Brubaker's response to Hythem Sidky's 2019 review of "Corrections in Early Qurʾān Manuscripts"

[@tzadik36]

The more the bucket is stirred, the more it will stink.

[@exposingcp6943]

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[@tzadik36]

@@exposingcp6943 Born & reared in Pakistan; Urdu was a requied language is school. السلام علیکم؟

[@exposingcp6943]

@@tzadik36 Wa'alaikumsalam brother

[@IslamCritiqued]

Imagine IQSA in a couple more years...

[@exposingcp6943]

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[@MohamedIlNasrani]

They won't be teaching this stuff, that's for sure.

[@exposingcp6943]

#1: Bible is a Book of Books. Out of MANY, only "4" Gospels were selected by Church to be a part of the Bible in the NT. #2: None of the Gospels were written by the direct eye-witness #3: The 1st written Gospel was by what the Church thinks as Mark because they found the name Mark on the manuscript BUT this manuscript is NOT from the 1st Century. The EARLIEST manuscript is several later. The original is either lost/destroyed. #4: The Gospel written by "beloved of Jesus", whom the Church thinks as "John" mentioned things that were NOT mentioned by other Gospels. He/They introduced new concepts. #5: If the HS, was guiding the scribes, then why blunders in Bible. #6: What did RSV Bible mention in the Preface? Do you know? Was the scholarship behind the RSV compilation bunch of ignorant folks? Why do they declare that the KJV has SERIOUS ERRORS as the manuscripts upon which KJV was based had verses ADDED TO IT. This was proven when manuscripts OLDER than these manuscripts were found . #7: What about the ALREADY CONFIRMED corruption in Bible about for example: 1 John 5:7-8 [Johannes Comma], Story of adulteress, Handling snakes and drinking poison, etc. #8: Laymen Christians claim "WE HAVE ENTIRE NT MANUSCRIPTS” numbering in 6000. Unfortunately none of two manuscripts are similar. The copies have several issues in the writing (Not including the scribal human errors) #9: Michael Servetus was a sixteenth century Spanish theologian whose interpretations of the Bible brought him into conflict with the Church. In 1531 CE, Servetus published the book “Errors of the Trinity”, in which he said those who believed in the Trinity were really Tritheists (believers in three gods). He was condemned as a heretic and burnt alive atop a pyre of his own books #10: Christians should STOP the violation of the 1st commandment and accept Islaam since we are living in the times of Prophet Muhammad and there will no prophet to come till the Day of Judgment. These are few points why Book of Books is corrupted. I am not even including scientific error. The above few points are sufficient for a wise person to ponder.

[@henkh63]

@@exposingcp6943 Okay, so much for the Bible. How about some refultation of the video you are (not) responding to?

[@exposingcp6943]

@@henkh63 INSHALLAH. GOD WILLING. It requires a LOT of study to first understand before I respond. I am not a scholar. I need to study and this will be a continuous process till death GOD WILLING. For immediate answers, Shabbir Ally had already responded to scribal error and grammar related subject. Also Brother Mansour of Speaker corner U.K had also responded with proofs that Dr Brubaker is lacking Arabic grammar fundamental rulings.

[@aliahmadi137]

You and your work are a threat. The truth is that you are now considered an enemy by the Muslim community. You will be attacked and so will your work by the Muslim community and their allies.The majority of the information concerning the Quran and its historical author come to us from the tradition of Islam. I think your work on the Quran is a meaningful work that is strongly need by both the scholarly community and the general community because there is so little accurate information concerning the Quran or its historical author. People like me who wish to make sense of the Quran and its author from a historical point of view greatly benefit from your work. On the other had people who wish to argue that traditional view of Islam is the most accurate in order to convince non-believers will interpret your work as a threat or anti-Islamic. I'm sure you know that Islam is not use to being criticized or being criticized on a scholarly (secular) view. Overall I think what you are doing is of much importance and I am very grateful.

[@pinpoint3770]

DB is helping to save muslims from islam

[@NsShadid]

You are doing an amazing work for sake of academia. I salute your professional and honest disposition. And I hope you keep that paramount. As an arabic speaker and a muslim, I find this work fascinating. While I do understand why some fellow muslims find this sensitive, I think it's important to hear what you find and what you have to say. You said it sir, we are all humans and we all do mistakes and so did the early scribes.

[@variantquran4505]

Thank you. Best wishes, DB

[@sylvanabecker5533]

n - thank you for your opinion and honesty. As a human and Christian it is much appreciated!

[@victorrodrigues5448]

The quranic narrative has holes in it...

[@letmetalk2240]

@A Proud Believer They are the lost sheep.

[@victorrodrigues5448]

@A Proud Believer, believe it or not, it was Yasir Qhadi who said that 'The standard narrative has holes in it.' They? Who are 'they', gullible believer (in buraqs and such)?

[@exposingcp6943]

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[@letmetalk2240]

@@victorrodrigues5448 Yasir Qhadi is not the ONLY MUSLIM SCHOLAR. Xtians believed Elijah flew into heaven riding chariot of fire! Gullible believers!

[@victorrodrigues5448]

@@letmetalk2240, 'As they [Elijah and Elisha] were walking along and talking together, suddenly a chariot of fire and horses of fire appeared and separated the two of them, *and Elijah went up to heaven in a whirlwind* .' ~ 2 Kings 2:11 If you want to quote the Bible, quote the Bible as it is! Not only christians believe in the biblical account. Jews and (most) muslims believe it. Your criminal profit did.

[@ASHORSHEMAYA]

Welcome to the Arab-Islamic world, where denouncing any idea begins with looking for mistakes as a basic rule, followed by personalizing matters

[@exposingcp6943]

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[@noorlight4436]

Welcome to the Christians mindset, where they will believe just about anything!

[@ASHORSHEMAYA]

@@exposingcp6943 You are repeating yourself, man, do you not have anything else, oh yes it is true they all repeat the same lies until it appears true

[@ASHORSHEMAYA]

@@noorlight4436 Exactly, we are the ones who believe that Solomon was talking to an ant or that a person flew to the seventh heaven on the back of a flying donkey when no one saw him.🤣🤣

[@Sofian375]

@@ASHORSHEMAYA Are you an atheist? They make the same jokes about Biblical events...

[@JoeSmith-bz9to]

If we are being fair first we must read your book, then we must read Sydkys review and compare his critiques to your book, then we must compare your book, his review and your response all side by side and make up our minds. From your videos I can see that you are showing the Manuscripts of the past based on your long years of studies. From the videos I have seen, even I can see there have been deliberate scribal manipulation’s on some pieces.

[@tdsdave]

Danial's response pdf is worth a read in isolation . The "review" his book was subjected to described in that pdf alone seems more like a hit piece than anything. Of course if we are able to do the full analysis we should. I myself have little faith any work in this field will be treated as we should expect in an academic arena by invested Muslims.

[@exposingcp6943]

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[@ShepherdsHook]

Those who know only their side, Knows only half of the argument.

