Chainsaw hand filing, file size options for dull chain .

This chainsaw has been improperly filed, and now I have to get it sharp, I show my technique for this half sharp chain

[@harrywensel8456]

Just found Billy's channel. I own two Harbor Freight electric chain saws. I know even I laugh at that. My slowest cutting has tooth link, link, link, tooth. It is like an old man like me with not all their teeth. My other chan saw was twice the price and has tooth, link, link, tooth. It is pretty slow. Anyway I sharpened both and what a difference. Thank you Billy!!

[@dclassb8135]

I don’t run a saw or swing axes, but I still come here everyday because the message is so good!

[@BuckinBillyRaySmith]

these are my favorite comments .. love ya Brother

[@geralddavis9236]

That file job is brutal + your explanation before hand made perfect sense thank you Buckin

[@jirusjirus9322]

Wow, zippidy rippidy doo da with the nice sharp chain...camera work looks super clear, love the intro, love the voice over, love the Buckin Army of peace. 🌱🪶

[@BuckinBillyRaySmith]

jj love wins

[@Joj_knows_jack]

Love this channel and can’t wait to file my rancher 455 or my 390, what a great thing to come home from work teaching my grade 7 class and find a new video waiting for me! My three own kids see me practising what you preach, whether it’s sharpening or tuning saws, taking problem trees down at our shack in jordan river, or just being kind to strangers. Thanks for the inspiration and loving community, BBR! Joji, Victoria, BC

[@BuckinBillyRaySmith]

glad yer here

[@dirk_krueger_baumkrueger7612]

Hi BR Good handfiling is the bottom known of an good woodcutter in anyways! Thank you to share your experience with the all the people who wants to learn something needful. 💪 I love to be here, on your channel. Thank you very much! To all people here! Best regards, Dirk

[@BuckinBillyRaySmith]

thx

[@dannymcelyea2596]

So well put!!!

[@joshuajohnson4396]

Thanks Richard and you too plus everyone else. Buckin, I want to take a sec to thank you for doing what you do. Your videos have helped me and so many others to be able to make our lives safer when dealing with problem trees.

[@whitetailstorm1967]

Excellent content. Best saw chain sharpening videos I have seen. Exactly what i was looking for. Subscribed

[@BuckinBillyRaySmith]

welcome

[@djhotshot67]

got the ol 395xp out today buckin 36in bar its an oll production logging saw no chain brake 95% its been ported and its a monster !! love you Buckin keep up the good content 👍❤

[@johnmorse5617]

Hey Buckin, the macs are ripin. You always set a great example for all of us Buckin. Thank ya kind sir.

[@ncode03]

When i started to hand file, I watched and learn many filing tutorials and tips but i couldn't get a perfect result because i didn't tighten the bar enough. Just a little wobble during filing makes a huge difference. Hope this helps someone new like i was. Btw Billy, that saw cut like hot knife through butter. Just beautiful to watch

[@timsmithoutdoors]

Buckin love it brother. Get the gullet has been a game changer for me along with “get the raker gauge” haha!!! Peace and love to you my friend!!

[@brettblack7049]

Get the raker gauge 😄. That sure helps doesn't it.

[@chrisb9478]

I was cutting some thick Locust here in eastern NC today. That wood dulls a chain quick! I was using my 550xpMk2 I bought last year. It’s a beast for a 50cc saw. I had to stop to sharpen 3x today. 😁

[@BuckinBillyRaySmith]

interesting, i dont find that with locust, ,,good practice any eh Chris ,, thx pal

[@chrisb9478]

Looking closer at bark, think it was Hickory or Red Oak

[@brettblack7049]

@@BuckinBillyRaySmith dead standing black locust is a chain eater. Do you guys have BL up there.

[@dannymcelyea2596]

Your an awesome Teacher my friend! I just bucked up some hard maple with a fresh sharpened chain used all the skills you share with us and I'm not kidding it was the best cutting chain I have ever ran used or new! It was a pleasure thanks BBR!!! take care

[@caseG80]

I had same experience a few weeks back I was close but with bigger file size and following his technique sure was fun cutting cheers

[@dannymcelyea2596]

@@caseG80 it can be kind of hypnotic when that saw tuned ever so perfectly sinks into that log!

[@DillonRehel]

Your explanations are great I always learn something by watching these videos!! Thank Buckin

[@BuckinBillyRaySmith]

kool

[@sabemoistowellette5341]

Definitely trying to file my chain this weekend, thanks for the tips and knowledge truly a blessing friend

[@AnDrEw122100]

Can’t wait for the 850 video I like those kind of videos. I can’t wait for tinman to send that old homelite back .

