You Are NOT A Producer (most of the time) (audio fix)

[@Bthelick]

BTW, This is reload of last year's video without the sound issues. There is sequel here; kzbin.info/www/bejne/eH2QZ2Z-qseli8ksi=5L_4_ClUed1etBzM

[@gri_sh5081]

Tommy Wisaeu wrote, stared, and directed his own film. Don’t let your dreams be dreams

[@MPXVM]

Bthelick is my favorite YT channel when I want to hear a calm voice talking about house music

[@jedstephensmusic0001]

excellent advice, it's always hard when working on your own and sometimes it's good to just sit with your chosen instrument and jam, but after decades of doing that, the majority of times now, I have an idea of what kind of track I want to write, I do a rough writing stage, a sound choosing stage, a mixing stage then a mastering stage, break everything up into separate jobs, and have good breaks between jobs, your music will be much better for it

[@b00ts4ndc4ts]

I have never thought of myself being a producer, I'm a musician.

[@ruk2023--]

I think from my perspective most of the confusion comes from people taking the word producer to literally mean the person that produces the song from nothing whereas in reality it is a management oversight function that brings everything together.

[@alexsternwart7057]

@@ruk2023-- but Times an termes changing. Like a lot of djs are more actors today.

[@cryptout]

Very interesting and yes I learned something. Thanks 🙏

[@ruk2023--]

@@alexsternwart7057 Fair point.

[@ConnorTostevin1]

Great video! Love these philosophical videos's these subjects often get over looked.

[@dzaxys4643]

House of kush taught me how to use compression properly after not really getting it for years good shout out Knowledge on here too have a sub ✌️

[@San7hos]

I thought we clarified this in the previous video. However, this one is even simpler and clearer. Well put!

[@carptackula7536]

Awesome thought provoking video. Thanks for being you.

[@RoomAtTheTopStudio]

Thank you for doing this video. It will fall on the deaf ears of those who don't want to accept the truth but you have really nailed it.

[@HyenDry]

I am everything since I am alone

[@Bthelick]

Well my argument is, it's still possible to finish music on your own and have never produced it. Many tracks I have released are unproduced!

[@danjers77]

I just needed this video today! Thanks!

[@Strafuzz]

The strings in ‘Don’t Stop to You Get Enough’ are absolutely fire and one of the most recognisable aspects of the track!

[@Scx4r]

Wowie, this question has been bugging me intermittently for a couple of years now! Thanks for making this super clear video about it! 👌🏻

[@HenningUhle]

OK, finally subscribed. You are right with your opinion. I've always struggled with the term ‘producer’. I just want to make my own music, just fiddle around and have fun. This is not producing at all. This is like the younger me sitting in the practice room 1988 behind my drumset and hammering on the drums just to see what comes out. I'm now 51. There are dudes out there telling every adult one that you can be a big star even in higher age. What if this is not the goal? Of course, it would be great if the most successful song that came out of my DAW would have had more than 290 plays within the last 3 months. But hey, I have a great fulltime job and make music just as a hobby. There are dudes out there telling you that you are a bedroom producer. I think that producing music is much more. When my heroes OMD recorded their 1983 album "Dazzle Ships", they worked together with Rhett Davies who worked with Genesis, Brian Eno, B-52's to name a few. There were struggling production sessions as the songs were not really radio-friendly and Davies wanted this to be changed. In the end, they created this dense record which was a complete disaster from a financial perspective. But no album had more influence to electronic music, for example to Scooter, Moby, St. Etienne and so on. I think, being a producer also means to be the lonely cowboy who fights against a big group of people, in this case a band. The struggle is always there to find the best way to complete an album. Without the glooming sound of David Allen, "Disintegration" by The Cure would never be this magnum opus that we all know. And no, I'm not such a person.

[@adirsab]

It’s funny I was just thinking today that I’d rather focus on "directing" than handling all the technical aspects of production.

[@willnadamusic]

To produce is to make. To make can be vague. So just like most I decided a long time ago to learn it all and I’m so happy I did but…..let’s just say I’m surprised I still have my hair because of the amount I’ve pulled out. And pretty much sacrificed everythjng else including my own small family that I made. This is the real meaning of what selling your soul is. Production to me was something I learned from Pat Vegas bass player from Redbone. I spent a couple years with him working on one of his newer albums. Him and I got to a point where he would come to the studio play a whole bunch of stuff and even get on the synthesizer using making whole bunch of sounds melodies and chords even get on the drum machine and make six or seven beats, and when he came back the next day, I was supposed to have a few songs for him to check out without adding any instruments myself just taking everything that he had that a lot was brilliant, but there was no song I had to make a song for him by choosing where everything goes and more importantly, where everything is supposed to go because it’s where it belongs. not to get weird but it’s almost almost as if the song was already there I just had to find it and I got really good at finding it and that’s how i became a producer

[@DMAO_Music]

Maybe it's time to use a new term, since modern music makers, especially in the EDM space, do wear all the hats; at least until we can afford to outsource to various experts. Maybe Creator? The creation process, at the end of the day, involves all of the pieces coming together. So as an EDM Creator, you wear all the hats and do all the things. I dunno, just thinking that a change in nomenclature should probably happen since the industry has also changed.

