Why Centre is against legalising queer marriage

[@sahidakhtarahmed]

One of the best decisions taken by the Indian Judicial System was to implement Live court hearings . Should've been implemented a long time ago but better late than never . Helps show the dire process that goes into implementing a law . And gives us a perspective what went on and the reasons why some conditions are placed in some laws. Stops us from just jumping into conclusions why the law is wrong or right or what it shouldve been.

[@itsmainakmukherjee]

Blessings of Corona.😃

[@samananda8569]

Can you please post the link for the full hearing.

[@nikeshmali8506]

court does not implement law, it interprets law and direct gov to enforce it.

[@yatripatel8119]

??? Suppose 2 ppl of same sex wanna marry but cant (in india). u live to gether all happy after 10 years 20 years you both get old together and are living happily both of ur parents are no more and suddenly one of u gets sick or goes in a car accident. Ur partner dosent have any right on u according to the legal system and dont have any relation between u. But then I also understand that India isnt ready precisely the majority pf ppl arent maybe india after 10 years is ready to accept this

[@yatripatel8119]

@@gamerboy7820 👍

[@makanimemafia9021]

For the first time I am impressed by the Indian Judiciary. They are discussing the matter in depth. Irrespective of the conclusion, everyone should be proud at the independence of our Indian judiciary! I hope a win-win arises.

[@Vivi-Core]

CHUP

[@105madhumithabalamurugan6]

Goodness no! Being impressed with the judiciary for discussing a matter in depth is like being impressed with the fan blades turning when you flip the switch. It's what it was MADE TO DO! This guy's argument is that a section of society should be denied their basic rights because it's inconvenient for them to rewrite the laws. Trust me, we have a long, long way to go.

[@anirudh2704]

Crores of cases pending and this is hopeless judiciary for u

[@doit2810]

​@@anirudh2704 this is the government's responsibility actually but they're avoiding it so what should we do!?

[@sakshipal60754]

@@doit2810 since when Indian government started dispensing Judicial cases?

[@zigzag8338]

I don't think these are arguments against same sex marriage explicitly but they just highlight the work that needs to be done on our legal system to actually integrate same sex marriage better.

[@YashVardhanGhildiyal]

Ohh ya thats a really good point

[@abhilash9918]

Yeah this is the bigger issue here. Millions of cases pending across judiciary aren't important we should first solve this issue. This is nothing but virtue signalling bullsht to hide the rot in judiciary.

[@abhisheknarayana1224]

Basically no one wants to provide law for your sexual orientation.

[@parijatsingh5858]

​​@@abhisheknarayana1224it's not providing laws for someone else's sexual orientation, it's changing rigid and obsolete laws to ones that fit the needs of today's time and can be fair for a large, more inclusive population.

[@abhisheknarayana1224]

@Parijat Singh You have no idea, what's coming after same sex marriage legalise, just look at what's happening in west!! We don't want those things to happen in India, India must focus on poverty and employment, not such futile issues, let me guess you're the from that community who can not describe what a women is? Tell me what is a women?

[@Rhiogh8462]

As far as I get it, these are not arguments to not allow same sex marriages but rather shortcomings of the present system built mainly for the binary community. When we are deciding to generalise the law, every other needs to be generalized as well..which, shouldn't be the reason to stop generalization in the first place.

[@abiofficial-ws7pn]

Excellent. This is EXACTLY what I thought, too. What the SG is pointing out are the wordings that have been put in with the binary systems in mind

[@rohanvats9982]

If I am being honest with you... Ancient Hindu Texts have the reference of Homosexuality in them and if they had no problem with it at that age or time, I think we should neither. But yes, the problems listed by the SG definitely makes sense. I know your argument about reforming the current system sounds logical but it isn't factually accurate. The LGBTQ community fails to determine their gender. In the Indian Law their are certain privileges given to both the genders respectively. Now, how to determine these things? Their can't be two parallel laws for the two of them because if so, then what if someone decides to identify themselves as LGBTQ in between their trail? So, my point is... What problem doesn't have a solution? But not every solution is feasible.

[@bait5257]

​@@rohanvats9982your argument is that years ago people didn't have problem with something so we shouldn't have problem with it too? That's so stupid

[@GobiSubramaniam]

@@rohanvats9982 - Ancient Hindu text does not refers to Hindu religious texts. Hindu society in the past had a lot of sub-groups living together which did not follow Hinduism - which included Buddhism and Jainism. A lot of their arguments are not accordance to Hindu beliefs and therefore, should not be added as a "Hindu text" in general.

[@moreadisaurus]

​@@rohanvats9982 can you please link me to some ancient Hindu texts mentioning homosexuality as you clearly remember them in the back of your mind.

[@SM-dm8oo]

Forget about same sex marriage, I want them to ban cousins and uncle-niece marriages. They are creating genetically disadvantaged children and deaths among them while they have the ability to stop it. It's also disgusting how your own family has the ability to have carnal desires on you. And also how ridiculous that is when a maternal cousin is a potential partner but a paternal cousin is a brother/sister. The same goes with uncles.

[@Axolotl00x]

where is it practiced

[@Berries_11]

See if u r Targetting muslims , as a Muslim my self .. There r no uncle and niece marriage here ( by no I mean it's very rare and uncommon ) And about cousin marriage it's usually between 2nd cousins or 3rd cousins they r Usually not direct cousins So the cases r already very rare if u talk about direct cousins and very very rare about uncle and niece Probably the same as other communities

[@escanor3699]

@@Berries_11how can you even marry your 2nd cousin lol That’s literally your sister You guys are bit disgusting

[@SM-dm8oo]

@@Berries_11 I don't which part of the world you're from, but from where I come from, uncle-niece and 1st cousin marriages are very common. And no, I didn't target Muslims. I was targeting Hindus who do that and also people from other religions who do that.

[@Iamhere829]

@@Berries_11why did you assume they were targeting Muslims? Maybe if it quacks , it is a duck😂😂

[@sharaths2294]

It's my first time seeing how all laws are interlinked and breaking one law can cause chain reaction leading to system breakdown...

[@rakada]

That means this is an issue of "system of marriage" on which the whole"family system" of India stands. Obviously it's not an easy decision to make.

[@eliavesikula2870]

Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations7 for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations8 with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts[9] with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error” (Romans 1:25- 27). Paul is referring to both male homosexuality and lesbianism.

[@yatindrapabbati6878]

I am in support of same sex marriages but these questions are absolutely valid...we need to fix all of these issues before arriving at any new conclusion

[@sujatanaik3848]

... y to jump in it , are all the next generations gotta be gays. ?

[@rain_jen257]

yes

[@TSCHANNELSHORTS]

So true

[@Gaurav90065]

Support of mental illness

[@somnathshaktikumar4363]

Disgusting!!!

[@TheYoudhruv]

This is how the country should operate !! Proud of these guys !!

[@raja.kohinoor]

keep crying when we get our marriage rights very soon

[@raghuvamsi9070]

Except for the Incest thing, every other argument seems fair. If CJI thinks there is no concept of absolute biological men and women, he should give the parameters on how to decide who is the man and woman in all other acts of domestic violence, dowry, and rape. If a man who raped a woman doesn't identify himself as a man, what should be the deciding factor to consider him a man. CJI knows how messed up this gets, so he left it to the parliament. For a small minority of the population, the court cannot throw the entire women under the bus.