[@tazman-kennyfuller]

Love seeing the Greenup coming along. Oh buddy the Macs are lookin great. Look forward to seeing the 850s all buzzin.. love ya brother. 🌲❤️🌲👊🪓

[@BuckinBillyRaySmith]

rite on

[@johnandolivia]

Buckin, lovely illustration of what to do. Makes prefect sense. Get the gullet!

[@lrocca686]

Hi Billy, nice clear explanation as always

[@timberzach1324]

Great video as always Buckin thank you for sharing such great advice on many levels really has helped my family and I with so much and it’s fun haha

[@BuckinBillyRaySmith]

good stuff

[@thebradleysoncatbirdhill6849]

You know your message of proper sharpening education is spreading when..... Mrs Bradley happens to come up behind me as I'm watching this video. She can't hear anything, as I have my earbuds in. However, she looks at the moment in the video where you were pointing out a tooth that needs a lot of work. She proudly commented..."That tooth does not look good at all!" Love you all...❤️❤️❤️ Lieutenant Bradley

[@jamiebarkingspider5419]

You just know I love a Mac 850 buckin 🔥 have to get mine out this week😁

[@tinmanssaws]

Man that Buckin fella can file a mean chain!! Can't wait for for yhe 850 shootout video!!!

[@BuckinBillyRaySmith]

nnnnaaaaaaaa! just get lucky now and again

[@Helga____]

😂 right.....

[@richardmoll5618]

That old Mac rips!! Nice job with the filing Buckin!

[@richardmoll5618]

And Amazing job TINMAN!

[@justinweaver8787]

I've sharpened alotta 3/8 wit 3/16 file its been all i had b4. Or all the saw shop had in stock was 3/16. As u know.u gotta roll on when loggin. So ive been in that spot a few times. Have a good weekend sir.

[@patthesoundguy]

Once you get to run a big bar like that with full 3/8 full chisel full house chain you never want to go back! I tried a 36" bar on my little 34cc ported Poulan 2150 with an iron horse exhaust and that's all I want to use now lol That chain is addictive when you start throwing the big chips. 😎

[@4170-d3e]

Great video Buckin ! GET THE GULLET !!!! So so important!

[@michaelhumphreys2118]

I just got a Holzfforma G660. An I cut a little bit with it. It cut ok. Just ok. Not what I think a new chain should cut. So when I got home. I bragged my file. An seen right off that the chain was not excepting my file properly. It had no gullet. Must be a square grind. Gullet is straight. With what I call a beek at the top. So I did exactly what you are showing. To file a proper gullet in it. But my Stihl files dont file as quick as your files seem to. I worked my tail off. Please tell us where we can get good files like yours. I have learned so much from you. More than just filing. I love you Buckin. An I'm not afraid to say it. Please never stop spreading the message.

[@dinxsy8069]

a video covering all chain sizes with what file and raker gauge would be helpful

[@brettblack7049]

You can use a 3/16 on a 3/8 lp(picco in still brand). Ots not so much about the size as understanding what the cutter should look like in order to perform well with your cutting style, saw, and wood. A chain should be tuned to those things for maximum performance or to last longer in dirty/frozen wood.

[@kansasgardener5844]

How do I sharpen a stihl micro chain? What size file? Could you make a video on these chains? Best sharpening videos on YT hands down! Thanks so much.

[@richardjennex6583]

Good afternoon everyone hope you all are having a wonderful day

[@dwizzleusa4202]

Buckin I'm getting better and better at square file. Got some good feedback on square filing a ms200t.I 👍 thanks buckin

[@ScrewdriverTUNING]

Heck yea we are making it happen. Kindness and love one person at a time .!!!☀️❤️‍🔥🦾

[@seanmoon1444]

Nothing but gratitude 🙏🏻

[@joeyrector934]

Like I said in your videos before. You just can't beat them old mac's

[@mikerivers4222]

Get the freakin' Gullet!!! Have a good week buckin!

[@michaelcook184]

Always a pleasure

[@johnsuch5914]

I always love your filing videos !!! Will ever forget standing shoulder to shoulder with you at Buckin' Stock while you sat on a log filing :) LOVE WINS BE KIND

[@donaldcobb6194]

Thanks for yet another great tutorial video! Could you perhaps show us a before and after sharpening video? Thanks again.

[@caseG80]

He has them check the video logs there’s many, cheers

[@hendersonpaul2627]

I think I heard you say you preferred Oregon bars. Thinking of using that for my MS291.

