Bruce and John: unlikely besties

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Three Men and a Baby is a 1987 American comedy film directed by Leonard Nimoy. It stars Tom Selleck, Steve Guttenberg, and Ted Danson as three bachelors as they attempt to adapt their lives to de facto fatherhood with the arrival of the love child of one of the men. The script was based on the 1985 French film Trois hommes et un couffin (Three Men and a Cradle).
|| CONTENTS ||
0:00 - introduction
1:28 - david, bruce and john
4:22 - episode structure
6:01 - excuses
7:19 - credits and message
|| mystery song of the day ||
We were speeding together
Down the dark avenues
But besides of the stardom
All we got was blues
But through all of that sorrow
We were riding high
And the truth of the matter is
I never let you go, let you go
We were scanning the cities
Rocking to pay the dues
But besides of the glamour
All we got was bruised
But through all of that sorrow
We were riding high
And the truth of the matter is
I never let you go, let you go
You go down just like Holy Mary
Mary on a, Mary on a cross
Not just another Bloody Mary
Mary on a, Mary on a cross
If you choose to run away with me
I will tickle you internally
And I see nothing wrong with that
We were searching for reasons
To play by the rules
But we quickly found
It was just for fools
Now through all of this sorrow
We'll be riding high
And the truth of the matter is
I never let you go, let you go
You go down just like Holy Mary
Mary on a, Mary on a cross
Not just another Bloody Mary
Mary on a, Mary on a
You go down just like Holy Mary
Mary on a, Mary on a cross
Your beauty never ever scared me
Mary on a, Mary on a cross
If you choose to run away with me
I will tickle you internally
And I see nothing wrong with that
Nothing wrong with that
(Mary on a, Mary on a cross)
Nothing wrong with that
(Mary on a, Mary on a cross)
(Mary on a) Mary on a cross

[@CatholicDragoon]

So the moral of the story is that having a friend who you can banter with is the true secret to saving the world.

[@Rhapsodos_X]

Because to save one life, even if it is our own, saves the world

[@luzk1031]

If every person could be a good friend to each other, the world could have achieved true peace many ages ago.

[@TheVivvav]

I think this cafeteria scene shows how, at least at this point in his timeline, this may be one of the most mentally-healthy version of Batman across all media. He's sitting down to lunch with a friend at work, playfully ribbing each other about their love lives. That's such a normal thing that is so atypical of Batman, which you don't get to see in most media. The League was really good for him in this incarnation.

[@rvawildcardwolf2843]

The fandom's desire for slice of life moments with Batman that show he's okay is in frustrating opposition with DC's insistence of big fight scenes and constantly trying to preserve his badass noir cred. I will say there seem to be other relatively functional Batman's in official timelines. Batfleck seemed to be pretty together the the Justice League movie and Flash, which were rough movies but still hold he was doing alright. And of course Wayne Family Adventure's has a niche with Batman leaning into being the Dad of the adopted Batfamily. There's also the brave and the bold, the whole point of which was Batman enjoying crime-fighting and having good working relationships and friendships with other heros. Not disagreeing with you, but media where Bruce seems to be in an alright place is out there. And I think as fan demand continues and DC continues to fragment, we'll see more.

[@niceatsymbolethereyoutube]

@@rvawildcardwolf2843 I think people just kinda need a depressed hero. there are many 'batman spinoffs' in and out of DC comics and many had much more optimism in them. But a charcter that was orignally batman but then got better is ... i actually dont know. is that a bruce wayne. a recovered batman. is that just a dead batman in a world that would never need heros again? end of the tale kinda thing. Become just a dude? (ha. the last page of dc ever to ever be published could just be The Batman openly laughing at his pal Superman unable to leap Wayne tower)

[@rvawildcardwolf2843]

@@niceatsymbolethereyoutube I get what you're saying. But I don't think there's a true batman anymore. The character has been around almost a 100 years in so much media, so many continities, under so many writers. To me any Batman that's entertaining is legitimate, from the Adam West show to Frank Miller's comics. So if more comics show that Bruce becomes mentally healthier and develops more real meaningful relationships, I'll be all for it, because that's a story I want to see. But I'll still love broody emo Batman too when he's done well. My two favorite pieces of modern Batman media are Matt Reeves The Batman, and Wayne Family Adventures. There's room for both. I do love your idea for a theoretical last panel of DC. Batman and Superman, laughing about how it's time to ride off into the sunset.