[@Hithere-qj1wj]

Then change the definition of rape already! Why is it a notion that men are only capable of committing rape??

[@trishitasaikia1163]

Boy are you kidding me? Only a man can rape? No sir. A woman can rape too. Have you not seen criminal cases of father sexually assaulting their sons or mother doing the same to their daughters. Rape is wrong, whether done by a man or woman

[@defaultuser9423]

This is the route to slippery slope. Vested interest want to see this through to destroy society as we know it.

[@DarkMasterEdits-Mashups]

What you want to say i don't understand but inc**t is is worst If it is allowed then human meat should be allowed

[@danyalparacha1761]

Hahaha

[@Indian-at-heart]

I'm surprised by the controversial news presented in this video. It challenges the traditional concept of marriage, and it's interesting to see how our society is evolving. The lawyer showcased in the video plays a crucial role in making our society more livable. Thanks for sharing this thought-provoking content.

[@jeffreybablu]

The Judicial system needs to have more live court hearings, and these hearings must be more widely available to the people just to see how backward the thinking of our top solicitors is at the moment.

[@notkendallll]

The points are valid but there are actual ways to solve the problem and grant LGBTQ+ people same equal rights, there is a solution but centre needs to have an intent to solve the problem

[@shashanksahu3558]

What's your solution??

[@sneha-qn4jn]

Dialogue leads to solution. And they are having a dialogue

[@GobiSubramaniam]

There is no problem to solve. Only problem here are the ones imagined by LGBT people and wasting court time with it.

[@khwairakpamkhoimu4021]

So why don't you bring up the solution??

[@teampunk1356]

Then why don't you argue in front of all the judges of the supreme court and give out a "solution"? Its very easy to be a keyboard warrior or an armchair general. Simply "importing" western laws doesn't work.

[@user-bw8yn3zr1s]

In India, where we are so hellbound about marriages happening within the same caste only, if we go up along the generation tree, we are bound to find most of the married couples to be blood relatives by the way. And somehow that is still okay with people.

[@rishikabharti1789]

Saudi ka history padhte the kya bhai

[@sakshampandey3193]

@@rishikabharti1789 😂😂😂

[@sakshampandey3193]

Little knowledge is dangerous my friend, give a try on reading the concept of Gotra 👍

[@wutangmuslin]

@@sakshampandey3193 marrying outside your gotra has worked till now. But after say, a few hundred generations, the effects of homogenisation will start to show. Because gotra doesn't take maternal inheritance into account. Eventually, one would have to mate outside their caste gene pool, to reduce the incidence of certain genetic disorders

[@gamercontinent4001]

@@wutangmuslin very nuanced!!

[@ramnathpaip]

the thing what people need to understand is Marriage is not just love rather a legal contract, thats why we need these debates... else no one is stopping one from having a livein relationship

[@SamratKiranjeet]

By definition - In US, marriage is legal contract. In India, Marriage is sacred and a union of man and a woman, and not a legal contract. So, LGBTQANDHFJXSJSKAK doesn't understand that

[@perseusvlasov367]

​@@SamratKiranjeet the definition can be changed then.

[@deadmeatbones6742]

​@@SamratKiranjeet sadly in India, judicially the purpose of marriage is clearly defined as for the purpose of reproduction. This is why infertility can amount to divorce. So the problem lies in the definition of marriage itself in the judiciary.

[@ELROD.1_0_1]

​@@perseusvlasov367 They are playing with the definitions, that's why west and the Lqbtq + doesn't even know 'What is actually a women'.

[@ELROD.1_0_1]

​​@@deadmeatbones6742 Sadly in India, the people who doesn't know the definition of marriage is 'the young fellas, especially the educated and wealthy ones' just look the statistics. who has the most divorce rate? Is it among young couples or elderly couples? Is it among well educated- fully occupied couples or among poor farmers?. Fact is that elder people know what is marriage and the purpose of marriage. And that's exactly why the west has more divorce rate than Indians. Back in the days India has below 10 rate for divorce. Now what is the situation. Why? People are more attracted to money, sex and wealth not love, care, humility and respect. Our father and mother have that, but I'm afraid what is the fate of next generation. So its clearly not the problem of definition, its the mentally of people who is attracted to western culture and 'Ultimate freedom' which will only endup in more orphan kids and destroyed families.

[@therealgrimreaper68]

Incest and attraction to same sex are not the same thing, even if brothers wanted to have sex it would be weird. A step child should also have same right as biological child if the step parent legally adopts the child. An adopted child has the same rights to property as a biological child. Just extend the same domicile for husbands as well and call it spouse instead of 'wife'. Extend the same sucession acts to the husband as well and just apply the widowers/ widow for the gay/ lesbian couple.

[@therealgrimreaper68]

@Windless Flame People wouldn't find sex pleasurable then, by that logic all contraceptions should be banned and that has terrible consequences. And people who are infertile or sterile should be banned from having sex. Based on how same sex couples are being treated, no one would choose to be attracted to the same sex.

[@therealgrimreaper68]

@Windless Flame sex just isn't the same as driving a car

[@mohitanand1844]

@@therealgrimreaper68 if you can't understand a simple analogy ,why are you even debating here ??

[@SyedMubashshirHasan]

@Windless Flame indeed , ur truthful

[@therealgrimreaper68]

@Windless Flame you have legs, don't use cars and walk everywhere otherwise you are abusing the purpose of legs. You use your brain and think about it. Why would someone willingly choose to be homosexual based on how badly you treat them? They lose a lot and gain nothing.

[@Rohan_Kumar___]

I fear the day when there will be demands of incest marriage recognition saying " Love is Love" because what was considered a sin yesterday is a reality today. You never know what will come up after this.

[@byebyedislikecount939]

I fear the day when people will stop using the heads for once and not actually study about the reality. Incest is not the same as same sex marriage and gay relations were never a sin. They were just not recognised legally before.

[@Rohan_Kumar___]

@@byebyedislikecount939 I never said it was a sin. I said it was CONSIDERED a sin just like today people consider incest as sin. My question is what will you do when they demand incest marriage rights in future?

[@byebyedislikecount939]

@@Rohan_Kumar___ Incest is not a sexuality. You are not attracted to your sibling due to ur sexuality, you have the choice to like anyone from the sex or opposite sex depending on your sexuality. Gay people are only attracted to same sex, and hence they don't have the choice to like opposite sex.

[@Vivi-Core]

INCEST INCEST INCEST BRO LET THEM WIN FIRST WHY DO U WANT INCEST RIGHTS SO MUCH

[@varunemani]

Yes this feels like very logical and possible issue. Other worst things in future to consider - What is stopping People from posing as fake gay's and try to adopt a girl child or get close to women ('Desi girl' scenario) for achieving various devious goals ranging from illegal housing, faking to get jobs positions, cheating and or sex abuse. Their pretext will be 'Oh but we are legally proven gay, how we can impregnate or have affair with a girl or woman impossible.. rubbish!'

