Broli. I remember how big of a deal the "Legendary Super Saiyan" was when I was growing up, so for people to see this Icon of 'Merica style Rock the Dragon Ball Z turned into a goo monster and defeated by the C team was probably what detractors took away from the film, as opposed to what the film actually was.

[@juliandavidhoffer2022]

But a lot of us want to see a good fight and the first Broly movie had that in spades, everything else is secondary for a lot of us. Hell if I want some complex narrative struggle I can find just about any other franchise besides dragon Ball to give me that.

[@FettManTAG]

@@juliandavidhoffer2022 I enjoy a good DBZ beat-down myself. Please don't misunderstand, I'm not saying people are wrong for disliking this movie I'm just giving a guess from my experiences with the Dragon Ball series on why the film wasn't well received.

[@juliandavidhoffer2022]

@@FettManTAG I was probably six when my dad bought the first Broly movie and we loved that one so when Second Coming and Bio Broly came out we were both excited to watch it and I’ve never been more disappointed than after finishing that movie. We both thought it was so boring and nothing happened.

[@FettManTAG]

@@juliandavidhoffer2022 I'm not really sure what point you're trying to make? Nothing you're saying conflicts with anything that I've said.

[@juliandavidhoffer2022]

@@FettManTAG I was just sharing my experience with it.

[@michaelgilroy6729]

I love the Otherworld Tournament, so yeah, slot in a DBDTV somewhere for it before Fusion Reborn, that’d be awesome

[@GrandArchPriestOfTheAlgorithm]

I'll just repeat what I said about the last movie: Dragon Ball Fandom judges the work as a whole based only on the villain more than any other fandom I know off. It explains a lot.

[@Abdul54cp]

there is a bit of that in the naruto fandom but thats also because naruto villains are different

[@MakoShiruba]

It wouldn't be such a problem if the fight with the main guy was a bonus rather than the main event. It has been a long standing problem in Dragon Ball movies since the Z Era and while the last two movies do quite a work to move away, it still has the villain as "the main course"

[@Corredor1230]

@@Abdul54cp and in the One Piece fandom as well. A lot of arcs get a lot of hate because the villain is “bad”.

[@minixlemonade2335]

And muh power levels. Who cares I just want good writing.

[@romulusnuma116]

For a long while the only thing different about the movies were the villains so I can understand it when it comes to the movies

[@rroadagain2810]

The way I (want to) view Bio-Broli is as a personification of bringing the same villain back over and over again. In the first movie, he became, for better or for worse, this immensely popular character. (Something that has stuck long enough that he's now part of Super and all that) In the second movie, he was stripped down to his most basic traits, barely qualifying as a character anymore. Most fans hated it. Despite that, he came back here, where he's no longer even Broli, it's the long dead body of the horse once known as Broli. So little effort went into bringing him back that he's toxic sludge that no one wants to touch.

[@marxist-leninist-protagonist]

Dragon Ball Super is Bio Broli

[@JV-nm1fy]

Broly*

[@paperprince2953]

That is.. quite symbolic. And that's literally the best idea ever!!

[@randomfox12245]

I'm starting to think we seriously underestimate just how long it takes to produce a chapter of Shonen Jump manga. It's easy to fall into the Trap that because it is released on a weekly schedule that means it is also produced on a weekly schedule. By which I mean I think by this point it's clear that Toei has access to Toriyamas story ideas far before they see print in the Weekly Magazine. Take the cell Saga for example. We're led to believe that when toriyama's ex-editor saw Androids 19 and 20 he called Toriyama and told him to change that. But we don't see the story start moving in a direction where would even begin to start laying the foundations of introducing Android 17 and 18 until something like a month and a halfs worth of chapters. The same thing happens again when he starts laying hints about Android 16 because at that point they are sincerely the actual villains of the Arc, and Cell wouldnt be introduced until months later from there. I'm pretty sure Toriyama was probably submitting rough drafts of his story ideas or design concepts at the bare minimum months ahead of publication, and for production reasons Toei probably had access to those rough drafts. This makes stuff like toys Super Saiyan Goku movie coming out a week before the real Super Saiyan appearance in a chapter, or Dende being God before that would even be suggested in the manga, or this movie following up on a plot point from six months ago in the manga, far less eyebrow raising.