[@JoeSmith-bz9to]

I did reply to you earlier but KZbin must have deleted my comment! I did read parts of Dr Brubakers response and he does quote the review. I agree with him in principle when he says it is not academic work that is being critiqued. I agree with your point that Muslims will not make an effort to listen to historical evidence by Dr Daniel Brubaker, Dr Shady Nasser and Dr Daniel Gibson just to name a few. At least we know the truth, at least we know we can tell the lost sheeps whom are atheists or Christians with weak knowledge of Biblical Doctrine that hey if you think we are lying then check out all of this historical evidence against this Muslims claims from his sources. Perhaps we can turn the tide on the one side. Perhaps the other side will become more curious and search for the truth with technology and we can turn the tide on the other side as well! It can go from from fastest growing to fastest shrinking. No matter what the truth will prevail!

[@exposingcp6943]

@@ShepherdsHook I invite you to Islam. You cannot say tomorrow (Day of Judgement) that you were not informed about Islam. Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks

[@thomasdoubting]

"Humans make mistakes" is a surprisingly controversial statement. 👍

[@arulsammymankondar30]

It could be controversial only if you think either human beings are infallible or Brubaker is candid to admit his limitations .

[@joseywales3789]

@Arulsammy Mankondar, Yes! And I used to have a superiority complex.... But now I'm perfect!

[@exposingcp6943]

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[@yawehsaves3145]

Islam doesn't accept criticism. The one that finds fault with a person criticizing Islam considers you an infidel. For a muslim, it's always personal when criticising Islam. Just thought I let u no Dan.

[@isusjebogisaija96-75]

LORD JESUS IS ETERNAL WORD OF GOD (Isaiah 9 : 6-7) , (Micah 5 : 2) ! LORD JESUS IS ONLY WAY TO HEAVEN 🙏 (Isaiah 53) .

[@exposingcp6943]

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[@11385djg]

How come YQ cannot respond like Dr. DB does. Dr DB responds in a scholarly manner contrary to YQ with Phd

[@lucashenzo3023]

Because his(YQ) foundation is a sinking sand and if he agitates too much he would sink his cult deeper into the holes.

[@exposingcp6943]

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[@oprophetisfake9482]

What YQ really believes came out in his interview with Mohammed Hijab. You may consider it a fudge but it really is the only answer for a Muslim trying to hold together his faith in the face of all the qira'ats evidence. He simply throws up his hands and says I accept them all. The real problem is with unknowledgeable Muslims who like Uthman want to destroy all evidence that does not fit with what they want to believe. Because of this there were many criticisms and vilifications of YQ that were so bad he has had to try and take back his words.

[@exposingcp6943]

@@oprophetisfake9482 Accept Islam before its too late. Enough of gambling with your life. Research and learn about Islaam but not from newspapers, magazines, cartoons, enemies of Islaam etc. but from scholars of Islaam. You cannot complain on the day of judgement that nobody mentioned to you to accept Islaam.

[@Logia1978]

@@oprophetisfake9482 Muslim claim: The standard quran we have today is preserved and goes word for word to the most anciant manuscripts and the mushaf of Othman. Is this claim true... absolutely according to the consensus of western scholars.... This claim is false Only for those who have no idea of what they are talking about and think that a scribe error is a corruption and evolution in the transmission of the quran....

[@St.Irenaeus]

Keep doing what you’re sir. Love your work. God bless

[@exposingcp6943]

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[@abutalhs6648]

Dr. Marijn van Putten. Quran manuscript expert Dr Marijn van Putten explains the scribal mistakes in the 4 Uthmanic codices kzbin.info/www/bejne/bpDGlINjqJxqm9E Oldest' Koran found in Birmingham - BBC News. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oKDagqKkmZySi6c ======== PROF/ PASTOR. BART EHRMAN ON GOSPEL . Dr. Bart Ehrman Destroys The Crucifixion and The Resurrection History. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXuomnmlZbGVoKs

[@seanclark2085]

Telling the truth about Islam attracts loonies like a lamp attracts moths .

[@sparkle74HvH]

Wish someone would try to respond to CP's books.That would be funny

[@exposingcp6943]

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[@seanclark2085]

The “dots” indicating vowel sounds and changing the sound of individual letters were not introduced until the 9th century , long after Islam was created , there is no way of knowing what individual words actually meant or sounded like previous to adoption of this new ( it was actually stolen from Hebrew , like most of the Koran where it was introduced centuries earlier ) system of grammar . Why you posted it to me is unclear , what is clear is that you have very little understanding of of the evolution of Arabic ,and the consequences this had on later interpretation.

[@exposingcp6943]

#1: Bible is a Book of Books. Out of MANY, only "4" Gospels were selected by Church to be a part of the Bible in the NT. #2: None of the Gospels were written by the direct eye-witness #3: The 1st written Gospel was by what the Church thinks as Mark because they found the name Mark on the manuscript BUT this manuscript is NOT from the 1st Century. The EARLIEST manuscript is several later. The original is either lost/destroyed. #4: The Gospel written by "beloved of Jesus", whom the Church thinks as "John" mentioned things that were NOT mentioned by other Gospels. He/They introduced new concepts. #5: If the HS, was guiding the scribes, then why blunders in Bible. #6: What did RSV Bible mention in the Preface? Do you know? Was the scholarship behind the RSV compilation bunch of ignorant folks? Why do they declare that the KJV has SERIOUS ERRORS as the manuscripts upon which KJV was based had verses ADDED TO IT. This was proven when manuscripts OLDER than these manuscripts were found . #7: What about the ALREADY CONFIRMED corruption in Bible about for example: 1 John 5:7-8 [Johannes Comma], Story of adulteress, Handling snakes and drinking poison, etc. #8: Laymen Christians claim "WE HAVE ENTIRE NT MANUSCRIPTS” numbering in 6000. Unfortunately none of two manuscripts are similar. The copies have several issues in the writing (Not including the scribal human errors) #9: Michael Servetus was a sixteenth century Spanish theologian whose interpretations of the Bible brought him into conflict with the Church. In 1531 CE, Servetus published the book “Errors of the Trinity”, in which he said those who believed in the Trinity were really Tritheists (believers in three gods). He was condemned as a heretic and burnt alive atop a pyre of his own books #10: Christians should STOP the violation of the 1st commandment and accept Islaam since we are living in the times of Prophet Muhammad and there will no prophet to come till the Day of Judgment. These are few points why Book of Books is corrupted. I am not even including scientific error. The above few points are sufficient for a wise person to ponder.

[@noorlight4436]

Believing in other people who have no clear understanding of the Arabic language and not doing research yourself just shows you guys will believe just about anything.

[@MohamedIlNasrani]

Keep going Daniel

[@exposingcp6943]

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[@exposingcp6943]

#1: Bible is a Book of Books. Out of MANY, only "4" Gospels were selected by Church to be a part of the Bible in the NT. #2: None of the Gospels were written by the direct eye-witness #3: The 1st written Gospel was by what the Church thinks as Mark because they found the name Mark on the manuscript BUT this manuscript is NOT from the 1st Century. The EARLIEST manuscript is several later. The original is either lost/destroyed. #4: The Gospel written by "beloved of Jesus", whom the Church thinks as "John" mentioned things that were NOT mentioned by other Gospels. He/They introduced new concepts. #5: If the HS, was guiding the scribes, then why blunders in Bible. #6: What did RSV Bible mention in the Preface? Do you know? Was the scholarship behind the RSV compilation bunch of ignorant folks? Why do they declare that the KJV has SERIOUS ERRORS as the manuscripts upon which KJV was based had verses ADDED TO IT. This was proven when manuscripts OLDER than these manuscripts were found . #7: What about the ALREADY CONFIRMED corruption in Bible about for example: 1 John 5:7-8 [Johannes Comma], Story of adulteress, Handling snakes and drinking poison, etc. #8: Laymen Christians claim "WE HAVE ENTIRE NT MANUSCRIPTS” numbering in 6000. Unfortunately none of two manuscripts are similar. The copies have several issues in the writing (Not including the scribal human errors) #9: Michael Servetus was a sixteenth century Spanish theologian whose interpretations of the Bible brought him into conflict with the Church. In 1531 CE, Servetus published the book “Errors of the Trinity”, in which he said those who believed in the Trinity were really Tritheists (believers in three gods). He was condemned as a heretic and burnt alive atop a pyre of his own books #10: Christians should STOP the violation of the 1st commandment and accept Islaam since we are living in the times of Prophet Muhammad and there will no prophet to come till the Day of Judgment. These are few points why Book of Books is corrupted. I am not even including scientific error. The above few points are sufficient for a wise person to ponder.