[@yourmindisyourchild4967]

I don't know the technicalities of this sensitive matter but I feel that just by mere inconveniences predicted to happen in our laws we can't curtail the basic right of choosing one's life partner. There will always be a way of modifying the laws but there can't be any compensation for robbing someone's freedom to love and live the way they want.

[@Rohansrockers]

Which is why one should elect the right people and not expect the judiciary to do their job

[@GokulHardy7]

Do you support incest?

[@truthlight6435]

We live in a nation which sti upholds religious law. And you are talking about free civil liberties. How senseless you have to be. And anyway it is India we are talking about not west. Marriage is a sacred institution, not time pass. Recently people have started identifying thselves as Disabled. You must check Google. If tomorrow I say I identify as woman and provide me with same consession and priveledges that are provided to women then how would you deal with that. There no turning around such situation. It's better to keep things how they are until society has found equality in real terms or alteast when social fiber had deteriorated like it's in west

[@Seriouslyfunny1]

It's not mere inconvenience. It's a huge inconvenience. Without taking care of all the major issues and possible legal problems, one cannot go right ahead and legalize same sex marriage.

[@yourmindisyourchild4967]

@@truthlight6435 All concerns aside, for a second, can we please put ourselves in one of such situations where we are denied the right to be with the person we love and are forced to either be with someone we can't love or stay alone the entire life. Every new idea needs time and effort to be implemented. We can't sit in fear that it will disrupt the existing order. Infact it will make our laws more inclusive, widen their scope, plug its loopholes and most importantly it will reduce the exploitation of people who are different than normal. We as human beings have a tendency to be afraid of those who are different from us but the real maturity lies in accepting those differences and make things work for the greater good of everyone. Let this be a good start from our side. Let's give this idea a chance and then see what miracles it creates in the lives of thousands that are struggling for basic rights. The very idea of electricity, trains and infact internet was resisted on the mere belief that it will disrupt the contemporary order. They were just technological ideas. Whereas this is a system made by nature. If it was against nature then it wouldn't have existed. So let's welcome this change with open arms and open minds!

[@kg4642]

A few things India can take into account - legalizing conjugal relationships, live-in relationships for LGBTQ, looking at which elements from Western nations can be implemented within the Indian societal framework. Sexual act without consent remains a punishable crime regardless of the genders of the people. Same can be done for Leading Partner and Second Partner. There were times when single women couldn’t adopt, people had to fight for it. We are undergoing a big change, india you can do a good job. There are a whole bunch of people waiting to live a free life in India and come out of closets, especially in Tier 2 and Tier 3 towns.

[@khrawbryan]

Can you define LBGTQ before making such statements? Define them and tell me what is this.

[@athulsekhar9675]

​​@@khrawbryan mental disorders .. *in simply words

[@azraelinium1012]

You want us to adapt elements from the western nations? So you want to bring the identity crisis here where anyone can identify as whatever they please regardless of their biological sex? That will bring all sorts of problems and issues here

[@merasoul6520]

@@azraelinium1012 i identify as a television.

[@pradnyakamble3958]

​​@@azraelinium1012 rightly said. Ppl are going crazy over there 😅 Who has time to entertain their delusion. Ps. Am not against same sex marriage.

[@Ducktility]

Best compromise is to have a civil agreement act which is a kind of a special marriage act. Should give away most rights in that, except some.

[@sohamdate]

This isn't homophobic, they are just being rational

[@bunderify]

Comparing being gay to sleeping with your sister is in fact homophobic.

[@Gaurav-oi9yb]

Totally impressed with questions against judiciary ❤

[@OreoChocoCreame]

these questions are merely against the judiciary, rather an discussion about what will be obsolete with illegalizing same sex marriage

[@BAMEL1311]

Before

[@KanhaiyaKumar-iu5du]

That very man speaks for the humanity my friend. We better be ded if that gets legalised

[@hrithikraj209]

This has become a war between wokes and sensible persons.

[@lady5049]

Can you explain?

[@athulsekhar9675]

​@@lady5049 woke/ wokism is the act of normalising disorders and fetishes and pushing it to everyone and compelling everyone to follow and support all those stupidity.. Wokism has severe negative impact on the society and could destroy the balance of the whole mankind..

[@user-te4gg7ri3j]

@@lady5049 woke is a mixture of postmordernity and moral relativism . But this thing which is discussed particularly has western flavour.

[@chatifyyy]

Idk why so many people are blatantly supporting it ? They are even portraying Hindu gods as transgender. Shame on these degenerates

[@aliasuser_]

queer people have existed since ages in India. These are not some western ideologies. These are real people. Homophobia, however, is most definitely a western ideology.

[@aiswaryap1944]

So we change these laws to include diversity.. Why wud he even bring incest into this topic🤦‍♀️

[@afreenkhan1470]

Because the next thing these individuals would demand will be incest. They will say the same thing “my individual freedom my sexual orientation”

[@NOT_ain]

It’s logic bruh…! They scream LOVE IS LOVE so by their belief incest is also acceptable

[@stormgg4052]

Yea that can be wt if brothers marry each other 😂

[@sneha8732]

Because that's the truth. Its not just him who thought about it. I hv been thinking the same for long too. Incest relationships today are in the same position in society that once gay relationship did! If we give gay rights today, tomorrow incest couples wud stand up too because they also exist and suffer

[@daauh8847]

​​@@sneha8732 is incest really present in our Indian Society ?? .. I mean Real siblings from same mother 🙄

[@sweetychoubey3875]

I just couldn't fail to notice Sai Deepak at the back 😅

[@vukkumsp]

Very Understandable... We already have lot of loop holes in our law and now this makes even worse. So, they need to change all laws accordingly

[@raghav5903]

Based. Chad SG Mehta, single-handedly destroyed those in favour of SSM. CJI was stumped. These arguments ensured that this bench doesn't give judgment in favour of SSM

[@Kris-br3nz]

No arguments lol all he did was mental gymnastics.. There is no argument against same sex marriage that's why it's already legal in soo many countries

[@raghav5903]

@@Kris-br3nz there can be arguments against everything. Also its illegal in more countries than legal

[@Kris-br3nz]

@@raghav5903 it's illegal in most third world countries.. Pretty sure we aren't aiming to be like them lol

[@Kris-br3nz]

@@raghav5903 what Argument did u find of him appealing lol.. All he did was mental gymnastics

[@IIBase]

@@Kris-br3nz how many countries brother ? Few "free" countries who bomb countries to liberate them from themselves ?

[@manbat1890]

please dont legalise it, look at the hell which has broken loose in the west due to the lgbt being more accepted

[@calfjddogthebacon7109]

Somehow, I get the vibe that this dude is tryna support legalisation of SSM and just stating the problems with our current laws that might arise. Legalisation of SSM will require a massive change in our constitution. And frankly speaking, such a change will take quite some time and would be more suitable in a time where we would have less problematic issues to deal with

[@sujatanaik3848]

Next time evolution in marriage is legality marriage with an animal...

[@brown_bread_]

Zoopilia is legal in India as of 1st July 2024

[@fnestbold]

Haha that already happens in hindu religion😂😂😂

[@Thecannibalfrombeyond]

@@fnestbold like abdul with goat?