[@MistareFusion]

Oh, that's definitely the case. Toriyama was finished with chapters long before they saw the light of day. And other parties like Toei and Bandai were scooping up drafts on upcoming stories the second they were available. Even in as ramshackle an operation as mine, this video has been finished for a week and a half, and even that means I'm cutting things far closer than I'd like. More my point when I make statements like that is to point out how we tend to underestimate how much work and lead time goes into making these movies.

[@tiablue9106]

“I’M THE SAIYAN BOY! I’M THE ONE WHO WINS!”

[@karlrudd8914]

Gotta love youtube. "Now it's time for the Broly section of the film! But first..." *AD*

[@yotomoe5953]

13:16 To be fair, Random God Dende ages pretty good, absolutely unintentionally because most people are so used to Dende being god that unless you're very aware of the film timeline you won't even notice. It's the opposite really, it AGED well but it didn't premier well. I can't imagine what people who saw the movie at it's debut thought.

[@DBZMacky]

Yeah, it's been a while since the last DBD TV. The other world tournament would be a good break from Buu and his endless transformations/absorptions

[@aaa1e2r3]

06:20 I think that's something important to consider, back when the film came out, physical media collecting those moments weren't as much of thing back then. In the context of when this came out, being able to view a highlights of a show when you may have missed it when it was initially airing would hold so much more weight and value as to why they would format the movies like that. This is also why stuff like recap movies would be so popular. Yes, looking back at it now, it's somewhat repetitive and unnecessary but that's because we have modern tech and media where going back to previous episodes is significantly easier.

[@EnigmaBarry]

This. Lance touched upon this during the Hachiyack OVA, but the anime was always disposable, an advertisement for the manga. Things like the theatrical movies or even the video games meant you could get a self contained experience. Easier to buy Cooler's Revenge than to collect episodes of the entire Frieza arc. Even if you only care about the episodes where Goku actually fights Frieza, that's still 20 episodes.

[@OurKindofEntertainment]

I actually watched this movie last month for the first time in YEARRRRSSSSSSSS! I didn't hate it as much as I did back in the day. My biggest gripe when I first watched it was how we got such a major tease during the last few seconds when Goku was going to meet with Pikkon to fight Broly in Hell! That would've been awesome! What made me actually enjoy this film so much was the fact that Goten and Trunks ACTUALLY DID SOMETHING! They were in a serious fight (with some comedy sprinkled in, but for the most part this was a serious threat) for the first time in quite awhile. Yes, they did fight as Gotenks against Super Buu, but most of that fight was just them playing around. The battle with Bio-Broly was good because at least these two were part of the action instead of being pushed to the side as kids like in Super.

[@harrycarson6526]

Considering you really enjoy the latter 2 OG Broly movies im now even more curious too see your thoughts on the last 2 (pre BOG) Z films, the ones that are held in very high regard.

[@cjvaye99]

Fusion reborn and there's another one I forget the name? But i know Goku uses the Dragon fist as a SSJ3.

[@harrycarson6526]

@@cjvaye99 Wrath Of The Dragon (AKA Dragon fist explosion!! If Goku can't do it. who will!?) That the last OG Z film

[@cjvaye99]

@@harrycarson6526 thanks

[@mielthesquid6536]

@@harrycarson6526 my personal favorite and by far. I think Lance will like it, it has some originality, a new cool character and I think the soundtrack is totally exclusive to this movie (never used in the anime).

[@harrycarson6526]

@@mielthesquid6536 I think Lance will like the Tapion movie way more than the fusion one.

[@Powoga]

23:50 I always found this a bit weird. Does this mean there are two Brolys in Hell now, the original and the clone? I guess there's no reason why a clone shouldn't have a soul, but...

[@JakeSmith-mq5dc]

Ooh, imagine that is the plot of the 4th movie the epilogue eluded to. Broly vs Broly in HELL! Total edge fest right there, especially with them fighting for the right to kill Kakarot!

[@juliandavidhoffer2022]

Well in GT there were two 17s

[@AntonioCardenasT]

@@juliandavidhoffer2022 the one in hell was like an alternate 17 made by dr mu

[@juliandavidhoffer2022]

@@AntonioCardenasT it’s still two 17s and they were able to fuse.