[@lanceeardley5578]

Love me some Bucking Billy Ray.. be kind!! Dig it!

[@slolivn]

Awesome video! Much love brother, be safe!

[@johnpolishak]

I wish you would make a video on choosing the right size file to use. How do you determine what size file to use. You go over how to sharpen a chain but not most importantly which size file to use. Can you make a video of how to determine what size file to use. Have different size saws and go over how to determine what size file to use for each saw.

[@brotherscraig1118]

I dig it man. You have some good info 👍 good stuff.

[@tome.joyner887]

Man Billy Ray that little Mac rips....Cleetus already taught me about gettin the Gullet....I told you that didn't I😂

[@trishaplescia9234]

Is Bearclaw ok? Haven't heard about him in a while? Thanks for great content.

[@jensenwilliam5434]

Thank you Billy Ray.

[@jacksonpalmer6628]

Buckin What are you using to sharpen your draw knives I’ve started messing around with some old heads I’ve bought Learning a lot on the channel Thanks

[@leonardvirtue5753]

My wife said that sounds annoying I said no it’s love❤️👍😂😂👌💪. When you are sharpening the sore😂😂😂👏👏👏

[@mrsh4574]

We love watchin this channel. Keeps a smile on I our face. Buckin, we have Johnsared power saws. Have not seen one on your channel, do you have an opinion? Blessings, friend.

[@Jimpotts]

Love it .

[@joutdoorsmen23]

Cool video can’t wait to see the next one with 850,s

[@HilderbrandOutdoors]

How many chainsaws do you have? Thanks for the sharpening tips.

[@matkremzar5474]

not enough

[@rileygreenwood976]

Buckin, where do you get your axe handles? Love the video keep on truckin!!

[@KevinsDisobedience]

Great advice to fix a bad chain.

[@jasonmercer9962]

Looking forward the the 850 showdown

[@matthewandvik6478]

Do you twist the file when you run it through or or is it best to go straight ? Thanks for the videos!

[@felurianmasters4369]

How do you avoid poison ivy, and how would you suggest dealing with it on your saw after having cut a ton of it. Thanks for all your videos, and sharing your knowledge. You make saws fun friend.

[@SUROBLEDEKchannel]

Great video sharing

[@naturundhund]

😎 sehr gut.

[@nate2838]

How many other people are interested in more sharpening videos of 3/8Lp? These are the chains I have the most trouble with. 3/8 and .325, i can almost always sharpen them to put brand new chains to shame, so much so that whenever i have time, i will redo a brand new chain right out of the box. 3/8Lp, i'm still a bit hit or miss with.

[@gerritvanwilligen]

Think this has to do more with the type of chain than rather the size. I have an old Stihl 180 and a 193T that use the P (Pico) chain and it's simply a different type than for example the RS chains that can be used on a 3/8 and .325. And for the record: I file a nasty RS chain that does a wicked job, but also in my case the P chains are somehow... less, or how ever you want to name it. The type of chain simply is less sharp, but is way more forgiving than an RS when you hit something or cut into some dirt.

[@nate2838]

@@gerritvanwilligen By type, are you referring to full-chisel vs semi-chisel? Full chisels come to a square corner where the meet the side plate, and semi's come to a rounded corner where they meet the side plate. I can file both full and semi's to perform noticeably better than out of the box when they are 3/8 or .325.

[@gerritvanwilligen]

@@nate2838 I'm not a native speaker and not too familiar with all the terms, but you are right: I meant the difference in square and rounded. But that's not the issue apparently 😀

[@brettblack7049]

That's surprises me, I've seen some very poorly sharpened picco chain that still cut well. I have a video on my channel from last summer or the one before where I fixed athe chain on an ms192, I talk about what I was going to do to it/what it needed, but don't show me filing (no room on phone at the time). It's basically the same principles as with a larger chain, you have to know what you want the cutters to look like when they are sharp in order to know how to file them. You are setting the rakers on them?

[@nate2838]

@@brettblack7049 Typically yes. The trouble i've often had with picco is it hooks to easily. i find the 5/32 file too small, and the 3/16 a little too large until its been filed a couple times, it wont fit between the tooth and the raker.

[@brettlewis2054]

Usually feel it on the bite on my finger

[@johnchipmanseishinaikido1531]

Good day Buckin! Have you used the 2 in 1 file yet from Stihl and what are your thoughts sir?

[@dentondunn4346]

Good stuff

[@marianatequiero28]

Using a smaller file when the tooth gets close to the end of its life makes it easier , learned that one from ya

[@BuckinBillyRaySmith]

yip works

[@mousekin]

Why no protection for the 👀?

