2020 Toyota Supra 20,000 Mile Update: Should You Buy The MK5 Supra?

[@kobedabest]

33 mpg for a high 11's low 12's quarter miles?! Well done BMW, Toyota couldnt picked a better partner!

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Yeah it's pretty crazy how good this B58 is! Super efficient and powerful!

[@Onestonedbake]

Toyota is literally a better car company than your costume Volkswagen.

[@ricoricciardi3346]

Ive had my 2022 3.0 premium Supra for about 8 months and have put around 11,000 miles on it so far. I drive it pretty much every day.. for fun and for work commute . Zero issues and I absolutely love this car!! Only thing that is a nuisance is the fact that there is no hatch release button on the exterior of the vehicle . Would be such an easy thing to add and is such a nuisance to have to use key fob or button inside door ( then you shut door and the hatch locks again..grrrrrr) . For me thats my only complaint! Fixed wind buffeting right when I bought it.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Oh nice! Yeah I wish there was a trunk button too! The Z4 has it so they could have totally done it on this. Definitely a great car overall!

[@ericlomeli6226]

I’m looking to get a Supra myself and honestly, that’s what’s holding me back. The trunk not having a button to open it. But I’ve heard great things about this car so I think I may pull the trigger

[@ricoricciardi3346]

@@ericlomeli6226 its worth it!

[@pxpajxhn8775]

@@ericlomeli6226no shot you won’t buy a car cuz of 1 button 🤣🤣

[@ericlomeli6226]

@@pxpajxhn8775 very true. I ended up buying one 😂 but honestly. My only complaint is the car not having the trunk button. It’s freaking annoying using the key but what boils me the most is when I don’t have my keys and I decide to use the trunk button on the driver door, if you close your door, it locks again. Like why? Shits annoying asf

[@twoshady518]

just got a 2023 MT Supra... gun to my head I can't think of anything I would replace it with.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

So true! Absolutely one of the best sportscars for the money

[@liljr111296]

just bought a 2024 45th anniversary MKV manual supra. should be getting it in October and can't wait.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Nice! You'll love it!

[@LeonV2-]

I have 40,000 miles on a 2022 and I've had no issues. Just basic maintenance. I was low key worried that it would have problems due to being a BMW, but I was wrong. This car is worth keeping for a while

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Nice to see! Toyota went through the engine to make sure it met their standards. So these should be solid!

[@oscarzapata117]

Waiting on the 24 to be released and putting my order in ASAP! Very excited getting a manual, also love all the videos and information keep it up!

[@rustyscrewdrivr]

24 IS released. get ordering

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Awesome! You’ll love it for sure! You should be able to get on a dealers list for one now!

[@BrunoRatedR]

Can’t wait to have my hands on a 23 Toyota Supra 3.0 premium 🙏🏼

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Keep working towards it!

[@jqueryrocks]

It's really joy to watch your supra vids.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Glad you enjoy them! Great car for sure!

[@Jason-mi5rj]

Please do another update reliably review next summer!

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Possibly! This Supra is closing in on 30k miles and still running strong!

[@robotbro7187]

i have a 2022, have put on 26k miles on it, i have a 2nd car too but i don't drive it unless there's like a blizzard lol,, the supra is just too fun to drive. 95 percent of the time I drive the supra. So far maintenance wise i've replaced the tires twice, and have done 5 oil changes, haven't really had to do anything else.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Nice! Easy car to keep running!

[@marqueseason6360]

Hmmm. If i had to trade in my 2021 3.0, i think id go for a Lexus LC 500. That car looks better and better every time i see it.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Cool car for sure! Definitely a unique style and gotta love the old school V8!

[@alabdel1388]

17k seems relatively soon to change out the tires. Dad must be tracking or seriously pushing it regularly (burnouts..etc) if they need to be changed that soon. Cheers to him if that's the case. Lol

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Lol seems about typical for soft compound summer tires on a RWD car. But he certainly isn’t afraid to get on it!

[@JC-og1jp]

Would be nice to see a 7 years or even 10 year review to really see how reliable the engine is because 2 years is nothing and no car should go wrong at all in 2 years

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Yeah very true. However at this point the 2020 Supra is about 6 years old. This car was originally sold in 2019.