[@adrianradtke3083]

TheParappa, who is one of my favorite KZbinr in Germany won in a contest made by mistarefusion , who is my favorite KZbinr in America. I was surprised to his name come up in your video. I never thought this crossover was going to happen XD

[@EmeralBookwise]

I absolutely think you should take a break from the manga for some more DBDTV. I think the sheer length of the Buu arc warrants it for a change of pace, not to mention that as it's the final arc, there really won't otherwise be anything else to cover in between the anime installments of Cell and Buu. As to this movie though, yeah, Brolly is probably the focal point of why it's so maligned. Fans who hate him just see his inclusion for the third time as tiresome, while fans who love him see him being just a clone who gets swiftly mutated as an insulting fake-out. All that aside, however, I actually quite enjoy this movie for everything else it has to offer for pretty much all the same reasons mentioned. It might not be the best DragonBall movie, but it might just be one of the most fun.

[@TylerCharlesFisher]

Anyone think that the Bio-Warriors of this film were modeled after Spopovich and Yamu?

[@BagOfMagicFood]

Bulging eyes as if they're about to explode!

[@chaosfreak8269]

I understand were you're coming from with the Broly trilogy remark. What however baffles me is Koyama's weak justification for it. It's kind of hilarious that he is struggling with one of Dragon Ball's biggest flaws, the power creep. However, Goku is dead and isn't the main protagonist in either of the Broly sequels so why worry about a opponent on his level? Goten, Trunks, Krillen, Videl and Android 18 are hardly the big guns of the the show at this point in time so why recycle Broly and even further water down what little character he already had? I don't get where Koyama is coming from at all, a case could be made for Gohan but he could just have come up with a new original villain to fight for Goten and Trunks in the third movie. All this quote is telling me is that Koyama has run out of ideas, Lmao!!

[@lilylopnco]

For real lol, "I couldn't come up with an opponent stronger"? Then... don't?

[@pascalsimioli6777]

I absolutely agree with you, thank you for making me see this h but I'd still cut some slack to the guy due to the fact that they were producing these movies without a real break. It must be hard to come up with a concept and a design in so little time, can't really make mistakes...

[@adama.7735]

I think this movie’s poor reputation is largely because most Dragon Ball fans don’t care to see a bunch of weaker side characters as the heroes of the story. They want Goku, Gohan and Vegeta and this movie doesn’t have that.

[@animewrld7012]

Also Broly second coming was a perfect ending to the Broly Character by letting him get blasted into the sun and killed by Goku,Gohan and Goten there was no need for another Broly movie with him getting cloned like wtf

[@scottgrasser9737]

it would be fine to have less strong characters but goten and kid trunks just kind of suck as leads by there nature of being hyper strong kids there cant really be any sense of stakes to the fight and there fighting a weak stupid and ugly version of something that has been killed twice already bio broly is not a good character in any way shape or form the film is fine...its certainly not a horrid mess but this far into the films there are better DBZ movies to watch

[@karlrudd8914]

@@scottgrasser9737 Yeah pretty much

[@juliandavidhoffer2022]

No, it’s literally because it doesn’t have a fight. Coming off of the heals of the first Broly movie where we get 40 minutes of fighting to this one is just jarring and if you want fighting this movie is boring and puts you to sleep.

[@kylefields3951]

5:45 EXACTLY!!! I love this movie and always have for this exact reason. I realised I was the odd one out in the fanbase when I found out how much people don't like this one, which is strange because this movie has some of the most tense action, and has some of the best choreography out of all 13 of the original films. Goten and Trunks are in over their head, 18 and Krillin are a good pair, and Mr. Satan can't do anything. I like almost all Dragon Ball characters but Goten and Trunks are some of my favourite just because Toriyama is so good at writing believable kid characters.

[@thewittywhygaming6487]

Gonna be honest. I love this movie. It's the only of the Z movies where Goku doesn't make the save. Plus it gives Goten more characterization by having him.focus on saving people over the fight with Broly. So bazaar, but so fun to watch; at least for me.

[@Trxpamvs]

I think this movie is fairly overhated I actually like this one for focusing on Goten & Trunks and them being somewhat competent in this movie

[@moostrue_2771]

While I want to continue in the story following the manga, I feel it would be much more linear for a typical viewer if you at least caught up to around the mini Otherworld arc following the TV adaptation of the Cell arc. If that makes any sense

[@TactlessC]

Considering Movie Pikkon and TV Pikkon are basically two different characters with how they act, where movie Pikkon is a blustery and cocky like a Discount Vegeta, and TV Pikkon is like "Hey what if Piccolo was actually able to keep up with the Saiyans in power" I don't particularly think trying to speed up and cover it is gonna matter.

[@therealthirst8099]

I think it would be nice to have a bit of a diversion into DBDTV since the Boo Arc is proving to be so long. Perhaps you could cover the Other World Tournament filler arc.