[@jirusjirus9322]

Yeah, i love Buckin, he's a fierce warrior, i know that grit, dust and particulates are easily floated into the eyes. I carry eye wash wherever i go. Working overhead you can't avoid it. But Buckin and working on the ground there is the safety squint. 😑 It's not 100% effectual but it's what we do. I have more goggles and eyewear than the average bear...🤓

[@joshsweet5373]

HELP PLEASE....Hello buckin you helped me get into business for my self and now I've got my biggest job yet and I really need some advice on how to bid this job I've got nobody to ask I'm fairly new to this area

[@invisiblerevolution]

"It's just crazy loookin" 😆

[@JoePeters1]

Buck'n Billy, does this method of jumping up to a 3/16 for a 5/32 rated chain work on a semi-chisel? Thank you sir.

[@keithmarion8555]

Hey buckin why do you pull the pull cord out before you shut the saw off

[@keithmarion8555]

Can you please tell me the episode I can find it on

[@keithmarion8555]

I give up I can't find it

[@trwilkinson4623]

Some engines " kickback " when stopping. This can put stress on the starter pawls etc. Also the starter cord gets rubbed, jerked against recoil housing & fibres weakened, damaged. Having the handle pulled out, allows the shock, force to be absorbed, dissipated in a more controlled manner. A lot of vintage equipment, parts are getting harder to source. So try to minimise the risk of damage. An easy habit to adopt for all recoil start equipment, could save a lot of time, money in repairs

[@notmyname3883]

​@@trwilkinson4623..... I'm guessing it's like manually flipping the bail on your automatic spinning reels. It's just best to avoid any unnecessary where right

[@williamward7707]

Thank You

[@Neighborhoodgo2guy]

That bar length with Buckin don't seem right 🤔

[@matkremzar5474]

another outta the park

[@Voidnightx]

Anyone know of a chart you can refer to, to remember what chain goes with what file?

[@johncourtneidge]

Thank-you.

[@stevenparson0]

Good video

[@0069sidewinder]

I'm guessing you are using a smaller file I use a 5.5 mil pferd file from Germany on my Husqvarna x cut c 85 chain

[@rwboutdoors8867]

What is your favorite brand of file Billy?

[@StephenRogers1902]

I don't know if I missed it by why not use a 7/32 file?

[@schlomoshekelstein908]

BUCKIN, do you have any ticks or traps on how to tune a chainsaw?

[@julianalderson3938]

Got it sorted but really i think file is to small. Leaves gullet.

[@everlysuniquetimbersawshop]

The ol’3/16” clean up.

[@tyedwinnell950]

❤

[@davearthur514]

It's about a 12 inch file isn't it?

[@mrfirewood6215]

Buckin, what's your favorite file brand right now?

[@Jonathan-bf6nh]

Can someone post the link to the saw shootout?

[@coyotetracker1]

I don't get how you remove so much material with a single swipe of the file. Even on a brand new file straight out of the box I can never get that much material coming off.

[@frankbrowning6303]

Hey Buckin, will a 3/16 work on all size chains?

[@BuckinBillyRaySmith]

depends on whos filing

[@frankbrowning6303]

@@BuckinBillyRaySmith just wondered. I always used a smaller one. Later dude.

[@tjpipeliner]

Hey friend do you travel as far north as Qualicum Beach?

[@luxbeci2]

Very old chain Why you sharpe?? Why not drop rubish?

[@dentondunn4346]

I use a 7/32 on my 3/8 .50 chain but people tell me to use the 13/64 or something

[@julianalderson3938]

Yer ive gon under to much. But new saw givin me file is to small.

[@d.ahwooomazenkas8075]

Ahwoooo 👍

[@dwizzleusa4202]

👍

[@sev-1287]

Is it a 3/16TH’S file?

[@Desertduleler_88]

More bar and chain = better efficiency.

[@rogerboudreau8496]

Be kind:)

[@jamesfield6568]

Show a side by side before and after picture of one tooth.

[@ndothan]

I've never quite understood the whole *shorter bar cuts faster* thing. The teeth of the chain are traveling at the same speed, regardless of the length of the bar. The cut should be exactly the same, if everything else is even.

[@LordProsen]

More friction from the longer bar might steal some power and therefore speed of the chain?

[@jamesfield6568]

There's more chain to pull around the bar ,taking more power to do it. It's like carrying a heavier load in your truck.

[@eddyarundale1566]

👋