[@MohamedIlNasrani]

@A Proud Believer Ijaz Ahmed is not a textual critic and in all honesty lacks adab. Thanks but no thanks, all respect for him went out the window when he started using foul language and threatened people's lives by doxxing them.

[@steviedfromtheflyovercount4739]

"Molecular Engineer" is writing a review, on scripture? Too funny for Words. Seriously? Where are the Muslim PhDs in the field, did they respond?

[@roshlew6994]

This work on textual criticism of Quran should have been done by Muslim scholars decades ago, yet they don't and attack those who do. Wonder why 🧐? 🤔

[@roshlew6994]

@Mark Bingham Islam is built on foundations of falsehoods, lies and deceits. Muslim apologist's have to employ deception, lies and oppression to protect Islam from critical scrutiny.

[@narendramodi9373]

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[@letmetalk2240]

Prof Bart Ehrman has said . there is nothing much to do because Quranic manuscript are identical to one another.

[@roshlew6994]

@@letmetalk2240 Dr. Dan Brubaker disagrees

[@letmetalk2240]

@@roshlew6994 Dr Dan should debate Prof. Bart Ehrman on Christianity which the prof has bashed to a pulp. This should be his priority and effort to bring back the glory of Christianity provided it has one.

[@MultiMark2]

We are following your work

[@hubertagamasu6283]

An absolute gentleman.

[@Erymanthios_Kafros]

You are attacking the basis of a savage, idiotic and misanthropic ideology: Islam. Expect rage, insults and all kinds of dirty attacks. But God is with you.

[@MrBlef666]

I bet the 300 pager comes from someone at Speakers Corner UK. All the Dawah specialist and youtubers :D - Mansur maybe? :D

[@jamalkhan3708]

Amazing work and it’s appreciated 👍

[@theguyver4934]

Just like biblical and historical evidence proves that jesus and his apostles were vegatarians biblical and historical evidence also proves that the trinity, atonement, original sin and hell are very late misinterpretations and are not supported by the early creed hence its not a part of Christianity I pray that Allah swt revives Christianity both inside and out preserves and protects it and makes its massage be witnessed by all people but at the right moment, place and time The secred text of the Bible says ye shall know them by their fruits So too that I say to my christian brothers and sisters be fruitful and multiply Best regards from a Muslim ( line of ismail )

[@user-qs9xd4gw2l]

Dr Brubaker really triggers The speakers corner Muslims 🤣

[@thetruthaboutmohammad5224]

Small movement on earth's plate can cause big tsunami. You have started the small movement and the wave 🌊 is building. May looks like a ripples on the deepest sea but for people have shallow understanding of quran is a massive tsunami. The pandemic is just make it even better as people try to find out if their faith is based on solid rock or just sand castle on the beach. God will always make a way for the salvation of the my muslim brother and sister

[@faisalwho]

As a Muslim I find your channel fascinating. However I should add, I don't take away from your work what most of your ardent Christian followers and Muslim bashing base seem to take away. I think more Muslims should follow your channel, you shed light and tell us alot about our history.

[@variantquran4505]

Thank you for the kind words. DB

[@theguyver4934]

Finally a muslim who thinks like me 😍

[@pinpoint3770]

there is good in investigating: more knowledge may lead you to leaving islam

[@faisalwho]

@@pinpoint3770 to the contrary, more knowledge has only affirmed my faith. Truth stands out clearly from falsehood.

[@pinpoint3770]

@@faisalwho keep on listening to the Truth

[@sphagbog]

Muslims should be extremely grateful to you for helping them find the truth about their holy book and their religion. What ever are they scared about?

[@letmetalk2240]

so far no damage has been done.

[@Kleyana]

@@letmetalk2240 Says who? I personally know 4 Muslims who left Islam after learning about DB and AP's work. I think it's high time to come out of denial that these videos aren't appreciated by Muslim youth!

[@sphagbog]

@@Kleyana I don't really know what you are saying. My point is that we should all pursue the truth and not merely believe arguments that support our religion whether Jew, Christian, atheist Muslim or Hindu. Dr B is obviously a man of integrity, helping us find truth. I thank God for him.

[@Kleyana]

@@sphagbog I replied to other dude, not you :)

[@sphagbog]

@@Kleyana ah! Muslims leaving Islam? I don't class that as damage. A definite positive

[@zoraidaortiz4743]

Congratulation on your new book I hope it will become the best seller.

[@exposingcp6943]

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[@koenboomsma92]

Scribal errors were common, and manuscripts aren't the primary source of preservation.

[@ngatatan2597]

But Dan, the only format of rebuttal by Muslims towards criticisms of Islam or it's sources is simply to attack the critic and not the points of criticism...

[@phillipoleary2532]

To get this reaction you're doing a good job. Love how polite you are too.

[@loungeroomrecords]

Don’t be scared, no one should curb your right to free speech and uncovering the truth. Such attacks will only increase in time as you discover and publish more and more. Be brave and never give up.

[@toomanymarys7355]

Btw it is my firm belief that Muhammad did not call his god Allah for several YEARS and did not syncretize him with the Allah of the Kaaba until then. The first name of his god was al-Rabb. The second Rahman. Only the third was Allah and finally Rahim, for actual names. Allah was in interpolated verses and was interpolated into other verses from early revelations, but actually not that commonly. That is why so many corrections have the added name of Allah. My professional background is a novelist with 30 or so books behind me, so I see editorial seams more clearly that 99 percent of people who approach this text.

[@markward3981]

Hi , I am a muslim, researching and considering truth. I have commented here before. I wasn't aware of the review however , I think a response should have been allowed even if it was short or with conditions. A second option could have been for the author of the review to open a live scholarly youtube dialogue . A third option would have been to suggest another platform/forum for a critique and response between you two. I am for learning and truth. I will continue to follow your work provided it is scholarly and respectful, even where I disagree or find error. Education and review is useful. Be Well.

[@letmetalk2240]

👍👍👍

[@variantquran4505]

Thank you, Mark. I appreciate these comments and agree with the general sentiments. Ultimately, a carefully considered response paper is probably the best thing in the current situation. Best wishes, DB

[@sylvanabecker5533]

Thank you for responding in a such a respectful manner and having an open mind! It’s a rarity when discussing religion. Peace.

[@markward3981]

@@sylvanabecker5533 Welcome.