[@mresab1997]

@@BrosFOURRSpeedthat’s crazy… stop lying

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

@@mresab1997 umm, you can do the math, not lying at all..

[@merlinsteele6840]

Nice looking although the humorous part of me figures it’s the epitome of someone trying to make up for something 😂

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

What?

[@kdallers]

Is buying a used Supra 3.0 at 46,900 with a clean title and regular oil maintenance a good idea because I can’t find any at msrp, one deliver in a different state is selling it 5,000 over msrp so it would be 70,000 out the door for a 3.0 premium which in my opinion is way too kuch

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

What kind of mileage? That sounds like a great price! hese are pretty solid cars so a nice one with good maintence should be worry free!

[@kdallers]

22,000 miles and the maintenance is up to date as well too@@BrosFOURRSpeed

[@carguy...]

I'm assuming the auto feels much quicker than the stick by your reaction??? Always feels quicker when the cars shifts for you!!

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

You notice it more from 1st to 2nd. Thats the slowest gear change for the manual. Once your moving they feel about the same. But its definitely fun zipping through gears with the ZF

[@pcolamojoe8840]

I tried fitting into this car but at 6'6" it just wasn't comfortable. I really like the look of it though.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I can see that! At 5ft 11 I feel about as tall as I'd want to be. M2 could be a good alternative? Or M240i

[@joegarcia2113]

I just bought a 22 Supra. I noticed more exhaust air coming out of the driver side pipe vs passenger tailpipe. Is this normal?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

The exhaust flap is on that side. So you're probably noticing in normal mode when the valve is closed all the exhaust comes out the driver side. In sport mode with the valve open it should be equal

[@joegarcia2113]

Thank you! was a little worried I bought a jacked up Sup!@@BrosFOURRSpeed

[@davepaturno4290]

I used the cruise in my 2024 for the first time after completing the break-in mileage (1200 miles) during a 40-mile round trip. It never acted as you mentioned (applying the brake aggressively after the vehicle in front moved over to the adjacent lane). Perhaps that feature has been updated at some point since the 2020 model year.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Hmm interesting. My 2020 did it as well if a car slows down and turns this might hit the brakes. Many other cars I've driven have done it where the forward collision systems activates. Maybe you just haven't been in the exact same circumstance yet

[@davepaturno4290]

@BrosFOURRSpeed My 2014 Mazda 3S GT with tech package never hit the brakes during that type of scenario. Of course, if a car suddenly entered my lane, it would slow down fairly quickly, but not anything like emergency braking. I do like the fact that the Supra remembers my previous speed setting. And the HUD is a definite step-up from the Mazda's and my 2001 Corvette that I sold to get the Mazda.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

@@davepaturno4290 Yeah overall the Supras systems does work pretty good. Maybe just early software was a bit abrupt.

[@Corgiking521]

I might plan I buying one soon. But always curious how much money do you make to justify the payment? I make like $150k but the monthly payments still seem kind of steep.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Depends on your saving habits. I bought a $70k GTR on a $40k salary. I live a simple life and had plenty in savings for a 50% down payment and still had a good emergency fund. Just bought a Lamborghini Gallardo on a sub $100k salary. Nearly paid cash for it. If you can save your money and live on 25% of your monthly income. You can really do anything you want in life. Pack a lunch every day. Only buy cloths off the clearance rack, make dinner at home, only drink water and just don't buy what society tells you to buy. Like face phones, streaming services ect..

[@thomasshields910]

When you were talking about how the car automatically brakes if it senses are car in front switching lanes was that happening only while cruise control is active ?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Yes just on cruise control. My old auto Supra did it too. While it is sensing the car in front on cruise using the radar distance pacing. If the car in front is making a lane change and slowing down. Theres a small delay and the Supra will still think it's there for a split second and hit the brakes

[@GT-RTData9]

Damn that car looks so fckn good, fck!!

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Thanks! He’s kept it super clean!

[@Rs3mocha]

I bought my rs3 brand new in 2020 No regrets went fbo stage 2 e85 Love the car is the perfect daily on 16k miles What cars do you own now?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Awesome! I have the 2023 Supra. Wife has the S3. Our 2024 RS3 should be here in a few months!