[@Bthelick]

Yes I think a change of language is in order but it usually can't be dictated it just forms from the culture. Creator works for me 👊

[@kazoku_rec]

Actually it's from the early days of House and all genres that came from it that the word producer in that sense emerged. And simply because when wearing all the hats, in the end producer is the word that makes more sense. Before making electronic music in the late 80's I was a musician. After I became a producer because I decided for everything from writing the music, sampling, programming synths, engineering and what the final "product" should sound like. Exactly the function of a producer: having a control on the whole process of a project so it is coherent. I'm way more annoyed of the trend that started about 15 years ago with DJ's playing "live". Playing pre-recorded tunes from other artists is not being "live". Again in the early days, some artist advertised as playing live in a party/club was someone that would come with some equipment and play some live arrangements of his own tracks. Well...semantic...😅

[@eamfos]

Useful and simple to understand ! Thank you ...

[@Ref.chavez]

Thank you so much for what you do. Yes, it’s very hard working alone and breaking the mindset that it’s not only one role. I’m still learning the basics but eveytime I quit on an idea is cause of the fear of the unknown and not knowing what I’m doing but I know it’s mostly from the lack of discipline and not pushing myself. Any recommendations on beginner videos that actually tech me something, instead of “follow along and watch as I do”. Thank you

[@Bthelick]

Thankyou for the donation 🙏 Well this is the reason I started the channel. I personally can't learn by copying actions , I need the underlying reasons. So that's how I try to teach. What areas are struggling with most?

[@Ref.chavez]

@ I’m a beginner but honestly, discipline. And to go back to your point that you made in the video; “working alone”. Working alone is hard and frustrating when figuring out programs. I usually take a step or two forward, then take those same steps backwards. I’ve looked into classes but never made much effort

[@nomaddigitalmusic]

This is pure music content❤️thank you Sir

[@LukeIcardMusic]

Love this video thanks man!

[@MORRILL_MUSIC]

RIP quincy!!!

[@ryanpino1403]

great layout of something that I think tends to bring stress to ~ producers ~ today!

[@DcJay85]

Why cant I stop thinking of DJ Khaled while watching this?

[@Mopark25]

We're bedroom producers, think that captures it.

[@b00ts4ndc4ts]

I just sleep in my bedroom and the only things in my bedroom is my clothes and my bed. One thing I have learnt is if you can have a room for making music because you get into the headspace of the reason why I am here is to make music.

[@RoomAtTheTopStudio]

You make bedrooms?

[@Ryanez93]

I'm a Producer of oranges and ganga.. Selling to all in need, of the produce.. That grows, on my trees.

[@giltedgeorge]

The background song reminds me of Atlantic Ocean - Waterfall

[@giltedgeorge]

10:15 I get the point you're making, but being in the uk does this not result in half your clients saying "remix this song to be a m1 piano/organ house song" or "remix this vocal to sound like Fisher/Dom dolla/etc".

[@Bthelick]

Maybe a bad producer yes!

[@electronicsfreakjasper]

The beginning of the video is very good. At the end it lacks a bit. Just producing. i don't know shit but i'm in for some good music.

[@SignificantOther11]

maybe if wannabe-producer DJs spent less time deciding which abstract concept they're gonna let influence their work instead of just...writing music, dance music would be in a better place right now.

[@Bthelick]

Well I've done it. Because if you just wait for inspiration to strike , it's inconsistent and sporadic. And that's a hobby. If you want a career from it you have to turn up and work every time and finish something even when you're not completely feeling it , so leaning on any reason (like abstract concepts) to start and finish a track is sometimes the only way to get it done. Plus after a number of years, experience does teach you that ideas you didn't think were particularly great turn out to be diamonds in the rough for other people.

[@alexsternwart7057]

I make the whole process from writing to the release, including the label and play it in clubs as a dj. so what Iam?

[@Bthelick]

What You am (🤣) still depends. It's possible to create and finish music without producing it. I do it all the time! A good chunk of my output is not produced.

[@beatskool101]

The Kush video is a year old, you had me going thinking there was something new. :(

[@Bthelick]

Yes this video itself is a re upload from a year ago

[@beatskool101]

@@Bthelick Cheers I hadn't seen the re-upload and haven't seen anything new from him for a while, so had to ask incase he had a new channel. Let's hope he does more soon, or maybe he feels he's covered everything? or enjoying life in other ways?

[@quadrant2012]

Making tracks

[@leon3589]

Bit complicated this one when one's a musician.

[@ConnorTostevin1]

Do you want to work with more producers or beat makers?

[@At.mos.fEarProduktionz]

So when you play and sequence and arrange and record and mix and master everything… what does that make you?

[@Bthelick]

Performer, programmer, arranger and engineer!

[@At.mos.fEarProduktionz]

@ fair enough 😂. Cool video by the way. 😎

[@deanchester8754]

Dejavous

[@MORRILL_MUSIC]

If you arent in a studio working with other artist collabing on vocals, melodies, engineering. You arent a producer. We just arrange ideas.

[@Italliving]

that's narrow , some of the greatest track are produced, arranged, mixed and mastered in a bedroom

[@virkots]

This video makes no sense. You are living in the old world. It's telling that you only found old people from like the 70s and 80s (I think you called them "some of the greats"). Could you not find any recent examples with young producers? Maybe it''s because you're trying to fit your old worldview into a new world where it doesn't really make sense in the way you want it to. But whatever, if it works for you, keep it up. Maybe there are some old people that will learn something from this. Maybe some young people will find it useful to learn how the old people do it.

[@Bthelick]

(try the new video this a reload of an old version. The new version mentions Skrillex , four tet, and Fred again amongst others)

[@melvincoleman595]

If you don’t know where you are coming from how will know where your going.