Brothers At WAR & The Common Little WOMAN

Welcome to episode 5 of The Vintage Read Show's Book Review Series The Royals By Kitty Kelley!
In this episode, we discuss Chapter Four and learn about the new King and Queen's trip to the USA!
The rift between Edward and Bertie had deepened due to Wallis not receiving her Husband's HRH. Edward said he would never forgive the Queen describing her as "a common little woman".
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[@Boudicca527]

If Princess Margaret really said “Poor Elizabeth nothing of your own, not even your love affair.” She would have been the one to know and it adds another of sadness to the Queen saying “I don’t own the palaces, I don’t own the paintings and now they’ve even taken my name.” How deeply tragic.

[@silva7493]

💔💔💔

[@Missydee-72]

First time I have heard that gem’

[@LKMNOP]

I agree with you that that would is tragic but we don't know that she actually said that. There's no real corroberation from anyone about that. Although I think there's a good chance that's how she actually felt.

[@DimWit000]

Meghan is no more truthful than Harry is kind to horses.

[@janparish7895]

The Absolute Truth

[@thesubparty1]

I have a lot of respect for Phillip. Till he married Elizabeth - or perhaps till he made it to Gordonston - he had a truly tragic life. Born Prince of Greece AND Denmark, but by 18 months old he’s being passed around by relatives all over Europe - no home, no parents, pretty much orphaned. And that went on for years. His “will you walk if I go with you” has a lot more resonance when you know his early life story. You can also see where his passion for youth self improvement & resilience came from. I know he & Elizabeth had some turbulence after her accession when I feel like he didn’t know what to do with himself anymore after having to resign his naval commission. But it feels like they came back together with the creation of Andrew and remained devoted to one another for the rest of their lives. Harry could learn a lot about resilience from reading about his grandfather’s history. He likely feels he knew the man, but does he know what made Phillip, Phillip?

[@purpurina5663]

Harry wouldn't learn resilience precisely because he was coddled, his wrongs were covered, his mother treated him as incapable of more. He's not made of strong stuff.

[@flyonthewall8122]

Harry's history teacher at Eton was shocked at Harry's lack of interest in the history of his own family. I think Harry simply isn't capable of self-reflection.

[@deeshires8721]

Sounds like uncle Edward!

[@jeaneneshields3259]

You never learn what made your parents until you actually “learn” what made your parents. My father was cruel and abusive. He beat me with a leather whip. I was 28 when I was working with his cousin. He told me my Pop was beaten with a log chain. Broke my heart. I realized my Pop was being the best father he knew to be. I was then able to forgive him and we had wonderful years I cherish. You don’t want to know what happened to my grandpa as a child. It was truly horrific. True understanding gives you freedom.

[@DimWit000]

Harry is the type of person that sits on the television and watches the couch.😂

[@user-zs6pc4qx1l]

I love your comments

[@user-zs6pc4qx1l]

I love your comments 😅

[@janparish7895]

Brilliant! 😂😂😂😂

[@cathyriker2505]

THAT’S FUNNY!

[@nana_ginny]

Or “sit on remote & thinks he lost his hearing”. 😅😂

[@ynys_mon6928]

Oooh, that snippet with Queen Mary makes me think she was the making of the late Queen. Taught her a valuable lesson, that I’m sure she passed on to Prince William.

[@beverleightodd5710]

Margaret sounds like a earlier female version of Harry, he always maintained he could do as he liked.

[@jacquibrown4271]

Margaret was extremely loyal to her sister and the Royal family.

[@vericarauza5830]

Margret liked to have fun and break the rules, but she never thrashed her family. She was intensely loyal to her sister the Queen.

[@alma-wi]

No wonder Harry always thought he coul do as he liked after his mother (allegedly) even told him "You can be naughty. Just don’t get caught". She really encouraged the mischievous side in her children (especially Harry) and when it came to disciplining them, she reportedly left the job to her members of staff, i.e. their bodyguards ...

[@paulchristian7693]

Princess Margaret seems like a spoiled,self centered woman, Queen Elizabeth,had her hands full dealing with her sister?

[@PS_testing321...]

We are talking about a man thrust into the position of king, when he never expected it. He had terrible insecurities caused by his father, as well as the stutter. I'm sure George VI probably felt the uniforms were some kind of armor that gave him some security and helped put him forward as a leader. I have always had a lot of sympathy for him. He loved his daughters and did his duty. Loving his daughters was easy. Asking Britain to stand up to the Luftwaffe was not.

[@acommentator4452]

esp while his brother was urging them to continue the bombing of british cities, to break our resolve to hold out. what an utter rat.

[@avissmith8384]

Shauna it was a shame Andrew and Harry were not taught the same lessons❤

[@thevintageread]

Agree!

