Browning 525 vs Beretta Silver Pigeon!

[@pids117]

That subscribe at 4:07 was perfectly timed to just block what you were trying to show.

[@garrettthompson4919]

I’ve got a superposed browning made in 1960 that belonged to my great grandpa and has probably had half a million rounds go through it and is still working and I’m like a laser with it. My great grandpa always said that John Browning built the greatest guns in world. All Browning guns have a well earned reputation of being indestructible and lasting forever.

[@KazeHorse]

Both good gun brands. Both have a following. Both say theirs is better and indestructible.

[@AntoineHaykal]

I also have a browning superposed from my grandpa from 1974, amazing gun

[@scottwilson1258]

Here in the States I chose the Browning Citori CXS w/32" Tubes And Being 6'2" 220lbs it just suits me well, it has Heft and helps Me track the Birds Smoothly. I have watched my partners switch around quite a few times and back to Beretta's Silver Pigeon while I have just kept on shooting my Browning...I don't feel the need to Go Anywhere! Thank You for such Great Videos, I enjoy them Very Much.

[@yveslandry6985]

Thanks for sharing this comparison. I just bought 3 weeks ago the Beretta Silver Pigeon 1 (game). Last summer, I had try the Browning and the Beretta and for me the Beretta SP1 was a better fit for me. I am 5’6’’. Both the length of pull and the way it fitted me was better. Now I just wish that Spring comes fast and snow melts (still -5 celsius, here in Trois-Rivières, Canada) so I can enjoy my new toy.

[@chriskoort5717]

It's not a toy, it's a weapon of war that is used to kill people! People should never own those! PS. Just fcking with you. I want one too.

[@parrisgeorge9708]

Both shotguns are very solid and reliable designs. The things that will tend to have someone pick one over the other will usually be due to fit and balance of the particular gun(s). I'm VERY lucky in that I've been able to shoot several different models from both Beretta and Browning. For me personally I find I can shoot Browning shotguns more consistently well in comparison to Beretta not due to any mechanical advantage but simply due to how the various models of each maker fit and feel to me. I've tried to get along with Beretta 686, 687, 690, 692, and 694. I just didn't gel with those particular guns. I DID get along with a couple 682 Sporting guns though very well that are owned by friends. Browning guns I didn't get along well with were 325, 425, 625, and my 64 B25. Browning guns that work/worked well for me were/are Citori Lightning Sporting Clays low rib, Ultra XS, 525, 725, Lightning field guns in 16, 20, and 28 gauge, Citori CX, Citori CXS. My current target guns are a 31 inch barrel 725 and a 32 inch barrel Winchester 21. I have a friend that has a couple Beretta 682 competition guns that have a huge number of rounds through them. He's a skeet shooter and his older gun is a 4 gauge skeet set that he estimates has digested some 400,000 rounds during the time he's owned it. It's a 2 barrel gun where the second barrel set was turned into a carrier barrel for the sub gauge tubes and match balanced to the 12 gauge barrel. He purchased that one 3rd hand 20+ years ago and it's been rebuilt twice since he's owned it. His other 682 is a Cole custom with pretty wood and engraving as well as a fitted left hand stock. He's had that back 2 times for rebuilding as well as he's put 250,000 rounds through it. He's also owned that gun for 20+ years. Several Trap and Skeet shooters at my local club have Browning's that are also high mileage guns. The common thing that we see with those is that firing pins, and top lever springs are the parts that need to be replaced after they get many rounds through them. There literally is no real serious mechanical advantage of one gun over the other at the end of the day. Both guns are winners and the most important thing is for the shooter to have something that works for them. Thanks for another good video!

[@dankruger2890]

Nicely put, I have a Remington 1100 and a Older Browning and for some reason I shoot the Browning better at trap shooting events. It's that fit and feel

[@ronaldjohnson1474]

"couple of"! Couple is a noun, not an adjective. Since you don't understand basic English, your comments go directly to the dust bin.

[@MrCervuselaphus]

A great video and a simple honest take on two fine makers. Thanks.