[@theguyver4934]

@@markward3981 I'm so glad to see that there honest muslims like me

[@jesusislord9999]

That is Islam for u. They will criticise ur work bcos u are exposing their cult. The shape of letters looked the same in shape so u can confidently say it’s alif or another letter. Keep up ur good work

[@saifklee178]

Why are people freaking out because a review? Shouldnt muslims have THE right to respond?

[@pinpoint3770]

yes they can, but islam is not helping them: it is fake.

[@jdshl8423]

Ad hominem attacks is the way they function for the most part. It is meant to deflect from the big picture without having to deal with the actual subject matter. Your best bet would probably be to publish another book showing 100 corrections, and then another with 1000 corrections. They cannot escape overwhelming evidence.

[@exposingcp6943]

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[@jdshl8423]

@@exposingcp6943, not sure of the relevance of your reply. Your holy book is full of holes in the narrative plus lacks manuscripts plus contains a massive quantity of corrections. How do you consider it reliable? - waiting for the deflection to the Bible, per the expected modus operandi -

[@narendramodi9373]

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[@jdshl8423]

@@narendramodi9373, and yep! Modus operandi detected! It is not uncommon to make the hypothesis fit the data you know? You should be especially worried if it all lines up. As usual, critics miss the point.

[@narendramodi9373]

@@jdshl8423 Yep that is what I meant and not to talk about 'whataboutism'. It is sad to see there is NO sensible discussion on this ''controversial'' issue on this thread and almost all his other videos. Sadly most gone into Ad Hominem attack on calling Hythem a Muslim. If that is the case Brubaker is a Christian, and truly he is if you have watched his Christmas greetings! I almost bought his book assuming it was academic but not now, after author's own admission. Imagine those who have bought and the views they would hold, for and against. And we call them scholars!

[@CrossingJordan]

I enjoy your work, Dr. Brubaker. I appreciate your academic perspective on Islam.

[@hiisuee]

keep up the Professionalism and good work Dr Brubaker !! Continue to speak the truth !

[@simonhengle8316]

Dr Brubaker keep up the good work, and don’t get to distracted by replying to criticism 👍

[@Kleyana]

I really appreciate your work Dr. As a scientist, I didn't find any valid science in the Quran. It's a book written by 7th century men that's all. Nothing more than that.

[@timetoreason181]

Assuming you are a scientist, this is not about science in the Quran, but on corrections in early Quranic manuscripts. I also assume that you are an scientist from the Evangelical Church the way you side step the topic, even a fist year undergraduate would not make comments such silly.

[@Kleyana]

@@timetoreason181 I know what Dan is working on. My comment is to appreciate his work. On the other hand, I also mentioned my work along in the line as an expert, why are you bringing church into this?

[@narendramodi9373]

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[@Kawitamamayi]

Many are invested in preserving the narrative of “eternal perfect preservation.” They are certain to be disappointed by your scholarly research. The author of the Qur’an was an illiterate working class caravan robber so we should not expect he used grammatically correct Arabic or was ever taught to do so. How can one discern post facto grammatical corrections of the imperfect common (vulgar) Arabic recitation versus erasure of variant written manuscripts which we know historically existed?

[@exposingcp6943]

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[@MarkProffitt]

WHY did the corrections get made? What did they use to decide it was wrong and the changes were correct?

[@letmetalk2240]

@Shukur Dadabaev OFFICIAL Just an assumption and that is what Xtians are good at .. even their religion is built upon assumptions .. for eg did Jesus teach the church rituals and practices?

[@brothermagdi5637]

Dr Brubaker, did you come across group of specific variants in certain manuscripts groups? for example i've found in two manuscripts one from samarkand and other in turkey the same variant it's the "معروشات و غير معروشات" in sura ElEkhlas one of them this verse was written in maragilina and the 2nd manuscript was partially written معروشات only did you encountered that kind of "grouped" variations?

[@exposingcp6943]

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[@YuvanWinanda]

Your work is a masterpiece! Keep it up, Sir.

[@peterrocky4873]

Fact is there are changes It is not erased by Allah or added by Allah who promised no one can do that..

[@FullArmorApologetics]

The truth you tell, exposes the lie they live!!!

[@kamarudinhj.dolmoin8578]

As a muslim, I appreciate your honest, objective and hard work... keep it up! May Allah shows you the way.

[@variantquran4505]

I take this as a sincere compliment. Much appreciated.

[@ME-yp7fn]

The Quran is transmitting from the day one till today through the mutual-asserted sources النقل المتواتر, means that all Muslims have to memorize the Quran without the need of a manuscript, you can't learn the Quran by just reading it without a teacher to guide you through its proper pronunciations. Second this video didn't mention the multiple readings القراءات of the Quran in which Allah made it easy for early Muslims whom come from different Arab tribes, mostly illiterate, to recite the Quran in theirs dialect. There isn't many versions of the Quran, as this video suggest, but MANY READINGS that all agree on the meaning with minor differences. The multiple readings in the Quran is existing in the Uthmanic Mushaf as much as the Uthmanic rasm الرسم font can stand it. Uthman sent a teacher with each copy of the Quran to teach the Muslims how to recite it properly, it wasn't send it as some suggest for people to figure out how to recite it on their own. Finally, the prophet Muhammad (PBUH) not only recite the Quran to the Muslims but he used have many scribes wrote the Quran on whatever materials they had, therefore the Quran was preserved through memorization and writing from the beginning. Anyone wants to compare the Quran with the New Testament should read, The Orthodox Corruption of Scripture: The Effect of Early Christological Controversies on the Text of the New Testament by Bart D. Ehrman to appreciate the miracle of the Quran preservation, Allah says in the Quran "9. Surely We [Allah] revealed the Message, and We will surely preserve it." [Quran 15:9] إِنَّا نَحْنُ نَزَّلْنَا الذِّكْرَ وَإِنَّا لَهُ لَحَافِظُونَ (9)" سورة الحجر " For whom they want know the truth of the Quran, I recommend this book: The History of The Qur'anic Text: From Revelation to Compilation: A Comparative Study with the Old and New Testaments by Muhammad Mustafa Al-Azami A contradiction if the verse said two different meanings at the same time. To understand the Quran, you need to take the Quran in totality plus use the authenticated sound Hadith to support your understanding of the Quran. Again, there are no versions of Quran, but readings (aka recitations) also you have no clue of the styles of the Arabic language and how it does work, for example the a sentence can be written in various ways with the same exact meanings or slight difference in one word that support each other meanings in the other readings, that is why the Ten recitations is very important tool in Quran exegesis . Even Muslim scholars wrote books about this multiple readings, and any good reciter of the Quran aware of them. Theology is about God, jurisprudence is about laws that govern believers in this world, again read more about the Jewish traditions, Christianity doesn't know this type of difference, I guess!! The Theology of Quran is one, pure monotheism, but the jurisprudence can be different in degree not quality, you can say that all Muslims don't eat pork, they pray, they fast, but they can be different legal rules regarding minor things that vary according to circumstances and conditions making Sharia Law (Islamic Law) flexible to time and place. This hadith shows that this recitations/facets go back to the prpohet himself: ‘Umar ibn al-Khattāb (may Allah be pleased with him) reported: I heard Hishām ibn Hakīm recite Sūrat al-Furqān during the lifetime of the Messenger of Allah (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him). I listened to his recitation and noticed that he recited it in many ways which the Messenger of Allah (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him) had not taught me. So I was about to jump upon him during the prayer, but I waited till he finished the prayer, whereupon I seized him by either his upper garment or mine and asked him: "Who taught you how to recite this Sūrah?" He replied: "The Messenger of Allah (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him) taught me how to recite it." So I said to him: "You have told a lie! By Allah, the Messenger of Allah (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him) taught me this Sūrah which I have heard you recite." So I set forth, leading him to the Messenger of Allah (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him). I said: "O the Messenger of Allah, I heard this man recite Sūrat al-Furqān in ways which you have not taught me, and you taught me how to recite it." On that, the Messenger of Allah (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him) said: "O ‘Umar, let go of him! Recite, O Hishām." So Hishām recited before him in the way I had heard him recite. the Messenger of Allah (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him) said: "It was revealed like this." Then the Messenger of Allah (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him) said: "Recite, O ‘Umar!" So I recited it. The Prophet (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him) said: "It was revealed like this." And then he added: "Indeed, this Qur’an has been revealed in seven different ways, so recite it in the way that is easy for you." Sahih/Authentic. - [Al-Bukhari and Muslim] Anyway, the Quran exactly addresses people like you, Allah says in the Quran: "7. It is He who revealed to you the Book. Some of its verses are definitive; they are the foundation of the Book, and others are unspecific. As for those in whose hearts is deviation, they follow the unspecific part, seeking dissent, and seeking to derive an interpretation. But none knows its interpretation except God and those firmly rooted in knowledge say, “We believe in it; all is from our Lord.” But none recollects except those with understanding." [Quran 3:7]