[@niceatsymbolethereyoutube]

@@rvawildcardwolf2843 Ah I just re-read my comment. I was a bit all over the place there. So a depressed hero Batman. I should have phrased that more... as a constant option for a new story with him in. Like the writers can ignore it. And also should ignore it, when this iteration of the bat just wouldn't work with too much overhanging sadness. And I do completely agree that there is no true Batman. He changes with the times, with each overarching story and well everything with a Bat, that has a different title I guess. Oh and I also really enjoy the flexibility he has. Keeps things novel and fresh each time. Always worth giving the weird and new stuff a go. If nothing else it's ripe for mocking in a few years when there is better stuff more to my tastes.

[@mandalorianhunter1]

Honestly this is a friendship that never gets talked about. These characters both have a friendship with Batman, Flash and J'onn, but nobody really talks about these two together. They act as the most mature of the team but can act really immature at times. They have a mutual respect for each other and act casual along with being professional when the time needs.

[@OccuredJakub12]

Man it puts things into perspective how in the 2000s Batman could literally do the "she's standing right behind me, isn't she?" gag unironically and nowadays...

[@MB26535]

it was all in the delivery. RIP Kevin Conroy the GOAT. 🕊️

[@hawkticus_history_corner]

Its the fact that there's no wink at the camera when they do it. Thats what kills the joke nowadays, they won't commit and so wink at the camera going "Isn't this silly guys?!?" instead of just having confidence in their line.

[@inazuma3gou]

"The person has only adjusted to the problem not confronted them" Ouch, that hurt.

[@duwanglover3424]

This episode also hits really hard when Old Bruce calls out to Terry as the DeeDee twins electrocute him to death. Despite his old and grumpy nature, he still and always will care about those he works with

[@doltsbane]

Loved this episode of JLU's inside joke with Jonah Hex. "I'm thinking you folks are time travelers". "Where would you get a crazy idea like that?". "Experience. I've had an interesting life."

[@joetune1945]

Yes. Yes, Jonah has😉.

[@xandermartin2118]

Their friendship was always interesting, since in the beginning of the series they didn’t get along at all, because of Batman’s purposely cold personality. It says a lot that John was clearly able to bypass all of that and gain Bruce’s respect, and genuine friendship. Not many people can talk to him like that and even slightly make fun of him to his face and deep down Bruce enjoyed the friendship even if he was to scared to show it lol

[@rvawildcardwolf2843]

I've always figured Batman respects people who aren't cowed by him (Shows they're a step above the superstitious cowardly lot) but also people who can take orders quickly. So Men with military backgrounds are probably the kind of guys who can get his respect and make it to the point he can forge real relationships with them. Which is funny because for all of Bruce's warrior training, he never served in a conventional military environment, and I don't think he would've done very well there.

[@TheShockVox]

Their interactions were underrated but appreciated by me. Bruce and John talking personal lives is unironically one of my favorite things about this episode and show in general. Always saw John and Bruce in JLU as the anti Bruce and Hal, where I believe these two have more in common than you’d think while Bruce and Hal pretty much dislike each other. John isn’t as stoic as Bruce, but he’s serious and determined. I think Bruce respects people like that. He admires Flash and Superman for being what he feel he can never be, and I think he respects John and J’onn for being closer to what he is. What a great cast.

[@srstriker6420]

Yeah, now imagine if Helena Wayne was in Batman Beyond imagine how past Bruce would react when Wonder Woman was erased knowing that she is not Bruce’s wife and is not the mother, Selina is the mother of his daughter and his future wife just as John found out that Warhawk is his son and Hawkgirl is the mother not Vixen.