[@suupkalvers2244]

Is Andrew not innocent until proven guilty? Or does that only go for some people?

[@whatsinaname3561]

All the spare heirs should be taught as the heir is. That way they are also equipped to take the throne if the need arose. Would also solve the problem of jealousy to an extent

[@dawnjohnson5937]

@@whatsinaname3561 And encouraged to develop a career path, dependent or independent of the royal family, so they can experience personal fulfilment.

[@fibanocci314]

@whatsinaname3561 Don't know that it would necessarily solve jealousy to be trained for a job you're not likely to ever have, but perhaps they'd get a better understanding of the duty of the role?

[@Wildflowers516]

Hearing of Margaret’s behavior it does sound lil like Harry’s …. Except Margaret didn’t sell out and trash the RF ! Have a good rest of the weekend 😊

[@momz42]

I viewed almost every documentary on the royals. I watched one of the wedding of Elizabeth & Philip. They said that people gave their ration stamps of flour and sugar to make their cake. I can’t find it now and current ones are not stating this. Several nylon stockings were sent as wedding gifts since those were rationed as well. Funny how little things are being either edited out or just not mentioned any more. Thanks for your videos. 🥹

[@ursulaatherton7852]

Absolutely agree! I'm sure I heard comments about guests when staying with the RF .having to measure the amount of hot water used Meat was supplemented by shooting and fishing on Palace land. Also, it seems to me that the then Princess Elizabeth must have been 15ish when Prince Philip was dating the actress.

[@jacquelinearcher1158]

They sent clothing coupons for the dress.

[@itsmesam1967]

I wonder how much Philips failed dalliance with that actress affected his later pov re 'one dates actresses, one doesnt marry them'? lol

[@thevintageread]

I thought the same thing! 😂💗

[@itsmesam1967]

@@thevintageread lol

[@ajune583]

That was the attitude Joe Kennedy, the Father, had as well!

[@gibbersking6575]

I have one sister, couple of years older than me. As a child, I adored her... wanted to do, look, BE her in every way. Mom made some of our clothes and she would pick the same pattern fabric but in different color schemes to encourage that sisterly relationship. I'll have to ask my sister if it rubbed her the wrong way. I don't think so. Anyway, when Sister and I were packing mom's home after she passed away, we found a couple of those little girl clothes. Yes, the tears flowed and flowed. She was (is?) a treasure in our hearts, forever.

[@mrsbluesky8415]

My mom made clothes for me and my younger sister too and I don’t remember feeling any resentment about that. I just remember I didn’t really like the clothes themselves because they were usually checkered or not very “pretty.” Still miss you mom.

[@gibbersking6575]

@@mrsbluesky8415 💖

[@christinepizzi6197]

Joseph Kennedy was a SOB...smart woman.

[@robinps52]

He truly was, on SO many levels.

[@katemyer1955]

But interesting to note that his first born was KIA during the war. Had Joe Jr lived, who knows, maybe Jack and Bobby would have lived too. Jack was the Spare!

[@msbeaverhausen7226]

Prayers for all connected to the Bondi Junction Westfield tragedy. Absolutely horrific but thank God for that brave police officer for stopping the crime from continuing. She is a true hero. I'm re-reading this book along with you! Kitty has put together such interesting inside information of her own along with past known history. With his start in life, Prince Philip could have been a mean, bitter and entitled man but he chose to embrace life, pursue professional excellence and appreciate when good fortune came his way. What he must have thought about his own grandson!!!

[@cornelia9778]

I love that story of Princess Elizabeth being uppity and Queen Mary’s remedy. The Brits can do that sort of thing better than anybody, the subtle ZAP.

[@annieb980]

My mother talked a lot about her experiences during the war as she got older. She said once “we were hungry”. Not like today you say you’re hungry if you haven’t had a snack recently. They lived in the East End of London, no back gardens for growing veggies. They were properly hungry. By the way: this is one channel where I really enjoy reading the comments. Always so interesting and never abusive.

[@flyonthewall8122]

I love this community! It really is like a real Book Club.

[@jeaneneshields3259]

I love reading the comments also. I believe it is because of the love and respect that we have for each other and for Shauna and her work. She is an amazing woman and creator.

[@samanthawatmough6119]

Harry is now a nobody in 15 years George time could be married and H&M will be even more down the line. We are comparing them to Wallis and Edward , but i could see more of an Andrew situation going on Yikes!

[@suupkalvers2244]

Innocent until proven guilty!

[@bonniehose-mg2gh]

I think so too. Going back, there was always a good heir and a wastrel

[@LKMNOP]

Being a bit of a history buff, I've always seen the Wallis - Edward situation being more like Charles and Camilla then Harry and Megan. Both men are fundamentally weak and like to have a strong domineering woman

[@LKMNOP]

​@@suupkalvers2244I would say his own mother believed he was guilty or she wouldn't have removed all of his positions. If she thought he was innocent she would have fought for him.