[@d.bcooper2271]

Is the Qur'an preserved? kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5_GkqBmjZl1nJIsi=gBryKGtROOBbJOU6​@@variantquran4505

[@afolayanonesimus3409]

Dear Dr. Dan, we are praying for you, so keep strong and courageous. The Lord is your strength.

[@nathandurant2825]

Couldn't they find another linguist? I'm genuinely confused.

[@exposingcp6943]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hnitY52iftR_Y9k

[@m005kennedy]

A humble scholar. Amazing!

[@natelawrence]

Dr. Brubaker, a technical note regarding KZbin: Thank you for putting timecodes in your video description however KZbin's chapters feature (where splits in the progress bar are visible at chapter divisions) will not activate unless the first timecode in the list is 0:00.

[@variantquran4505]

Very good - I will adjust now. Thank you so much for that tip, Nate. DB

[@timetoreason181]

The plot thickens day by day, oh these 'scholars', whom to trust! [yes with ! instead ?]

[@exposingcp6943]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hnitY52iftR_Y9k

[@mansoorkaghaz9669]

It is always a trick of Muslim shaikhs and priests to pick on grammar or accent of someone to be the cause of a mistake which is such a trick to fool them that Arabic is the only way to understand - and it is not because God means God in any language - or good or bad- Also most interpretation of Quran which are really the main sources were written by non árabs and as well- old Arabic is not something most of todays scholars do not know either … so u are doing an amazing thing

[@Logia1978]

What a joke... Dr Brubaker, you presented yourself as a scholar with a scholarship work. Now that scholars are refuting your "scholarship" works with a scholarship methodology, you feel that they should not do it ?

[@alfiras8604]

I think you know as well as I do that Hythem pointed out many flaws in your book. Your response is literally clutching at straws.

[@pinpoint3770]

we all know islam is evil and false

[@usefulquidam]

I´ve read the critique and found it sound and grounded into good arguments. This is peer review. Dr Brubaker has to respond in the same way rather than doing it on youtube

[@variantquran4505]

www.academia.edu/44923907/Corrections_to_Hythem_Sidkys_review_of_Corrections_in_Early_Qurʾān_Manuscripts_Twenty_Examples

[@variantquran4505]

Here is one that is not behind a sign-in (as on Academia.edu): arukiyomi.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Brubaker-response-to-Sidky-review-of-CEQM-2.3.pdf

[@variantquran4505]

And this: poj.peeters-leuven.be/content.php?url=article&id=3289841&journal_code=BIOR

[@europg81]

To be fair you should read the tafsir of qurtubi of the verse" We have sent down the reminder adh-dhikra and we will protect it, guard it. Surah Hijr ayah 9 Qatadah and Thabit Al Bunani both from the tabi'in said" It is protected from satan that he may add a falsehood or delete a truth Then he goes on telling a story with a young Jewish man who embraced Islam after he made 3 copies of the Torah by adding and subtracting on purpose, presented them to the Jewish and they bought them, then he made 3 copies of the Injil by adding and subtracting, presented them to the Christians they bought them, then he made 3 copies of the Qur'an by adding and subtracting and presented them to the Muslims, they check the books and when they detected the addition and deletion they did not accept his books If you want to do justice to your research you should check the books of tafsir at tabari Al qurtubi ibn Kathir and there are other less famous but much older, if the message of Islam is different than that means the Qur'an has not been preserved. But if it is the same and if you consider yourself a scholar then you will do justice and clarify the findings

[@dr.shahiniqbal9036]

It's truly unfortunate if you were mistreated by some people. But you have to admit that your whole "point" seems to be to prove that Quran has not been transmitted reliably. Just look at the name of your channel for that matter. I am surprised that you find the negative reaction of so many muslims surprising!

[@hahaloser3914]

Dr. Brubaker's expertise is in early quran manuscripts, which is the subject of this video too. Same is the topic of this discussion thread >>>>Only recently western academics have started doing academic & research work on early quran ------------------------- Right .. and we see many others who supported the belief that Quran is preserved. In fact what I can gather is, Dr Brubaker is still new to this field. I believe he didn't master the Arabic language or having indepth Quranic studies. That is why we see simple mistakes made by him. He should first engage with others in this field and learn from those who have more experiences than him for example Dr. Joseph Lumbard .

[@searchingdivine7703]

Dr Brubaker. I’m a British Muslim woman of Pakistani origin. I diligently follow your videos and work. As a Muslim, I appreciate your work and mannerism. I agree with the comments down below that you are doing the work which Muslim scholars should have picked up. I will read your response you have mentioned in your video. I wanted to enquire if you have heard about or read a book called Ageless Koran, timeless text. The book defends the claim of Muslims that Koran has been transmitted unaltered to the World since the times of prophet Muhammad as word of Allah. I was interested in finding out your views on it. Thank you

[@ME-yp7fn]