[@ghoul5371]

Beautiful analysis

[@hemantkaushik819]

What is the name of the show?

[@ghoul5371]

@@hemantkaushik819 justice league & justice league unlimited

[@hemantkaushik819]

@@ghoul5371 thanks

[@AndreNitroX]

The Chronos arc is my absolute favorite, it’s just perfect to me. That conversation between Bruce and John in the cafeteria is more realistic and human than any of the live action batmen. And I love that Diana was eavesdropping

[@EnerKaizer]

Jon and Bruce work well together in this continuity because they are both more grounded characters at their core, and the writers have more freedom to work with this character constellation (because they both barely interacted in the JLA in the comics back when Jon was the main GL, so there was next to nothing they could draw from). I think this gave them an opportunity to show how normalcy and off-time in the JLA looks. It's like any cafeteria in an office or a school, funnily enough. People talk, and friends will gossip and edge each other a bit, plus, even more importantly, it allowed them to show these characters not just doing heroics. One thing I really missed in the JLA animated series was how we basically only got to see them in their capes, and not what they do in their off-time.

[@lilbozo5459]

Edge eachother?

[@EnerKaizer]

@@lilbozo5459 I thought this was another way of saying they were fooling around with each other? Or did I miss-understand something there? Not a native English speaker here.

[@lilbozo5459]

@@EnerKaizer It is I'm just joking around, "edging" is also a word for a sexual innuendo so it was just funny to see edge used in that context with that in mind.

[@Shift_Salt]

Everything about this episode is why I rather see Beyond as an alternate bad future not THE future of DCEU.

[@MyActualThoughts]

I agree, so many people enjoy it, which is fine, but its still a pretty bleak future. Plus they really did Bruce dirty post Justice League

[@Widogast680]

Honestly this plus I see it as very limiting to the potential of what kind of stories can be told in this setting. And I really dislike the fact that the creators and all the people that made material afterwards basically said The beyond setting is the set future. It's going to happen.

[@srstriker6420]

@@MyActualThoughtsyes because I like to wonder if Helena Wayne was in Batman Beyond era and how young Bruce would react

[@jflexy1344]

​​@@srstriker6420 not possible did you forget she was in the main timeline dating question tho she was not bruce daughter and also bruce and Selina are not romantic partners in this universe

[@Shift_Salt]

@@Widogast680 it's a bit contentious still with some of the fanbase and official team. I believe the original plan for the comics was to show more and more evidence that beyond was indeed an alternate future but some felt if they confirmed that many fans would feel it devalues beyond. Imo it doesn't, it can be it's own thing and still be a valid part of the DCAU.

[@5uper8eedle]

Bruce and John are an underrated duo. I believe that (with the exception of Kyle Rayner) the quality of Green Lanterns lines up with how much Batman respects them.

[@vvaderr]

0 seconds released goes wild

[@ethanedwards7834]

I always loved this little interaction between these two. It was always nice to see just normal interactions between the league.

[@sylascole5254]

It seems like every time I need a video reminding me of something important, Implicitly Pretentious has got me covered.

[@niceatsymbolethereyoutube]

You talk about the 2000's era hero toons so damn calmly. Half of why I listen to nerds talk about the latest novel Anime stuff is to hear the raw enthusiam, thats just everpresent in those corners of youtube. But then combining it with your personal framing here (between a drunk poetry reader and a depressed football fan). Anyway thanks, this rocks.

[@juliagoodwin9510]

Bruce x Diana is my OTP. Also, I love that Wonder Woman managed to sneak up on the _goddamn Batman_ , that's hilarious.

[@InfiniteJexulus]

Yeah. That combined with Batman, the perpetually paranoid and alert detective, being so relaxed and upfront talking with John that he doesn’t notice her until she’s literally standing behind him.