[@fnestbold]

@@Thecannibalfrombeyond shit don't take offense bro, I'm hindu myself but i just don't believe in senseless things, like marrying peepal or a dog, etc. Oh wait never mind, if someone named "cannib@l from beyond" takes offense after hearing the reality, idgaf.

[@Aditi-us4bl]

A dangerous statement we often hear these days "I identify as a man or a woman" and then one can use the loopholes in the system to bend the rules.

[@aliasuser_]

totally not happening

[@anujthapa2346]

Totally not happening? What about the MAN who identified as a woman and went to a female prison and S.A many women and got them pregnant

[@aliasuser_]

@@anujthapa2346 Who are you talking about exactly? if you're talking about Demi Minor, both instances were consensual sex.

[@anjaneytripathi69]

i remember reading about this father in the US identifying as a women to win a court case for child custody then theres the several other issues like trans women (geneticall males) participating in womens sports competitions etc

[@aliasuser_]

@babum karam let me tell you that right to self determination for gender is already legal in India... There's no chaos and loopholes that have happened so far...

[@papakimbetakim4718]

Bcz what Americans are facing as society we also have to ho through.

[@Jivi_Galaxy]

Yess,

[@kandi1865]

But if we already know that what we have to face, So why we pass it and allow LGBTQ marriage....

[@sudhakar7889]

That's different thing. To be identifying with something which they aren't is different to the actual gay people. Two different things you're talking about.

[@protyaychakraborty4108]

The Americans are make us going through it in the garb of liberty

[@TheB657]

*This is the issue of the colonized thought process. We have to bring back Ancient customs and traditions with the public being fully educated on all these topics.* Our culture and civilization has been scientific so far. If not for personal opinions and perspectives at least the baseline fundamental truth of genetic health among humans must be maintained. Those countries whom have allowed same sex marriage just observe them in five to six decades..... this artificial fertilization by three partners, two same sex partners etc. is going to lead to a whole another level of trouble causing humans to degenerate. It won't be the same humanity we have seen, interacted with and experienced till now. Man is going against natural rhythm and processes that has had a complex evolutionary pattern by itself. You go against it - you cause the whole world to become Hell. These countries will have LGBTQs in higher nos. than normal heterosexual couples leading to few healthy humans vs. millions with unhealthy genetics (1:2 ratio). These so called "developed" countries are killing humanity.

[@sagarpatel2589]

Sai sir waiting for his chance to argue 🔥🔥🔥

[@a_m4608]

Im waiting for his sledgehammer blows.

[@lahsunsingh2005]

J sai is meanwhile watching ben shapiro videos to get warmed up. Master information manipulator that guy..

[@lahsunsingh2005]

@PDM i am actually praising him..politics and law is about manipulating information anyway

[@lahsunsingh2005]

@PDM he became famous via sabrimala by asking to treat deity ayappan as a physical person and protesting against cracker burning ban . Both these cases showed his way of words and pseudo-mordenist approach to argue in favour of customs that lack any value in the mordern world. Treating ayappan as a physical person is the violation of several beliefs in the hindu system which state that idols are representaion of gods and god itself is formless and not necessarily a human. The second case of Diwali he argued that crackers are burned as a way to show spirits the lighted path to heaven or whatever and it is a custom that should be respected. I agree that lightning has a special significance but there is no mention in vedas about crackers , the lighted path you provide via diya and candles. But he speaks in fast english sentences and provides pseudo logic for all his assertions just like Ben Shapiro. And most of the times he is like - if other religions do it , why we should not? So he doesn't provide solutions, he thrives on conflict and he is obsessed with pandering to his bhakt base and inciting them.

[@nikhilspeaking]

His position on NRC - "having a register of citizens is a fundamental function of the state" and therefore essential. This, when some Indian states have a 40% birth and death registration system after trying to improve it for a decade and can't even conduct the census.

[@azharmehmood7768]

In this particular case centre is right. If this marriage will be recognised then the whole social structure will suffer

[@kmasif164]

Absolutely, as per 2019 research there is no gay gene.. Hence sexuality is totally dependent on environmental factors after a child is born.. If homosexuality is legalized and promoted in a society we will have more homosexuals in next generations. Disrupting the societal structure by giving emotional arguments of individual freedom and choice is total madness. Human stupidity has no limits 😂

[@omnamahshivaya7894]

Abdul in many cases govt is right and abduls are wrong But because of your religion you are against

[@kmasif164]

@@omnamahshivaya7894 No government of humans on this petty little planet can be superior to the creator of this universe

[@kmasif164]

@Robert Junior No argument here has been presented based on religion. If you have better arguments please present and enlighten us. Personal attacks is no argument

[@omnamahshivaya7894]

@@kmasif164 so you support hindutva??

[@virajpatel229]

@Brut India: Stop misleading your audience with your WRONG TITLES.

[@anishbhanushali]

Rather than solving a SSM question , People should think about making the laws around marriage gender neutral which will automatically solve the SSM and would a phenomenal step towards equality.

[@somnathshaktikumar4363]

They don't deserve such equality.....I don't want my nation to become like western nation culture....u guys really don't have any idea how this will affect our future generation......

[@kirikiri44695]

I have a better idea . Build asylums for those things

[@apolloismydad]

yes, exactly!

[@BeanOnTheFlipside]

​@@kirikiri44695cheeky uncivilised fella aren't you

[@prarthana7365]

@@kirikiri44695 you mean for things like you? for sure.

[@aum8136]

Visit any of the family courts or divorce lawyers these days and check out the number of divorces happening in the straight couple marriages. If people are happy and are not harming other humans what's wrong in giving them their rights. Thinking beyond sex is important. There are so many orphans without parents. Legalization of these marriages will give them the right to adopt those orphans who deserve a better life. What is the count of straight couples who cannot conceive adopting?

[@varunemani]

@Windless Flame The issue is purpose. Yes What is really the purpose for same sex marriage?.. Did society pressure two same sex induviduals to be married in India?? no that rule is pressured only on different sex people.. because else they are seen as illicit relations. So what is the problem if there is no registered marriage certificate in case of same sex couples??

[@varunemani]

@Windless Flame Ya sure blah.. blah.. Have you just made absolutely like 'ZERO' sense with your reply to a simple question? Anyway good luck to you too "O' My friend" getting a life i guess!! Lol..

[@varunemani]

The issue is purpose. Yes What is really the purpose for same sex marriage?.. Did society pressure two same sex induviduals to be married in India?? no that rule is pressured only on different sex people.. because else they are seen as illicit relations. So what is the problem if there is no registered marriage certificate in case of same sex couples??

[@trishitasaikia1163]

​@@_Windless_Flame the purpose of sex could be procreation, but is sex the only purpose of life? If no, then what else than to find love and solace in someone else? Sex is just the biochemical hormonal reaction that brings two people together. It's not necessary that they have the sex. Hence gay people can love whoever they want. Homosexuality is not just having sex with the same gender, it's finding love and purpose in the same gender too.

[@trishitasaikia1163]

@@_Windless_Flame so murdering infertile people is not a crime I guess, considering they are not fulfilling the purpose of life?