[@Corredor1230]

I’ve been following DBD for like six or seven years by now (I started watching during the red ribbon army arc, or maybe it was the piccolo arc), and you’re the only channel that still gets me excited with every single release. I love how the editing, general quality, review style is consistent throughout, and I love how you as a person manage to provide your own personal opinions while remaining fair to the series. I literally started watching as a high school student and now I’m an employed college graduate. Thank you for all your work Lance! I love this series!

[@TheAzulmagia]

I barely remember what Pikkon's deal was beyond him fighting Goku and Goku using Super Saiyan + Kaioken on him. I think when I was younger, I just assumed he was Piccolo's older brother or something. I'm kind of curious how you'll feel about Fusion Reborn, though, especially given how positively the fanbase tends to look at that one. It's one extended fight sequence, as I recall, so I imagine you won't like that aspect of it too much.

[@spritvio639]

Ah yes, this is where the "KAKAROOOOOT" Memes began

[@didgeridude8430]

Naw that was movie 10 lol

[@imperators_8700]

Wasn’t that in the last movie

[@juliandavidhoffer2022]

@@imperators_8700 yes it was

[@didgeridude8430]

I’d enjoy seeing DBD TV Cell and DBD TV Other World Tournament! Could be a nice break in the action from the Boo Arc.

[@renegadedjinn5325]

Devil Artimis Cell: RETURN IT FROM WHEREVER THE FUCK IT CAME FROM! Kermit: oh come on. It's not that bad Cell. Cell: The horrible character design is forever ingrained into my mind. I'M MENTALLY SCARRED!

[@sumerapaleema610]

A way to improve the threat perhaps could be to switch its weaknesses to water to coldness. At one point, one of the heroes sees the fluid touch water and be slowed by it, but not stopped. So they instead need to find a way to get a low enough temperature to freeze and stop the fluid and Broly, as because water only slows it down, it would still be able to slowly but eventually reach the mainlands through the ocean.

[@bellowingsilence]

I have to argue with the idea that the villain in each movie was always stronger than the last in a silly way: I really think an army of robot Coolers was probably stronger than a few C-list Androids, completely ignoring what plot devices end up defeating them. (And yes. Plot devices. In Z movies, the villains are almost always defeated by plot devices. Actually, Gohan has the top kill count for non ass pull big bad kills in these movies, despite being a baby for one of them.

[@Rationalific]

I'm not even a Broly fan, nor do I think I've ever watched this movie, but even I can see why people hate it. They done did Broly dirty. You can't have a popular enemy and then reduce him to sludge. I think that's the main gripe.

[@DemonicRemption]

@Rationalific Well as a Broly fan, that was one of my gripes. Broly was reduced to a grunting pile of sludge. That and how he was defeated was lack-luster.

[@Redeyblagon]

This was the first Broly movie I watched as a kid. Yes, I started with the third one and obviously, I was very confused. Don't blame me, blame my local Blockbuster. They didn't have the previous ones available :(

[@AvronPlays]

I should really rewatch these movies. I really hated this one when I was younger but it sounds only kinda disappointing the way you describe it. For me if I had to guess it’s less that they waist Broly by making him a goo monster, it’s that they somehow manage to make him less threatening when they do. He should be EVEN more dangerous with this weird sci-fi ability of having melting slime under his control, but the floor is lava is an easy game to wind when you can fly.

[@R.J.Godzilla81]

This was my second DBM (my first being Wrath of the Dragon). Like you, I half liked it, and since I wasn’t familiar with Broly at all, I never had a problem with how the not character was treated. I watched it because it featured Android 18. For me Dragon Ball is at its most enjoyable when it’s being funny.

[@AOJW0401]

I've been watching these videos for 2-3 years now and have never engaged. But since you asked...this is the best Dragonball breakdown on the internet. I cannot stand the current direction of Dragonball, so to hear this take on this movie's break from the tired formula is very refreshing.

[@luigibarqs]

I remember marathoning the DBZ movies 2 years back, and I actually remember liking this one since characters where getting attention and spotlight that don't normally do, and the antagonist having an interesting weakness.

[@therealhardrock]

Lord Jaguar (the dub name for Jaga Batta) comes of as being kind off like John Hammond from Jurassic Park (even more like the one from the novel than from the movie). Someone who harnesses the power of science to create something powerful but severely underestimates how powerful it is and how it could get out of control. And it's for petty revenge.

[@Tracker947]

The fluid changed when it came into contact with air, hence the whole "it broke containment"

[@juliandavidhoffer2022]

How did they synthesize it without it ever touching the air?