The Quran is transmitting from the day one till today through the mutual-asserted sources النقل المتواتر, means that all Muslims have to memorize the Quran without the need of a manuscript, you can't learn the Quran by just reading it without a teacher to guide you through its proper pronunciations. Second this video didn't mention the multiple readings القراءات of the Quran in which Allah made it easy for early Muslims whom come from different Arab tribes, mostly illiterate, to recite the Quran in theirs dialect. There isn't many versions of the Quran, as this video suggest, but MANY READINGS that all agree on the meaning with minor differences. The multiple readings in the Quran is existing in the Uthmanic Mushaf as much as the Uthmanic rasm الرسم font can stand it. Uthman sent a teacher with each copy of the Quran to teach the Muslims how to recite it properly, it wasn't send it as some suggest for people to figure out how to recite it on their own. Finally, the prophet Muhammad (PBUH) not only recite the Quran to the Muslims but he used have many scribes wrote the Quran on whatever materials they had, therefore the Quran was preserved through memorization and writing from the beginning. Anyone wants to compare the Quran with the New Testament should read, The Orthodox Corruption of Scripture: The Effect of Early Christological Controversies on the Text of the New Testament by Bart D. Ehrman to appreciate the miracle of the Quran preservation, Allah says in the Quran "9. Surely We [Allah] revealed the Message, and We will surely preserve it." [Quran 15:9] إِنَّا نَحْنُ نَزَّلْنَا الذِّكْرَ وَإِنَّا لَهُ لَحَافِظُونَ (9)" سورة الحجر " For whom they want know the truth of the Quran, I recommend this book: The History of The Qur'anic Text: From Revelation to Compilation: A Comparative Study with the Old and New Testaments by Muhammad Mustafa Al-Azami A contradiction if the verse said two different meanings at the same time. To understand the Quran, you need to take the Quran in totality plus use the authenticated sound Hadith to support your understanding of the Quran. Again, there are no versions of Quran, but readings (aka recitations) also you have no clue of the styles of the Arabic language and how it does work, for example the a sentence can be written in various ways with the same exact meanings or slight difference in one word that support each other meanings in the other readings, that is why the Ten recitations is very important tool in Quran exegesis . Even Muslim scholars wrote books about this multiple readings, and any good reciter of the Quran aware of them. Theology is about God, jurisprudence is about laws that govern believers in this world, again read more about the Jewish traditions, Christianity doesn't know this type of difference, I guess!! The Theology of Quran is one, pure monotheism, but the jurisprudence can be different in degree not quality, you can say that all Muslims don't eat pork, they pray, they fast, but they can be different legal rules regarding minor things that vary according to circumstances and conditions making Sharia Law (Islamic Law) flexible to time and place. This hadith shows that this recitations/facets go back to the prpohet himself: ‘Umar ibn al-Khattāb (may Allah be pleased with him) reported: I heard Hishām ibn Hakīm recite Sūrat al-Furqān during the lifetime of the Messenger of Allah (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him). I listened to his recitation and noticed that he recited it in many ways which the Messenger of Allah (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him) had not taught me. So I was about to jump upon him during the prayer, but I waited till he finished the prayer, whereupon I seized him by either his upper garment or mine and asked him: "Who taught you how to recite this Sūrah?" He replied: "The Messenger of Allah (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him) taught me how to recite it." So I said to him: "You have told a lie! By Allah, the Messenger of Allah (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him) taught me this Sūrah which I have heard you recite." So I set forth, leading him to the Messenger of Allah (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him). I said: "O the Messenger of Allah, I heard this man recite Sūrat al-Furqān in ways which you have not taught me, and you taught me how to recite it." On that, the Messenger of Allah (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him) said: "O ‘Umar, let go of him! Recite, O Hishām." So Hishām recited before him in the way I had heard him recite. the Messenger of Allah (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him) said: "It was revealed like this." Then the Messenger of Allah (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him) said: "Recite, O ‘Umar!" So I recited it. The Prophet (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him) said: "It was revealed like this." And then he added: "Indeed, this Qur’an has been revealed in seven different ways, so recite it in the way that is easy for you." Sahih/Authentic. - [Al-Bukhari and Muslim] Anyway, the Quran exactly addresses people like you, Allah says in the Quran: "7. It is He who revealed to you the Book. Some of its verses are definitive; they are the foundation of the Book, and others are unspecific. As for those in whose hearts is deviation, they follow the unspecific part, seeking dissent, and seeking to derive an interpretation. But none knows its interpretation except God and those firmly rooted in knowledge say, “We believe in it; all is from our Lord.” But none recollects except those with understanding." [Quran 3:7]

[@joetoday7273]

Thank you Dr. Brubaker for sharing your studies and research through your videos. You have enlightened or should I say corrected part of history and what was taught in schools and universities. I have always been interested and facinated about different types of religions. This came about in my college days when I took research jobs for professionals trying to acquire their doctorate degree. They didn't have the time while I didn't have the dime. It was those times when I learned a little knowhow to do research. And this is also why I would like to commend you for your work but more importantly, your objectivity and ethics. My admiration goes out to you Sir. I can only hope all the best for you and your endeavours. I am already passed the prime of my life and way passed dreaming of becoming like you. However, should you reach the point to a decisive conclusion in your quest for the truth, I hope to still be alive to share your victory. Looking forward to watch more of your unfolding. God Speed!

[@Tatar_Piano]

Its not rude to point out mistakes of others especially if that other is poking his nose into smb's religion and doesnt even know proper arabic in the first place

[@timetoreason181]

Very lengthy apology!

[@drdavidfoo6632]

I think the word ultracrepidarian comes to mind

[@jesusislord9999]

Dr Brubaker=Dr Quran breaker

[@letmetalk2240]

Dr Brubaker = HalfBaked

[@lkae4]

Did this molecular engineer minor in Qur'anic history? Very curious.

[@Draous1]

Very important he mentioned that. Its like when we get climate change advice fron phds but not in that field.

[@letmetalk2240]

this doctor himself has no PhD in Quranic studies and Arabic language. lol

[@lkae4]

@@letmetalk2240 Really? What's Dr Brubaker's PhD in?

[@letmetalk2240]

@@lkae4 ask him.

[@lkae4]

@@letmetalk2240 You don't know? So you just lied to everyone?

[@drdavidfoo6632]

I hope these reviews can help your book sell...It seems you have hit upon a sensitive spot among Islamists

[@exposingcp6943]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hnitY52iftR_Y9k

[@warandpeacewithahintofasaf1488]

Dr. Brubaker, I will make a recommendation that you can create a list in Google Sheets about books you recommend to read and link them in your description. In that way, it will be easier for you to just refer to it and will also help spread that list faster as compared to individual mentions in different videos.

[@variantquran4505]

That is a good idea. I will consider. Not so familiar with Google Sheets, so have patience please. DB

[@tdsdave]

Such a familiar type of hit piece , lots of chaff, full of strawmen , quote mining, inability(denied) to respond directly to the critique , the Ummah has a new comfort blanket

[@exposingcp6943]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hnitY52iftR_Y9k

[@joshd3502]

Keep up the good work. The criticisms are baseless and lack academic quality.

[@Logia1978]

If the objective of Brubaker’s book is to demonstrate *the humanity* of the scribes involved in transmitting the Quranic text, it *certainly succeeds* . It is well presented and accessible, and does an admirable job guiding the reader through a nuanced and technical subject using a series of photographs and clear descriptions. Where it falls short, however , is in its methodology and analysis . Although Brubaker states that he always gives scribal error first consideration, this is not apparent from the book. In fact, the vast majority of examples in the book are best explained through *simple scribal error*. The main thesis, namely, that the flexibility of the Quranic text persisted centuries beyond its standardization (p. 95), *remains unproven* . Dr Hythem Sidky University of Chicago

[@houseofsaudisthebeast]

muhammaded denied the crucifixion and resurrection. meaning completely disregard isIam

[@letmetalk2240]

The Bible itself refutes the claim that Jesus was crucified. Read Luke 13:33 and Hebrew 5:7

[@houseofsaudisthebeast]

​@@letmetalk2240 Did you bother to read luke 13:34, you know, the next verse? Hebrews 5:7 says "save him from death" not "save him from dying" try reading matthew 20:17-19 where Jesus says he is going to be killed and resurrected. also read the parts of the bible where Jesus is killed and resurrected and then everyone testifiying of it.