[@user-kv2bs1bk5d]

Tell me your CJI is woke without telling me he is woke🤷🏽‍♂️

[@thenone6945]

L comment

[@Yashsinghal1804]

He has spent around 6-7 years in Britain So that's self explanatory

[@goodthoughts4139]

J Sai Deepak is there in the bench. 😊😊. This is the best argument and discussion done in court. There will be a lot of change in culture an we indians cannot accept that

[@soumyadeepsengupta9797]

He is a fool

[@abhi_25246]

J sai deepak always talks illogically, and gay people have been existing since mahabharatha. J sai deepak is no one to deny two people from loving and staying with each other

[@dalitnahipehlehinduhu6569]

​@@abhi_25246 ohh illogically 😢 ..

[@goodthoughts4139]

@@abhi_25246 ok so the logical thinga to do is ask the male child in childhood whether he feels like girl or boy if wants to transition then do it before being 16 years old using hormnal therapy in the end the male child feels he did a mistake and de transitions is this logical for you. Going through numerous pain since childhood.

[@cherry_bomb223]

@@abhi_25246 I agree on that

[@dualapeepa7719]

About this incest thing, same sex couples were never considered a sin in India before the British raj and Christianity made it into a sin. How can being gay be a sin? There are plenty of gay animals in nature, it is not unnatural. What is unnatural is this hate for people who love differently. Grant them their rights.

[@StarBoy-ps1xc]

Bro what , how ignorant you can be of the Indian history , bet you can't even back your saying by legit sources ✋️, and also for your kind info before the British most of India was ruled by the Mughals and guess what religion they followed ; Islam and in Islam it is clearly sinful for even having the thought of same sex marriage 😂 , so next time atleast try to do your homework kiddo🤓🤓

[@priyankakumarisingh4511]

I don't why it is important to discuss who who will be husband and who will be wife. Just call them partners and make laws same for both there will be no problem.

[@dishuuu112]

Exactly what I was thinking...they should be the one deciding their relationship dynamics and are not at all required to announce to the world saying who is the husband and who is the wife in the relationship. Going by default, lesbians would be known as wives and gays would be known as husbands...as simple as that.

[@vartika8176]

All the govt documents and legal documents require basic things like husband name /wife name. Also most of the documents only accept father's signature . What are the lesbian couple going to do then. There will be many changes in many proceedings and documents in order to legalise same sex marriage which has to be discussed.

[@sonnynenghoi9372]

@BrutIndia ..Hi Brut India, Im sorry that im gonna have to go off topic, But Can u Please please Cover the Communal Violence happening in Manipur, Churches, Lands, Homes are burnt down and people are killed and all that started in response to a peaceful unarmed Tribal Rally which was only held against the Govt. And not against another community....please help us People are dying in Manipur😭😭🙏🙏🙏

[@Vizorfam]

Then next time elect kejriwal as your cm

[@sonnynenghoi9372]

@@Vizorfam easy for you to just say that, Bcus youre not the one dying, your house is not burnt, your people are not fleeing their rightly owned properties and lands. Be realistic, If Kejriwal was there, We would have surely Voted

[@SubhraneelChowdhury]

hey, I think brut is probably looking into this, and hopefully would be sharing a video regarding this issue! I hope everything become alright in Manipur, as we speak!!

[@SubhraneelChowdhury]

@@Vizorfam why you have to say nonsense when you dont know whats happening at all?

[@jagriti5163]

Let Jesus save them. Why are you wailing.

[@reshmastadas1701]

Setup a committee create a draft for correction and make parliament vote on it. How hard is that?

[@Nope2810]

Is that person behind the person who is speaking is J Sai Deepak??

[@MyRinto]

Recently in kerala ,one man was transformed to a girl and girl transformed to a boy , both got married ,after a few weeks , the girl wgo transformed to a boy , committed suicide ,because of herd partner arrogant life , whethere these people transformed to the real form abide in thier soul. When right time comes up he or she shows real character.same sex marriage should not be leagalise . The media always give importance and they celebrate such kind of things. People must know that ,transfering once gender cant change their real soul and personality, make up has limitations

[@_march_egg_]

Domestic violence happens in straight marriage. The victims kill themselves. Straight marriage should also not exist by your logic.

[@KunalPawar1620]

This argument feels like saying that we have laws in place which do not account for same sex marriage and so we should not have same marriage instead of updating the laws to account for it.

[@apolloismydad]

This argument is addressing the issues and loopholes that will arise in the Judiciary system if SSM was to be legalised, so before that is done, these changes need to be made in the constitution to account for same s*x couples

[@sushantkatare555]

Just for some peoples delusions changing the law for other billions is very idiotic

[@VIVEKDUDI]

​@@sushantkatare555true next people will say i love dogs and i want to marry dog it should be legalised because who you are to stop us its our right 🌈🌈🌈🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@NishaMandal-cy5fg]

​@@VIVEKDUDIshut up. Both things are not same. Gay or lesbians are also human. Do you think human and dog is same?? Wtf!!

[@throwaway-ky5gh]

​@@sushantkatare555 How is it any more a delusion than hetero relationships?

[@arjundiwaker3449]

Can he complete half a sentence before saying “my lord”?

[@sritharkarun]

Mehta is just giving out childish counterpoints to Same-sex marriage, But his reasoning just mirrors how Indian law is rigidly binary and not inclusive to all

[@sarthakjoshi3797]

hey, did anyone else spot J. Sai Deepak in the background ?

[@blgayhindistories6477]

Nepal legalized same-sex-marriages. It's time for India now.

[@SivaRam1432-.-]

Wow, great thing to know yaar

[@bibekmandal9139]

Hell no

[@sourabhkumar3852]

We are not fool like Nepal..

[@redleon7689]

Just like us straight peoples we marry with the gender we like. Why can't they marry with the gender they like??? If I told a straight man to marry another man, marrying a woman is not allowed for you, is that fair for that man?? Who's gonna cook in there kitchen is there business not any buddy else's.

[@kanishkmalisetty8258]

It was heartwarming to know that there in actuality exist no problem with the union of same gender individuals. The solicitor general, considered to be learned counsel with unparalleled experience after thorough study couldn't find any fundamental problem in the union of man and man or woman and woman. Instead, he has however found that laws as they exist today do not accommodate same sex unions and that same gender civil rights need greater debate, community participation etc to develop inclusive laws. Quite happy

[@deepparashar98]

The best part about the video is Sai getting bored in the background .

[@khunevidit15]

Is he sai deepak ?

[@vinaysingh6229]

Yes at 0:50

[@kvtechvarshney5179]

I didn't see him sitting at back. U have a keen eye that u pointed him out. I really wanna hear his argument 😂. I'm a big fan.

[@airbornehunter29]

For the safety of the social structure of the society if few people have to be denied their basic rights, I don't see anything wrong in it. India has a massive population & the scenarios being discussed by the Solicitors Genral are bound to happen.

[@abhi_25246]

but gay people are harmless, imagine if u are forced to marry the same gender then??? similarly they are also humans

[@notditya7274]

@@abhi_25246 but that would affect our society, if we allow marriage's now we will see people kissing and shit they do in usa lgbt parades here aswell.

[@thewizard555]

Would you say that if you belonged to that minority ?

[@notditya7274]

@@thewizard555 depends if i am blineded by the selfishness of myn desires or not

[@cooly2999]

The same society accepted Sati, denied Widow Remarriage and women to not wearing Jeans/Tight clothes. Accepted Slavery as well. Societal morality changes by time. If we had the mentality of "save social structures" then the patriarchal and dominating social structures would never have changed.