[@tyratooOP]

@7:20 And this! Is a underrated channel. Single handedly explaining so easily in words and details of why we love these characters, their stories, their triumphs, their loses, their dynamics. Was a fan of the early Spiderman videos. I felt so many have a self righteous and stagnant opinion of Spiderman and a complete misunderstanding of MCU Spiderman that it was refreshing to hear someone talk about the character in a way that made me love him all over again. I am not old at all. Only 25. But something about this channel brings back that child like love and whimsy back to the mind when the world at large tries to stomp it all out. Finally, someone is able to put into words of why I love super hero media even if at this itthe most frustrating thing imaginable...I still love it and have since I was a toddler. Thank you for existing as a channel and hope to continue to keep watching

[@comicfan1324]

Batman, is that one friend who may be coming up with countermeasures to take you down if you ever fall under my control but he’ll also sit down and talk with you when you desperately need a shoulder to cry on

[@DAVETHEGRAVE]

Love it I grew up with this Show

[@GuiltlessGear]

the virgin geoff johns: Batman and Green Lantern hate each other the CHAD dwayne mcduffie: Green Lantern is Batman's cool big bro

[@stu729]

I always appreciate the deeper thoughts and work you put into these episodes, but this one really hits. So many people are like Chronos and can't deal with that oppositional information. And yet when we deal with the oppositional information through a trusted friend, actual life change can happen. Excellent episode, excellent lesson, will definitely pay that lesson forward.

[@jordanhall8739]

I feel like Jon has some of the most interesting relationships with other characters in JL and JLU.

[@strikermodel]

Putting a man smack dab in the impact point of the meteor that killed the dinosaurs is a flex

[@courtjester7778]

I didn’t know I was a superhero fan until I started watching your videos. Thanks for helping me find out. I hope the wackness of life doesn’t get too bad.

[@josephadorno92]

Amazing all the hidden depths we got from this show; the comics remain stuck in a loop.

[@ericadventures5045]

This show has enough character relationships to create a talk show

[@afriendlycampfire260]

I tought i lost yoir channel, I wasnt subscribed and i didnt memorize you channel name so i thought i could never watch you videos again But then i saw this video and i remembered your content so i clicked And then i heard "something that was changing your mind" and i was so happy

[@MadameTamma]

Comparing GL and Batman's relationships with the women in their lives to the villain's relationship to the woman in his life is an interesting angle to take. The heroes drag their feet going after the women they care about while we can surmise that Chronos likely jumped too fast into a marriage with his wife, likely thinking she'd be the only one who'd have him. He acts very hasty so it's an easy bet that that's what happened. I suppose the message would be somewhere in the middle. Don't rush, but don't deny yourself the future you'd want either. Just allow things to take their course naturally.

[@hawkticus_history_corner]

I am 100% a WonderBat Shipper, especially when its Sassy Diana, so that lunchroom scene is *exactly* what I want. *HOOK IT UP TO MY VEINS!*

[@drecolizo1]

I absolutely loved the friendship Bruce and John had. It was so nice to see Bruce actually open up to. I do feel as if he and Diana would've gotten together with John being right there supporting it if the show ran longer.

[@jacksfacts20]

The quote about defensiveness was so insightful holy crap

[@CorbCorbin]

He pulls a MK fatality on that dude.

[@dentions_]

man i love your videos they're so good

[@voodoowar]

Love your videos they always keep me interested and this was a good short one that I like good job keep up the great work dude

[@antonioarrendol2655]

THEY ARE AN UNDERRATED DUO

[@Throne930]

Your videos are always Mellifluo

[@skyrogue1977]

So when the alarm goes off in the Watchtower, why does no one else aside from three people react? Also, Diana, Bruce and John just jump into a portal without a clue of where it could lead.

[@alexandercolic405]

Hope all is well with the personal stuff sir. Really enjoy your work.

[@crimsonninja6995]

I noticed that your editing is getting better

[@bebruening6098]

Definitely one of my favorite animated episodes of any series

[@robgwar]

Great video keep it up 👍

[@Z.200]

Two of the best episodes in the series

[@jamesspencer3016]

It's like he got to talk. To John as a whole person not split by the Bruce/Batman stuff. John may have a ability to relate to him in a way most cant since a part of both their power is based on the gears thats grinding in their heads, ones got tons of money and the other a fancy ring, other than that they are just normal people. But they are 2 men with very strong situational awareness and mindfulness, situational awareness and mindfulness are both great offensive and defensive abilities.