[@Dimitrius001]

I’ve had a 686 onyx for 30 plus years. They are a robust design. I only recently had to replace springs for light firing pin strikes, so I took it in and had it serviced and it runs like new again.

[@PhongTranArt999]

Did You send to Factory to do service ?

[@Dimitrius001]

@@PhongTranArt999 I took it to a factory authorised Beretta service center, Bolsa Gunsmithing in Huntington Beach, CA.

[@jeetts59]

Great comparison. I’ve got the 525, my son has the silver pigeon.I like both but the Brown fits me better. Both are fantastic guns

[@davefarrar9274]

6 months ago, I rented both a Browning and a Beretta and hired and instructor for a few hours. I really had my heart set on a 725. However, after shooting both, the Beretta was the clear winner for me. It fit me better. I bought a 686 Sporting that day. I love that gun.

[@swishswish386]

Great vid… 👍👍👍 I feel that was pretty much an impartial / balanced review.. Ultimately it is “horses for courses” I guess when making a purchasing decision..

[@richardtimms8733]

Further to my last comment, last week I tried out a secondhand Miroku MK Game 32” 20 gauge at Ian Coley’s, I shot 125 through it, various cartridges from Just Cartridges own aka Gamebore, Victory and Fiocchi TT’s, it barely ejected any of them, which for a Game gun designed for the peg is awful, when I handed it back at the shop I mentioned it and they said standard for Miroku & Brownings, I said I’ll stick with my DT10EELL 12 bore a while longer then.

[@colinjohnston5465]

I've got Brownings and Mirokus at home. Love them. I wouldn't change them for Beretta any time soon. Nothing wrong with Beretta, at all. I have just found that over the past 25 years the Browning/Miroku fit is works for me, with only a small amount of tinkering to get the fit spot on.

[@nickkitchen7167]

I have recently bought a 525 having shot a silver pigeon for many years- I have to say I don’t shoot any better with either but in fairness I’m still getting to know the 525 !! It does feel much nicer and I feel it fits me better - in time I think I will shoot better with it for sure I would advise people try both if they are looking at either gun - it will be obvious which feels best for the individual both are excellent guns

[@VintageEngineRepairs]

I owned a 686 silver pigeon one for a few years when they first came out. A 28” game gun and a 30” sporter . Both beautiful. I preferred the 30” sporter for the extra weight and slower swing for clays. Both delightful.

[@jameshetu6885]

I was going to mention that. He's using a field Beretta, a Sporting Gun would feel more like the Browning with the weight and heavier swing.

[@VintageEngineRepairs]

@@jameshetu6885 the stock of a browning always seems a bit higher and beefier while the beretta is slimmer, lower and shaped a bit more delicately. The same applies to the action, I have never liked the square, bulky tall action of the browning. The beretta have always been slimmer, lower and more fluid if that makes sense?

[@perrypappous7617]

David, very good and balanced review. For me, the Beretta guns at that level tend to have very plain wood. Browning guns tend to have better wood. I shot 35,000 rounds out of a Browning Sporting Clays gun in the 1990s before the action got loose. I’ve also shot Berettas a lot and they also hold up. The difference for me until the Browning 725 series is the trigger. Browning has a trigger with more take up. Berettas have lovely triggers. Perry Pappous, Southern California, USA.

[@josephbucci3749]

Yeah the wood is a little plain, but the offset is you don’t care when it gets dinged.

[@christopherwigmore2107]

When I was younger ( a long time ago ) you were either a mini fan ,or an ford escort man , with Beretta and Browning. ( Miroku ) it is the same . Me , I am an escort and Browning man ! Little thing but on a beretta it take a bit of effort to get the bottom cartridge in .

[@gerit1000]

Had the choice between both and i bought the browning. I am very happy with it. Great gun!

[@basshnter1997]

Both are great and will last a lifetime. Get the one that fits and works for you.

[@billythekid2281]

I have the 525 and my mate has the Beretta. Both very nice guns.