[@suupkalvers2244]

@@LKMNOP Ever heard a royal speaking out? Kings and queens these days have no absolut power, they have to do what their governement say. We can got to the police and tell about slander. They can't.

[@JM-ni3on]

I seriously doubt the accuracy of much of this book . It sounds more light the delusions of someone with a serious chip on their shoulder . I simply cannot believe that the late queen told anyone to bow to her , even as a child , and called a man of 40 “boy”.

[@suupkalvers2244]

Years ago I watched a documentary where even Charles had to bow for his mother...

[@JM-ni3on]

@@suupkalvers2244 I’m not disputing the fact that people , especially in the past , bowed or curtsied to members of the royal family , just that the late queen would have have instructed someone to do so if they had not , especially as a child to an adult .

[@imsiimsi12341]

June 1939 visit to USA Jan 1940 Rationing introduced to UK So quote reported by Kelly about food and clothes being excessive because not applying Rationing to themselves (as against the residents of UK ) can't be true Rationing had not even been brought in as War had not yet started when this visit was made

[@rachmunshine9474]

@@JM-ni3onyeah they still do including family members of higher rank the first time they see them that day, out of respect. I doubt anyone is forced in 2024 and I know as far is non-family, the royal website says it is optional. If I thought I would run into one of them, I would learn how to curtsy.

[@rachmunshine9474]

@@JM-ni3on but I totally agree with the part about -even the young - princess Elizabeth saying that to go against everything I’ve ever seen in documentaries or read.

[@grainnelambert881]

We as people never learn from history it seems just at the world we havent really learnt anything..

[@evelynmonrad]

It's 4:30 am here in the US, I am up, amazingly, to catch a Village Read

[@thevintageread]

Wow that’s dedication! Thanks 😊💗

[@katguyot6351]

Same here! I’m in Oregon :)

[@cameliawilks2049]

Same here in ⭐️Texas

[@flyonthewall8122]

I'm just getting to bed at that hour, so I'm watching at 10:30 pm on Saturday. I'm nearly always WAY late for Shauna's uploads.😊

[@tomh3599]

Rationing did not apply to food you grew yourself. So when you own most of Norfolk and huge areas of Scotland it would be pretty easy to eat well 😂.

[@thevintageread]

Great point!

[@dhjdmba5684]

I wonder why this is always overlooked? Sandringham and Balmoral grew enormous amounts of food then and distributed it to soldiers.

[@jillruben8924]

Such an interesting history lesson Joe Kennedy. What an awful person he was.

[@loreensmith4864]

It seems we now learn so was JFK. Loved like Diana in her day. Little did we know then.

[@jasminebean5762]

I would suggest that Joseph Kennedy was more a supporter of Fascism rather than an isolationist. This is the man who said “very frankly” that the United States “would have to come to some form of Fascism here.” Kennedy regarded Churchill as delusional with his talk about fighting to the last man and that the very idea of democracy, of an idea worth fighting for, was ridiculous.

[@Claireanlite]

Where did you get that info? I'm an American and not a fan of the Kennedys. I knew that he had spouted some favorable Fascist ideology. I have read a lot about them. Just curious for some future reading.

[@partlycloudy3519]

Prayers going out to all you Aussies 💔🙏 so heartbreaking for the terror attack at the bondi mall

[@SueIsherwood]

It wasn't a terrorr attack, it was just a single monster already known to police. He was not attached to any group and had no ideologies for anyone. But it is a tragic situation for all those who lost their lives and their families And everyone appreciates others' thoughts and prayers.

[@ralphl7643]

@@SueIsherwood Monsters always seem to be known to police.

[@kathyprime5430]

My sister and I, 8 years apart, had matching dresses. Just a couple. We loved them and we still talk about them now. I confess, my 3 boys when young, were dressed in identcal outfits, different colours. They were each 2 years apart. People loved it and so did they. Well stopped by mid primary of course. Attending my Nieces wedding in there matching whire shirts,,black pants and bow ties at 5, 3 and 1, brought lots of attention.

[@carolanddanmullins9570]

My older sister and I were dressed identically in our good dresses, mostly sewn by our mother who was a good dressmaker. They were beautiful dresses and I loved them. I actually dressed my two daughters the same way in their early years. I'm sure they didn't mind either.

[@joricardochard2824]

PP had a very tragic childhood which seems to have been overlooked. As well, I’m wondering how old Elizabeth was when PP was smitten with the American. Maybe too young for PP to consider in a romantic way. I’m getting the distinct impression that Ms Kelly didn’t much like the York family, or PP. A pen dipped in vitriol, it seems.