[@Tracker947]

@@juliandavidhoffer2022 Same way they handle materials that combust when they come into contact with air, I imagine. Or perhaps they only synthesized the various components of the substance within a controlled space. Who knows.

[@juliandavidhoffer2022]

@@Tracker947 a lot of work just to beat a Martial Arts champion. It had to be cheaper just to hire one of the giants in the world and fill him with Steroids.

[@DreballinArts]

This movie came out a little over 5 months before I was born and it's crazy knowing how much of this franchise existed before then.

[@coyotestylepro1150]

Now that you mention it "Broly In HFIL" would slap

[@Aust51989]

I liked how we get a glimpse into Mr. Satan’s past and who his rivals are.

[@AxleMyths]

After watching all 13 DBZ movies. I can comfortably say that this is my 2nd favorite movie... Because it mixes it.up a bit. My first is the fusion reborn. Because it's a dumb fun action movie. And because nobody asked my 3rd is World's Strongest, which has the best tone and animation of the bunch. Oh... And yes... Yes you should do some DBZD TV

[@legokraytdragon]

I noticed during one of the screenshots that Clone Broly has a tail. Since they wanted to do something new with him, I wonder if they ever considered making him go Great Ape, whether that be with or without the slime. Would have been interesting to see Goten and Trunks' reactions to that. I guess Krillin might be the only one to know why, unless the others were taught or 18 has it stored.

[@juliandavidhoffer2022]

That’s what Super Broly should have done, but instead that movie was just a missed opportunity.

[@HughAverageHomoMan]

@@juliandavidhoffer2022 We really don't need DBS Marks freaking out over a great ape possibly being able to fight a super blueberry saiyan.

[@juliandavidhoffer2022]

@@HughAverageHomoMan it would have been better than him having the power without the transformation

[@HughAverageHomoMan]

@@juliandavidhoffer2022 not going to agree or disagree, this is a topic that can get heated and tiring very quickly

[@juliandavidhoffer2022]

@@HughAverageHomoMan you refer to people as “DBS marks” but you are defending Super Broly?

[@moesabally1502]

I have a feeling that the fake Broly was not going to be the villain originally, and was just a completely new villain until the last minute. I mean he looks nothing like Broly after being covered up in goo.

[@olserknam]

Keeping your previous opinions in mind, I knew you'd like this one. I have a soft spot for it as well. Even if I personally think Movie 10 was still stale and boring for the most part, this one really ups the ante and feels much closer to a crazy light-hearted adventure you'd see in early Dragon Ball days, not bogged down in power levels or fighting for the sake of it. It's not my favorite, but it's fairly good and I feel like it only gets hated by rabid Broly fans for the most part.

[@gavinlucas9761]

I’m very glad that after movie 7 they stopped the generic formula of the previous movies and have been inching further and further away from it. I’m looking really forward to the next 2 movies as there easily my favorite out of the 13 DBZ films.

[@Yuli_Ban]

This movie could've been salvaged if Koyama ran with the idea of Broly causing trouble in Hell _on top of_ Bio-Broly existing. You can have the same dynamics and characters, and you could also have it reflect what's going on in the manga at the same time: Bio-Broly is initially a chaotic monster, until Mr. Satan tames him like he did Majin Boo, and then Bio-Broly basically turns "good," losing his bloodlust, maybe even befriending Goten (as a contrast to Tapion befriending Trunks, and symbolically important considering this is Mini Goku befriending a form of Broly). That is until the real Broly emerges from Hell, his power too great to be contained or maybe his fight with Super Saiyan 3 Goku accidentally opening a wormhole to the world of the living (ala Super Boo and Gotenks), and the end of the movie can only come by Bio-Broly sacrificing himself to destroy the soul of the original Broly. That certainly would have worked way more, without needing to rely on the formula or even changing the characters who appear, instead better utilizing Mr. Satan throughout the rest of the movie instead of just the beginning.

[@shmikex]

21:32 ... Krillin's face... 18's face...

[@prometheusmodelow8322]

The best moment in the movie lol.

[@JakeSmith-mq5dc]

I love seeing how Goten and Trunks work as a duo here. I am convinced that Gon and Killua were at least a little inspired by them. I love the DBZ movies, if for nothing else, how they utilize the rest of the cast (except the humans). I mean, Hercule, 18 and Krillin were great in this and didn't need any headliners for back up. (I care about the adventure and couldn't care less about the villains) I wish they used these movies like a rough road map for the types of stories they can use for the series. I know it's wishful thinking, but I feel like Super should've been an ensemble cast from the start rather than a Main lead with a supporting cast because by this point, most of the cast members are all icons in their own rights and have fans wanting them to get a lot more screen time.