[@_thomas1031]

Always enjoy dynamics between male characters that are doing there best to improve together👏

[@jamilp2869]

Yes sir

[@yellowmattereyecusta]

I always enjoy the storyboards we’re clearly misunderstood so everyone is drinking glasses of milk except in closeups, where they’re thermos mug things with white bodies and grey rims.

[@papertroll1876]

What a great video, is all of your stuff this good?

[@takenname8053]

Underrated friends

[@AokoKalajian]

Allways love your videos. I know your more of a dc guy but i realy hope you do a video on the new X mem 97 the story was realy good and would love to see what you think about it

[@mxtra22]

JLU is such a goated show. I don’t think they dropped the ball on a single character

[@Shift_Salt]

Bruce and John at the office

[@justblue974]

Nice

[@Gallalad1]

Honestly I kinda wish in film we went back to true paragon heroes and heroines. I think the world needs some more true positive media

[@commonsense5199]

6:16 Wait until you read the DCAU/ Earth 12 comic. Cough Justice Lord cough. Zod.

[@jflexy1344]

bruce tim has already stated those comics are not canon to dcau

[@YudoTheHex]

OUCH, CLICKING HURT BRAIN

[@Ch00choh]

Imagine having lunch with Bruce

[@tylerferguson3193]

Hope you're having a good day

[@dimsumboy22]

Hi. His name is not static shock. It’s just static.

[@Rom7-]

Question how was Wonder Woman wipe from existence that’s one of the moments I remember the most from this episode and the series in general but I forgot what lead up to it?

[@victorwonder]

IIRC, Batman's thoughts about Diana's disappearance was, she either wasn't born or never left her island. I think it was a random occurrence due to the space-time continuum disruptions caused by Chronos' recklessness. Don't think it was explicitly explained why she vanished. Time was all screwy and random changes were happening - even at one point John Stewart was temporarily replaced by Hal Jordan as the current Green Lantern Leaguer 😂

[@TAJIG]

why do you change the thumbnail after upload and sometimes the title…?

[@cedrickkamagtey7974]

3:48 how’s that for self aware

[@KCKingdomCreateGreatTrekAgain]

I always felt bad for the guy who became Cronos because maybe if his wife wasn’t such a B***h he wouldn’t have gone bad. Up until he got mad and really started to steal he wasn’t taking anything that would disrupt time but were things he wanted that were going to be destroyed or discarded.

[@ceougin20]

Quizás… quizás quizás -Disturbia (2007)

[@d3ltazer0judgement]

Babe, wake up, another implicitly pretentious video dropped

[@Bradman1978]

Dude time travels over and over to collect stuff and get rich. When he should have just stopped himself from marrying the woman who hates you.

[@biguy617]

John decides to stay with Vixen regardless.i think John should breakup with Vixen or Vixen should leave him. She knows John still loves Hawkgirl.

[@tylerbertram7065]

I really wished they resolved that plot point

[@radioraheem9820]

He said himself he wouldn't be fate's puppet. He loves Hawkwoman but also cares for Vixen.

[@biguy617]

@@radioraheem9820 yes but chances are it won’t last. Eventually it will break up.

[@radioraheem9820]

@@biguy617 And if they do, they'll do so naturally. Not because it's "supposed" to happen from seeing a possible future.

[@srstriker6420]

@@biguy617not imagine if Helena Wayne was in Batman Beyond that would go through the same thing with John as Diana is not the mother but Selina is the mother of his daughter and future wife

[@popeye697]

I hate being this guy, but his name is Static, not Static Shock. That's just the name of the show

[@LoganBradbury-yt1lj]

Pee pee

[@rairaion2612]

Thanks man

[@LoganBradbury-yt1lj]

@@rairaion2612 no problem 😉

[@stefansauvageonwhat-a-twis1369]

Another cool video (1:45 pls dont use psychopath like that its actual people and doesnt just mean evil lol) and perhaps