[@thevintageread]

She was only 15, I don’t think she knew…

[@sidneybales9062]

@@thevintageread When I heard about Phillip's crush of the American actress I was thinking, "meanwhile Elizabeth was still holding a torch for Phillip." If I remember she met him at 13 and had a crush on him since them. I don't blame her. He was something.

[@krishnavyas313]

​​@@thevintageread oh no, I searched on Google and philip and Cobina started dating when both she and philip were 17 in 1938. And prince philip wasn't some love sick puppy he also dated osla Bennig in 1939. And Cobina and philip were on and off and their relationship was not serious. They dated different people while they were seeing each other. Cobina got married in 1941. And here kitty is saying that Elizabeth and philip met again in 1942 Christmas, and their romance sparked, but according to prince philip's cousin lady Pamela mountbatten and princess Elizabeth's governess, that Christmas was 1943, Queen was just couple of months away from her 18th birthday and philip was 22. Many people close to the Queen and prince philip have said that though Elizabeth felt strong attraction towards Philip in 1939, Their romance and letter exchange didn't start until and after the Christmas of 1943.

[@LynetteMcGrath]

From the way Ms Kelly writes, I'm pretty sure she is not a Royalist.

[@kathrynmast916]

It will start at 6:30 a.m., April 13th which is 12 hours and 8 minutes from now. Don’t you just love time zones? Sip!❤

[@grainnelambert881]

8 minutes left lololol

[@Lotuslander]

These stories remind me of my grandparents' gossip. interesting the Kennedy descendants supporting Megsy and H.

[@l.h.2543]

Only one of them. It is a big family.

[@user-ob4uo9id2p]

Good Night from New Zealand

[@katiehill619]

Hang on -- by the age of 7, Elizabeth's father wasn't yet king - so there's something a bit off with the timeline...isn't there??

[@fibanocci314]

I suspect Ms. Kelley likes throwing in anything salacious or juicy regardless of accuracy.

[@LKMNOP]

I really don't think that Megan is the reason of the break between William and Harry. Harry is now showing how he's been acting all along. He's just out in the open with it. I think he saw Megan as his way to take the world by the storm all on his own without the royal backing. He was wrong of course. I think Harry and Megan realized they could do more damage together than apart. And Harry always resented William and was jealous of him.

[@dhjdmba5684]

Remember Wms comment to one of his friends at the time their households split: “I’ve had my arm around my brother his whole life. No more.” I thought that was very interesting at the time.

[@rosebud-ame]

Shauna you have the most musical and soothing voice and of course your lovely accent. I have a guttural NYC accent that only New Yorkers would love❗️ 😂 💜

[@thevintageread]

I love a NY accent! So smart and quick 😊🤗

[@rosebud-ame]

@@thevintageread 🩷

[@SheilaEnglish2]

Have you read The Governess? It’s a novel based on the life of Crawfie, the Governess to the princesses and her own autobiography. Gives a lot of insight into the young Elizabeth - if true.

[@highmyope-ps2by]

Dickie Mountbatten was not that wealthy in his own right. He married Edwina Ashley, an heiress. She was exceptionally wealthy.

[@barbaraallen435]

Clothes and food didn't go on ration untill the war started.

[@PollyAmorous]

Depends which country you lived in e.g capitalist or not.

[@annecampbell9621]

My Mum dressed me and my younger sister in identical clothes for all formal occasions and family pictures. I feel the queen’s pain.

[@annieskipper5441]

I agree that Kitty Kelly’s tone is snarky. And I really think she treats Prince Phillips situation rather tacky..

[@thevintageread]

It was when Princess Elizabeth was only 15. I guess it’s believable he had a first romance as he was older.

[@anniebok9735]

Sounds like when Prince Philip, one does not marry an actress, he knew what he was talking about!

[@lilianbirt7235]

Quite a chapter with many pieces to add to the Royal Family tapestry. I like that you highlighted King George VI and Queen Elizabeth’s trip to the US in 1939. Under her white designer made wardrobe,Elizabeth and George had an extremely important job to do. As ambassadors for the United Kingdom they were not above espionage either. They had to convince the President and the American people to help them as they faced Adolf Hitler. Interesting that Elizabeth played that role to perfection, hiding the real purpose of the visit under her beautiful hats. Then the other highlight that stands out for me is how Princess Elizabeth had to be taught humility by her grandmother Queen Mary. Lastly, Prince Philip is quite a character. His youth was difficult and it sounds like his adulthood was planned out by his uncle Louis Mountbatten. All very interesting.

[@thevintageread]

It is isn’t it! Thanks for your very interesting comment! 😊💕

[@suupkalvers2244]

I don't want to be pedantic, but the 2nd WW was not only concerning the UK!