[@devinheidt3168]

In colder climates the lower barrel on browning will often fail to fire do to the inertia system failing . Huge problem that is more common then one would think

[@markedwards6145]

A sporter vs a sporter would be a more accurate comparison, especially regarding the comb heights. The Beretta 68X action is also very strong. I have a high-use 682 from the early 1990’s that is still going strong.

[@jacobseitz6224]

I bought my first over under shotgun this year. It’s a browning citori gran lightning in 16 ga. I bought it for upland hunting in the US. I have really enjoyed it so far. I haven’t had any experience with a beretta yet so I cannot really give a comparison but i do really like the browning. Thanks for the great video.

[@joesebia6138]

I have both. 16 ga 525 and 20/28 ga 686. Both excellent guns. I like the browning as I seem to hit more with it, which may be because of the bigger payload. I like the 686 as it is a bit lighter to carry in the field, more elegant. The 525 more robust. Differences may be just due to gauge. A bit unfair as a true comparison would be to shoot similar gauges. I can't choose which I like better. Thus I have both.

[@kelvynbettridge]

After owning both of these great guns can I suggest that the difference in CAST is the one thing that will favour one gun over the other for you. They are both great guns. Enjoy

[@keithhaynes8079]

Thank you again David.

[@BumblebumBear]

Owned both…would choose the Browning as it fitted me better (I’m 6’2) but prob preferred the vibe and finish of the Beretta which IMO is the more beautiful and quality gun. I’ve regretted that 686 don’t really work for me, so the better fitting factor has made my choice for me. And that’s Browning. In truth, you can’t go wrong with either.

[@RetrieverTrainingAlone]

Excellent! I shoot Citoris that I bought used 38 years ago. Still my go to shotguns today.

[@DronesAhead]

I bought a 525 today and I liked it

[@CINsyg]

If you had the SP1 Sporter(I have one) to compare, I think it is heavier, more same as 525 and maybe higher in the stock then the game version. I have shot both and don't feel any difference in recoil, nor have my open action gone back, without I close it up. For me the choice is down to feel and fit, both are great. Got my Beretta on sale for 1200 pounds and have no issues, but do also clean it, inc ejectors that are easy to clean

[@pw601]

Had both of these, initially a 525 then a Silver Pigeon. I thought I preferred the lower action and centre of mass of the Beretta. After a few years I went back to the 525, my shooting improved mainly due to a better meld with my head shoulder sight picture arrangement. My head had to be canted over a fair bit to meld with the comb on the SP. What I think put me off the 525 initially was that the centre of mass was higher than I was used to from rifles.

[@kerm9807]

I bet both ways and bought one of each My boy has the Browning B525 game 12b and I have a Beretta silver pigeon 12b game Both 28inch Barrels Both quality guns

[@jayh9144]

Please review the Benelli 828U.

[@anthonyeyles7223]

Both fantastic guns. Personally I own a beretta 693 as it fitted me better but both were in the running. As mentioned many times try before you buy and forget about the brand and look at what fits you and is in your price range. Browning tend to have more hand made parts and are dearer to repair but both actions are tried and tested. Gun brand snobbery aside we would be happy with either in or cabinets

[@dragonshadow3707]

I k ow this is an old video but new to your channel and have been loving them so far I will catch up on your videos so thanks.

[@stephenperry5927]

Very nice video and review! You done a great job.

[@donavonrobbins1908]

Ok, First. I love this honest, unbiased comparison. I am taking this info very seriously. It's counter intuitive, but being blessed living in a region with good grouse and woodcock hunting ( although avian influenza may be creating it's way here into northern Michigan unavoidably) there are few resources to try these guns out without tapping into my gun purchase budget. I have gone through all these comments carefully. Unfortunately those who could offer assistance aren't likely to see this post under KZbin's ancient format. I have been watching this and another helpful channel for over a year trying to decide on my first serious double. Only previous double was an Ithaca Field 12. My hunting experience i( 20 years)s Remington wingmaster and 1187 light. My skeet shooting is limited to only playing around a couple times. My guns will be used for hunting first and foremost. I gather at this point I would be very happy with both, but won't feel good until I've exhausted my resources and would appreciate any bodies input for dragging one of these through the bush. Thanks guys. Don Off the rack, I can get immediately on the head with both a Citori Hunter I 20 and a Silver Pigeon 20. Even tried a Saur 20 but I couldn't get down on the bead.