[@letmetalk2240]

@@houseofsaudisthebeast otherwise it is another contradiction. Hebrew 5:7 said it explicitly he was saved from death. Luke 13:33 mentioned Jesus having said no prophet died outside Jerusalem. Hence, the person died on the cross at Golgotha outside Jerusalem cannot be him.

[@houseofsaudisthebeast]

@@letmetalk2240 thats part of jerusalem

[@houseofsaudisthebeast]

@@letmetalk2240 being resurrected from the dead is being saved from death.

[@steviedfromtheflyovercount4739]

Did you write up a review and put it out on a PDF? I didn't read the paper, because they said it wasn"t insignificant" errors? What is "insignificant"? Please keep the conversation on a academic level.

[@steviedfromtheflyovercount4739]

"Humans make mistakes" is not a problem with my Latin/Greek scholar at Saint Louis University who spent endless hours looking at Roman and Greek texts, provided by the Vatican Library in the 1960s.

[@mdc8698]

Dr. Brubaker, you are the forefront of incredible research. Thank you for your labors!

[@letmetalk2240]

🤣🤣🤣

[@yvonnegonzales2973]

Hello Doc, What's your reaction & response on critique of Shabbir ally & Ahmed ijaz? You gonna create a videos just as sidkey?

[@steviedfromtheflyovercount4739]

Excellent video. Very interesting. Also, the Catholics had the Scripts in the Monastery preserving ancient texts and the Bible..... I am not familiar with the Islamic world and how they preserved their significant works. That would be interesting. Thank you. God Bless.

[@ShepherdsHook]

Am writing letters to friends and family in academia. Islamic morass is a gold mine of research for doctrinal thesis.

[@ekurti5228]

Jesus bless you and your work. May He use you strongly!!

[@anselmdanker9519]

I appreciate your work as a scholar, also the manner in which you express your views.Thank you.

[@habibahsilalahi4587]

It's not variant in Alqur'an, Many natural sciences already proof what Alqur'an said. So it' s bulsheet that anybody said what is it Alqur'an variant

[@habibahsilalahi4587]

There is not have variant in Alqur'an because Many The natural sciences already said in Alqur'an and already proof before The natural science exist. The holy Alqur'an have told story about how Marry mother of Jesus when Marry had pragnant.

[@haljordan9607]

Qur'an has nothing to do with the science at all. Every « scientific mistake » allegedly found in the Qur'an is just ignorance and lie about ayah's meaning, tafseer and the context. Even Muslims admitted ( like Hamza Dzortzis or Ali dawah, but Ali doesn't know islam well, I can say it as a former muslim, so it doesn't matter that much kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJuWlol7fsxni9Usi=5Kqn7c_k0XOkk3xv

[@shark0621]

One thing I’m very shocked about these people is that they are very comfident on the matters they didnt even have an idea of😂..but i come to know that these christians they tend to force justification between the Quran and the corrupted bible which they claim to be the true word of god...,besides the many versions of bibles wich differ from one another in number of books and also the context inside...example the roman cathlic bible which have 73 books and the KJV bible with 66 books where 7 less books which are thrown out😅.., furthermore the four gospels themselves contradicts,differs themselves like “The taking of a staff and sandals is permitted in Mark 6:8-9 but prohibited in Matthew 10:9-10 and Luke 9:3”...,verses that are thrown out as fabrications by RSV bible like the trinity verse in 1 epistle of John 5:7, John 3:16 Also the added verses which weren’t available in the manuscripts in Mark 16:9-20😅... Then the own words of paul in CORINTHIANS 7:12 To the rest I say (I, not the Lord) that if any brother has a wife who is an unbeliever, and she consents to live with him, he should not divorce her. Then by all that editions,fabrications,own words of paul😂...but yet you claim the bible it is the true word of god worse enough Paul and other places in the bible predict the end of the world to be happened in their life time which was false it never happened till today😂 as paul says in 1Thessalonians 4:15 “According to the Lord's word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep”.... So is god as they claim to be Jesus mistaken if it is his words then they didnt happened..!😂 But even the bible deny that it isn’t the true word of god since it never said in atleast a single verse that it is from god... More amazingly you dont even know who wrote the four gospels😂..they were writen by annonymous authors...since they are thought to be from the actual Mark,John,Luke or Mathew but the truth is that even Mathew doesnt show that he wrote the gospel of Mathew..in Mathew 9:9 As Jesus went on from there, he saw a man named Matthew sitting at the tax collector’s booth. “Follow me,”(B) he told him, and Matthew got up and followed him. The author is someone heard of mathew story..Thus why it is the gosel according to Mark,Mathew,Luke and John but NOT AGospel of Mark,Luke,Mathew or Joh😂..what is that according to...,according to...,according to.... Then why you even dont think of analyzing your own bible with all its defects,antopolations,fabrications,editions and peoples words😂...WHY..?

[@letmetalk2240]

TRUE!

[@ak4j247]

Take a step back and read your first few lines. That actually applies to you! 🤣🤣🤣

[@letmetalk2240]

@@ak4j247 explain ... make yr point .. not just mumbling.

[@John_Six_Twenty-Nine]

The Quran has been -perfectly preserved- -corrected- "molecularly re-engineered" by Allah

[@exposingcp6943]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hnitY52iftR_Y9k

[@letmetalk2240]

Yahweh has given you the proof and still you're ignorant of it. Yahweh did not preserve the Bible. We see different Bibles. In fact, the modern Bible that is in your hand today was completed by taking two old Bible as the basis - Codex Vaticanus and Codex Sinaiticus. Make a check when these two Bibles were discovered. Check and compare also the three Bibles and Yahweh has preserved the differences for us to see. Yet the Quran has only ONE VERSION which required no revision. If Quran is false, surely Yahweh has the means to prove it. BUT NO. He preserved it.

[@exposingcp6943]

​ @vepop By the grace of Allah, the Qur-aan is perfectly preserved via memorization orally and in written form. Manuscripts are also preserved in museums. The problem with Bible (which is a Book of Books) is full of letters written by different people and a collection of books, Many of those books were removed by the Church over the period of time. Also, Please understand the difference between different translations of the SAME verse compared to saying a different subject and opposite of what was there. Sincere Christian scholars have agreed to the fact that there were serious interpolations, additions and subtractions in Bible. Can you answer WHY no of books reduced. Also just read the preface of for example "REVISED" Standard Version. Forget about the Bible brother, the name Jesus is also corrupted. This is NOT his real name. His name in Arabic is Esa and in Syriac his name is Esho.

[@exposingcp6943]

​ @vepop By the grace of Allah, the Qur-aan is perfectly preserved via memorization orally and in written form. Manuscripts are also preserved in museums. The problem with Bible (which is a Book of Books) is full of letters written by different people and a collection of books, Many of those books were removed by the Church over the period of time. Also, Please understand the difference between different translations of the SAME verse compared to saying a different subject and opposite of what was there. Sincere Christian scholars have agreed to the fact that there were serious interpolations, additions and subtractions in Bible. Can you answer WHY no of books reduced. Also just read the preface of for example "REVISED" Standard Version. Forget about the Bible brother, the name Jesus is also corrupted. This is NOT his real name. His name in Arabic is Esa and in Syriac his name is Esho.