[@thevintageread]

Of course however this book was telling the story from that perspective. My husband’s Dad fought in New Guinea, so I am very aware. 💗

[@RelaxedRevitalized]

Good morning from California❤ looking forward to and love your reviews the time here is 5:32 AM. What a great way to start my day. Thank you.

[@juliannek3134]

Hi Shauna, Loving this book. In my humble opinion, MM most likely read everything about the DOW as well as Princess Diana and this was the pretext of how she would act to keep PH for her only.

[@momz42]

I dressed my boys all the time alike when they were little. Just in case one was missing, I could say he is dressed just like him. Bahahahaha.

[@patti9339]

Good morning from Ohio. ☕️❤

[@thevintageread]

Morning!😊💗

[@BumbleBee666-u5t]

Very interesting!

[@thevintageread]

Glad you think so! X

[@adelaideleslie4200]

Jack Wilson was a married to a Russian Princess, so I doubt any member of the Royal Family would have been so rude. He was practically one of them.

[@sheilathompson1026]

Hi Shauna. With regard to rationing, Churchill was also living off the fat of the land and was never without a big fat cigar in his mouth. I believe a lot of rich people didn’t do without really because of the black market. Well that’s according to my mum who lived through it anyway. I’m enjoying this Kitty Kelly review much more than I thought I would . Thank you. PS My Mum couldn’t stand Churchill she called him a war monger

[@thevintageread]

Really! That’s interesting!

[@partlycloudy3519]

Well cigars & tobacco were NOT on the rationing list so maybe thats why he always had one . its not that hard to google these types of things 🤷‍♀️

[@partlycloudy3519]

​@@thevintagereadtobacco & cigars were not rationed items

[@erinobrien8793]

And if you had access to land you could plant Victory gardens, raise some chickens and if lucky some goats or cows.

[@sheilathompson1026]

Yes you could, most working class people did not have land though. Like lots of the men my Dad joined up at the beginning of the war so most men were away. I know where my mum and her neighbours lived there were very often air raids at night so the children would have to be taken out of bed and taken to an air raid shelter even when they were ill with things like chicken pox so childhood illnesses must have spread like crazy. I remember her telling me while we were watching an old war film called Mildred Pierce (and bombs were dropping) that the whistle the bomb made still made her blood run cold even after all those years because you never knew where it would land or if you would have a home to go back to. I wasn’t born until after the war so I don’t remember but my sister remembered everyone queuing for everything until the shop sold out then you went home empty handed. I don’t know what it says about rationing on the internet, I just remember my Mum and sister saying there were shortages of everything for the poorer people who either refused to buy black market goods or had no money for them

[@catherineniles5048]

I absolutely LOVE your different "shows", especially Snarky Snippet........but I'm having a hard time with Kitty Kelley's book......I'm of the opinion that most of it is gossip (except of the obvious historical data)........quoting "conversations" from over 80 years ago just can't be accurate.

[@thevintageread]

You are hearby excused 😊😘😊

[@loots9821]

To be honest a lot of this is making me feel like tou should take ehat kitty kelly says with a large pinch of salt. She obviously got some sources but a lot seems embelished.

[@wendieking4184]

Hopefully I’ll be awake!

[@gingerroot8906]

I may have to re-read Kitty's book. The sordid side of Dickie seems to have roots in Mountbatten family history. I'm enjoying your reading. I only wish the videos were posted more often than once a week. A cute story from "Little Princesses" (my library had the audiobook!) about the girls getting a Girl Guides scout troop started at Windsor. Margaret was almost too young to join but Lilibet told her to "lift your skirt and show her your legs. You see, she's got strong legs and is not at all afraid to get dirty!"

[@thevintageread]

I would love to post the book review more than once a week however I am posting 4/5 videos every week so I don’t have the time to do anymore.

[@fibanocci314]

How do you mean, about Mountbatten family history?

[@EVALLOYD]

They weren't just the King and Queen of England, they were in fact the King & Queen of the United Kingdom and countries of the Commonwealth.

[@Alexaklr]

I'm currently reading "The Queen Mother" by Lady C. If you want to read about artificial insemination during the 20th century, it's the book to read.

[@thevintageread]

Yes I plan to!

[@terryanderson7545]

It really is like history repeating itself! I forgot the book you were covering. The first thought I had when I saw the title was “Oh, Shauna’s talking about William, Hazbeen and Meganuts this morning!!! Even down to the politics!!!

[@laurasalo6160]

King Charles would have made a tremendous historian. Instead, his calling - his birthright - is to make HISTORY. 👑

[@pierrettehebert3044]

Perhaps revisit the bio of Prince Phillip’s mom. It’s quite interesting

[@blandzx2h677]

I’m always bummed at the end of the video. I want more!!! Can’t wait for next week. You re-tell the stories so well…I also agree that prince Phillip probably did not stop corresponding with Queen Elizabeth.