[@lucassthazra94416]

I guess India should have a uniform marriage act, which will be generalised amongst caste, gender, religion along with the same time assure the citizens that it address the current problems in each of the marriage acts and prevent it from happening.

[@lucassthazra94416]

I ALSO RESPECT THE CURRENT JUDICIARY SYSTEM FOR THE APPROCHES TO MAKE IT MORE TRANSPARENT AMONG THE PEOPLE.

[@ClearBlueSky1]

This is kind of hilarious that people can be so educated and yet so stupid and lacking in empathy. If you are getting your right to live life however you want without anyone questioning your morality what makes you think its okay to deny those rights to other human beings ?

[@shrikar9092]

yess!!!

[@padmabharali1306]

New to India?

[@GokulHardy7]

What about incest?

[@utkarsh3672]

@@GokulHardy7 really good question , have same rights should not be an issue in a democracy , but the insanity going around in West around this topic has changed my views on liberalism as "whole"

[@ifisawyourreplyiwillanswerback]

Every country is not America bud. Smh

[@yoyo_is_sus]

How could he bring up incest 😂 someone give him basic knowledge on biology and genetics

[@NileshVerma-rd3jy]

You are talking about inbreeding only three words refused your argument concentrations sterilization abortion

[@fnestbold]

​@@NileshVerma-rd3jyI'm sorry but you meant to say contraception.

[@NeeleshVerma-s2e]

​@@fnestboldyes

[@saupi5256]

One question will arise... when gay be legal ...will it be applicable to all religions?....it will definitely create problem

[@SojemBellai]

You can’t change the reality with emotion.

[@rishabhdixit8546]

I think people should have a look at 10th marksheet or they should try to fill a government form...they will realise how important it is to declare mother and father...if only one letter is missed by you...all of the form is rejected

[@sudhakar7889]

Then why did you not prefer living in cave like your forefathers did?

[@apolloismydad]

yes, that is a problem which has a simple solution Parent 1 Parent 2

[@beast8667]

No weakness in this country of great warriors

[@debolinametia4669]

It sounds way too ridiculous. These are the kinds of people who are in the highest court? No offence but did they even try to do some basic research about this?

[@byebyedislikecount939]

Nope. They clearly are living in the 1950s

[@Rohan_Kumar___]

Definitely far more than you.

[@byebyedislikecount939]

@@Rohan_Kumar___ I listened to the SG arguments on day 5 or 6 I think? And he literally tried to group all queer people into the transgender group. Whiles he's trying to give good arguments, he just doesn't have any proper understanding about LGBT in general and if he did, incest argument wouldn't have been raised

[@Rohan_Kumar___]

@@byebyedislikecount939 Incest point has to be considered as well if you look at a broader picture. Because tomorrow there will be people demanding incest marriage rights. What will you do then? And the SG is arguing in the SC , he has to present a broader picture about what all these could lead to.

[@byebyedislikecount939]

@@Rohan_Kumar___ I replied to you in another comment but incest is NOT a sexuality. You choose to have relations with ur sibling. Homosexual people are only able to love someone from the same sex. They can't like the opposite sex, they have no choice.

[@avibhardwaj6179]

I think the issue is with the rights they want and perks allowed to married couples....so it's not necessary we call it a marriage but it can be thought that way , that they should get similar rights+perks as a married couple is allowed...that won't interfere with the meaning of marriage as well as they'll get what they want

[@Rohan_Kumar___]

That's why there is a concept of " civil union" where they can get their rights. It will a best solution.

[@neoz225]

correct.

[@princejangra1231]

Same thinking was allowed in US and west and it went bonkers We should do it carefully and learn from them A gender neutral as a whole kind of law would help much better in arguments against sexuality

[@meghajain1712]

So basically we have taken away the basic human rights of a huge chunk of people because our legal system is too lazy to do the work?

[@frost6471]

Huge chunk of people? I'll advise you to revisit the sources of your claim and then open your mouth

[@NicolaFossi]

​@@frost6471Lgbt people make up among 4 and 15 percent of population, according to Dalia, Gallup, and Ipsos researches. So your reply Is totally pointless

[@fnestbold]

​​@@frost6471yes! A huge chunk of people! Reports show that 17% of india is homosexual. 14% of India is muslim. So we can say, there are more gays, than Muslims.

[@ryzenftw999]

I think it's better that the Judiciary of India takes time to set the laws carefully because the purpose of judiciary is to serve justice which is just and fair. Either don't make laws or make ones carefully so that that no one can escape or commit any wrongdoings by finding loopholes.

[@saumitrachakravarty]

Those are some really good points. His research should be taken into account so that all these British-era laws may be updated hand-in-hand without leaving any legal inconsistency for anyone including both heteros and LGBTQ+ people. If we truly want to return to pre-colonial glory, we much acknowledge and respect the LGBTQ+ community as did our distant ancestors.

[@IIBase]

Nobody supported these mentally ill fools in significant scale anywhere or anytime in our history.

[@NicolaFossi]

​@@IIBaseTotally false. Homosexuality, for example, was used to strenghten relationships within Spartan army. i can name you hundred of ancoent authors who talked positively about same sex realtionships. Go back to school.

[@_march_egg_]

@@NicolaFossi there is positive mentions of homosexuality in carvings and ancient texts which was made in pre-colonial india. They treated gay people the same way they treated straight people!!

[@MKirushnan3925]

​@@_march_egg_ Oh really 😂 in Tamil Nadu I heard It was a sin in past. Not by scriptures but in local belief systems. We never accept this.

[@isabell99840]

His whole argument is who is mother, who is father.. Whhatttt!!? When there r social, economical implications and about rights.

[@iamnode2088]

constantly trying to get approval of others to live their own life is so heart breaking they are not incest they are humans just treat them like humans

[@varunemani]

Let them live bro, why need for same sex marriage?.. Did society pressure two same sex induviduals to be married in India?? no that rule is pressured only on different sex people.

[@GobiSubramaniam]

Incest are incest. Don't like to rationalise how stray dogs live as "humane".

[@StarBoy-ps1xc]

Most Indians are like this , being ignorant until it is too late is in our blood🤦‍♂️

[@GobiSubramaniam]

@StarBoy-ps1xc - they forgot how our forefathers less than 100 years ago were dying of famine and starvation in India because of White men. And yet, today's generation is ready to sell their country back to the White men and live as their coolies. Disgusting.

[@nikumilotic1333]

​@@GobiSubramaniam shut up Incest is a different topic

[@xisc-25shourashishbanerjee89]

The answer to this very argument will be, that since the parties concerned are consenting adults, they themselves have, decided amongst themselves to enter into the act of marriage, similarly they will acknowledge amongst themselves that who will play the part of the father, and who will act as the mother, it just has to be signed under their consent on a legal paper. Now because of this a whole lot of technicalities and adjustments regarding succession and other acts would come, but again when this question would arise, their signatures , would testify their role in the marriage.

[@ishukumar4208]

Perhaps a signature can reduce legal ambiguity but that’s not only at stake here, notion of marrying same sex questions the concept of marriage, concept of man and women and their descendants. Same sex marriage will make biological differences between man and women redundant.