[@Rs3mocha]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed ohh nice you're getting one lol they're so tunable you'll love it

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

@@Rs3mochaYeah we’re excited for it!

[@jeongwoosong6046]

If you ever buy a first expensive luxury toy, what would you get between Supra and M2 ?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Well I like my Supra currently. However when I need back seats I'll sell the Supra and get an M2. Both are a blast. Just depends on your needs. kzbin.info/www/bejne/opfVmn-XaL-coLs

[@speeddemonRS3]

Just wish the design of the new M2 wasn't so hard on the eyes, and not nearly as heavy!

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

@@speeddemonRS3 The design grew on me lol. I love how it looks! It yeah I don’t know why it weighs as much as the M4 🤦‍♂️

[@stormthing22]

How does the supra compare to the m2c? If u have driven the m2c that is

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Here are a few video's I've done on that! kzbin.info/www/bejne/fYmrZJZ7nM-ZntU kzbin.info/www/bejne/q5qZkoaGasSSr6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/opfVmn-XaL-coLs I plan on buying an M2 when the Supra becomes to small

[@stormthing22]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed sorry bro by M2C i meant the m2 competition f87. Dont get me wrong the g87 isnt that different but there are still some differences in characteristics

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

@@stormthing22 here’s the previous M2 I filmed. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y6qzmayFlr2Gftksi=tqW41hSIt7VjybnG They are similar. Both handle very well. Manual in the Supra is much better then the M2. But you have a more open feel in the M2. So I’d say it’s a toss up. If you want better practicality to M2C. If you want a bit more sportscar feel with notchy manual and two seats go Supra

[@davepaturno4290]

BMWs in general are still not in the same league as Toyota/Lexus/Mazda as far as reliability throughout all models. They've come a way since just 5 years ago, but don't expect that you can pick any BMW model and get 10 years of stellar reliability out of it.

[@KingDiamondBones]

nobody buys fun cars for reliability reliability is boring but i've seen 150k mile bmw 2017 340i like twice

[@davepaturno4290]

@@KingDiamondBones Check out Consumer Reports. They compile data from thousands of owners to arrive at their reliability rankings. And no, the Miata and GR86 are not boring.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Yeah like I mentioned, since 2020, BMW is number 3 in reliability. Old BMW’s are still junk. But all the new cars are very solid and robust. Especially anything with a B58 motor. They’ve come along way and I’d trust any 2020 BMW or newer

[@davepaturno4290]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed Time will tell. The older BMWs were typically reliable for 4 or 5 years before things started failing.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

@@davepaturno4290 yeah as of now 2020 Supras are about 5 years old and still running strong. So we’ll see

[@johnifer7976]

what are your sources for claiming BMW is #3 ranked most reliable car brand?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

It was a JD Power report. Looking them up for the last 3 years BMW has been in the top. But one of them for maybe a certain segment or something had BMW listed as number 3. But BMW is in the top with many of their cars and the B58 hasn't shown anything to indicate it isnt a robust engine. It's bene proven to be a solid engine and the Supra has been a great platform.

[@matthowell8985]

I don't understand why toyota couldn't put a flat bottom racing steering wheel in a 50k vehicle. That Steering wheel straight-up does not match the vehicle that it sits in

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Yeah that would have been nice! The stock steering wheel is a bit boring. I did a cool carbon one in mine

[@ricastar2931]

How do you top off the oil with no dip stick?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

In the nav screen there is a service page and you can click 'measure oil'. It will show you the level

[@hepoq]

i believe the supra in 2025 is gonna have the s58

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I really doubt that, why do you think that?

[@2Lsupra]

bought a 2023 2.0 first during the end of 2022 wasnt enough power for me so i decided on modifying it with jb4 cold air intake, full bolts on, catless downpipe, fi exhaust, air suspension, carbon fiber here and there, blacked out michelin tires, 50kg on weight reduction,. kinda slammed it , front lip,. side skirts, rear diffuser, for the interior didn't need a wireless carplay plug,wireless charging pad, or jbl 12 upgrade they all came in the 2.0 because it's kinda different in my country i did red gush seats, starlight roof, led lights on dash, for cosmetics and pure looks i did a full carbon spoiler (not like the 1 on this supra)tinted it, roof spoiler, upgraded the awful looking steering wheel to a g80 lookalike steering wheel, under glow its usually off though lmfao, forgot to mention bigger turbo port injection and a trans upgrade rn im sitting at 390whp-400hp at 1450 kilos the full mod list price is crazy it's around 16k ish USD. do you recommend selling my current 2.0 for a 3.0?