[@pjbax]

Thank you, Shauna. I’m really enjoying this fascinating book review. 😊

[@timmythecat7478]

Thank you. This is very interesting....... Your commentary is just lovely and smooth !!!!👍👋🤗

[@anndarley9229]

One could think Philip went from the frying pan into the fire, Dicki Mountbatten was hardly squeaky-clean. PS I love the look on the Koalas face behind you.😲

[@adelaideleslie4200]

Although there was rationing in Britain, there was a flourishing black market for everything. However, as the Royal Family owned farms, no doubt they could avail of the produce.

[@robb2biago]

FDR and Elenor Roosevelt have gone down as one of the greatest US presidents and First Ladies. You could almost compare him to King George V, a bit. And Joe Kennedy, bootlegger, as Kris Kardashian. Blech.sorry, I wanted to add this. On the White House archive website, there’s a nice picture of the King and Queen, with hot dogs, at Hyde Park, with the President and Mrs Roosevelt. I’m pretty sure, the Queen cut her hot dog. 🌭

[@user-tx6mj7no8e]

A little thing about soft powe: It's power enough to rewrite history. As fun as it is to be a Royals sycophant, we should never forget,; their FIRST priority is to continue to be the Royal family.

[@thevintageread]

If I was a “Royals sycophant” I wouldn’t be reviewing a lot of the books I do. I am a Royal realist who is interested in the family and the institution of the Monarchy. Aren’t we all protective and interested in our survival? Still you got to use your biting phrase. 😂

[@user-tx6mj7no8e]

@@thevintageread i was not attacking you or your content. I love your channel. I apologize if my thoughts came across in a way that were offensive. I did not mean for them to. I think I was more referring to ME as the royals junkie of sorts.

[@2000konnie]

Oh gosh. I said the same thing about having a statue to honor Wallis Simpson for her role is getting King Edward VIII to abdicate. It's scary to think of what a Nazi supporter might have done to change the outcome of the war. - That was a cute story about Lilibet correcting strangers about the proper way to address her..

[@ralphl7643]

Kelly is sloppy with the timeline: Philip's grandmother Mountbatten lived til 1950. The King and Queen went to America in the summer of '39 BEFORE the war started.

[@sassyt1545]

Have you read the book? Kitty Kelly didn’t say the visit to President Roosevelt in Washington D.C. by the King and Queen took place DURING WWII. It was the immediate lead up to the war. The visit took place on 8 June 1939 and GB declared war on Germany on 3 September 1939.

[@ralphl7643]

@@sassyt1545 Listen to what she describes beginning at 3:20. It sure sounds as if Kelly believes the war was in progress. To my knowledge, there was no rationing before the war.

[@joannmitchell1314]

Good morning,Shauna, from Arkansas 🇺🇸🥰

[@thevintageread]

Good morning!

[@paulchristian7693]

You are a good story teller. 👍🏼 👏🏼👏🏼

[@angelatester2471]

Imagine what todays social media would have made made of THAT little lot - had it been around back in the day!. It makes what happens now seem very tame!

[@thevintageread]

It does 😂💕

[@deeshires8721]

Social media has changed everything!

[@kristinesnyder8311]

As we learned from "Spare " h hated history and history teachers. Since he refused to learn from history he is condemned to repeat it

[@jennifer5130]

Another enjoyable read.

[@karenleavitt7241]

I ordered the last hard cover of The Royals on Amazon. I can’t wait to catch up to what you have done. It was actually cheaper than the soft cover! When the Housekeepers Diary goes down to a reasonable price (it was over $80) I will purchase that one too. Love reading and now I have a good book to read. I am also going to get Sarah’s book too!

[@nalayini1504]

I loved that snippet about Queen Mary correcting the young Princess Elizabeth for being upity!! I have read Lady Glenconner's book, Lady in Waiting and she gives insights into Princess Elizabeth and Princesd Margaret as young children and as they grew older it's just fascinating but she never gave us titbits like that but she does describe her as very sensible for her age ❤ And I loved the bit about Prince Phillip being in love with an actress! We never hear much about his personal life prior to being with Princess Elizabeth!

[@PattyfmPhilly]

Thanks, Shauna!😁💙

[@user-bm7en1lh8d]

I would seriously consider reading any of Lady C's books on your channel honey. She has gone full Tonto on a young lady who is reading her Diana book and questioned one of the passages. She had a video that proved an error in the book, and Lady C has taken umbrage and not, in my opinion, shown herself to be the very graceful, classy lady she portrays.

[@WhyUcare]

Yes I saw that unfold, rather unpleasent,all She did was question a particular part of the books video of the event and wonder if other things may have been fully true or amped up

[@user-bm7en1lh8d]

@WhyUcare Lady C was being a bully, she was so rude and obnoxious and obviously can't take constructive criticism. I can see now why none of the big outlets want to platform her. Also, the young lady (not mentioning her for my own reasons) was right, her channel is toxic when you sit and think about it. I've un subscribed, not sure what to believe anymore.