[@xisc-25shourashishbanerjee89]

@@ishukumar4208 ooh you have a, point here

[@GobiSubramaniam]

The problem with deciding among themselves is that they need to put it down into a legal contract before a Court to legalize it. That means that someone have to accept the role of Man and another must accept the role of the Wife. That is what the lawyer is arguing. Not the rejection of LGBT relationship altogether but the lack of legal binding for the same sex couple (on who will be accepting the role of the man and woman). Only when that legal obstacle is removed, the same-sex marriage can be added into Common Marriage Laws. But the problem here is the LGBT groups do not believe in the traditional definition of Man and Woman. They want to erase the concept of Man and Woman and demanding the whole legal spetrum of Marriage and Family laws to be changed just for that which is utter nonsense. This is like to fix the roof, you burn down the house and then rebuild the house to accommadate the new roof.

[@qwertyzxcvbn2502]

Is there a video for the counterpart's argument?

[@vastu1661]

Is they are fighting over lgtv ?

[@anjaneytripathi69]

LGTV

[@im_preetamkumar]

OMG , excellent arguments by SG !! 🥶🥶😱😱 The level of depthness in their argument is unfathomable.

[@screwupturfmann8611]

"Level of depthness" 🤣🤣

[@im_preetamkumar]

@@screwupturfmann8611oh man , that was *deepness* not depthness, it's a typing error . Well , how your nerd social media campaigns going? why u all people are behaving like desparates , hysterias and Manias ! # fu*king Geeks .

[@sujatanaik3848]

It's to make understand the Present CJI lord of hell .... What it takes , to legalise the gays marriage or same sex marriage.. Chandra choor seems not to understand anything except for marriage of same sex .

[@perseusvlasov367]

​@@sujatanaik3848 he finally didn't pass any law, just asked legislation that will include LGBT couple to have other perks and benifits as hetero married couple.

[@voiceofcrime]

1. "Wife" and "Husband" are extremely rigid social constructs made of patriarchal gender structures. There is no need to choose specific gender roles in a functional family. 2. Do not equate incest to homosexuality. 3. The question of blood arises only because we are still following rules that should have existed in the 19th century. Half and full blood doesn't matter when it comes to love

[@thekulaura]

L opinion

[@voiceofcrime]

@@thekulaura isn't an opinion babygirl

[@thekulaura]

no way in fuck im gonna listen to a genshin player, go take a shower

[@lady5049]

Seems like some people oppose same-sex marriage solely because it's an issue of the left rather than going by its pros and cons. No person in their right mind should equate same-sex and incest notwithstanding the 'love is love' argument. In the case of homosexual marriage, the very union itself is opposed thereby leaving the homosexual person with no option left. In the case of incest, it's only a specific type of heterosexual union that is being curtailed and the heterosexual person can very much find another partner.

[@anushka.narsima]

Exactly, you can't compare those two

[@dishuuu112]

Yess!! This!!

[@NeeleshVerma-s2e]

But love is love you can't choose fall in with who 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂your hypocrisy highest on the peace 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@tanishq4160]

0:01 bro i laughed😂. Why does it matter who will be the wife and who cares?

[@yashanilsaboo5446]

Is J Sai sitting in the back ? I'm really interested to know his point of view on the matter

[@akkusotu]

If same sex marriage is not made legal Lot of straight people will suffer So my message to straight people is Think of ur daughter getting married to gay And ur son getting married to lesbian Just because same sex marriage was illegal Think about it

[@monakandari6160]

Divorce do exists though

[@pointythecactus5469]

These are amazing questions which arise situations making everything a mess. Specially when you can wake up to feel something else everyday

[@AnneX59]

He’s so obsessed with defining who will be the wife, who will be the woman in the same sex marital relationship. Why Man. These oldies are obsessed with stereotyping gender so that they can’t impose gender specific performativity upon their wives in a marriage. But we’ve evolved. Even heterosexual marriages have evolved. Women are Not necessarily feminine. Nor the penile bearer always masculine. Why he’s trying to find gender specific identity in same sex marriage. This argument is based on the premise of heteronormativity. And the motion is to challenge the same. I think the point he’s making is a moot one.

[@nitinpatni5028]

Women ☕️

[@AbdulRehman-bu3ho]

1:13 time will tell how far fetched it is.............within few decade we are going to see it in western culture

[@Hithere-qj1wj]

Isnt it actually in practice in some Muslim cultures??

[@AbdulRehman-bu3ho]

@@Hithere-qj1wj Islam doesn't allow incest. marrying a cousin is allowed in many religions and cultures including Islam

[@Hithere-qj1wj]

@@AbdulRehman-bu3ho Half incest is still a incest.

[@AbdulRehman-bu3ho]

@@Hithere-qj1wj for sapinda marriage(for cousin marriage in Hinduism ) to perform its require son side 5th generation and daughter side 7th generation Here the degree of incest is less but it's still a incest

[@archityadav3616]

@@AbdulRehman-bu3ho It is prohibited Abdul.

[@MrDashingAshish]

These are brilliant questions which I never thought of. System should be simple.

[@princejangra1231]

Ofcourse mate I always say ki people think things are simple but are simpletons and easy overall Life is simple and complicated at the same time Hope we can do better than the west

[@piushpaul4880]

Ahh I used to believe too that life was simple

[@Chetna5]

After listening to all arguments regarding regarding SMA, all i hear is that our laws have shirtcoming, i did not find a single argument stating any incapabilities or shortcoming of homogeneous humanbeings identifying themselves as LGBTQIA+. It feels very clear that gender should not be the basis of defined person A and person B as a wife or a husband in a marriage. It is very clear that our constitution regards gender roles of male and female as father-mother and husband-wife respectively. We fail to recognise that gender is an identity of male and female and other body organs put together in a certain way to facilitate a few things for the sake of procreation and evolution in a broader aspect However a husband and a wife are not at all gender specific, they are mostly the roles taken in order to handle a dynamics of a family. Rather than treating a women deemed to be as a wife, wife should be defined as the one who is responsible for food, maintaining health of the house and have the ability to devote more of its time to the house as a choice of responsibility. Just females labeled as wife moreover feels not only like a role forced to be in and moreover a torture for many women, infact labelling males as main earners of the household does not do any justice to them either (see the rates of death from heart attack in men). This is where the real work is needed who of two married couple want to take on as a wife as role of one set of responsibilities and husband as another, who of the two is willing to devote majority of their time for maintaining kind mental and physical health and take on as a responsibility of a mother nd saying that it is but obvious that most of responsibilities are common yet a very crucial and very sensitive responsibilities that needs to be assigned to one specific role. Being a women all i can most definetly comment on is; not every women wants or capable to assume a role of either a wife or a mother... Some wants to stay alone, many want to go out and earn as they seem more capable and be the earner, the decision makers of the house as a dominant personality Hopefully, there are many male gender who would like to assume a role of being a non earner and take on household responsibilities far well- beyond their significant other one. Conclusion: A wife and a husband, a mother and a father cn be essentially categorised as is whereas there are 62 type of genders so what is point of labeling one gender as this, another as that. This solves problem of SMA and marriage in total, feminism, male chauvinism and many many domestic cases might just vanish... Now how to assume role is on you but how identify just add two columns on the aadhar ID identifying if married who is the wife and who is the mother. Until unless we think this way, equality...just forget it

[@altairauditore3782]

2:50 dude obviously they would come under the Indian succession act when they are marrying under the special marriage act. Why would they come under the Hindu marriage act or the Hindu succession act?