[@donavonrobbins1908]

Oh, and I miss the news feeds and promotions you guys were doing before;)

[@jeffreylocke8808]

I like the Browning full width steel hinge pin and steel insert in the face plate of my aluminum framed Feather 725 model.

[@Turbo-wj9qc]

I only shoot 20/28/410 so I like the heft of the browning sporting guns, the Berettas are very light and thin in the subs.

[@stephenland9361]

They're both very good guns. If I had to choose between them, I'd go to a shooting school range and try them both. One would likely feel better, fit better and shoot better... for me.

[@Scooter-dm3qo]

Last summer I started shooting Skeet in 4 gun Registered Events. For you Brit's these are small tournaments that feature shooting 100 targets in 4 calibers, the 410, 28 Gauge, 20 Gauge, and 12 Gauge. When I started out doing this I chose to shoot my 1992 vintage Browning Sporting Clays Lightning (425) because it is a 100% perfect fit. However I also have a Beretta 686 Sporting with an adjustable comb stock that was sort of close buy not quite right in terms of fit. Tried tubes for the first event and it quickly became quite clear that I no longer had the upper body strength to shoot 300 rounds of Skeet with a 9.5 lbs shotgun. Age has made it's presence noticeable. So I purchased a 687 Silver Pigeon III Sporting Combo in 410/28 and it has proven to be the smartest gun purchase I have ever made. Because that lighter gun is an absolute Joy to shoot. In addition it seems that Beretta has produced the small bore SP III's with a higher comb, because the fit is a 100% perfect match to my treasured Browning. A friend on the squad I shoot with alos has a Silver pigeon III Combo but it's a Field instead of a Sporting. Out of curiosity I compared the fit between the two and found that his SP III also came with a Browning Fit. The SP III is also the gun that taught me how to properly adjust the comb on my 12 gauge 686 and my 20 gauge 686. What I found was I didn't need to kick the comb sideways or change the angle, all I had to do was raise 1/8 inch from baseline. Now I'm not a great shot at present but I'm into the 20's this year and I've shot a 24 in competition with all 4 calibers, something one youngster told me would never happen if I didn't start shooting tubes. End result is that I have a Browning vs Beretta comparison going on leading up to every shoot in trying to decide what to shoot in the 12 gauge. It's now so close that I'm down to flipping a coin. I also know the exact difference in comb height between a Browning 425 Sporting and a Beretta 686 Sporting. It is a fraction of an inch and that fraction is 1/8. Note, I find it a bit amusing that David refers to a Fraction in a Nation who has gone whole hog Metric. Anyhow to translate that Fraction into a measurement that David will understand that Fraction is roughly equal to 3mm.

[@josephbucci3749]

I have a Cynergy citori and sp sporter. The Cynergy is much closer to the sp than a citori. The actions are more similar. All three, the citori Cynergy and sp will outlive you and whomever you leave them to. They all shoot great. I like the way the SP points the best

[@nextfriiday]

I had both these o/u’s at one time. I kept the 525 field and still shoot it regularly on all types of birds. There was something about the 686’s “polished” nature I just didn’t care for as a field gun for game I was going after. Its receiver was extremely bright and the glossy stock just didn’t do well in blinds and along dove fields. Too flashy. The mechanics of it were fine. I’m sure it’d be great for targets.

[@hotshot2177]

I’ve had a few of each Silver pig, 682 supersport, miroku mk70, and 38 and a 525 I’m currently on my 2nd mk70 but I wish I’d never sold the 38 Browning/Miroku just work better for me, I wouldn’t like to say which is better made but I prefer the beefier dimensions of the miroku type.

[@hotshot2177]

Oh just remembered I had a 325 too but I didn’t like that as the chambers used to rust !