[@BarbaraHardacre]

I take what any one writes about anything now with a pinch of salt, half truths etc

[@jayteedeene5981]

Hearing things through “friends” is hearsay at best or what real people call gossip.

[@WhyUcare]

@user-bm7en1lh8d Yes I'm subbed to the bullied channel find her delightful although I chose not to listen to the review of said situation, as I find the topic and author is not my cup of tea. The younger son is fully complicit in the tarnishing of his Late Mothers image and Dines out on Her life,nobody's perfect but I believe a lot of what's been written about Her is overly amped up to make people doing the amping money, with no regard to the truth / fact of the real story. I wish they would all move on and let her rest in peace.

[@whatsinaname3561]

I suppose the royals grew a lot of their own food.

[@jackiegould1569]

So much i didnt know. Very very interesting!

[@thevintageread]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@jackiegould1569]

@@thevintageread I have always lived in the UK and am 68. I grew up knowing we have a Queen and a Queen mother and then Prince Charles etc.. I vaguely knew about what went before - the abdication etc but up until hearing this book - very little else. I knew them as figureheads/figures not personalities or what really went on behind the scenes!

[@MellyBooHoo]

❤

[@silva7493]

Well yes. That was juicy, indeed !!!

[@cathyriker2505]

Hi Shauna! I ordered Andrew Gold’s book and I also went to his channel and told him of your support for his book. Thank you!

[@thevintageread]

He knows 😊 I told him myself! Thankyou for your support 💕

[@elainebutterworth8051]

Talking of the Duke of Windsor and his clothes, he was once asked why he preferred to wear American tailoring, he replied that English tailors made his trousers too tight under the arms! 😄

[@fabulousnewt770]

Just to say.. you are unendingly joyful. I have a lot of your gossip at bedtime to catch up on... i put it on when i lie in bed and its just wonderful how you can spin a tale. I listened to about 10 of them in a row the other night when my little old lady dog died very suddenly that day and you even forced a couple of chuckles out of me that sad night. You even read my comment out the other night about HG fancying you😊 and i was actually going to add ' Shauna and HG sitting in a tree..... but i thought.... thats a bit too childish.... and then you added it!! 😅😅😅😅. Keep it up you nut job... i simply love you😅😅😅😅

[@flyonthewall8122]

❤️❤️❤️

[@tonyspain2]

RE his clothes, did he have the money to buy such clothes.

[@ShirTuck]

Interesting the bit about Cabina (sp?) as he always spoke despairingly about actresses.

[@blueblack3591]

Philip was 17 when he met Cobina

[@crivensro]

I have read the whole book and I find its tone very catty and sometimes outright nasty. Kitty Kelly always chooses and underlines the nastiest /gossipiest/ most sensational side of the stories she collected. So, I am really not very impressed by the accuracy or seriousness of her research. She says she interviewed hundreds of people for her book. That might be so. But reading the book, I have the impression Kelly focussed on the gossip, rather than trying to go for the maximum of accuracy or objectivity. All in all it left a nasty, dirty feeling in my mouth after reading the whole thing.

[@user-fyv9y79wv]

Shauna can you pls review that book by Scandal Mingers author Andrew Lownie. About Mountbatten, some really eye opening and concerning revelations about him. I think your analysis would be intersting.

[@grainnelambert881]

So that is why prince philip said you step out with actors not marry them. It was with a saddened heart he said it not as a snobby shit. Hmmm.

[@krishnavyas313]

I think this book is BS because, according to this book philip was under guardianship of his Grandmother princess victoria of Hesse and by Rhine (marchioness of milford haven) and after her death, philip's uncle George mountbatten became his guardian but philip's Grandmother died in 1950's after seeing birth of Charles and Anne and George died in 1937. So how could he became guardian of philip after death of philip's Grandmother.

[@lynsmith277]

I think you have confused the death of Philip’s mother, Alice, in the 1950s, with his Grandmother’s in the. 1930’s. However, I do recall many people saying/writing that this author was not reliable about many details and had definitely a personal bias against the Royal Family.

[@krishnavyas313]

@@lynsmith277 nope I am not confusing prince philip's mother Alice died in late 60's and philip's maternal grand mother Victoria mountbatten marchioness of milford haven died in 1950. Philip's maternal grandmother even attended charles's Christianing. There is famous photo of princess Elizabeth sitting on sofa with charles in her arm and Queen Mary and Victoria mountbatten both great grand mother of charles were sitting next princess Elizabeth on sofa.