[@2Lsupra]

actually its around 18k for mods

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

That's quite a lot of mods! To be honest you could have spent less money on the 3.0 and had more power tho. As long as you enjoy it!

[@2Lsupra]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed well you are right but i am enjoying the 2.0 alot but i want more cylinders so i might buy a S650 mustang GT premium while the 2.0 stays as a daily, in your opinion is the S650 a great car?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

@@2Lsupra That could be cool! We’ve filmed a few new Mustangs. Solid car! Personally I’d go GT with the performance package and manual. Fun muscle car!

[@matthowell8985]

I would have recommended moving to a 3.0 before you dumped 16k into the 2.0, to he honest.

[@SydneeBernier]

Wow

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Fun car!

[@smilinjoe23]

Mine is already at 24k 😭😭

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Nice!!

[@marcussilva8440]

Seriously stop talking about the 21 models lol there’s like 3 cars that burned oil and it’s way overblown. I’ve seen you bring this up multiple times. It’s not a widespread issue. Just get over the fact the 21’s are better lmao.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Just have to point it out. And like I said it's not a big deal. If I didn't say anything, I'd literally get a ton of comments asking why I didn't mention it. However 2022's are better then 2021's since they solved the issue. Also 2020's are the easy ones to tune and make the same power as the updated engine when both are tuned anyways

[@demarcTV]

1st comment 🎉

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Thanks for checking it out!

[@ruthlesskmtowner700]

i agreed with everything till you said it was toyota lexus then bmw for reliability and honda wasnt number 1 or 2

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

You can look it up, Toyota/Lexus are number one and two. BMW is right behind them. I was just stating facts.

[@ruthlesskmtowner700]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed if that’s true where does Honda rank?

[@ruthlesskmtowner700]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed also LOVE THE Supra been my dream car for a long time hoping to purchase it here in the future

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

@@ruthlesskmtowner700 Honda is number 5 www.kbb.com/car-news/consumer-reports-toyota-lexus-make-the-most-reliable-cars-mercedes-the-least/

[@ruthlesskmtowner700]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed ohh ok that’s including the hybrids and all that I’d say 2020 ish and down Honda is definitely higher but the score has dropped based of making hybrids it makes more sense now but still shocking bmw is that much more reliable compared to what it used to be

[@TheDrunkenDudes]

20k in 2 years is not nuchn

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

As I mentioned in the video, this isn't a daily driver and he doesn't use it during the winter months. So the car is stored under the cover for 4 months out of the year. For an extra car that's just for fun, seems like a good amount of miles

[@MrTommylocks]

Automatic

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Yeah you can get auto and manual on the Supra now

[@TheGnarTube]

garbage review. no facts, just random ranting

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

How so? I'm giving an update on 20k miles. What facts could I say? I gave my father in laws opinions on owning this car for 20k miles, my thoughts on long term ownership and facts about what other owners have experienced with these.

[@PaulDouglas-g3s]

​@@BrosFOURRSpeedgood review mate

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

@@PaulDouglas-g3s thanks!

[@chris_mk5supra]

15 000 miles on tire? are you driving like a grandma? i mean i destroy them in 1000 miles MAX with my supra :(

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Jeez, I’ve never gone through tires that quick…even on my GTR or my own Supra. I get tens of thousands of miles. You must really destroy them.

[@chris_mk5supra]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed yeah rear tires dont last long for me ... ok front a little longer :p , but realy, rear are gone very fast :p

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

@@chris_mk5supra that’s crazy! I’m not looking to replace tires every year lol, I can go 5 or more years!

[@LeonV2-]

haha I have gone through like 3 sets already. Thats the one thing about the supra it loves to eat your tires up xD.