[@alimowla3204]

8:03 with this and dead zone, krillin sure has crappy luck when it comes to toddlers needing to use the bathroom.

[@Chris-th5fl]

i like because goten and trunks are the stars. these two have much potential and are underuse in the franchise. also yeah you could do a small.break to go into the pikkon stuff.

[@SuperCuttyBlackSow]

Finally Krillin and 18 get some love

[@MarisaReset]

I'm with you on this. I went into it thinking "Great, another Broly movie. Wonder if I should drink a few cups of coffee so I don't fall asleep?" (That's not even hyperbole, I actually started nodding off during the fights in the first two Broly films!) After watching it for the first time I can't believe people don't like this one, I found it one of the least boring DBZ movies by far. It was fun, funny, had plenty of both serious and comedic action scenes, and like you said it changed up the formula of the last bunch of movies. Even the inclusion of the World's Blandest Non-Character (Broly) couldn't bring down how fun it is. I'm not a big fan of the DB movies in general, but I think it's one of my favorites, honestly.

[@garrettcarter5622]

Hey, in your fictional scenario, if Broly gets covered in the goo that dissolves all organic life, wouldn’t that make 18 the only fighter that can hit him directly since she’s a robot. Ya know, have her be the Ace in the Hole that the heroes need to win, create an exciting climax that requires all four of them to work together. Just a thought.

[@ZipplyZane]

The problem is that she's an artificial human, not an android. That said, maybe her artificial nature could harden her against that stuff.

[@australiazone3723]

When I saw DBZ movie 11 for the first time, I was vaguely aware of the plot of movie 12 and was feeling hyped up for the next movie on the back of Goku's end cameo. I thought that there may have been a link between movie 11's set-up and the events of movie 12. I not saying the next movie had to be Broly related, but I was mildly disappointed. When you think about it, this could have just worked!

[@talesfromthenuzlocke1619]

Gem guy’s Icarus divorce idea is too damn good

[@egebamyasi2929]

Kid Trunks and Goten are always a joy for me to watch

[@The_One_In_Black]

I find it funny that most negative reviews of this focus primarily on Broly, where you barely mention him directly for most of the video.

[@leafbladie]

Oh wow, I just realize, #18, Goten, Trunk, and Krillen. This is the same back-up crew that Gohand Piccolo got in Super Hero

[@romulusnuma116]

21:34 I feel like this images could be a meme format

[@aquanaridllcl970]

Seeing a show going for soo many years, and yet be here the day of the new upload feels me with soo much joy, keep up the Incredible work

[@xExotic]

Kinda sucks that goten and trunks aren’t useful in super cause the buu arc really sets them up to have potential.

[@musicfighter282]

Wow I didn’t even think that we’d likely be getting Paikuhan in Movie 12 before you go back to DBD TV. May not be a bad idea to get to the Afterlife Tournament, but geez that would also mean covering the Cell Arc. That’s a lot of work!

[@MicahBuzanANIMATION]

I kinda love and hate this movie. Broly is the biggest let down in this film, but I love the focus on all the secondary characters. It's refreshing to see 18 get some love, and some of the ideas are at least more original than the typical DBZ movie.

[@JuniorRDZ04]

Cool. You watched Mistare Fusion as well 😎👍

[@Rar-u2f]

I really like this movie. Those pieces of coreography in the Goten and Trunks vs Broly fight are just really nice

[@alonk1060]

Ah MistareFusion, always providing new insights on things and causing me to reevaluate my own thoughts and opinions.

[@victorkaranja1420]

As a fan of db sol drama I quite enjoy this if only for the 18 love. Honestly it's just fun to see seprate parts of the cast interact and it kinda sucks it's all fighting cus it's clear alot of them could carry their own in their own side storys, movies, arcs, etc

[@silentguy6733]

I didn't know that the anglo db fanbase disliked this movie. Db movies should give the spotlight to underused characters like in this one.

[@fnraraw4353]

I expect everything but that i see the parapa in this review blow me away.

[@ianury5614]

Thanks MistareFusion! Really fun review! I'm not too into the movie but your explanation does make me want to give it a watch, but it does make me want to watch the previous movie even more. Just one criticism and that is, my last name is pronounced like "Yuri". Just like the Russian first name. Glad to participate and all those enteries were funny!