[@varunemani]

What if they are Hindu's or their family believes in marriage by Hindu act. Possible hai na?

[@altairauditore3782]

@@varunemanidude Hinduism as a religion does not recognise same sex marriage. That's just not a thing. So the Hindu marriage act won't apply because the marriage would not be done under hindu customs. Don't get me wrong I am not singling Hinduism out here.. All those three acts won't recognise this because those religions don't recognise it. So they will have to come under special marriage act.

[@varunemani]

@@altairauditore3782 Oh come on.. are'nt we just going around in circles with this DUDE! My point is would it be entirely upto the induviduals here in India to decide on such a thing (Choice of special marriage act) if their families are orthodox traditional Hindu's and are staunchly against accepting anything else to be considered a lawful marriage.. it's a terrible pickle of a matter and you cant certainly argue / force the entire society or nation to accept a certain special marriage act unless ofcourse all of said society deem it PURPOSEFULLY essential now.

[@altairauditore3782]

@@varunemani oh this is entirely because amending the special marriage act in this way would grant certain civil and legal rights which were not available before. Societal acceptance may or may not change anyways.

[@varunemani]

@@altairauditore3782 Civil and legal rights such as..??

[@85amitray]

Finally some light on the problems associated with Lgbtq .

[@jrhooman]

so the entire argument is that they would have to change a lot of the legal language, and hes trying to convince them that it would be highly inconvenient. Change should not be stopped because it is too difficult.

[@abiyadamian]

exactly!!! this comment 🤝

[@vaasavisingh2380]

What the hell did i just watch! I m sure he's a very intelligent and capable man that's why he's in such a high position but reallly sir what are you saying ?? In a same sex couple no one is a wife if they are both men and no one is husband when they are both women and other scenarios can be solved by simply changing the label to spouse. It's as simple as that. I don't consider myself the sharpest really but this was pretty obvious to me 😥

[@Rohan_Kumar___]

He was taking in the context of innumerable laws which consider couple as husband and wife and rightly so for the required distinction.

[@byebyedislikecount939]

@@Rohan_Kumar___ And those could be legislated properly without too much hassle. The only thing we need is for them to start with it

[@Rohan_Kumar___]

@@byebyedislikecount939 Then that will lead to lot of conflict between laws. Just asking can I identity as a women and ask for special treatment which women get under criminal procedure code? No I cannot do that because there has to be some distinction.

[@Hithere-qj1wj]

​@@Rohan_Kumar___ Is it really unsolvable?? Is it really a dead-end??

[@Rohan_Kumar___]

@@Hithere-qj1wj Not at all unsolvable. Instead the parliament can provide "civil union" to same sex couples in which they get most of their rights.

[@indiathought7982]

We are with Centre 🎉

[@sutapagoswami116]

These dilemmas are bound to come when the legal and socio-political system was designed keeping the heterosexual-binary in mind. Just because more paperwork is needed does not mean that we should not make the effort to make these changes. We owe this much at least to the people who have suffered for years.

[@Abhishek-ws8to]

Marriage is a by product of religion and is happened only between the opposite sex

[@கோபிசுதாகர்]

I don’t support this same sex marriage , I live in America and this culture is so awful.. beyond reproachable.. please keep the ban on same sex marage

[@Jivi_Galaxy]

💯💯😭exactly

[@akashpanchal8237]

Care to explain?

[@rohit170985]

How about make all marital laws gender neutral as they should be?

[@rajasishringarpure8658]

Just a idea: stop making laws based on who's the man and who's the woman . We are all people

[@asmitarana7240]

Quite an optmistic approach you have.

[@devu.ss_]

As ideal as it sounds the thing is the constitution of india is vast. Not to mention the biggest in the world which has been drafted almost a century ago. The amendments made follow a long procedure and amending everything in a go would be something id like to refer to as 'hysterical'. It would cause a chaos and as much as i am in the support of same sex marriages India has a lot more things to deal with especially as a developing nation. Its also important to keep in mind the conservative mindset of the generations living in the Indian society. Riots, domestic violence, protests, internal conflicts can be easily arisen if any amendment is made in a hurry. The laws will hqve to completely change and will cause extreme confusions. Had our constitution been one like from the west it wouldnt be as hard to make such changes but our constitution came into existence at an expense of millions of lives and a lot of dedication. Everything will be overturned with a single mistake. India needs time and the SC deserves a huge applause for taking this matter up and ckosely analysing it with reasonable arguments. Taking this matter up is anhuge achievement itself.

[@fegeleinthesithlord8910]

is it possible??like staring at a women is wrong but not at men kind of law??

[@fegeleinthesithlord8910]

@@shivendraupadhyay8415 thats what i wanted to say change these laws,laws of crime must not see gender ofc... but the laws of marriage and all need to be based on men and women thats how society works

[@hrithikraj209]

SG Tushar mehta does hell of a job.. He is just a formidable power to be reckoned on

[@MormotTheHog]

please keep India clean we dont want to be "free country"

[@azhar6525]

No to same sex marriage.

[@suyashsahu6505]

Yes brother 😊

[@aum8136]

sounds more of a colonist mentality..

[@mohitanand1844]

Using English , wearing shirts and even blouses came from colonialism . I suggest you stop using them all and start speaking prakrit

[@boros123]

homos got checkmated.

[@theeducator8574]

@@mohitanand1844 globalisation is not colonialism

[@sahil6621]

@@theeducator8574 colonialism is not limited to physical illegal occupation of a foreign country .

[@_march_egg_]

@@_Windless_Flame If our purpose in life is procreation, why are some people infertile?

[@iarikm]

I am supporting the CENTRE, I HOPE CJI WILL LISTEN TO OUR REPRESENTATIVE

[@MahendraGaur]

Idiotic argument. In case of gay marriage both are husbands, in case of lesbians both are wives….., so on and so forth. What’s is the problem with SG or the government or the society. LGBTQIA want legal status for their relationships. Earlier it was Criminalised against which they fought a long drawn battle…

[@tyagi7586]

This is not how Laws and society works.. This will cause chaos in future... That is happening in USA Right now. Who will give doctors right to assign genders to new born babies? 💀💀💀

[@madara7305]

I beleive you are a lawyer . Who i will write as father name in my jee form. Father 1 , father 2 .. woowwwww

[@mayank4596]

​@@madara7305 forms can simply be changed to say...parent 1 and parent 2

[@asmitamajumder6260]

​@@madara7305 the forms can get changed but I guess u didn't consider that instead of father what if guardian's name is only needed,then u won't have any confusion.

[@madara7305]

@@asmitamajumder6260 just try to fill a form bro u will realise

[@karthikks4773]

Is that J Sai Deepak in the back?? 🤔

[@user-zf9wn8xs7h]

Yes

[@pinacclepenny8315]

Man this is gonna be tough on both the parties I hope the best for all!!