BSA R10. Buying a second hand air rifle

[@jimcowley330]

Hi what I do for a pellet test for any gun I hand pick my pellets as you know some pellets can be slightly deformed so as a true test of accuracy this is what I recommend but brilliant video Andy great watching thanks regards Jim.

[@robertcichon8231]

Great video very informative and honest glad you added the costs in the vid great shooting !!

[@gardenguns]

Thanks Robert. Always good th get feedback. Glad you enjoyed it

[@heithwatkins]

Best rifle I have ever owned. 177cal SE right handed walnut. Shoots 16.2gr beast 21.33 ft pounds. Super accurate with everything over 10gr. ES 13 to 20. SD 2 to 5. Depending on pellets and shooting 30 shots. This regulator works! I haven't done a thing to it but shoot it. Hi, from the USA. 😁👍 Nice rifle by the way. You guys need to get together and change the rules in the UK. Nothing wrong with sub 12. Its great for shot count. But at the same time it's out dated. There's absolutely no reason to limit power to this level for grown men. I would petition for at least 80ft pounds. 100ft pounds is better. A. 22 long rifle is capable of 150ft pounds! It would help with more humane kills and 100 yard target shooting. You guys build quality Air rifles. You should be able to use them. God bless you brother. 🎯

[@gardenguns]

Thanks! We can own air rifles above 12ft/lb, however we need a Fire Arms Certificate. I am a bit envious of your gun laws! I hope you guys manage to resist any change. All the best from the UK my friend.

[@eddiebrundrett5785]

nice rifle i had the mark 2 and and the huma reg and the best fitting 300 bar cylinder it went on with no modification and it was carbon fibre a lot of shots lol keep up the good work ed

[@gardenguns]

Cheers for the comments Ed. Much appreciated. Hadn’t thought about upgrading the cylinder. Might have to look into that!

[@philm3crakin]

Bargin mate , love ya vids, top job lad 😎👍

[@gardenguns]

Cheers Phil, Will drop a video on the HW40 next

[@philm3crakin]

@@gardenguns ya know mate like the way ya make your videos, fair play 😎👍

[@gardenguns]

They are a bit rough, however the aim is to be exactly the same as if you met me at the shop or pub! Thanks for the feed back, all the best.

[@stuartparr9318]

Brilliant video mate I also brought my r10se from Phil at Leicestershire air guns and it’s going to Phil at the ratworks mid February once again mate brilliant video keep up the good work 👌

[@gardenguns]

Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it. Hope you enjoy the next one!

[@simonnoble7589]

Great review 👏 thanks... Do you think the lead pellet ban will come in soon ? Cheers Simon

[@gardenguns]

Thanks Simon. I hope if enough people respond to the consultation then we might be ok. Not looking good though.

[@markdunbar8219]

Looking for a new 12ftlb 22 not sure what rifle to buy I’ll be buying new.have heard bad things about daystate and bsa.why can’t I buy a good reliable gun off the shelf crazy🙄 any advice would be much appreciated 👍🏻😁

[@gardenguns]

Hi Mark. Sorry it has taken a bit of time to get back to you. To be honest work got in the way and I forgot. Like most things in life buying a rifle is all about your budget. At the lower end, I am loving the Reximex range. I think the BSA R10 is a good rifle and there are some good tuners out there such as Phil at Ratworks who can make it even better if you want that extra bit more. Well worth looking into after the manufactures warranty has run out as a good tuner will guarantee their work. The HW100 is a machine and has been a constant for years. FX Dreamline if you fancy a bit of Swedish wizardry and finally the AGN Technologies range from Czech. These are what I currently either own or want to get hold of for a play, however there are plenty of other options e.g Brocock, Air Arms, Air Maks the list goes on. Another way forward would be to get a second hand R10 and send it to Ratworks for a service and a tune! Hope this helps

[@spasticjackson9578]

14:45 what's going on inside ?

[@gardenguns]

🤣looks like I was photo bombed by my lad!

[@GrandmaRob]

Beautiful gun and good video!

[@gardenguns]

Thanks! I love my R10!