[@MistareFusion]

I'm very sorry! The worst part is that I think I remember actually pronouncing it that way on my first take, assuming I was saying it wrong, and then going back and "fixing" it.

[@ianury5614]

@@MistareFusion No problem. I get why, it looks confusing. It happens all the time, I get Urrry, Dury, Ur and stuff like that, so yours was closer than a lot of people. Thanks for the show!

[@Jotari]

Covering the Afterlife tournament at least before the next movie video seems wise.

[@conanfan1412]

Considering how much there's still left to cover of the Boo Arc, it would probably be best to get through the Cell Arc of DBTV soon (along with the Afterlife Tournament, akin to how you did the Garlic Jr Arc right after the Freeza Arc). Otherwise, DBTV's gonna be covering the Cell AND Boo Arcs in a row.

[@trainmaster997]

Is there any chance you could add proper subtitles to your videos?

[@MistareFusion]

Well, since you asked, I just added them to this one!

[@trainmaster997]

@@MistareFusion thank you!!! And while I don’t expect you to be able to add subtitles to every episode of dragon ball dissection or every video on your channel any time soon, could you please try to add subtitles to your videos in the future right out to the gate?

[@MistareFusion]

@@trainmaster997 I think I'm going to try. In many cases I will make changes to a script as I'm recording. When I did my recording for the next episode the other day, whenever I would deviate from the script I would make sure to rewrite it that way too so that I could make captioning easier. So you definitely left an impression on me. If you don't mind me asking, are you hearing impaired? Not that you have to be in order to want captions. I tend to watch things with captions and subtitles myself. But I am curious as to whether or not I have any viewers who fit that category, and what use they've managed to get out of my videos up to now/how well auto-captions have worked, etc.

[@trainmaster997]

@@MistareFusion As far as I know, I am not hearing impaired, but I still very much appreciate subtitles. Either way, especially because youtube removed Community Captions, most hearing impaired people would probably appreciate it. Auto-captions are better than nothing, but they're not amazing, which goes doubly so for videos like yours, given the combination of some japanese names and fantasy words. But either way, thank you for trying to make the effort to add subtitles to videos in the future! Though I will say that if you wanted to add captions for the previous videos using the auto sync, I think it's ok to use the original script even if you occasionally go off script. Considering how many DBD episodes there are, even ignoring the other videos on your channel, I think trying to go through every single one, checking for going slightly off script, and modifying each one, is unreasonable. Of course, if there is a whole paragraph that isn't in the script, that's a bit different, but I think it's better to have good but slightly inaccurate subtitles than none/bad youtube auto-generated ones.

[@manjiimortal]

This was the other film I only watched when it aired on TV, and even then I think I only watched the last half of it, and because the airing rights weren't bought by the same TV channel that aired the anime, so they used a different dubbing studio for it, and the voices of the characters were really jarring. This one, much like the previous one I've never watched in full, making it the only "classic era" Dragon Ball Z movies I've yet to watch (there's also the Dragon Ball movie that came out when GT was airing). Funnily enough, the next two movies were the only ones I saw in the cinema, as they put them together in order to reach feature length, despite being two separate stories. Thanks for the videos!

[@fabledredeyes]

The otherworld tournament arc having its own video mid-buu review makes sense, frankly. Not that there's much to *say* and it'd be a good entree before we get one of the best parts in the buu arc (Mr Satan becoming friends with buu)

[@Trunks1stApprentice]

At first, I was going to say that you don't need to stop covering Buu to and get back to DBDTV. Pikkon (yes, Pikkon. I'm not as highbrow as you, Lance) is the kind of thing you could cover quickly in barely a few sentences. Like you did with King Vegeta when you covered the first Broly movie. But then I realized that the South, East, West, and Grand Kaio all also appear in the movie, even if it's just quick cameos. And they directly reference the Otherworld Tournament that Goku and Pikkon fought in right at the start. And if I think about anymore, I'm sure the more both of us would realize the movies are pulling from that would need explaining. So I say keep going with Buu until you reach the release date of the next movie, then cover DBDTV and Movie 12 back to back.

[@Tirgo69]

Fantastic thing to go up right when I get home from work, also the only DBZ movie I've never seen. Cheers.

[@KremBotop]

“Super Warriors” in the movie’s title?! Now we know where the French, Big Green, European Spanish and Catalonian dubs got that term from (?)