[@John_Six_Twenty-Nine]

@@letmetalk2240 I thought your Quran says that Allah sent the Injeel and Torah? And you say he could not preserve it? What an incompetent God! Muhammed affirms the Bible that was in the hands of Jews and Christians when he was alive as affirmed in multiple hadiths. Make a check when this was. If there were 3 bibles, why didnt he say they were corrupted instead of confirming their authority? Do you realise that Sinaticus and Vaticanus were compiled centuries earlier?! Are you disagreeing with your prophet??

[@jocelyngumtang5156]

Keep doing what you are doing!Do not mind thosed people

[@mrsmith4662]

Of course you are going to be attacked; your academic work is showing that the Quran is not miraculously preserved as the Islamic orthodoxy claims. You have to be dismissed by any means, such as 'you are not qualified as an expert in this field'. Keep going, the house of cards is tumbling down!

[@letmetalk2240]

>>>the house of cards is tumbling down! ------------------------- What is reported in the media is that churches are closing down or converted to mosques in the west. 😊

[@philomela1102]

I’m sorry. I can’t get past 0:17. A molecular engineer is not qualified to write a book review on this topic, publishable by the U of Chicago. In academia, it is *always* someone knowledgeable in the field who writes a book review. Just being Muslim doesn’t qualify you to write a book review in Islamic Studies appearing in a journal from a university press!!! A personal blog, yes. A UP journal, NO! What a disgrace to the journal. Signed, a tenure-track professor in literary studies

[@letmetalk2240]

lol .. this doctor himself has no PhD in Quranic studies or Arabic language. 😂

[@letmetalk2240]

@Mark Bingham it is laughable when my Muslim brothers pointed out his mistakes and he admitted it .. .. . >>>He certainly has a Ph.D., and from a reputable institution under a highly respected academic. ---------------- right and agreed but he is not trained in this field. 😊

[@letmetalk2240]

@Mark Bingham Compare to Bart Ehrman who studied the Bible in 1976 until now. How long did Dr Brubaker study Quran?

[@letmetalk2240]

@Mark Bingham lol .. what I have criticized has become a pain in your arse. You could not answer.

[@narendramodi9373]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qV6keoShabCNbLc

[@Nandini_1.]

You are doing an amazing job of clarifying and exposing the quran , and those who have no common sense or courtesy are wanting attention by throwing stones. You are an excellent example of a Christian man 🙏🏼

[@abrahamnewsalem]

Praise be to Jesus Christ

[@lovespirit9061]

Recommend a Christian Apologist..

[@lastprophet8338]

Muslims believe that Quran is perfect but unfortunately it’s far from perfection

[@chrisazure1624]

It is far from acceptable.

[@letmetalk2240]

@@chrisazure1624 so far none can debunk it.

[@chrisazure1624]

@@letmetalk2240 None can validate it. It is a literary disaster.

[@letmetalk2240]

@@chrisazure1624 Compare to the Bible, Quran is perfect.

[@chrisazure1624]

@@letmetalk2240 Do you disavow God's word? Quran 3:3 He has revealed to you ˹O Prophet˺ the Book in truth, confirming what came before it, as He revealed the Torah and the Gospel 4:136 O ye who believe! Believe in Allah and His Messenger, and the scripture which He hath sent to His Messenger and the scripture which He sent to those before (him). Any who denieth Allah, His angels, His Books, His Messengers, and the Day of Judgment, hath gone far, far astray.

[@dafyddaprhys782]

I think that in all forensic investigations patterns emerge that begin or may sway possible conclusion outcomes. Therefore one must be careful not to assume a pattern but observe and report each separate observation. Thus each individual item observed in it’s own right and this is apparently your method as shown by your presentations. Therefore your path is seeking truth not that of a desired or predetermined conclusion. Such a path therefore is as a journey that changes as more evidence comes to light. What you have established is that the text has been altered therefore the original has not been preserved.

[@exposingcp6943]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hnitY52iftR_Y9k

[@juadwhite1391]

As for the content of your previous video, did you compare the variants you spotted in that manuscript to predating manuscripts?, if yes, what was the result? (Thank you so much).

[@variantquran4505]

No, I did not take that step with that video. It was just a survey of a page to show what corrections exist. Such a thing as you suggest would be a natural next step if we were to do a full consideration and analysis. DB.

[@MCXM111]

Poor guy, keeps trying and trying. Yasir Qadhi destroyed and ruined this "scholar" 🤣🤣🤣 You are finished, boy 👌👍

[@hannahschilling8250]

Hey, Dr. Brubaker, sprechen Sie Deutsch??

[@variantquran4505]

Spoken, not so much. Reading, with a dictionary as needed, yes. DB

[@pinpoint3770]

look to brother Amir for critique on islam in German

[@henktmmr]

Thank you! Keep up the good work! GBU!

[@maryumbargola5925]

Hey Dr Brubaker. Please post more videos that prove all the editing, erasures and taping of Quran Manuscripts. Im sure other viewers would like to see more. Proofs of erasures onthe Quran increases our knowledge and will stop criticisms about your work. Proofs cant deny truth. Thank you for your patience. I know youre a busy man but I really love more videos regarding Quran erasures. Thank you for all your work. May the Lord bless you more.

[@variantquran4505]

Thanks Maryum. I will be doing so. Best to you, DB

[@dobberdop]

It is weird to publish a review of a non (mentioned) scholary book in a scholary journal. It is like when dr. NT Wright, get an academic review about his books under the name Tom Wright. Of course there is a review needed. And criticism is always welcome. But you need to understand for what public it is written. @Dr Brubaker A question: maybe you can write an academic book about this topic.

[@variantquran4505]

Thanks, and you are correct on all counts. And, yes, I am working on more than one academic monograph. Best, DB

[@variantquran4505]

To be fair, my book obviously included scholarly material, so it was not entirely weird, just the length and the tone of the review. It is a good thing for it to be reviewed in such a journal, for that I would not complain, but one would hope that criticism would be fair and the critique competent.

[@dobberdop]

I understand, but what i understand it is like we called here popular academic. So understandable for a wide public. And the review need to be for that. But thanks for the answer and keep up the good work.

[@lunakhod]

Go ahead and do not worry about critics. These critics come generally from person who could not review their subjective believe and try to hide the prevent other people to get out from the dark well

[@otacon_ahyo]

the man doesn;t even speak or understand arabic :)

[@frencyv]

Your patreon link is broken!

[@variantquran4505]

Thank you! I fixed it. DB

[@hannahschilling8250]

Can you please put your videos on Bitchute too? I enjoy your videos.

[@variantquran4505]

Thanks - there are so many things to do. I will try to get that into my workflow soon. DB

[@ngutoranga2733]

I stumbled at an interesting response to you on KZbin from the Dawahwise channel. He claims to be a scholar. I suppose that having honored you with a response you should also honor him with a response. This were my comments on the video Thank God that you took the challenge to respond. This is what we look for. We hope he responds. How I wish we are able to read comments about your video. In my understanding, you didn't refute him. His point is that there is a correction and with that you agree. He doesn't claim that the scribe was incompetent. Note that you made general statements about him using just one instance. Thank you