[@GrandmaRob]

@@gardenguns would love to see some used ones in the states

[@gardenguns]

You wouldn’t like our low 12ft/lb limit 😳😆

[@GrandmaRob]

@@gardenguns Wish we had more brick and mortar air gun shops here to see beautiful air guns in person. Would be nice to compare them. Across the pond it seems like you guys have many distributors and places to go.

[@geoffreybrown3332]

Very much enjoyed your video, honest and straightforward, you appear to own a beautiful well maintained gun, would you sell it

[@gardenguns]

Thank you very much for the feedback! I keep swinging between selling the Huntsman and the R10 to pay for an Winchester All Weather. Unfortunately my R10 needs a bit of a tune up before I can sell it. I am going to drop it into Ratworks in the new year. Have a great Christmas 🎄 and a fantastic New Year!

[@oje2963]

nice vid pal

[@gardenguns]

Thanks, I was a bit worried it was going to be too long. Glad you enjoyed it.

[@SNIPERSUPERTEN]

ive been shooting air rifles for 45 yrs and bsa guns are not a patch on what they used to be,,ive known friends of mine who have had the mk1 like yours and mk2 's and had no end of problems straight from the factory with regulator problems,air leaks and so on,why should people have to take them to gunsmiths and have them changed and tuned,they should be perfect from the makers considering the price you pay for them,not the old school bsa quality like days gone by im afraid.

[@gardenguns]

I think if I was buying new I would go for an HW100 over a BSA. As a second hand purchase though the BSA is definitely worth looking at. There are some awesome tuners out there.

[@heithwatkins]

Not my experience at all. Bought a R10SE brand new. Its the USA version. I shoot it weekly since March of 2020. Not one problem. I've never cleaned the barrel. Consistent and deadly accurate. I absolutely love this rifle.

[@johnmarsh2078]

Not my experience. Bought a 2nd hand R10 mk2 in.177 and it's never missed a beat. I had to put a new O-ring on the probe but that's it. Shorty silencer and a Hawke scope. It drills crows at 25 yards every time

[@dave-javu]

do you know enough to do a video timeline for the R10...? how does it all work? when did they switch to a MK2 ? and is the new R10 SE TH considered a MK2? or is there a MK3 now? would like to know a bit of the history as my dads bought one second hand but wants a left handed stock for it, but not sure whats changed and when, will any R10 stock fit? or are there variations we need to know about? sorry for all the questions ive just ordered myself a R10 TH and am now trying to learn as much as possible...good vid btw :)

[@gardenguns]

Hi, glad you enjoyed the vid. The mk1 r10 has a distinctive bull Barrel. Basically exactly the same as the one in the video. The Mk1’s could do with some regulator work. The newer versions of the R10 don’t seem to suffer from the same reg issues. Best place for in depth information will be one of the Airgun forums. Try www.airgunbbs.com as a good place to start. Sorry I can’t be much more help. I am not an expert on the R10’s history and development. I do know that they are one of my favourite Airguns though. Hope you and your Dad get as much pleasure from yours!

[@dave-javu]

@@gardenguns thanks for the insight and info...we went to a range yesterday to shoot mine and my dad was pulling off some great shots, as was i...loving the R10TH :)

[@gardenguns]

Awesome, that is great to hear!

[@aboutthemetal8783]

The gun first appeared at the end of 2009 , there were so many issues that many got recalled and it was around 12 months before the tweaked r tens started to appear in gun shops , some were fine some were utterly flawed and kept leaking and having drops and rises in power . Personally I've never had an issue , however I did get a full time up and reg replacement by rat works and I did notice tighter groups at longer distances and an increase of twenty shots on the overall shot count .

[@philm3crakin]

Yes I did keep goin lad 👍

[@andrewward5244]

Do a review on the daystate huntsman next. 👍🏻👍🏻 been looking at getting one second hand.

[@gardenguns]

It is on it’s way! However I have had a few problems..... hopefully get it done within the next few weeks.

[@kevsmith972]

Great video again👍🏻 huntsman has my vote.