[@Yorkshirepigeonshooting]

I had a silver pigeon 1 last year and I got on very well with it. This year I upgraded the silver pigeon for a Browning 725 Pro sport, as I was doing more clay shooting. I really like the Browning I don't know why but I just got on better with the Browning, just a few weeks ago I upgraded my Beretta a300 Outlander semi-automatic for a browning 525 s which are used predominantly for crop protection game shooting. As others have said both the 525 and the silver pigeon are a very close match, having shot both guns I felt that the 525 was just a little bit Better fit and immediately felt more comfortable and confident shooting it. The fact that I like my 725 Pro sport, is what convinced me to go for the 525. Like David says you are better going and trying both guns and seeing how they feel to you.

[@madscape2101]

I have a had a 30" Browning Grand Prix sporter ( basically a 525 with selective ejectors ) and recently purchased a Beretta 694 32" sporter with Adj comb . Both are fantastic shotguns. I was fortunate with the Grand Prix as browning put a nice cast on the stock on mine as opposed to how straight stocked Browning's recent offerings are. To me the browning handles better for low gun situations or very fast swing through shots. I prefer the Beretta for planed out shouldered or close to shouldered presentations where I am shooting sustained lead with a plan. Hard to describe But I don't find one better than the other. I also have a 32" Guerini Magnus sporter and I feel that even lends more to the instinct/low gun applications.. even more so than the browning. One nice thing with the Beretta Silver pigeon and others is you get a decent case with it. Shame Browning charges 3 grand plus for there shotguns and delivers it to you in a cardboard box. YMMV

[@14goldmedals]

I totally agree about Browning not supplying any kind of hard case. In Canada a 725 Sporting, 30" ported, adjustable comb cost me $4100 tax included. Then I had to buy a Browning case for another $250 because they aren't exactly giving those away.

[@MegaFrank1960]

I have both, and prefer my Ultra XS. The 686 is just too whippy, especially on crossing simo pairs, where the added heft of the 525 makes for a smoother and more deliberate transition to the second bird.

[@Mrmaddog]

I went for the Beretta over the Browning Just because I thought the Browning was a little bit too chunky, and it felt a bit heavier, ( Although I don't really think it actually is ). The Beretta just feels right for me, and I am really happy with the gun...No regrets what so ever...

[@williamfeldner9356]

I absolutely love my Browning 525s, they just fit me beautifully…….. pull - dead bird…

[@kenstrain4366]

Why choose? I have a Browning Citori Trap and just bought a Beretta 687 III field. If you cant choose, just buy them both!

[@richardtimms8733]

Gunsmiths tell me Beretta are easier to work on and break down less, that’s enough for me.

[@colt10mmsecurity68]

True! I’m a gunsmith

[@dave_724]

beretta do recoil more having shot both next to each other until there red hot I’ve also had more issues with the beretta inertia block not changing over I personally prefer they way beretta look and are designed but i shoot much better with a browning 525 then a silver pigeon one sporter

[@Blondejam]

On my first purchase I tried a 686 and a 725. I never considered myself of having big hands but the 686 was just too small for myself in the pistol grip whereas the 725 was more comfortable for me. plus it was a bit higher in the comb which suits me better as well. I hit as many clays with both guns but the Browning won the day. The only thing with my 725 I found after a while, I wish it had a trap like forend like my MK38 trap!!! 686 is still a nice gun but not for me...

[@mchughcb]

This is great but what about the yildiz pro sporter?

[@TSCTheshootingchannel]

This new Yildiz Pro is one of the best new guns on the market and I really think this is a gun that is going to take off big time. Thanks TSC Team.

[@mchughcb]

@@TSCTheshootingchannel I'm going to try and get my hands on one. If it's half a perazzi at a quarter of the price should be good.

[@allwaysfarm3087]

I have been told that the Browning has a straight cast…this is important as I am looking for a gun for both my kids - one is left handed and the other right handed. I will add an adjustable comb to the stock to allow for adjusting it for the left and right hands shooters. I don’t have money for two different guns. In any case, not sure if the kids will carry on with the sport…so one gun is all I will be buying…

[@robertdodd9623]

Are you saying that the Top lever of the Beretta has to be manually pushed after closing the chamber ?