[@Ataru320]

Why does this always happen to me? Um...wait a few years and you'll be bouncing enemies yourself. And be made of rubber.

[@Gardetrace]

Hey, Lance. I've been curious about the names you use for the movies. You refer to this movie as "Super Warriors Crushed!! I Will Be the One Who Wins," yet Kanzenshū refers to it as "Super-Warrior Defeat!! I'm the One Who'll Win." You call Movie 3 "The Ultimate Decisive Battle for Earth," they call it, "A Super Decisive Battle for Earth." You call Movie 5 "The Extraordinary Mightiest vs Mightiest," they call it "The Incredible Strongest vs Strongest." You call Movie 8 "Burn Up!! Hot fight, Fierce Fight, Super Violent Fight," they call it "Burn Up!! A Red-Hot, Raging, Super-Fierce Fight." Where did you get the alternate names? I know some of the different words used are synonyms, but I've been wondering what sources you use for the different names and which names have more merit than the others, if they even do.

[@MistareFusion]

That's a good question. And the answer is... I don't really know if I have an answer. I certainly don't have a consistent answer. I think sometimes I pull certain word choices from Kanzenshuu. Other times it's the official subtitles. Oddly enough, just as often some of those names are embedded in me from late-'90s, early-2000s fandom. For whatever reason, from whatever place, I've always known movie 3 as "The Ultimate Decisive Battle for Earth." Obviously I check other sources to be assured of the veracity. But like you said, if it's just quibbles over synonyms, then I tend to go with what sounds better to me.

[@Gardetrace]

@@MistareFusion Fair enough. I've been debating which names I should go with, but it seems like there's more than one correct answer.

[@spritvio639]

Some of ya'll are time travels, how are your comments from 6 days ago when the video just came out?

[@redhunter8731]

They support the channel and see it early

[@spritvio639]

@@redhunter8731 Oh, I see...

[@jamiemcneil9682]

Thank you. This film isn't as bad as people make out. I love the teamwork in this film. I wish broly stayed in his human form longer before turning to slime.

[@descendantofartorias2067]

The relationship between Goten, trunks and Videl kinda reminds me of Goku, krillin, and blooms in the red ribbon arc.

[@josesosa3337]

You know, dragon ball movies would be a perfect chance to give side characters stuff to do. A roshi movie? A movie about yajirobi? Bio broly starring trunks, goten, krillen, and #18 being makes for a good example.

[@Tokumastu1]

I'm honestly surprised Dragon ball hasn't used the cloning as a means of making villain in the main series. It took me watching this movie to realize that.

[@DragonBallSuperDope]

When you started off with saying this movie is somewhere in the middle, I thought you were joking, but your reasoning has me reconsidering a lot of stuff.

[@raph789]

Always amazing videos, thank you!

[@cjsher90]

You make good points that make me question everything I've ever felt about DB. Lol

[@marcus7984]

A question I see sometimes about this film is, why didn't Trunks and Goten use fusion for Gotenks. And you covered it in the video at 14:28. I was happy seeing that, good job! I'd really like seeing the Otherworld tournament with DBD TV. I wouldn't mind a little break!

[@SumTr011]

Despite it's reputation, I enjoy this Z movie a lot. My only issue with it...is that it shouldn't be a Broli movie. That's the film's biggest detractor for me personally, can't wait to hear your thoughts on it.

[@didgeridude8430]

Agreed , had they picked a different villain for the movie it’d be way more interesting.

[@Videospiel-Man5730]

@@didgeridude8430 how about a bio pilaf gang!

[@SumTr011]

@@Videospiel-Man5730 I would have loved to see where that could have went! Honestly, it had more potential than Broli.

[@dvader518]

AFAIK, this is the only time where Trunks used the Kamehameha.

[@JakeSmith-mq5dc]

I actually wished that the Fusion instead of being written out entirely or becoming their main focus point, would change as they develop and mature through puberty. So they'll alternate as who's personality will head the fusion, so both the Fusion's fighting style and personality will reflect their growths. Example, thanks to Future Trunks' influence on Trunks, he could now take training and studies more seriously like his parents, so now Gotenks is more likely to get down to business than play games, but then as Goten takes an interest in girls, Gotenks becomes a bit more bashful and eventually with more confidence he becomes flirty and returns to being a bit of a showoff, but more toned down, etc. Or Goten could become a bigger bubbly nature lover thanks to his Dad's and 17's influences and so this could become something that could act as a new trigger for Gotenks'