[@gardenguns]

Cheers Kev. 1 for the Huntsman and 1 for the S200. I zeroed the S200 today. I’ll go with the next vote!

[@markhomer5704]

Great vid .. subbed

[@gilly2bad]

You have a new sub. Great Video! Considering the cost of BSA rifles brand new they seem to need so much done to them. I'm a new shooter with only 4 rifles (Snowpeak M16, T-Rex, Walther RM8 walnut and a Rexemis Pretensis in walnut) and 2 of them the Walther RM8 walnut and a Rexemis Pretensis easily match the BSA R10 grouping at 40 yards. My M16 at 30 yards matches the BSA R10 too. Not had a single issue with any of them. A new R10 cost as much as all my rifles combined. Just saying.. 😁

[@gardenguns]

@@gilly2bad Can’t fault the RM8! Thanks for the Sub. Hope you enjoy my other videos!

[@justingreen9262]

Great review again.I do love the look of the R10s and would love the TH because of the shot count.Are the regs just not as good as say,the weirauchs or Air Arms?Love the tripod rifle rest btw.👍🏻

[@gardenguns]

Cheers Justin. I know there were issues with the R10 MK1 reg. I haven’t heard many horror stories about the current version. Air arms produce some great rifles. My favourite is the S200. Not much can beat it for the price. The HW’s are the BMW’s of the Airgun world. They perform. It is the stock and the feel of the rifle when you shoulder it that does it for me with the R10 though. My Huntsman is the only thing that challenges it in terms of feel.

[@justingreen9262]

@@gardenguns Thanks for the advice. Atb👍🏻

[@aboutthemetal8783]

I've had many r tens from the very first batch to hit retail about 13/14 years ago , I was lucky because I never ever had an issue with the reg on it , furthermore Ive had early mk 2s ,late one and even the r 10th and the regs were completely fine , 15 FPS variation over 10 shots , I only charge them to 200 bar and only shit 8 10 shot mags for consistency reasons . If you are going to buy second hand use common sense , if you know a reputable shop and they guarantee that it's been serviced and checked before going on sale it's worth a serious consideration . If you have a mate who's selling one ,make sure you know him well and get him to chrono it in front of you , plus if possible take it for a shoot , if there's one advertised online or in the back of a magazine be very very weary and give the rifle a thorough check over with a chrono , personally id avoid that scenario .

[@johngriffiths3309]

Finally I have one ( second hand ) 👍🏻😀

[@gardenguns]

Good news! Enjoy!

[@derekjefferson1324]

Hi Enjoyable and informative video, nice looking stock on your R10, how many average shots do you obtain from a fill ? This is the only negative I have with my HW100KT As you say “enjoyment in using /shooting” even at targets in the garden! Go steady and stay safe

[@gardenguns]

Hi Derek, thanks for the feed back. From a 230 bar fill down to about 130-140 bar I get between 80 and 100 shots. The rifle is pushing JSB Diablo’s and Hades 15.89 grain out at approximately 11.8ft/lb. All the best

[@johnmason8452]

Whens the next video ?

[@gardenguns]

I have been trying to get the S200 done. I seem to be at work when the weather is good and at home when is is pants. I have just stripped it down and done some adjustments to the trigger so I will have another try at doing a video on Zeroing while I set the rifle up for test. My first zero video was a bit crap.

[@fatphunker]

So £475 +£250 for a rat works tune and new mod ?

[@gardenguns]

Approximately £475 + £130 for the tune and shroud. The reg had already been done.

[@ukairgunner3267]

Another great video! I love my R10. It's even better since it's been to ratworks 👍 Hey, is that a bit of covid spread going on there mate?

[@gardenguns]

Yep. Covid hit the same time as middle age. Double whammy!

[@ukairgunner3267]

@@gardenguns i know that feeling well lol 👍

[@MrNewtonian]

How is the rifle performing now? I'm thinking of getting the ratworks treatment,.

[@pemburukatrok1432]

Senapan yang sangat luar biasa sekali

[@funkygrib1]

and pretty ;-)

[@funkygrib1]

S200 ;-)

[@gardenguns]

Chalk one for the S200!