[@aviobrain]

I bought a Beretta. Pointed much more nicely. The Browning was more like an old muscle car..not necessarily a bad thing

[@petermitchell9551]

had both shoot mk 60 at the moment both great guns

[@CarlosArruda77]

I'd love to own one of these mainly for clay shooting. Just a shame that here in the UK a firearms licence is an absolute nightmare and very hard to get one or so I was told. Will have to do with the shotguns they have at the club for the time being. But my personal favorite is the Beretta. It just feels better.

[@scottwilson1258]

We are fighting hard for our “God Given Right” to own and shoot Anything, Anytime in the States! Looking northward to Canada just lost their rights to own handguns! Wake Up!

[@jimbob4447]

A SGC is not difficult to acquire in the UK just takes a long time thanks to a backlog caused by Covid. I applied just over 1 year ago and only last week had the Police contact me to begin the last stage of my application.

[@biagiocozza8875]

Great video. I have one of each, they are both fantastic guns, I like the Beretta just a little more than the Browning. But I do believe that the Beretta recoils ever so slightly more than the Browning. They both break clays if you do your part.

[@LakesMTB1964]

I’ve always had Beretta until I bought a B525SL and I’m shooting much better with it

[@allanplant5469]

Got both guns both excellent.

[@kerm9807]

Looking at a new 28b yildiz on Friday Whats you guys thoughts on a 28b and yildiz? Its a present for my 10 year Daughter

[@TSCTheshootingchannel]

Hi Thanks for your comment before you buy this please give David a call on 01844 238 308 as he will help you and chat though some thoughts for you to make you mind up Thanks TSC Team.

[@kerm9807]

@@TSCTheshootingchannel cheers Team

[@josephbucci3749]

My silver pigeon sporter does not have an adjustable trigger.

[@davidscarpelli9854]

I believe in the USA 525 are known as citori and I own a few citori’s sporting over under’s and a 626 sporting. I mostly shoot the 626 and I’m on the sporting clays course at least once a week when weather is fair. I find the Browning’s much more pleasing to look at. as far as finish goes and I don’t want to soil them and this is the reason why I use the 626 mostly. I have to agree both are great and if I could only have one it would be the 626 because I wouldn’t want to ruin the finish on the citori

[@Turbo-wj9qc]

626?

[@davidscarpelli9854]

686 sporting 32 inch barrels

[@martindavey8742]

As a beginner, with small hands would the berretta fit me better?

[@TSCTheshootingchannel]

Potentially, but definitely worth trying them both!

[@buckshotaaa]

I've had both a 525 and a 686, both 30"ers . Team Browning or Team Beretta?? I found the 686 to be a little more lively and preferred it on a skeet layout with the 525 getting the nod for trap targets. The 686 was easier to clean any residue from the inside of the action. On a more personal level, i thing the Browning tramline rib (with the centre bead) is the best i have ever had on a gun. Both 1st class and will last a life time.

[@tonymorgan3526]

Great video, OMG I miss clay pigeon shooting, does anyone that lives in the gloster area go shooting on a Sunday as I would love to go 🔫🤔🤔🤔

[@jimyl77]

this is the video i was waiting for!

[@ihorkrusynskyi6622]

both are super it all depends on the price who can afford it

[@hunterfdm2944]

Muy buena comparación, las son con cañones de 71 o 76 cm.. saludos desde Chile

[@juancarlosbelletti6335]

No se lo que dice pero me parece a mi que va en gustos este tipo de Escopeta u otro pero les aseguro ;que las dos son extraordinarias tanto una como la otra eso es el gusto de cada unooo

[@Yorkshirepigeonshooting]

I had a Silver pigeon 1 last year and really got on vwe

[@14goldmedals]