[@lynsmith277]

@@krishnavyas313 Princess Alice, his mother, was there when Charles was a baby. She would often be seen wearing a sort of nun's outfit in grey, as she had become religious some years previously. She did a lot of good works, lived very simply and helped many people before she lived her last few years at Buckingham Palace. Alice was especially honoured after WW2 by Israel for saving the lives of Jewish people in the War.

[@krishnavyas313]

@@lynsmith277 I know all of that and princess Alice died on 5th of December 1969. And in 1988 she was reburied on mount olive Jerusalem, Near her aunt Grand Duchess Elizabeth of Russia. And princess Alice mother Victoria mountbatten died on 24th of September 1950. 20 days before princess Anne's birth.

[@flyonthewall8122]

Wait. Queen Elizabeth II kept a diary? I guess I should've guessed that, but it just never occurred to me. Will the public ever be privvy to it, I wonder?

[@Cooksongrl]

Well she only wrote a little bit each day & was fully aware of it being released one day. I doubt the Queen of privacy will reveal any more of herself but it will still be quite interesting !

[@maggiedavies5312]

Shawna, much as I love your insights into these books I’m finding Kitty Kelley a bit of a gossip monger, to be taken with a grain of salt.

[@thevintageread]

Absolutely!

[@lynnewilliams6662]

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[@jeannelipham2583]

I am glad I listened a bit because I have always found Ms. Kelley rather tacky. I still do. Love you, I'll listen to your other reviews and the like, but I think I'll sit out this book.

[@margaretmorris672]

Loving the Kitty Kelly book, there are some surprises and some conformations of things previously heard about. Had no idea about Prince Philip having been seriously in love with another young woman before the Princess Elizabeth. Harry does sound as though he is chiseled from the same rock as his great aunt Margaret! Can’t wait for the next episode 😊

[@stephaniecole4609]

I think Ms Kelly's comments made be a bit snarky about tbe food. However as the BRF had various estates to provide food maybe that story is correct. Everyone was keen to get as much food as tbey coukd. However George VI painted lines on the bathtubs to limit the amount of water used so I woukd have thought that he woukd have aimed to worj with ration requirements. Many wealthy people would have either existing garments or other material stored away that coukd be recyled into new garments without breaching coupon limits. Thanks for sharing the book with us.

[@ursulaatherton7852]

Regarding the visit to Washington in 1939 and the Queen's clothes. The comments are plain mischievous! Rationing wasn't introduced until the following year, 1940 It's not very good fact-checking from the author

[@parkwood6334]

Nothing says thank you wife,for saving my life than running off with your mistress.

[@Fayreangel]

Shauna, Hi, I don’t know whether you have heard of Cheere Denise who also has a book review channel. I’m only saying this because she was reviewing the Lady C book on Diana and questioned an anecdote based on filmed evidence to the contrary. She received a deluge of attack, mostly personal from Lady C and has now decided to take down all her reviews of that book. Lady C showed another side to her and I would want you to tread very carefully if you decided to review anything she has written. It seems she bathes in adoration but cannot abide being questioned. I love your reviews and other content (not madly keen on the sort of English/posh accent in snarky content but hey). 😊

[@WhyUcare]

Agree except I love the snarky snippets voice and content.

[@Boudicca527]

@@WhyUcareSame, agree but love snarky snippets.

[@sazzybkk6664]

I think we all saw what she was really like when she was in I'm a Celebrity -

[@Fayreangel]

@@WhyUcare I love the content just not so keen on the voice. I like her normal voice 😊

[@WhyUcare]

@@Fayreangel I love it as it reminds me of my sisters telephone voice.

[@dhjdmba5684]

Haha you could eat like a king even during rations if you owned your own pigs, chickens and cows.

[@cher_cher]

I’m sorry….was totally put off by little Elizabeth’s pretentious behavior, BUT I def blame this on the parents at that age. We’re so used to hearing about Margaret’s snobbish behavior.

[@thevintageread]

Well it was corrected in time, so no harm done.

[@cher_cher]

@@thevintageread Yes, I’m glad she grew out of it as she matured like we often do. You know she would never take that kind of snark from her grandchildren haha. I loved the tidbit about Queen Mary. I have been wanting to read a book on her for a while. It seems there is “Matriarch” & the official biography by James Pope Hennessy. Not going to lie - I want a book with QM gossip 😆😬

[@katrinabrown5235]

The no clothes thing is a bit of a puss in boots scam!!

[@ursulaatherton7852]

I'm not sure about this author's credibility for fact-checking The comments made about the then king and Queen visiting Washington in 1939 and the Queen's lavish clothes and luggage not respecting the rationing going on at home were mischievous, to say the least but more importantly not factual. Rationing wasn't introduced in Britain till 1940!

[@wintercame]

Point taken, though rationing was staged: various food staples in 1940, but petrol in 1939, clothes in June 1941, and soap in February 1942.