At 9:05 you've done something I've never witnessed on a clays range. First shot was in front of the clay so much the tail of the shot string stopped it. Then it fell straight down a few feet and you second barrelled it! Nice shot Older Citoris always felt too tall in the action for me but the Berettas usually have the wrong cast for my left handed shooting. Beretta and their damn cast... but I'm using a Browning 725 Sporting with ported 30" barrels and the adjustable comb now. The 725 receiver is just right in how they've streamlined it. What's normal etiquette in England regarding ported barrels in your different types of clay target shooting? New subscriber from Canada 🇨🇦

[@hughmungus1509]

It’s like a browning fan club

[@julianwilson9730]

Moved from a beretta to a B525 for no other reason than the 525 is a better fit for me for English sporting and consequently I’m hitting more. The difference between the two is down to the fit and nothing else.

[@anthonyrussomanno1540]

For me the Browning is more solid shoots better and looks better but that being said both are awesome guns

[@cgjaz414]

David, wonderful video comparison. Is 28” too short for barrels nowadays? I am in need of a lighter Sporter/Skeet shotgun. Have been mostly focused on a 30” barrelled firearm. I look forward to your insight.

[@TSCTheshootingchannel]

Hello, there’s a time and a place for 28” barrels, we did a video comparing all barrel lengths 28”-32” give it a watch.

[@jakeypoo106]

Would you do a video about a light weight over/under? I have a paralyzed right arm and shoot one handed. I currently shoot a Beretta 686 SP1 28 inch barrels, and it get pretty heavy.

[@juancarlosbelletti6335]

Me parece a mi que este señor se encuentra mejor tirando con browning que con beretta como dije antes !!es cuestión de gustos !!

[@dhruvshah7545]

Can you tell us about the two in performance in issf sports.

[@parrisgeorge9708]

If I remember correctly the #1 is Perazzi, #2 is Beretta, then #3 is just about everyone else.

[@dhruvshah7545]

I have an old miroku game gun o/u fixed chokes twin triggers. Works very well on sporting clays.

[@grahampawson1502]

I have two 525 ‘s a sporter one and a Citori , absolutely superb guns for game and clays , can’t compare my Beretta as it’s a 486 Parallelo side by side , also a brilliant gun for both 🧐

[@hypegamergig1785]

To my personal opinion, Browning is build as a tank, reliable as a tank and therefore looks like a tank. Sold my 525 and bought 682 Gold E. Fits better and dusts clays better (for me of course).

[@jameshogg601]

Nothing wrong with the reliability of Beretta either we have 8 Beretta's that have shot 100,000 cartridges a year for the last 12 years in the north UK (shoot in rain constantly). We are having to replace a couple this year as they are now too loose in the action and can no longer be tightened but are great bits of kit.

[@parrisgeorge9708]

@@jameshogg601 Something that you may want to look into is that some of the really god Beretta gunsmiths can rebuild the 680 series guns beyond the normal oversize parts stock. What Cole Gun does here in the states is that once the lockup gets to where the largest size locking bolt doesn't provide enough purchase in the monoblock they machine the monoblock for bushings and new recesses back to the smallest size locking bolt. They also Tig weld the hook where the forend latches to bring those surfaces back into spec. Just an option that you may not have been aware of.

[@jameshogg601]

@@parrisgeorge9708 thanks for the comment sir definitely something I'll look into. Thanks again.

[@jimgregory6629]

i have to say that the beretta top lever coming back over isn`t just one of those things,if you take the stock off the action you will see that there is a problem with the pawl/pivot that should keep the top lever in the open position,i have seen it siezed up even when new

[@14goldmedals]

That's very interesting. If Beretta left the pawl you speak of out to save a penny, could it be the reason these newer ones spring back?

[@diggerproud1]

B’wowning or B’wetta?

[@rogerdraycott3486]

Not sure the trigger on the 525 game is adjustable??

[@borisfargo1290]

It’s not

[@rogerdraycott3486]

@@borisfargo1290 thanks

[@paulbryan1013]

The 525 trap one has an adj trigger fine gun bomb proof

[@rogerdraycott3486]

OK, thanks

[@stephenbattaglia5193]

Neither is the trigger on a Silver Pigeon Sporter, but if he was doing a like for like comparison he would have noticed that!

[@kevincrew4770]

Having both I tend to take the Beretta more 🤷‍♂️

[@Jolly56Roger]

Browning all the time no brainer to me .

[@mikeproctor3664]

I would choose the Beretta, one thing it has going for it is for around $1200 USD you can add a set of 20 gauge or a set of 28 gauge barrels. And re-sale value is higher.

[@Jolly56Roger]

Browning are far more easier to work on i.e. firing pins mains just a small slotted screw hold the ejectors in place easy to clean simples really ,

[@johndavis3399]

Hi all I think no doubt they are both excellent bench mark guns however it's the fit that interests me in how people might choose one over the other. I think the Beretta may be slightly thicker in the butt and lower in the comb with the Browning B525's being higher in the comb by comparison. I would love to hear comment on how these different characteristics favour the shooters body type, especially from coaches! Why do Beretta or 'Italian guns' tend to go for a lower comb- what's the thinking behind it? Is it just a traditional fashion thing or is it relevant to our build and shape- I would love David to do a film on why top manufacturers have different ideas about fit and why in general Mr Boring 5' 11 and 15 stone 'me' and Mr 5'8 and 18 st and Miss 5'8 and 11 st should get good results from 'a type of gun' I would like to see it 👍

[@johnyghalb8787]

I have the 525 i feel better with it then the Beretta than i had before

[@danjamison3727]

Why do you compare a game gun with a sporter is the stock not lower on a game gun Have just changed from a silver pigeon to a 525 both 30" sporters Like both However I have found Browning parts much more expensive ie Recoil pad £15 Beretta £35 Browning and supply poor from browning

[@kylearmstrong7025]

I mean, what's your favorite Thanksgiving pie...apple or pumpkin?! 😋

[@14goldmedals]

Totally depends on whether there's vanilla ice cream in the freezer or whipped cream in the fridge. If both, then I'll eat both lol.

[@marklobbett455]

Ive had both be it a 687, &now a Miroku mk60-(525) but yes as we know the Browning is alot lot more gun for your money & far better engineered!😊 i do like the simplicity of the beretta & maybe some people like the look of the 680 series berettas??yeah its a personal choice?

[@jeffreylocke8808]

I own a Browning Feather 12 gauge 725 with 26 inch barrels. Love it and weighs 6 pounds and 7 ounces. I use Tru-Lock blackened stainless steel extended chokes in improved cylinder and improved modified. My all around shotgun for hunting and some clay busting.

[@aviobrain]

The 686 has way more finess! Use the Browning as a Club.

[@АлексейАлексеевич-х7б]

Browning👍

[@mikewillower79]

Browning all the way if I were making meatballs I'd trust the Italians

[@johngnipper8768]

Well hope you like sushi ,cause you eating some Japanese.

[@Bunduki]

How many Browning's are on the winners podium at World Championships & the Olympic . Not many !

[@nikolasnikolaou5561]

Its like girlfriend... If you see only the beauty buy the beretta... If you want to shoot well buy the browning... Berettas 686 silver pigeon point of impact of barrels are shit the under barrel shots 30-70 in 40 yards how to you want to shoot well??

[@JeffersonHumber]

Are the Brownings made in Japan?

[@withnail8845]

Yes, the 525 is.

[@Dimitrius001]

@@withnail8845 Yes, made by Miroku in Japan. Browning and Miroku have been working together since at least the ‘70’s.

[@Jolly56Roger]

They are made in Kochi Japan Browning & Miroku

[@14goldmedals]

Yes and many Winchesters are produced by Miroku. All of the firearms they make have excellent fit and finish especially the Winchester rifle reproductions. Simply pieces of art. Their strong culture wanting perfection in everything comes through in these products. Being a shooter and collector since the 1980's has educated me as to what quality or lack thereof is. Sometimes I paid to learn, but if got to pay to learn you stay learned.